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On the Clock
On the Clock: What Low-Wage Work Did to Me and How It Drives America Insane | Emily Guendelsberger
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In the tradition of Barbara Ehrenreich's Nickle and Dimed, journalist Emily Guendelsberger describes her own experience working in the automated and time-starved world of hourly labor, showing what life is like for millions of other Americans today On the Clock is a bitingly funny firsthand account of what happens when a college educated young woman finds herself back at the bottom of the wage-earning ladder in a job which, like 40% of the jobs in America today, pays less than $15.50 an hour. After losing her job as a reporter, Emily Guendelsberger took a job in a call center. Living out of her car, she hoped to be able to get her financial footing before heading back into the reporting world. What she discovered in that first low-wage job, and at two others like it, is a world unto itself where hourly wage work is undergoing a critical transition that we haven't fully grappled with. Advances in monitoring and scheduling technology have sped up the pace of work for millions of workers, fundamentally altering their lives. Exposing the large scale stress of trying to meet robotic work standards, On the Clock shows how the way millions of Americans work today tells us something fundamental but little-understood about our country. To understand this world, Guendelsberger walks 15 miles a day in a vast Amazon warehouse with several conveniently located pain-medicine vending machines, is closely timed at each call center bathroom break, and gets pelted with mustard by a revenge-seeking customer at McDonald's. From her own often comic perspective Emily analyzes the physical and mental effects of chronic stress - from heart disease, obesity, and drug abuse to depression, belief in conspiracies, seeing immigrants as outsiders, and a preference for a strongman leader. On the Clock offers a better understanding of not just low-wage work and how we got to this moment in American history, but the surprising ways that things could get better.
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Smartypants
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If you liked Nickeled and Dimed, you‘ll love this modern take on how folks live paycheck to paycheck. The author is a journalist and spends time working at Amazon warehouse, McDonalds and an outsourced call center—she ties in the stress related to these types of jobs.

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Amiable
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A reporter by trade, the author took on a series of low-wage service jobs: an Amazon warehouse, an AT&T call center and McDonald‘s. Her account of her experience is interspersed with commentary on the sociological, physical and emotional implications of such jobs. Throughout, the author kept herself going by reminding herself that “I can leave.” So many of those who work in these jobs can‘t. Excellent read.

#Nonfiction2022
Prompt: I‘m an Escapee

Megabooks This is one of my all time favorite NF books. 2y
Amiable @Megabooks Everyone should read this one! 2y
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Oryx
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After discussing Nomadland with some friends, I left their house with this book. That's the best kind of friends 😃 It seems to be a really good accompaniment to read alongside Nomadland, the author works in an Amazon warehouse, McDonald's, and a call center. Just started, but finding it take eye opening already.

Megabooks This is a fascinating book!! 3y
alisiakae Working in a call center was one of the worst jobs I've ever had in my life. 3y
squirrelbrain Sounds fascinating - stacked! 3y
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Oryx @4thhouseontheleft I can imagine it would be hellish. My worst job was working in a factory production line, but it seems like it was so easy compared to some of these jobs. At least we were treated like humans, not machines. I imagine you got so much abuse working in call centers. 3y
alisiakae @Oryx factory work is tough! The peo to call center work is there is no physical labor involved. But the number of times I was propositioned over the phone was disgusting. 3y
Oryx @squirrelbrain hi Helen - I can't remember if you are booked for Gladstone's or not? Hoping yes! 😃 Anyway, my friend said to give this book away - they don't want it back. Shall I bring to Gladstone's for you? Or I'll post it at some point instead if you aren't going. 3y
squirrelbrain Yes, I‘m booked for Gladstone‘s and it would be fab to have this book - thank you! 😘 3y
Oryx @squirrelbrain Excellent, I'll bring. 3y
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Chelsea.Poole
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Wow 😳
Recommended reading for everyone who has never struggled, and validation for those who have!
Have you ever caught yourself thinking 💭 “McDonald‘s employees can never get my order right and they want to make more than minimum wage!?” Start here, for a lesson in empathy ⬆️
The author takes on 3 entry level positions within large corporations and reports on the physically, mentally, and emotionally exhausting work experienced.

tjwill Great review! That sounds like an important perspective. 3y
Cortg Sounds great! 3y
Ruthiella Personally I am always amazed at how the drive through person can fill and take orders AND make change simultaneously. I couldn‘t do it. 3y
Megabooks Glad you enjoyed this too! I‘ve read it three times! 3y
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Megabooks
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This is my favorite nonfiction book from 2019, and I was happy to read it again.

Emily took jobs at three major employers: Amazon, McDonald‘s, and Convergys (call center) to show how algorithms have made unskilled jobs even more stressful - from understaffing at McD to the bleakness of an Amazon warehouse to “screamers” on the phone. Every second of these workers days is monitored & scheduled in a way Orwell could only dream of. ⬇️

Megabooks ⬆️ this is one that I feel everyone should read, especially if you haven‘t had a job like this recently or ever. A great choice for #hiddengem #booked2021 @Cinfhen @BarbaraTheBibliophage @4thhouseontheleft the #audiobook is great too! (edited) 3y
vivastory I will definitely be adding this one to my Feb #botm box 3y
Megabooks @vivastory I think you‘ll like it. It‘s really eye-opening. 3y
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KathyWheeler Sounds interesting — I just checked out the ebook from my library. 3y
bridge12 Smashed that book stack button so hard! Thanks for the suggestion 3y
Megabooks @KathyWheeler I hope you find it as interesting as I have. 3y
Megabooks @bridge12 no problem! Just followed you back! 3y
vivastory I was reminded of the following. Not sure if you've read it 3y
Reviewsbylola Such a good book! 3y
bridge12 @vivastory I was thinking the same thing! 3y
Megabooks @vivastory I have it on my kindle and tried to read it after this one. I found the author of N&D attitude so much more negative than Emily‘s, it was hard to read back-to-back. Plus, OTC is much more updated to the changes technology has brought to low-wage work. But OTC definitely stands on the work started in N&D. @bridge12 (edited) 3y
Cinfhen Excellent review!! I stacked it on your FIRST RECOMMENDATION but wasn‘t able to borrow it back then ( I‘ll need to check again) or maybe I‘ll use #BoTM credit 3y
Megabooks @Cinfhen I hope you‘re able to find it at some point because I think you‘d find it really interesting. My library has the audiobook so perhaps somewhere you have picked it up since then?? 3y
Cinfhen I have Audible credits and #BOTM credits so I‘ll probably go that route... my library system is a little disappointing but I‘m not complaining 😉 3y
bridge12 @Megabooks interesting! By all means N&D I read in 2005 as a school wide read my freshman year in college. Not surprising it‘s a bit dated without the technology. I‘m excited to read this knowing it‘s less negative 3y
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Megabooks
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Thanks for the tag @Eggs 🤗🤗

1. I started reading at three and always enjoyed it! I started going to the library at four, which was so fun.

2. Tagged and Tiny Beautiful Things by Cheryl Strayed. For fiction, either The Nix or Station Eleven.

#two4tuesday

Chelsea.Poole 😭love love love tiny beautiful things!! ♥️ 4y
Megabooks @Chelsea.Poole I cry every time too!! 💕 4y
TheSpineView Thanks for playing! 🤩 4y
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AnneFindsJoy
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#nonfiction2020 #economics The author took on entry jobs at Amazon, Convergys, and McDonalds, and wrote about her experiences. It was shocking to learn how much 'micro-managing' down to every second of the workers day, and how dehumanizing the practices are. Felt relevant to read right now, as it's been so difficult for low-wage workers during covid, with companies not protecting their workers well enough!

Megabooks Agree!! Such a timely read during COVID! The techno-Taylorism, as she calls it, is the biggest difference between 80s-90s jobs and now and I think that really makes an understanding gap in even well meaning politicians. 4y
AnneFindsJoy @Megabooks yes for sure! The technology is used in a way that tips the scale of power way too far towards the employer. I really hope that the current crisis will somehow lead to meaningful change for entry-level work and earning a reasonable living wage! 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa This is the second great review I‘ve seen for this one, I really need to read it... it sounds so informative. 4y
AnneFindsJoy @Riveted_Reader_Melissa yes! You really get the inside scoop, it‘s anecdotal vs. scientific... the author used to work for the Onion, so she‘s opinionated and humorous too. So it‘s engaging and illuminating without being preachy or dry. 4y
Cinfhen I really need to read this book/ thanks for the reminder and excellent review 😊 4y
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Megabooks
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Thanks for the tag @Blueberry 😘😘
1. It got up in the mid-70s today, but fortunately it‘s cooling down to the 50s overnight and through the next few days!!
2. Irises and tulips
3. Tagged, Station Eleven (usually 😉), and Tiny Beautiful Things by Cheryl Strayed

@Eggs #wondrouswednesday 🤗😘😍 Thanks for your support, Sherri!!

Eggs Thanks for your friendship Meg 🌺❤️ @Megabooks 4y
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Megabooks
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Congratulations Misty!! 🎉🤩📚🥰😘🥳 #5n5giveaway

1. Tagged. An amazing book that will change the way you see the warehouse, grocery, and food workers that are keeping our society together. Read it!!
2. Summer by Ali Smith that comes out in August!

Cinfhen How come I haven‘t read the tagged book yet???? Should I do audio???? 4y
Cinfhen Congrats @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ 4y
Bookwormjillk Love On The Clock. Great book for these times. Congrats Misty! 4y
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Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Cinfhen thank you!!! 🥰🥰 4y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Bookwormjillk thank you!!! 💗💗 4y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Thanks Meg!! Adding it now!! 🙌🏻🎊🎉 4y
Megabooks @Cinfhen I don‘t know?!? It‘s great on audio!! I own and have read the physical book too. Most underhyped book of last year!! 4y
Megabooks @Bookwormjillk yes!! 👍🏻👍🏻 4y
Megabooks @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I hope you enjoy it! Congratulations again!! 🎉🎉 4y
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Bookwormjillk
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This book was fascinating, and I thought the conclusion was spot on.

Reviewsbylola Loved this one! 4y
Megabooks My favorite book of 2019!! 4y
Bookwormjillk @Megabooks I can see why. I‘m glad I bought this one because there will definitely be a re-read 4y
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Megabooks
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Thanks so much for doing this giveaway, Liz!! It is really fantastic having you on Litsy. Congratulations on 300k litfluence!!! 🥳🥳🎉🎉📚📚🤩🤩

Here are my three favorite genres, and since I‘m posting...I highly recommend the tagged book to anyone! 👍🏻👍🏻

#lizpixies3x3giveaway

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GerardtheBookworm
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Laid off from her newspaper job, Emily Guendelsberger joined the workforce and applied to several minimum wage jobs to understand the atmosphere of employees working paycheck to paycheck. From the sweatshop conditions of Amazon to the soul sucking hell that is a call center to the wastelands of McDonald's, Guendelberger exposes the harsh realities of trying to earn a livable wage while big corporations reap the benefits through exploitation.

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sherrynuts
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This was me everyday when I worked in a call center. I can‘t imagine going back. You don‘t get to be human and now they have even more ways to monitor time off task. 😭

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mabell
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Bookworm54 I think mall santa would be more my thing than manual labour! 4y
wanderinglynn Cutting trees. 4y
ImperfectCJ Christmas trees. The mall gives me hives (figuratively). 4y
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mabell @Bookworm54 That‘s fair! I would have to go with trees - I couldn‘t handle the reluctant kids‘ tears 🤣 4y
TheQuietQuill Hhhmmmm....I‘d cut trees 🌲 4y
j9brown Mall Santa, I'm too much of a weenie for outdoor manual labor 😂 4y
AmyK1 Cut trees 🌲 4y
SaturnDoo Trees 4y
Bookwormjillk Trees 4y
Inkblotsandcoffeestains Mall Santa, I‘m allergic to Christmas trees 😱 4y
Laughterhp Mall santa 4y
Palimpsest Cutting the trees for sure! 🎄 4y
Linsy How about a mall elf? This was me after high school. 4y
bibliobliss Cutting trees 🌲 4y
Addison_Reads Cutting Trees. 4y
ads0123 Cutting trees! 4y
Come-read-with-me @mabell cutting trees! 4y
LibrarianRyan tree farm. 4y
samantharoberts Mall Santa 😂 4y
Clwojick Tree farm. 4y
AsYouWish Tree farm 4y
SpiderCrafts Tree farm 4y
britt_reads Tree farm 4y
cwarnier cutting trees 4y
teebe Cutting trees 4y
AnneCecilie Cutting trees 4y
FantasyChick Mall Santa 4y
JenlovesJT47 Mall santa 4y
mabell @Clwojick @AsYouWish @AlobelThee @britt_reads @cwarnier @Kdgordon88 @teebe @AnneCecilie @FantasyChick @JenlovesJT47 Thank you all for answering my question! Sorry for the delay, but I‘ve tabulated the results. 2/3 of you would rather cut trees than be a mall Santa, and we have 1 mall elf - with prior experience. 😄 Merry Christmas, everyone! ❤️🎄 4y
bibliobliss @mabell It was fun; great question!! Merry Christmas 🎄🎉 4y
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TheBookDream
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The scariest thing I l‘ve read in a while! #HappyHalloween

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TheBookDream
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Honestly, just reading this book is causing stress because low-wage jobs like this are my life. Not quite this stressful right now (so far) but yeah.

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TheBookDream
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My final time for #24B4Monday. This is pretty good for me!

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Carolyn11215
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An updated Nickel and Dimed. Author works at an Amazon warehouse, a call center and a McDonalds to explore and write about the ways that low wage work is destroying the physical and mental health of much of our labor force. Thought provoking and ultimately an effective call to action.

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booklover76
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The idea that fast food workers aren't real.
Yes we are real! We have feelings and deserved to be treated with respect and kindness. You have no idea why a person is working where they are. I guarantee the jerks wouldn't tolerate being demeaned, get stuff thrown at them, be yelled at, or get spit on at their job.

ravenlee I wish that there were mandatory conscription - like some countries have mandatory military service? - but everyone was required to work for at least one full year in food service or retail. It might make people a little more understanding. 5y
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This!!! You can't be a caring person in fast food. What made me a good manager in that I cared for my employees, ate me up on the inside. I couldn't sleep thinking about what was going wrong at the store at that moment. I would get sick in the morning thinking about how short staffed I was for that day and how this would affect everyone. I couldn't read anything right before I quit because my brain wouldn't stop thinking about work.

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booklover76
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Emily just had food thrown at her. Reading this section on McDonald's has my heart pounding remembering the last 6 months at Wendy's. I was cussed at daily, had food thrown at me, and was spit at. God. I am so glad I walked away. That job was slowly turning me into an angry unrecognizable person.

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booklover76
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This book is already striking a chord with me and I am less than 10 pages in. I have worked service jobs pretty much my entire life and even though I am a manager I still see and have experienced what is going on. 8 years of working in fast food means I can handle almost anything

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Megabooks
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Woo hoo!!! Big congratulations to @GrilledCheeseSamurai !!! Much love to you for reaching 100k!! 🍾🥂😘🎉🎉

The tagged book has probably become my favorite nonfiction read of all time. Such an eye-opening important read!

I am tagging @bromeliad whom I have loved having on my #BFCr3 team and is an outstanding Litten! 💜

#SixDigitSamurai

Megabooks Without Litsy, I wouldn‘t have a love of audiobooks, and Littens have recommended so many awesome books I wouldn‘t have otherwise known about. There are also several Littens who have been here personally for me which I very much appreciate!! 💙💙💙 Thank you so much for this giveaway @GrilledCheeseSamurai !! (edited) 5y
bromeliad Aww shucks, you're so sweet! ♥️♥️ 5y
Megabooks @bromeliad 💜😘💜 5y
GrilledCheeseSamurai Thanks for playing along. 😁 5y
Megabooks @GrilledCheeseSamurai Thanks for doing this!! 👍🏻🎉 5y
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britt_reads
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I always try to go above and beyond to be the most polite customer that I can be. I empathize with those working these stressful service jobs after my own experiences in food service for almost a decade. I have always said that I think everyone should have to work a customer service job at some point in order to better understand and respect one another. Either way, this should be required reading.

Megabooks For sure! 5y
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Jilly6183
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I cannot recommend this book highly enough. If everyone isn't required to work a shitty service job at some point, they should at least be required to read this book.

Megabooks 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 This is one of the best of the year for me! 5y
Jilly6183 @Megabooks Absolutely! Thanks again for reminding me of it and getting it zoomed to the top of my TBR. I can't stop telling people to read it! 5y
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Megabooks
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I read 25 books in July!! 🥳🥳📚🎉🎉 The best four are above. Y‘all know me, I read a lot of #nonfiction, and all of my top four were nonfiction.

On the Clock should be in everyone‘s August #botm if you at all like sociology or the book Nickel and Dimed. If you like memoirs, Maybe You Should TtS is still available, too, from BOTM.

The Buried has beautiful maps & storytelling, & The Collected Schizophrenias shines light on a rare mental illness.

erzascarletbookgasm Wow! 👏 5y
JenReadsAlot The Buried was great! 5y
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Megabooks @JenReadsAlot It was fantastic! I love Hessler‘s work. 5y
tammysue 👏🏻🙌🏻 5y
Megabooks @tammysue 😊😊😊 5y
KT1432 I have all 3 of those BOTM nonfiction! I'm sad they're not going to be adding many new nonfiction add-ons anymore. No new choices this month. ☹️ I was always super interested in their nonfic picks! 5y
Megabooks @lele1432 They‘re so on-and-off with nonfiction. They had a lot in 15 and 16. Then less last year. I picked up two of the older ones this month. 5y
KT1432 Yeah, someone mentioned they did away with the beta nonfiction box so there won't be as many anymore. I hope it isn't true. They were on a roll for a few months this year! 5y
Reviewsbylola I just added Clock to my box based on your rec and got Maybe You Should Talk from Audible last night! 5y
Megabooks @Reviewsbylola Yay!! I also listened to MYSTtS, and the narration is great!! Enjoy both 😊😊 5y
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Megabooks
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1. This is the best book I‘ve read all summer, and everyone should add it to their August #botm!!
2. I don‘t even know. It‘s been at least 3 years!
3. 🍒🍑
4. Officially 2, unofficially 4
5. Will do! 💜💜

#friyayintro @howjessreads

Susanita ❤️❤️ 5y
Jess Do you have the August #botm titles? 5y
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Megabooks @Susanita 😊😊 5y
Jess Thanks! 5y
Reviewsbylola I will def choose this in August! 5y
Megabooks @Reviewsbylola it‘s an add-on. (I got it in July, which was the first add-on month.) I cant recommend it more highly. 5y
KT1432 I'm so glad I got this one this month! I'll move it up on my TBR! 5y
Megabooks @lele1432 For sure! It really is the best book I‘ve read all summer. 5y
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catiewithac
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On The Clock turned into a more substantive look at the history and future of exploitive labor practices than I expected. The author embeds herself in 3 notoriously unforgiving work environments and shares her experiences. More than that, she castigates the systems that rewards profit before people. For a book on labor and capitalism, it‘s a fun read. If you think automation isn‘t coming for your job, think again. #botm

Nute Nice review and so on point! 5y
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Megabooks
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Easily one of the best books of the year! Emily works at an Amazon warehouse, a Convergys (AT&T) call center, and a McDonalds to find out what life is like across the country in the age of poor pay, high turnover, & chronic, purposeful understaffing.

This should be required reading for every member of Congress and people who pass down the policies of timed bathroom breaks and unpaid leave points. A true must-read! Add it to your August #botm! 5⭐️

Carolyn11215 Did you read Nickel and Dimed? Another great book on similar topic. Stacking this one!! 5y
Megabooks @Carolyn11215 I haven‘t read it yet. Part of her inspiration was to update Nickel and Dimed. I‘m definitely going through her suggested reading in the back and that is the first book! 5y
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Megabooks @EchoLogical 👍🏻👍🏻 5y
kspenmoll Nicked and Dimed was great reading, so my guess is this will be too! 5y
Megabooks @kspenmoll I hope you enjoy it! 5y
rockpools You are FLYING through the books this month! (Can you read some for me? 😉) Seriously, this sounds great, if a tad stressful! 5y
Megabooks @RachelO Thanks!! 😊😊 it‘s a fantastic book! 👍🏻 5y
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I‘ve had an anxious day yesterday (by the clock), but I‘m going to read a few pages before bed. I saw this and had to share! FYI, white badges are temp employees.

And I just want to thank everyone for being so supportive yesterday. 💕🥰💕 It truly meant a lot!!! 😘😘

BookwormAHN 😺😺 5y
Crazeedi Hope all is well with you today!😘 5y
Megabooks @BookwormAHN 👍🏻👍🏻 5y
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Megabooks @Crazeedi much better, thank you! 😊👍🏻😘 5y
Scochrane26 One of my friends works for amazon. When they increased the wage to $15, they got great PR. What they didn‘t mention is they stopped giving everyone a stock in amazon every yr, which is worth more than $15/hr. 5y
Megabooks @Scochrane26 oh yikes! Yeah, as long as amazon stays afloat, that‘s worth A LOT more. My dad worked at Lowe‘s in the 70s and he got 10 shares of stock. His boss was really crooked, so he sold back 9 when he quit, but kept 1. 🤷🏻‍♀️ He just let the Lowe‘s market do whatever with the stock (he just reinvested everything back in more Lowe‘s, let it split, double, etc.) it‘s worth 70k today!! 😱😱😱 5y
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Call center exhaustion! I haven‘t made it past training yet because I keep having to do other stuff.

I cannot wait for next weekend when I can fully devote myself to reading!! #24in48 There‘s still time to sign up even if you can‘t do the full 24!

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Megabooks
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Finished part one: Amazon fulfillment center. On to part two: call center.

I don‘t know how I‘m going fit a review of this in 451 characters!! It comes out Tuesday or add it to your August #botm box!

PS I love my new bookmarks from FunUsual Suspects!

sudi The book sounds interesting 👍. And that bookmark is too cute 😍 5y
Amor4Libros I work in the CC world, getting this for sure! 5y
Daisey This book does sound interesting, but I love the bookmark! 5y
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Megabooks @sudi Thanks! 😊😊 And it is! I‘ve been working along on other projects this afternoon, too, but I‘m continuing to make progress! 5y
Megabooks @Amor4Libros Oh, you will probably find it so relatable. I‘m really interested to see your thoughts on it!! 5y
Megabooks @Daisey Thank you!! 😊👍🏻 5y
crazyspine Such a cute bookmark 5y
BiblioLitten Cutest bookmark!! 5y
Megabooks Thank you @crazyspine and @BiblioLitten !! 😊😊 5y
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Sorry I‘m not catching up with everyone‘s check ins, but I can‘t put this book down. Seriously, what kind of sociopath makes it so people have to take 12+ Advil per shift!!

Lucy_Anywhere 😮 wow. 5y
Megabooks @Lucy_Anywhere It‘s crazy. This book is fascinating! 5y
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Megabooks
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Just started this, and I am loving it so far. I am on such a sociology kick!! It was a #BOTM add-on, but I haven‘t seen anyone else posting about it. Did anyone pick it up?

The author worked undercover at an Amazon fulfillment center, a call center, and a McDonald‘s in different parts of the country after the newspaper she was working at folded.

One of my favorite booksleeves, too! 🥰

SassyBookworm Sounds very interesting! I read Nickel and Dimed back in college and this is along those same lines! I definitely wanna check this out! 5y
Megabooks @SassyBookworm She mentions reading Nickel and Dimed when she worked in service in college, and I think part of her inspiration is to update that book. Apparently, and I believe her so far, it‘s a very different ball game now. 5y
SassyBookworm @Megabooks how awesome! I would imagine things have changed quite a bit! It‘s was our required read as incoming Freshmen (in 2003 😬). I can‘t wait to check this out! Reading Nickel and Dimed was eye opening then this sounds great! 5y
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It‘s rare that I start three new books at once, but I‘m excited to have decided on these three. Forward, I‘ll start on my walk tomorrow morning. On the Clock is a #BOTM July add on. Dapper Dan is a library ebook. #nonfictionjunkie #sendhelporfiction 🤣🤣

Freespirit Some good reading there😄 5y
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