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The Elementals
The Elementals | Michael McDowell
Something terrifying waits in the decaying Victorian house on the coast, something that has haunted two men since they were children, something that may be ready to kill...again.
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BookishMadHatter
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@LeahBergen thanks so much for the fantastic #allhallowsreadswap package! I havent read The Elementals, but my tbr is now one story longer lol, and the treats will be perfect to hide from my kids and sneak while reading after they go to bed ... or maybe it's my husband I should hide them from 🤔

Also thank you to @MaleficentBookDragon for putting this swap together.

LeahBergen Yes, stash them away for yourself! 😆 I hope you like the retro horror that is The Elementals. 🤞 (edited) 1mo
BookishMadHatter @LeahBergen it sounds really good 1mo
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DebinHawaii
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#Scarathlon2022 #ScarathlonDailyPrompts

A big #Orange jack o‘lantern on display in the diner by work where I stop & get breakfast once a week or so with two spooky season audiobooks I‘ve read with orange-ish covers. Either would work for #TeamMonsterMash genres.
🎃🧟‍♀️👻🧛🏻‍♀️🐺🐈‍⬛🧛🏻🎃

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The_Literary_Jedi
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Quietly scary and thrilling. Slow and subtle like a June heat wave, the story sneaks up and it isn‘t the horrific element that gets you first, no. It‘s the badly damaged people who you question first. A great toe-curler for a sultry summer read 😈 📚📚📚📚

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LizzieLou
The Elementals | Michael McDowell
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Who knew sand could be so creepy? A very effective haunted house book. Slightly annoyed by the "magical Black women" trope except she really was a great character.

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DebinHawaii
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#Haunted

Some somewhat #blackandorange titles suitable for October/Halloween reading. The bottom row are books I‘ve read-including the team pick for #scarathlon #teamhendrix & the top row are somewhere in my #TBR 🖤🧡🖤

Eggs Great collage and great shades of O and B 🖤📙🧡🎃 14mo
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DavidDiamond
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I imagine if Tennessee Williams had written a play about a haunted house it would be something like this.
I had high expectations as I had read somewhere that this was one of the scariest haunted house stories ever written.
Two words: Um. No.
But it was entertaining.

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JoyBlue
The Elementals | Michael McDowell
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BekahB I really love this book! It was a great audiobook read. 1y
JoyBlue @BekahB That's how I read it, too. I was pleasantly surprised—I'm not a big horror fan. 1y
BekahB He co-wrote the story and screenplay for Beetlejuice and even though the stories and tone are different, it still makes sense to me. 😂 1y
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Larkken @BekahB I picked this book up too after I found out he also wrote the screenplay for Princess Bride, and it's def different than that one!! 🤣 (edited) 1y
JoyBlue @BekahB Same! 😂 1y
BekahB @Larkken HAA! Oh yeah - very different. 😂 1y
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Twainy
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🎧 OMG I LOVED THIS BOOK! 😆

From the cover you wouldn‘t know what this is about. Do you like scary books like maybe Mexican Gothic?

I liked the characters. I loved the premise! I loved Odessa, Big Barbara! Luker & daughter India were some fun dark humor!

This could be a fun southern gothic horror in Beetlejuice fashion!

TW - A LOT of swearing!

Extra star for RC Bray‘s narration!! EDIT - “Eat my eyes”.

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️1/2

BookDragonNotWorm I loved this one too! So creepy and atmospheric! 😱 1y
Twainy @BookDragonNotWorm exactly!! Agreed! 1y
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RamsFan1963
The Elementals | Michael McDowell
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I am posting one book per day from my extensive to-be-read collection. No description or reason for wanting to read the book. Some are old and some will be new. Don't judge me - I have a lot of books.
Day 296

#tbrmountain #bookbuyingdiet

BookDragonNotWorm I love this one! Gothic horror at it's best! 2y
Reagan This book is so good! 2y
RamsFan1963 @BookDragonNotWorm @Reagan Horror isn't my usual go to read, but the cover grabbed my attention. 2y
Reggie @Cinfhen did a group read of this with a lot of us a couple of years ago and it was one of my most enjoyable buddy reads ever. If you ever read this scroll down and our discussion is still there. 2y
Cinfhen Hahaha @Reggie it was fun 😁 2y
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Jari-chan
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Panpan

Huge disappointment. The characters are plain, so I didn't care what happened to them. Also, most of the time the story is only about how they spend their spare time. When something weird occurs, no atmosphere was added to the story. Also, apparently the only way to describe Odetta is as “the black woman“. That was pretty annoying. The rest of the book was just boring.

@TheAromaofBooks #BookSpinBingo #DoubleSpin

TheAromaofBooks Bummer!!! 2y
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Jari-chan
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@JaneyWaneyB Look what Grande found 😁 She tried to talk me into opening it already 🐱 But we still have to wait a couple of days 🤞

#LitsyLoveSpringSwap #LLSS #CatsOfLitsy

@rsteve388 @Bookgoil

Liz_M 😻 She's beautiful! 2y
Jari-chan @Liz_M Thank you 🐱 She sure likes to hear that 😁 2y
MySharonaK Gorgeous 😻 2y
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RinaBrahmbhattBarot What‘s the opening date - please remind me. 2y
Jari-chan @MyBookSwapClub March 20th 😊 2y
Jari-chan @MySharonaK Thank you ❤️ 2y
JaneyWaneyB So glad it arrived safely and everything inside is OK 🤞Grande is gorgeous 😍 such a beautiful, elegant cat 2y
Jari-chan @JaneyWaneyB Grande really enjoys all the compliments she gets 😄 Can't wait to open the package! 💙 2y
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Carla
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Reading journal/commonplacebook layout for my notes on Michael McDowell‘s horror novel The Elementals. Used the orange and peach pens for the colors of sand. New favorite novel! Listened to it narrated by actor R. C. Bray; fabulous experience.
Notebook is Tskui Moon Flower edition from Notebook Therapy.🌙

https://bookshop.org/a/6560/9781941147177

BookingitwithSandra Very cool that you draw in your book journal! 2y
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Gnora
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⭐ ⭐ ⭐1/2

Popsugar Prompt #37

I have several dear friends who like horror a lot more than I do and would really enjoy this novel. It is a very slow burn for the first two-thirds of the story, but when the action finally picks up it picks up fast.

#horror #creepy #librarybook #borrowed #popsugar

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Gnora
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📕 1. Tagged book, The Elementals by Michael McDowell in print & Midnight Sun by Stephanie Meyer on audio.

📗 2. The Feather Thief by Kirk Wallace Johnson

📘 2. I‘m most partial to peonies for flowers and herbs for looks/use.

#weekendreads #nature #nautral #parsley #sage #rosemary #thyme

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Gnora
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So excited to finally have this in my hot little hands! I‘m not typically a horror reader, but this has been recommended to me by several people I trust. Plus, it‘s set in my husband‘s hometown. Hope it lives up to my expectations!

#horror #librarybook #library #alabama #classic #litsyloveslibraries

Reagan I love it! A slow burn and very creepy! 2y
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Reagan
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Excellent news, I know that a new copy of The Elementals by Michael McDowell is under that tree for me. (Shhhh I wrapped it for myself too 😂)
If you like horror and haven‘t read this classic, get on it! Sand has never been scarier.

Bookzombie I love your penguins! 2y
Reagan @Bookzombie thank you! I bought them from a lovely lady at a craft sale last year. I just love them 😍 2y
CoverToCoverGirl Lovely photo! 2y
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Bertha_Mason
The Elementals | Michael McDowell

"The Alabama panhandle, which consists only of Mobile and Baldwin counties, is shaped rather like a heavily abscessed tooth. Mobile Bay represents the large element of decay that separates the halves, and at their northern extremities the counties are further divided by a complex system of meandering rivers and marsh."

Gnora That‘s such a dead-on quote it‘s not even funny. I have got to get my hands on this book. 2y
Bertha_Mason @Gnora I hope you enjoy it :) 2y
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BookDragonNotWorm
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If you‘re looking for a nice slice of Gothic horror, this book‘s for you. Creepy and atmospheric, this eerie little masterpiece is sure to give you the chills (or at least the heebie jeebies). Unlike some books published decades ago, this one stands the test of time. (Interesting side note: this author co-wrote the Beetlejuice screenplay!)

KristenDuck Right up my alley! 2y
Laughterhp Oo sounds good! 2y
BookDragonNotWorm @kristenduck @Laughterhp If you give it a try I hope you like it as much as I did! 2y
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BookwormOfTheDamned
The Elementals | Michael McDowell
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This weekend I review the paranormal classic "The Elementals" by Michael McDowell.

https://youtu.be/HVccP0tIuW4

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Crystalblu
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I really enjoyed this very atmospheric little horror story!
Read in the heat of summer with a tall glass of iced tea 🧊
Be safe, stay sane and wash your hands 💜

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wirewrappedlily
The Elementals | Michael McDowell
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A great take on a twisted ghost story. In the first few chapters, I wasn‘t sure if I would get through it, but it somehow managed to catch me and keep me. Definitely worth a read.

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ReadingOver50
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Life at Beldame is fascinating. Just three old houses next to the ocean, totally isolated during high tide. I loved the descriptions of the heat and the lassitude. It's hard to understand why the group returns every year when so many creepy things happen there.

The first half of the book, not much happens. Just getting into the daily lives of the characters. Half way the book switches into high gear and gets more exciting until the end.

Bookzombie Great review! I really liked this one. That cover is also great. 3y
bookandbedandtea I did NOT get why they kept going back year after year! 3y
Vblancsbooks Wow this sounds good!! 3y
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Becker This sounds good but I‘m a bit of a chicken. I can handle creepy, even really creepy but straight up horror is beyond me. Where does this book fall on the spectrum? 3y
ReadingOver50 @Becker mostly creepy and atmospheric. You should be ok 😄 3y
daisyheadmaesie Great review! 2y
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ReadingOver50
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My TBR for the month of November 2019. Looking forward to these.

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GypsyKat
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This was a fun horror! Not too scary, but creepy and atmospheric. Great characters and writing made this one a good October read.

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GypsyKat
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Starting another horror story! 🎃🖤💀

sprainedbrain I read this one last October. Loved it! 3y
GypsyKat @sprainedbrain Good to hear! 🎃 3y
BarbaraBB This is such a good one! 3y
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Curiouser_and_curiouser
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A distant memory triggered by Litsy member @Linda_Bloodworth_Author after posting this book as her recently read.
I remember reading this book 24 years ago (1995 written inside the front cover) and after a quick hunt, here it is! The bookmark is still in place after I bailed on this novel, uh, sooo close. Might pop it in my TBR stack.
Thanks @Linda_Bloodworth_Author for your review!!

Linda_Bloodworth_Author Oh, how exciting! I'm glad you're happy to revisit this book. 3y
Curiouser_and_curiouser @Linda_Bloodworth_Author It was funny to see your review because I'm not really sure how popular Michael McDowell is so I thought this novel might have been one of those ones no one else ever read. I have The Amulet too. Thanks again 😃 3y
Linda_Bloodworth_Author @Curiouser_and_curiouser I belong to this horror group on Facebook and someone recommended it, so I checked it out. I've now picked up a book by the gentleman who did the forward. I can't say I'd read another book from this author. 3y
Curiouser_and_curiouser @Linda_Bloodworth_Author I have a small collection of horror books which I keep behind my current TBR's. I used to collect and read these in my early 20's. I might come back to them, not sure, but I maybe I'll check out the horror group on Facebook now that you've mentioned it. See what the current scares are 😉 3y
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Linda_Bloodworth_Author
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It was a slow build up and then it was a little fast, then slow and then hella fast. So, depends what mood you're in and if you like that sort of thing.

Curiouser_and_curiouser Wow, I read this so many years ago!! Maybe 25years ago? I will have to give it another go. I prob only got half way or maybe 3/4's, but even though I did give up on it the story stayed with me over all these years. Thanks for your review!! 3y
Linda_Bloodworth_Author @Curiouser_and_curiouser you're most welcome. I wanted to give up and I admittedly skipped a few pages, but I had to see how it ended. 3y
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BarbaraBB
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Two families own two houses on a deserted beach in Alabama. There is a third house, almost completely covered by sand. Everyone is scared of that one because it has been haunted for years. Yet both families keep coming back to Beldame.
The horror didn‘t scare me at all, yet in combination with great characters it made for a highly enjoyable read.

Thanks for sending me your copy Cindy, as always so well chosen!💜😘

#ReadingUSA2019 #Alabama

Cinfhen Im glad it worked for your Map challenge!!! I was entertained too! How many states do u have left??? 4y
BarbaraBB @Cinfhen 29! It‘s a hell of a challenge 😉 4y
Cinfhen Oh wow!!! It is a hell of a challenge😂😂are there any states you are missing?? I might have a book or two.... let me know 4y
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BarbaraBB @Cinfhen I can‘t find any book set in Nevada or West-Virginia. I have some ideas but no books for Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Missouri, Montana, N&S Dakota, Tennessee, Vermont, Washington & Wyoming. Suggestions are very welcome! 4y
RamsFan1963 @BarbaraBB For West Virginia I'd recommend either Shiloh by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor (wonderful dog story) or The Night of the Hunter by Davis Grubb. 4y
BarbaraBB @RamsFan1963 Thanks!! Since I seem to be into classic horror 😀, the Grubb one sounds perfect! The blurb here on Litsy mentions Ohio but also a journey, maybe that journey leads into West-Virginia? (edited) 4y
RamsFan1963 @BarbaraBB It's been quite awhile since I read it, it was my mom's copy, but I remember at least a portion of the story took place in WV. 4y
BarbaraBB @RamsFan1963 Then it‘ll do! Thank you! #stacked 4y
RamsFan1963 @BarbaraBB If I'm wrong there's another good book by Grubbs you might like called The Watchman, which I am 99% sure was set in a small town in WV. 4y
Cinfhen I will look through and see what I have! Off the top of my head I‘m pretty sure GoldFinch would work for Nevada. But I don‘t own that one anymore 4y
BarbaraBB @Cinfhen I‘ve read that one - but not this year! Thanks for the suggestion!! 💕 4y
TrishB I enjoyed this one too 👍🏻 4y
Kaye Good job 👍🏼. I‘m missing some of the same states you are. There just aren‘t as many books set in some states as others. I‘ve read a lot set in Texas , NY, California, so cant count them. 4y
jenniferw88 @BarbaraBB @Kaye for Vermont you could use this book. It starts there but the MC travels across the USA, however Proulx does return to the family home in some chapters. 4y
BarbaraBB @Kaye NY and California are the easy ones indeed. Texas I haven‘t read yet but I do have books set there. It is nice though, looking for some of the less used states! 4y
BarbaraBB @jenniferw88 Thanks Jennifer! “Unfortunately” I‘ve read it already! 4y
Kaye Thanks @jenniferw88 I think I read that a long time back when I read something else by that author. I used to do that a lot. If I‘d find one author I liked, I‘d read more by them, all right in a row. 4y
Kaye Barbara , here are a couple ideas for WV that I‘ve read - Rocket Boys / The Coalwood Way were both excellent. Also, here are a few. https://wvtourism.com/wv-author-books-novels-read/ (edited) 4y
BarbaraBB @Kaye Thanks so much, That helps a lot. I‘ve been enjoying your posts about the various states so much! 💜 4y
Kaye Yes I hit a clog. I need to go back and complete them but the state I stopped on was drawing a blank. Some states have so many to choose from, while others have slim pickings. I‘ll start it up again today and see what I can find. 4y
BarbaraBB @Kaye I didn‘t mean to make you start it up again, I‘vr been happy with the states so far 😀 4y
Kaye No problem...I‘ve been meaning to finish them , so now is a good time. Been awake for hours. Gives me something to do. 4y
Librarybelle So glad you liked this one! 4y
Cinfhen So I think these two might work. For Washington I have 4y
Cinfhen And for Connecticut 4y
Cinfhen Also for Connecticut but I no longer own but HIGHLY recommend 4y
Cinfhen I also read but don‘t own this book set in the Rocky Mountains... I‘m not sure which state anymore but it might be Wyoming 4y
LeahBergen This was such a fun read!! 👍🏻 4y
BarbaraBB @Cinfhen Thank you!! I have read Revolutionary Road and Stepford Wives (both I loved, especially RR!) but the others seem just what I like! Great suggestions! ❤️ 4y
Cinfhen Well I‘m super happy to hand deliver Hotel to you when we meet up 🤗🤗 4y
BarbaraBB @Cinfhen That is great! I am already collecting some books for you too for when we meet! 💕 so exciting! 4y
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scowler1
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Not a big horror fan but this was a great story, beautiful writing that really captures the moment. Good stuff indeed.

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amb
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This book! It was on NPRs list of scary books, and while I wasn‘t scared I was on the edge of my seat. After a matriarch‘s death the family goes to Beldame, a private area with three identical houses, but something is in the third house and it‘s getting stronger. I loved the relationship between Luker and India (though allowing a 13 year old to drink was a bit much), she was so mature and intelligent and brave. A page turner that had me on edge.

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Librarybelle
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Some of the characters in this book are complete #FreakyFreaks ! #NoFemmeber

Cathythoughts Definitely 😱😱😱 4y
Cinfhen True!!!! Good choice 😂😂😂 4y
Billypar Everyone from the buddy read had me wanting to read this one- maybe for Halloween 2019 🎃 4y
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Susannah
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I'm still trying to figure out what I think of this Tennessee Williams/The Fall of the House of Usher mashup.

Somehow, I spent very little time on the Gulf Coast when I was growing up in Mississippi, but I know enough to say the atmosphere and description of heat is spot on. People I know from the coast say, "You go inside in May and don't come out until October." I honestly cannot imagine how people in the South functioned before AC. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Susannah Spoiler questions: Why did the third house kill Odessa? I get Dauphine--even though he was kind, he was still a Savage. Also, what was that baby/creature in the third house? Was that supposed to be a Savage? I admit that I didn't get why the house was punishing the Savages the most. How were they different, truly, from the Macrays? 4y
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Jocelyn73c
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Funny story, I recently signed up for Bookriot's TBR recommendation service where you fill out a survey, give them your Goodreads account, and they give you 3 book recs. There are different levels to the service which is nice. Anyway, Liberty Hardy was my recommender and she suggested this book for me. I actually already owned it but it was buried in one of my stacks, unread. So glad she prompted me to pick it up! It's spooky and amazing!

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mklong
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I am so late to the #Helloween party that I‘m sure you all have finished off the punch and blown out the candles by now, but I am so glad that I read this! It was such fun for Halloween. I also learned that the author is from the same small town in Alabama that most of my family (including Sandy! 🐕) is from. Small world right?

britt_brooke I‘m late, too, haha! My library hold just became available and I doubt I‘ll get to it before it expires. 😩 4y
LeahBergen Wasn‘t it a fun one? 4y
Cinfhen So glad u showed up, late stragglers are always welcome! We are reading Fight Club for our #90sSpringFling ( March 20-22) if u feel like joining us💕 4y
mklong @Cinfhen Sounds great! 4y
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EH2018
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Thank you so much Jessica Roberts! Opened my #HalloweenHorrorswap today and love it all!! The candle is amazing, the candy looks yummy, pet sematary is one of my fav Stephen King's. I will use the tags as bookmarks cuz they are so cool! LOVE the book selection, cant wait to dig in! And the scarf and headband are so amazing!! The color is perfect, they are so warm, and i am impressed - nice work! Thanks for hosting @TheReadingMermaid

JessNevertheless Yay! Glad you liked everything!! Enjoy your spooky reads and things:) 4y
BeansPage Awesome! 4y
Gissy Amazing goodies! 😱and books?👍I have Campfire I need to read it, the story of life🙄so behind in my reading! But I love to be surrounding by books!❤️ 4y
EH2018 I will! I hope you got an awesome package too!! Happy Halloween!! 📚🎃🕸🧙‍♀️💕 4y
Lovesbooks87 Campfire was really good! 4y
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Balibee146
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Late starting and finishing the #HELLoWeen read but enjoyed it. Atmospheric and written with charm and restraint, but with plenty of flourish too. Weirdly it felt like reading a short story to me. Thanks for the invite to the #80sparty @Cinfhen x x

Bklover You know, now that you say that about it feeling like a short story, I think I know what you mean- I agree. 😊 4y
Cinfhen That‘s true for me too @Bklover but any longer and I would have lost patience with the book!!! 4y
Cinfhen Great review!! Glad u were able to party with us!!! Looking forward to #90sSpringFling 4y
batsy Glad you liked it! 👻 4y
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GripLitGrl
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3/5⭐Starts out w/ 1 wild funeral then slows down a bit giving you past and present family history of 2 Mobile Alabama families. The slow creepy factor in this book built up for one hell of an ending. This is a good creepy Halloween quick read perfect for this time of year!🎃👻 Thank you @Cinfhen for putting together #HELLoWEEN #8osparty 🤗🤗
Full review: https://griplitgrl.wordpress.com/2018/10/22/the-elemental-by-michael-mcdowell/?p...

Cinfhen So glad you joined in!!! I agree this book had an awesome beginning and a crazzzy ending. Can‘t wait for the #90sSpringFling 4y
GripLitGrl @Cinfhen looking forward to #90sSpringFling too🤗🤗 4y
batsy Yup... Thank you @Cinfhen otherwise I probably would have never got around to reading it 😘😘 4y
GripLitGrl @batsy same I wouldn't have gotten around to reading this one myself 😊 4y
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ephemeralwaltz
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lauren.lerner Beautiful snap! 4y
ephemeralwaltz @lauren.lerner thanks! I love it when my food is pretty enough to be used as a prop 😂 4y
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mkittysabibliokitty
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This one was weird for me and a first from McDowell. It‘s been on my TBR for a looong time and I forgot I had an ebook copy. Here‘s my Goodreads review https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2148815209

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peaknit
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#HELLoween #80sParty Yes, it was an 80‘s party, 1989 to be exact. This guy and I just celebrated our 24th wedding anniversary to boot. (We don‘t look quite this cool anymore 😂) Big hair was my jam 🤘🏻 I have really enjoyed this throwback party! Thanks @Cinfhen for organizing. Can‘t wait til the 90‘s!

CouronneDhiver Awww, that‘s so cool. 👍🏽 4y
Cinfhen I was looking for my prom pics!!!! Sooooo awesome💕💕thanks for the memories!!! See you at the #90sSpringFling (edited) 4y
Reggie Did you guys have a song back then? This pic is amazing!!! 4y
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DebinHawaii
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Not the best horror I've read & more atmospheric than scary, but I enjoyed it. Listening to the audiobook was a big part of my enjoyment as the narrator (RC Bray) did a great job bringing all of the characters to life. I liked the Southern gothic feel, creepy houses in sand dunes setting, & the foreboding tone. It was a long lead up to the final, scariest parts, but worth an October listen. Mahalo to @Cinfhen for the #HELLoWEEN #80sParty fun! 😘👻

Cinfhen Love your collage and review!!! So glad you could make it to the #80sParty 😘#90sSpringFling is only 5/months away 😂😂😂 4y
JaclynW I liked the audio version too! It did take a while to get to the scary bits. 4y
mkittysabibliokitty OMGosh just read this myself! 4y
GripLitGrl Great collage & review😎 4y
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DebinHawaii
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1. Can't believe this pic is seeing the light of day-only for @Cinfhen 🙄
2. It's a Halloween costume circa 82-84 (high school or just out) & not my standard dress
3. It's sprayed pinkish & styled (more) weirdly but that permy mullet is my own 😱
4. Not sure what I was going for-maybe 80s club?🤔
5. Check out the gold fridge & yellow & orange linoleum
6. I think it's a White Russian in the glass or something with Kahlua.🍹

#80sParty #HELLoWeen 👻

zzz Awesome🤘🏼 4y
Cinfhen Hehehehehe 😂😂#WinnerWinnerChickenDinner 🏆#80sParty 😘😘😘thanks for sharing 🙌🏻 4y
Naj Thanks for sharing. Love everything about this! 🙌🙌 4y
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Balibee146 So much 80s awesomeness in one pic 👏👏👏 4y
LeahBergen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And what are you drinking? A White Russian?? 4y
JennyM Love it! 4y
thereadingowlvina Awesome pic!!! 👍 4y
Reggie So sassy!!! Love this pic!!! 4y
DebinHawaii @Cinfhen Only for you would I share! 😉😘 4y
DebinHawaii @LeahBergen That is my guess or something else with Kahlua. I may have gone through a phase! 🙄😉 4y
DebinHawaii @Reggie Hah! Thank you! 🤣 4y
Hollie Your permy mullet is fabulous 😂 4y
DebinHawaii @Hollie My permy mullet and I sincerely thank you! 🤣🤣🤣 4y
Bookzombie I love this! Great photo! Thanks for sharing with us! 4y
CarolynM Kahului and milk! I thought I was so cool ordering that in the early 80s😂 4y
Kappadeemom White Russians were definitely a thing in the 80s. My roommate in college threw ‘em up all over our staircase one night 😂😂😂 4y
batsy Fabulous 😆 4y
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This was my standard look in the 80‘s. Bangs (most likely cut by my older sister) and braids (on the side or in the back). I also remember how popular these plastic charm necklaces where when I was a kid. My sister (10 years older than me) had so many strands of Twist a Beads. #HELLoween #80sparty

Jerdencon I had those charm necklaces too!! 4y
Kappadeemom Twist a Beads!! 🤗 4y
Karkar I used to love those plastic charm necklaces! The were so much fun 😍😍😍 4y
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Amie I had a charm necklace like that, too. I recently found mine in a box of stuff from my childhood. 4y
Hooked_on_books Oh goodness, I remember those twist necklaces. I loved them! And how about pop beads?!? 4y
DebinHawaii Love this! Twist-a-Beads were the best! I wish I still had mine! 💜💜💜 4y
Eggs I remember twist beads !!😊 4y
Bookzombie @Jerdencon @Karkar They were so much fun! @amie That‘s so cool that you found yours! 4y
Bookzombie @Kappadeemom @Hooked_on_books @DebinHawaii @Eggs I need to check but I doubt my sister still has hers. I‘m sure I probably messed up a few as I was apt to sneak off with them. 4y
LeahBergen Cute!! 4y
JaclynW Cute! I had those charm necklaces too! 4y
LibrarianRyan I forgot about those charms!! 4y
CouronneDhiver Great photos!!! 4y
erzascarletbookgasm I don‘t remember the plastic charms. You look adorable 🙂 4y
Cinfhen I loved that charm necklace!!! Such good memories!! Adorable photos 🧡thanks so much for participating 😁see you at the #90sSpringFling 4y
Bookzombie @Cinfhen Yay! Looking forward to it! 4y
Reggie Lol, so cute and I love the pigtails!!! 4y
Bookzombie @Reggie Thank you! 4y
batsy Adorable!! ❤️ 4y
Bookzombie @batsy Thank you! 4y
readordierachel Awwww. So cute! 4y
DivineDiana So sweet! ❤️ 4y
Bookzombie @DivineDiana Thank you! 4y
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Progress is slow as I've had very little reading time.... I am enjoying the atmosphere.... Now I know he wrote the Beetlejuice screenplay I keeping seeing Lydia Deetz as India though 😂😂
Switching to a different audiobook for an afternoon of housework but will get back to it later 👍👍
@Cinfhen #80sparty #HELLoWeen

Reviewsbylola Ok, I did not know he wrote Beetlejuice. Wow! 4y
Cinfhen Check out the discussion questions after you finish the book!!! And thanks for joining the #80sParty 4y
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Final Question: Were you satisfied with the ending???
Thanks to all who participated ❣️❣️❣️❣️I loved partying and reading with you!!! I‘m already thinking ahead to a #90sSpringFling March 20-22. Look for details in the coming days 🤘🏼😜💃🏽 #Helloween #80sParty

Cinfhen I thought the ending felt rushed but I liked India‘s last line when she notes that the twins are Savages and not McCray‘s. The whole part with eating Odessa‘s eyeballs was too ridiculous for me 4y
Librarybelle The ending scene at Beldarme was grotesque, and while I felt the spookiest with this scene, it also felt rushed. Like the climax in a b-rated horror movie. The loose ends tie up seemed rather quick too. Maybe there was a potential for a sequel with the twins?? I almost did say aloud, “You really went with those names?” 4y
Cinfhen It was almost silly by this point (at least for me @Librarybelle ) (edited) 4y
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AmyG That photo! 😬 I agree, the ending felt not only rushed but not developed enough. I also will say that I liked the characters more than the horror aspect. And my favorite part was India eating Odessa‘s eyes. 🤣 4y
TrishB I thought India eating the eyeballs was to make sure Odessa didn‘t become one of the elementals because she couldn‘t see 🤷‍♀️ ending was good for me and along the lines of what I anticipated really. 4y
Cinfhen I think the eating of the eyeballs was to gain Odessa‘s “insight” IDK @TrishB that was a little over the top for me but I thought it went along well with the rest of this book @AmyG like it made perfect sense that the 13 yr old sophisticated NYer would have no qualms eating a set of eyeballs whilst chasing an elemental with cleavers 👻👻👻 4y
batsy I wish there was more of "the elementals" tied to the Savage family, but I guess that would go against the general point of the elementals, & the idea of something evil that has no understandable source seems all the more terrifying. I thought the eyes-eating was interesting because throughout the book there was good buildup with India & Odessa, starting with the photographs—Odessa was already helping India to see in a certain way. 4y
Cinfhen Nice @batsy I forgot that Odessa had guided India in the photo taking 4y
Reggie I was heartbroken in the end because of what happens to Dauphin. There‘s a lovely paragraph about him not being able to be the last to go to sleep and Odessa being the one to hold his hand until he slept and now it was Leigh he wrapped himself around. And also to think that you might have escaped the one person in the family who hates you because they‘re dead but then they sand manifest to slit your throat really got to me. Fuck that sand demon. (edited) 4y
Reggie Lol 4y
Cinfhen Oh @Reggie you‘re so poetic 😘😘😘 “Fuck that sand demon” (edited) 4y
BookwormAHN @Reggie I was also really upset that Dauphin died. I was also rather disturbed by the names Leigh had picked out for her twins. Using those names seemed like a bad omen. 4y
Kalalalatja I‘m so with you @Reggie Dauphine dying wasn‘t okay! 4y
Bookzombie @Reggie I felt the same about Dauphine. In fact I was angry with Luker and India for letting him go up to the third floor alone. Never split up! 4y
Bookzombie The ending might have been a bit rush but I was pretty pleased with it (except for Dauphine‘s death). Like @Librarybelle I couldn‘t believe the names Leigh picked for the twins. 🤦🏼‍♀️ 4y
Sweettartlaura Perfect? No. But satisfied? Yes. For the genre/the era/the type of monster they were fighting, this was all pretty standard. Yet the writing, characters, & setting elevated it. Plus I listened to the audiobook, & the ending played well - couldn‘t stop listening after a certain point. 4y
Reggie @Bookzombie Lol. I think that‘s why I get upset with new horror movies. We should all know better by now. 4y
DebinHawaii Great pic! ???I liked the ending, (of course, except for Dauphine! ?) with all of the drama and some gore, finally. ?I agree @Cinfhen that India's last line was the best and I liked the "uh-oh, here we go again" feeling it gave. Yes to @Sweettartlaura the ending did play really well in the audiobook. ? 4y
DebinHawaii And a big THANK YOU for the all of the 80s fun @Cinfhen Looking forward to the #90sSpringFling !🎉 4y
bookandbedandtea @BookwormAHN @Reggie @Librarybelle I too was upset over Dauphin's death. He was such a sweet, caring man despite having lived his whole life knowing his mother hated him and I enjoyed seeing him surrounded by people who appreciated him. And Leigh! Those baby names! What was she thinking? Loved India's last line. 4y
bookandbedandtea @Cinfhen Thanks for leading us. This was fun! 4y
Cinfhen I‘m soooo happy you guys were back to party with me @bookandbedandtea @DebinHawaii can‘t wait for #90sSpringFling 🌷🌻🌹🦋🌼🌸🌺 4y
LeahBergen And I‘m assuming those little twins got matching little twin daggers to carry throughout their lives?? 😆 I was generally okay with the ending as I find I never enjoy the endings of horror novels (or thrillers for that matter) much anyway. This one was the same; I loved the beginning and learning about the history and customs of that bat-shit crazy family far more than the eventual resolution of the plot. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 4y
Reviewsbylola Thank you Cindy!! 4y
Pamwurtzler I was good with the ending. I‘m not a fan of really creepy stuff so this was just enough for me. I loved the crazy family! Thanks for hosting us @Cinfhen ! 4y
Bklover I was okay with the ending except for Dauphin dying. I‘m finding @Reggie ‘s reaction to this book fascinating. Thanks Cindy for hosting! Can‘t wait for #90sspringfling! Oh, and how the hello you pronounce Dauphin!!!!!???? (edited) 4y
TrishB These discussions have been awesome 😘 4y
CarolynM I was quite upset about Dauphin (I had assumed that Odessa wasn't going to survive) but overall I found the ending satisfactory. Thanks for a great party @Cinfhen. It's been a fun weekend with everyone who has contributed. Look forward to next time😘 4y
Reggie @Bklover lol, thanks, books speak to all of us on many levels. In my head I was say Doffin. Like it rhymes with coffin. But maybe it is said Doughfin. Who knows, in Harry Potter that kid named Seamus was said C-mus in my head until I heard them say Shame-us. Lol And yes, thank you @Cinfhen for this event, it was so fun!!!! 4y
Mdargusch Yes! But I need a sequel! Thanks for motivating me to read this! It‘s been so much fun! 4y
Bklover @Reggie I said See-mus in my head too. 😳 4y
Cinfhen Loved the discussions and seeing everyone‘s posts!!! You guys made this so much fun!! Thank you @LeahBergen @Reviewsbylola @Pamwurtzler @Bklover @TrishB @CarolynM @Reggie @Mdargusch mark your calendars for #90sSpringFling March 20-22 🎉🎉🎉 should we stick with the horror theme???? 4y
Mdargusch I‘m up for anything! 4y
Pamwurtzler Me too!! 4y
Cinfhen Im having a hard time putting together book choices @Pamwurtzler @Mdargusch but I‘m almost there!!! 4y
Bklover Can‘t wait for the next choice! Any genre is fine with me. 4y
GripLitGrl I was the ending was great! Excited to participate in the next one hopefully I'll finish on time😉 4y
Balibee146 Bated thanks @Cinfhen 4y
ephemeralwaltz I am THE LATEST to this. Just finished reading😂😂 it wasn't my favorite, that's why I kept sidetrscking it for other reads... I don't know if it was the characters (I couldn't stand any of them) or the story itself (which didn't make any sense in the end, I like getting explanations and backstories to spirits/demons/monsters). The ending felt rushed anf Iagree about Dauphin❤️ but I'm just glad it's over tbh 4y
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Question 4: This is for those who participated in #StepfordSummerParty 💕 Did you prefer one book more than the other? Do you consider Stepford Wives horror after reading this novel? #Helloween #80sParty

Cinfhen I personally enjoyed Stepford Wives more. I thought the story was creepy without any over the top antics. All subtleties were left to your own imagination. It was also the implied messages that I found more menacing and thought provoking. I would call both these novels #HorrorLite 4y
Librarybelle I agree with you, @Cinfhen . I much preferred Stepford Wives over The Elementals. I like the name #HorrorLite ...both had potential elements (no pun intended), so I can see where there is a spook factor in both, but I was by far more creeped out by Stepford Wives. 4y
Cinfhen I also felt Ira Levin wrote a better story @Librarybelle 4y
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AmyG Oh, I love Ira Levin, so I have to go with Stepford Wives. I love books where odd or supernatural things happen to every day people. For me it‘s about whether the story is believable or not. Stepford was more believable to me. 4y
Cinfhen I‘m tempted to read @AmyG 4y
AmyG READ IT. And see the movie. 💕 4y
batsy For me, both were really good and unexpected reads 👍🏽 Levin was less campy than I expected, and McDowell was more so. I thought The Stepford Wives was chilling in real world terms but The Elementals was imaginative and creepy. Horror as a genre operates in the realm of fantasy, as well, and in that vein The Elementals intrigued me :) 4y
TrishB @batsy agreed 👍🏻there is a very grey area of horror/fantasy! 4y
Bookzombie I really enjoyed them both equally for different reasons. I think Stepford Wives falls into the horror genre quite easily. As @batsy said it‘s very chilling in real world terms. The Elementals is probably what most people think when they think horror, but the horror genre is quite broad in my opinion. 🙂 4y
DebinHawaii Stepford Wives is a sentimental favorite due to my love for Levin, plus I think it was a subtler but more chilling creepy rather than the gothic camp of The Elementals & thus more scary. I did enjoy them both though and like that in both, much was left to the imagination. And I would like to see The Elementals as a movie too--I think it has some great possibilities in the right hands. (And yes, @Cinfhen read & watch Rosemary's Baby!) 😉😱 4y
Cinfhen Will definitely be adding Rosemary‘s Baby to my infinite TBR @DebinHawaii @AmyG and Happy Birthday 🎊🎂🎁🎈 @AmyG 4y
bookandbedandtea I liked both books and would consider both to be #HorrorLite They both creeped me out in different ways. Stepford Wives was a little scarier to me because the evil was human. And so personal! I would still like a book from Walter's perspective because I just can't understand his actions. 4y
peaknit I think I liked Stepford better because it seemed, while bizarre, more plausible. I found the southern language a little...patronizing? Overdone? I‘m not sure I could read “gone” for “going” one more time. I love a southern accent on audio but reading it in print is tedious for me for some reason. 4y
Bklover I think Stepford Wives was creepier. Plus I kept having trouble believing that a 13 girl would voluntarily go into a house that her dad was afraid of. Between that and the weird occasional nudity I just kept getting pulled out of the story too often. 4y
Reviewsbylola I actually liked Elementals better. The characters were more fleshed out for me and I was really drawn to them. 4y
Pamwurtzler I think Stepford was overall a better creepy read. I liked the family in The Elementals better than the people in Stepford though. 4y
CarolynM Stepford Wives had a lot more substance and better writing. It left me much more unsettled than this one without any explicit violence at all. I'll still be thinking about Stepford long after I've forgotten Beldame. 4y
Mdargusch I would definitely consider Stepford Wives as a type of horror book. I definitely loved the better developed characters in the Elementals like @Reviewsbylola 4y
GripLitGrl Horror lite sums them both up perfectly! The stepford wifes was more unsettling horror leaving you to imagine how scary it escalated to. The Elemental was more the horror I am used to in reading the build up was a bit slow but the ending was the build up the length was perfect 100 more pages I would've grew bored 4y
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Question 3: Please explain the scene with India‘s mom?!? Is there a deeper meaning than just odd behavior?? Big Barbara refers to her as “the Devil” and why did the mom poke holes in all the food???? #HELLoWeen #80sParty

Cinfhen I just didn‘t get the inclusion of this incident. I really thought it would become clear later on in the book the role of India‘s mom and her reason for poking holes in all of their food. I‘m still scratching my head over it 🤷🏼‍♀️ 4y
Librarybelle I thought that was bizarre as well. Revenge? Animosity? It just seemed weird. I wondered why this was added... 4y
Robothugs I‘m assuming because she was dating a psychiatrist maybe she had a mental illness? I‘m not really sure. I kind of wished their was a bit of elaboration, too. 4y
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quietjenn I really wanted more backstory on her! Like why did the family hate her so much? I think this scene was just a "ha, see? She's crazy!" thing, which I find very wanting. 4y
Cinfhen Ugh!!!! It‘s still pissing me off!!!! @quietjenn @Robothugs @Librarybelle I don‘t like storylines that lead to nowhere. Is this a common trope in horror? @TrishB 4y
Robothugs Not necessarily. Depends on the author. @Cinfhen (edited) 4y
AmyG @Cinfhen Yes! A storyline that went nowhere. So what‘s the point? I just assumed the mom had some sort of mental illness. (edited) 4y
TrishB Not common no! I just thought she was doing ‘ex‘ revenge things. I also thought the family were doing ‘blame ex‘ things too. But other than giving some background to why she was just with her dad, there was an annoying non story line! 4y
Cinfhen I guess I was hoping for loose ends or storylines to all come together in the end @AmyG @TrishB @Robothugs 4y
Reggie I thought the exwife was an explanation of the Luker we now got. As far as poking holes in the food, I was just thinking it‘s one of those horrible things exes do to let you know they‘re capable of still coming into your life just to mess things up. 4y
Cinfhen Hahaha @Reggie That‘s my favorite explanation ❣️❣️❣️🙌🏻 #wordsOfWisdom 4y
Reggie @Cinfhen one time this woman knocked at my door explaining that she was looking for the guy who rode the motorcycle that lived downstairs. She said she was his wife, it was his birthday, and she had made him enchiladas.(warning bells going off) could I please give them to him. Sure. Later that night I caught up with him and told him about the enchiladas. Straight faced he said, “I don‘t know who you‘re talking about, I‘ve never been married.” (edited) 4y
Reggie And as good as those enchiladas looked I threw them away. He didn‘t want them and yes it was his birthday, you just never know. 4y
Bookzombie I agree with @TrishB about the ‘ex‘ revenge things and the family doing the ‘blame ex‘ things. I have seen families love the first wife/husband and then just tear her/him down after divorce. I also wonder if this wasn‘t to show us more about India. Her mother abandoned her, then returns only to play a nasty joke. How does that affect her growing up? 4y
Bookzombie @Reggie Wow! That is so strange! 4y
Cinfhen I‘m dying here!!! I eat up your stories @reggie 😂😂❤️glad u threw out those enchiladas 4y
Cinfhen I was sure all that poking holes in the food had to do with protecting India from the sand Elementals @TrishB @Reggie @Bookzombie @AmyG or maybe she was inviting them in???? 😜 4y
BookwormAHN I think she was just nuts 🤷🏼‍♀️ 4y
Kalalalatja It made no sense! If you are going to tickle my interest with an ex doing weird stuff, you better give me an explanation! 4y
Sweettartlaura The ex-wife had been there - India was conceived there, yes? Maybe she was driven mad by something she saw or experienced. Maybe she thought India was tainted because of it. Maybe she was angry because Luker exposed her to this. Not wholly satisfactory, agreed, but again, it added to the bond b/t India & Luker, and what made them different from other families. 4y
DebinHawaii It did seem like a loose end--a bit annoying & I did think it would lead to something more--like she took something when she was there, or she would somehow pop up at the end with everyone else. Since nothing more transpired, i lean to the ex doing petty, strange things theory too. But man, going after & ruining food--that might have been one of the most terrifying parts of the book 😱 for a foodie! 🤣🤣🤣 4y
Cinfhen Hahahaha @DebinHawaii and that‘s why @Sweettartlaura with the ex being at Beldame and having hated it there, I thought for sure she was exposed or knew something and it would tie back in later on in the story....I‘m just used to literary fiction when the author does manage to weave in story lines... 4y
bookandbedandtea That episode was SUCH a weird thing to throw into the mix and is part of why I wanted to skip the Beldane/horror story and instead get the stories behind who all these people were! I found them all really interesting characters and would have liked more. 4y
peaknit I felt like it was one of many weird tangents that really brought nothing to the story. I was left puzzled about a lot of pieces. Still enjoyed reading with the group all the same😊 4y
LeahBergen @Reggie That‘s bloody creepy! 4y
Bklover Yeah it was strange. I thought maybe she was trying to be obnoxious and ruin the food. Although that probably wouldn‘t have ruined it for me. Didn‘t seem necessarily to the story at all 4y
Reviewsbylola Idk if there‘s an explanation but it did confirm for me that Luker wasn‘t as out of hand as I was afraid as far as his treatment of his ex. I cringed at some of the things they said about her in front of India. 4y
CarolynM Totally agree, no idea what the real story was with India's mother. Like you @DebinHawaii I was expecting it to be picked up later in the story. Love your suggestion @Sweettartlaura 4y
Mdargusch I kept waiting for the ex to come back into the story. She was a very unsettling part of the story. 4y
Cinfhen I still like @Reggie explanation best “ I thought the exwife was an explanation of the Luker we now got. As far as poking holes in the food, I was just thinking it‘s one of those horrible things exes do to let you know they‘re capable of still coming into your life just to mess things up.” @Mdargusch @CarolynM @Reviewsbylola @Bklover @peaknit @bookandbedandtea #WordsOfWisdom 🙌🏻❤️ 4y
JaclynW 😆 I liked @reggie explanation too. (And that enchilada story! 😯 Creepy!) Although @Sweettartlaura has me thinking now about her theory... I also wanted to learn more about each of the characters @bookandbedandtea . They were an interesting bunch. 4y
Cinfhen They were definitely an interesting bunch @JaclynW and I just now realized that we know very little about the sister who became a nun 4y
JaclynW @Cinfhen VERY LITTLE! I want a sequel!! 4y
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Question 2. can we PLEASE discuss India & Luker??? (Aka Ivanka & Donald) 🤪 #HELLoWeen #80sParty

Cinfhen Their behavior was soooooooo bizarre. I just couldn‘t take it after awhile...🙄🙄🙄 4y
Librarybelle Yes! The behavior! I had to keep reminding myself she was 13. At times, I had to remind myself she‘s the daughter...talking to her naked father...about speed and drinking whiskey... 4y
Robothugs Hahahaha this comparison!! 😂😂😂 Yeah. I was a little perplexed by their unexplained closeness (just really the nudity). It was odd 🤷🏻‍♀️ 4y
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quietjenn Yes! Like I think I get the point of it - permissive, swinging, hipster New York City thing, contrasted work the Southern thing, but it gave such weird, off-kilter vibes. 4y
Cinfhen While I found Big Barbara, Dauphine & Leigh entertaining I found Luker & India annoying. I get they are meant to be cosmopolitan and New Yorkers but REALLY????? it was so off putting for me @quietjenn @Librarybelle @Robothugs 4y
Robothugs @Cinfhen @quietjenn It could‘ve been more subtle. It‘s kind of like YA that have hate to love relationships. I get it‘s going to happen, I don‘t need to see it on every page. Same with this. I get the difference between their worlds. 4y
AmyG @Robothugs Agreed. The nudity was the part that really bothered me. Otherwise I would just say that Luker treated her like a friend...but the nudity made it uber weird. 4y
TrishB They were just weird, not funny or normal!! Anyone at 13 think of sitting there with their naked dad!!?? I don‘t think so. Trying to hard to make the cool NY vibe thing obvious. The drinking was not real either....and I‘m not excessively strict, but 13!! 4y
Robothugs @AmyG Yes, that‘s exactly how I felt about it. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 4y
batsy Oh yeah, this part gave me pause as well! Luker naked in front of his daughter was like 😳😳😳🤪 4y
Reggie I think what it was, was that maybe Luker was a different person before “that” woman left him and India and afterwards he just became that no nonsense guy. And instead of treating India as a child he treated her like a contemporary. I was thinking I would have benefited from such an upbringing rather than being overprotected. So yes, they were weird to me but just because they were different than what I know. 4y
Kalalalatja I couldn‘t deal with the naked dad convo. India didn‘t read like a 13 year old to me, which bothered me too. 4y
Bookzombie @Reggie That‘s how I ended up interpreting their relationship. It was like he treated her as a friend rather than a daughter. I imagine he never treated her like a child and that is why India didn‘t seem like a 13 year old in her speech and actions. 4y
Cinfhen Big Barbara certainly didn‘t speak to Luker like a “normal” mom & I guess Luker sort of just picked up his cues from Big Barb @Reggie @Bookzombie but the whole situation was too whacky for me. 4y
Reggie @Bookzombie we are book siblings. Lol 4y
BookwormAHN Their whole relationship was definitely more friends than father and daughter but the naked thing was disturbing. 4y
Sweettartlaura I‘m pretty sure that if it was just my dad & me, we would have been very similar to these two. Plus, he had an untraditional job, he saw a lot of the world, it was the late 70s when this was written... didn‘t get in my way 🤷🏻‍♀️ I‘m with you, @Reggie & @Bookzombie 4y
bookandbedandtea I liked Luker & India & wanted to know more of their background & their lives in New York but yes the nudity, the drugs, the drinking, all seemed a bit weird to me. I didn't feel any sexual vibe there (I would have had to stop reading in that case) & even thought I saw signs that Luker is gay so I sort of accepted that they lived life as friends rather than parent/child. India didn't read at all like 13 & I wondered why the author chose that age. 4y
Bookzombie @bookandbedandtea Luker being gay crossed my mind too. I think it was when India started to tell Big Barbara something about his lifestyle and stopped herself. 4y
Sweettartlaura @bookandbedandtea I suspect because it‘s a transition age. SK makes many of his characters 11-13 years old - they‘re mature enough to face some stuff, but young enough to still be innocent, to still need adults, to believe in things that go bump in the night. 4y
DebinHawaii I raised my brows at the naked conversations & the skinny dipping mentions ?as well as the drinking ("you like a good Scotch" to India) but it didn't bother me all that much. India was written as a much older 13-year-old who between Luker & his friends, has obviously seen a lot (no pun intended). I agree with those who felt more like he treated her as a friend or contemporary rather than in a sexual way. Interesting parenting skills all around. 4y
sprainedbrain Luker and India were my favorites... I didn‘t get a creepy vibe about them at all. The nudity was weird, but I enjoyed the way they interacted with each other and the rest of the family. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 4y
Cinfhen I didn‘t think anything sexual was going on between Luker & India and they had a very hippie urban chic relationship but it just felt too comical at times @sprainedbrain @bookandbedandtea @Sweettartlaura @BookwormAHN @DebinHawaii 4y
Cinfhen You raise a good point about 13 being on the brink of maturity but still a sense of innocence @Sweettartlaura 4y
bookandbedandtea @Bookzombie Yes, it seemed like India was protecting him on occasion from Big Barbara's potential reaction. Or maybe she was protecting Big Barbara. 🤔 4y
bookandbedandtea @Sweettartlaura That's a very good point about 13 being a transitional age. 4y
Sweettartlaura On the nakedness... as someone who lived on the Gulf Coast, it is so oppressively hot and humid, I‘m surprised anyone has clothes on after Easter 😜. Guys, it‘s really, really, REALLY hot 🔥 🔥🔥 4y
Sweettartlaura 🤷🏻‍♀️😜. I grew up in NY, and my dad & brothers ran around the house in their tighty-whities all summer. Then I moved down South, and it was so much worse🔥 Even with AC, I was pretty much in my undies at home. So it‘s really not a stretch for me to see how Luker wound up naked in front of his daughter. If he had treated her a little more traditionally, then it might have been creepy. But he was just hot. I‘ve been there - I get it. (edited) 4y
peaknit India was surprisingly adult acting for a 13 year old, I have one of my own for comparison😂 Luker really adultified her, I cant see that being a good thing for her...ever. The nakedness was just weird to me, I‘m midwestern though, it‘s dang cold here already! 4y
LeahBergen This photo is more terrifying than anything that happened in the book. 🤣🤣 And yes, Luker and India‘s relationship was bizarre. 🤢 4y
Cinfhen I couldn‘t help myself @LeahBergen 😂😂🙌🏻 4y
Bklover Again- late to the party but Luker and India‘s relationship kept pulling me out of the story. It never occurred to me that they were trying to portray them as NY chic. Didn‘t get a sexual vibe though. To me they were just weird. 4y
Reviewsbylola They were creepy af together but there was something endearing about them. I especially loved India. She was wise beyond her years. But something about Luker was endearing too and I‘m not sure why. Because really, on paper he just seems like a super creepy douche. 😆 4y
CarolynM I thought they were unusual but interesting. Maybe a play on the Paper Moon theme? I thought the hints about Luker were intriguing. Maybe gay, maybe trans, something else altogether. The drug references were probably not that unusual for people living Luker's kind of life at the time. 4y
Mdargusch Good connection to Paper Moon @CarolynM I just thought Luker was immature and wanted his daughter to be his best friend and his equal. 4y
Cinfhen I agree @CarolynM Luker was very immature and India was wayyyyy too mature and I love that Paper Moon reference. Forgot all about that movie 4y
GripLitGrl 🤣😂🤣😂 this picture defiantly keeps on poi t with the horror theme. The relationship was a bit odd at times agree with the above comments. 4y
JaclynW @LeahBergen Haha! I had the same reaction to the photo @Cinfhen posted! I almost spewed my tea all over from being caught off guard and laughing!! A terrifying photo indeed! 🤣🤢🤣🤢 Creepiness x infinity. 😉 4y
JaclynW @Bookzombie @reggie @Sweettartlaura I'm in agreement with you. Luker treated India more as a friend/equal than a daughter. The being naked together was super foriegn for me to think about, I can't imagine a teenage daughter wanting to do that. I think the author was trying to play up the hippie/NY chic bit like @bklover and @Cinfhen said. Like @sprainedbrain , I liked the stark contrast between them and their Southern counterparts. ⬇️ 4y
JaclynW (Cont. from ⬆️) I think it helped to solidify the Southern peculiarities that were going on. But I guess there were extreme peculiarities on both sides. 🤣 I thought it added to the book. I actually enjoyed all of the characters and what they brought to the story. You really needed it to pull off this type of story. 4y
Cinfhen When I typed into google “creepy father/ daughter” this image appeared!!! I mean, really.... how could i resist @JaclynW ???? 4y
JaclynW @Cinfhen 😂😂😂😂😂 So hard to resist! You couldn't help it! 4y
Balibee146 Agree with these comments... It was a bit much and didn't feel authentic 4y
ephemeralwaltz LOL at the photo. Both daughter/father pairs are too much. I hated Luker and loved India. She was stuck with a weird bunch. 4y
Cinfhen Yeah, I agree @ephemeralwaltz really a weird bunch and the entire story was CHEESY in my opinion. But plenty of people enjoyed it. Congrats on finishing & not bailing❣️❣️🙌🏻 4y
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