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She Said: Breaking the Sexual Harassment Story That Helped Ignite a Movement | Jodi Kantor, Megan Twohey
From the Pulitzer-prize winning reporters who broke the news of Harvey Weinstein's sexual harassment and abuse for the New York Times, Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey, the thrilling untold story of their investigation and its consequences for the #MeToo movement On October 5, 2017, the New York Times published an article by Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey--and then the world changed. For months Kantor and Twohey had been having confidential discussions with top actresses, former Weinstein employees and other sources, learning of disturbing long-buried allegations, some of which had been covered up by onerous legal settlements. The journalists meticulously picked their way through a web of decades-old secret payouts and nondisclosure agreements, pressed some of the most famous women in the world--and some unknown ones--to risk going on the record, and faced down Weinstein, his team of high-priced defenders, and even his private investigators. But nothing could have prepared them for what followed the publication of their Weinstein story. Within days, a veritable Pandora's Box of sexual harassment and abuse was opened, and women who had suffered in silence for generations began coming forward, trusting that the world would understand their stories. Over the next twelve months, hundreds of men from every walk of life and industry would be outed for mistreating their colleagues. But did too much change--or not enough? Those questions plunged the two journalists into a new phase of reporting and some of their most startling findings yet. With superlative detail, insight, and journalistic expertise, Kantor and Twohey take us for the first time into the very heart of this social shift, reliving in real-time what it took to get the story and giving an up-close portrait of the forces that hindered and spurred change. They describe the surprising journeys of those who spoke up--for the sake of other women, for future generations, and for themselves--and so changed us all.
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ravenlee
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I was worried that the lending period from hoopla was only 2 weeks, not 3; I just finished it in 8 days.

Amazing and powerful and overwhelming. Audio was hard for keeping names straight (there are a lot) but I just sort of went with the flow. Inspired by recently reading Solnit‘s Whose Story Is This?, which directly mentions this book and has an essay dedicated to CBFord, too. Highly recommend.

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Michellesibs
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Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey were the two journalists who broke the story in the New York Times. Together they take us through the build up, the background work, the intensity of the conversations. The breaking of the story and the aftermath.

I felt like I got a real up close look at journalism, I felt the fear of the women who started to speak up, I felt the rage of Weinstein and the puffed out chests of his legal team and I felt angry.

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ilyssa.g
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Truly an outstanding, momentous book!!! The writing is exquisite! Twohey and Kantor made it through so many obstacles to report on Weinstein‘s atrocious behavior and were a pivotal part in moving the #MeToo movement forward. The book is meticulously researched, but no part of it is boring or too bogged down with repetitive, archaic language. This book provides a perfect model displaying the continuing importance towards believing women.

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Just.Linds
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My man got me this book journal for Christmas and I‘m ✨ obsessed✨

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“Why did women have to confine themselves in order to stay safe?” 34

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ClairesReads
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I was glad I read this with a bit of distance on the live reporting of the Weinstein and Kavanaugh cases because it made the narrative more engaging. It‘s the kind of story which is extremely important but is also bound to make you really mad. I was surprised at how much coverage there was of Ford‘s case against Kavanaugh. Although I found this interesting too, it meant that the narrative didn‘t hang together perfectly for me. Important reading.

EKonrad Have you watched the movie? It focuses just on the Weinstein story so you might like it. 1y
ClairesReads @EKonrad not yet but it‘s on my list- sounds good! 1y
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MeganLindell
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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jenniferw88
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#12booksof2022 April

My first (but not last) non-fiction choice @Andrew65

I'm also really bad at tagging #litsylovereads, so these posts will be tagged as such from now on! 😂 @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @StayCurious

Note, not all of them will be 5 🌟, but they're all books that have stayed with me in my mind this year!

Caroline2 I just bought The Priory. 👍 1y
Andrew65 I often find that is the case, not always the five star reads that stay with you. 1y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Awesome 📚👏🏻 1y
jitteryjane724 Sorry I'm so un-tech-savvy...but how do you make picture posts like this? I've seen so many and think it would be fun but not sure the best way to do it. 😅 1y
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Cazxxx
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Next up. I‘ve put this off for a while as I know it‘s going to make my blood boil!

Scochrane26 It‘s really good though. 1y
Cazxxx @Scochrane26 I‘m sure it‘ll be really interesting but definitely a rage read! 1y
Scochrane26 @Cazxxx Yes, it does cause rage 1y
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Lizpixie
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Bk4 of July & Bk3 of #JubilantJuly #readathon is done. This is the story behind the #metoo movement that started with the set of articles published in the NYTimes. Ronan Farrow & the NewYorker get most of the credit but it was actually these two reporters who first chased down & published Ashley Judd & other victims stories while dealing with Weinstein‘s machinations. Very well written. #BookspinBingo #NonFictionBingo2022 #Pageathon

Maria514626 Ooh. This sounds good. Well not good. There‘s a fascinating story in The New Yorker about how Harvey Weinstein lost control of his criminal trial. Shudder. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/06/06/harvey-weinsteins-last-campaign 2y
emmaturi I liked it too. Very fascinating how it all went down. It's been made into a movie too. 2y
SamAnne This was so good. Read it along with Farrow‘s Book. 2y
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TheAromaofBooks Great progress!!! 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @emmaturi I didn‘t know it was made into a movie too‘ 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @SamAnne I read it with Farrows too, both were excellent 2y
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This was a super fast read for me since it was so shocking & a bit fascinating (don‘t know if that‘s the right word but it was very interesting). These 2 journalists from The New York Times broke the story of the Harvey Weinstein scandal. It was so unbelievable that for 25 years he abused & hurt so many women & no either seemed to not notice or care. It‘s heartbreaking to realize how women are just shoved money & sign a no disclosure so they can

ncsufoxes not discuss what happened to them with anyone at all. Meanwhile they are suffering & lawyers have taken a part (a good chunk) of their settlement as their fees. Now I need to read Ronan Farrow‘s book. #bookspin #nonfiction2022 prompt: I‘m out of your comfort zone #booked2022 prompt: written by a journalist 2y
Cinfhen I found this book so compelling!! Great choice 2y
TheAromaofBooks Great progress!! 2y
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kera_11
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this book is told by the journalists that broke the Harvey Weinstein story. the survivors‘ stories and journalistic and legal details that went into gathering information and breaking the story.
they also were involved with Christine Blasey-Ford‘s journey.

kera_11 heartbreaking, awful, disgusting, well-done, determined, powerful, this book is a lot, please be aware of trigger warnings before reading 2y
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Amandakay
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Popsugar challenge: a book becoming a tv series or movie in 2022

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Nebklvr
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Well….this was infuriating. I wish they had written a second book about Ford‘s experience and fleshed it out a bit more.

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anushareflects
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A phenomenal book on the behind the scenes of the reportage that went into breaking the Harvey Weinstein story. It also delves into the Access Hollywood tape & Trump, as well as the Brett Kavanaugh allegations. The book gets your heart racing and it‘s no wonder these two phenomenal women won the Pulitzer Prize. Full review on www.anushareflects.com

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Annie1215
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This is another one that‘s been on my shelves for a while. It was a really interesting retelling from the journalist‘s perspective of the work that went in to exposing Weinstein and Kavanaugh.

It was emotional at times but respectful of the victims.

This finally gets me to a bingo on my #bookspinbingo board.

TheAromaofBooks Yay bingo!! 3y
sarahlandis Absolutely adored this book. The amount of good journalism and integrity.... so good 3y
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DeviShikha
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Weirdly it didn‘t grab me immediately, maybe because I was already so familiar with this case. But about 75 pages in when the details of how Kantor and Twohey persuaded this story really start to become clear I couldn‘t put this book down. As a journalist I love reading about investigative journalism projects.. However I‘m not sure how many readers would agree with me. So I would say ‘She Said‘ is maybe not for everyone. But I loved it.

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mjtwo
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29 Oct - 2 Nov 2020 (audiobook)
Fascinating and thorough account of breaking the Harvey Weinstein story, which also examines Trump and Kavanagh. It is particularly interesting to wonder what the long term impact of the Me Too movement will be. Or whether it has all now been surpassed by 2020.

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BlueBowBooks
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Wow. Great account by the two journalists who covered the Weinstein story.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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A blurb for a new reading group, concentrating on mostly nonfiction books by women called #SheSaid.

I picked the first 3 books, from 3 very different women to get us started:

The first is an African American scholar about voting rights before the upcoming US election

The second is a personal memoir from a sexual assault survivor who felt her name should be at least as well known as her assailant‘s

Lastly, I picked a refugee story
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa My hope is after these we can discuss possibilities and decide as a group. @JHgotham @vlwelser @KVanRead hopefully that gives you a chance to put in any library holds you need to, and for anyone else that is interested in joining in just let me know if you want tagged going forward. (edited) 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey @SamAnne @GingerAntics if you want to jump in on any of these, please feel free 4y
KVanRead Looks great! Thanks for hosting. Looking forward to these! 4y
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GingerAntics I should be able to get that first one for September. 4y
SamAnne Thanks for organizing! 4y
Jgotham Those look good-better get my hold list in order 4y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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I‘ve been thinking about starting another reading group, ever since I read this book (She Said) and To Catch and Kill earlier this year. I even created a Goodreads group for it, but then life got a little crazy and I got distracted.

Any interest in a #SheSaid book group....books by woman or women‘s issues/POV, a lot of nonfiction, an occasional fiction?

Books I‘m thinking about reading yet this year (for instance): (posted below)

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Daisey I‘m always interested in the books you‘re reading, but I don‘t think there‘s any way I can join another group. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey I understand that, it‘s one of the reasons I didn‘t pursue it earlier...but then I looked back at what I had read and realized I was reading books that fit it every month anyway. 🤷‍♀️ 4y
Jgotham Definitely interested. 4y
GingerAntics All three of those books sound really interesting. I don‘t know if I‘ll be able to read them exactly with the group, but they‘re going on my wish list and I look forward to the conversations. 4y
GingerAntics Oh wow, there are way more books that I first saw. Now I have to check these out, too. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @GingerAntics I know we talked about Reading Mary Roach‘s Bonk together, that would fit here too. 4y
vlwelser Definitely interested. 😃 4y
SamAnne @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I would be interested in jumping into so group reads. I too have too many book clubs going but like you, I'm reading a lot of these anyway! 4y
KVanRead Awesome list and awesome idea! I‘m definitely interested! Know My Name is our city-wide library read this year and I just ordered a copy. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @KVanRead @SamAnne @vlwelser @GingerAntics @JHgotham @Daisey for those definitely interested or maybe interested I‘m thinking about starting next month with either Know My Name or One Person, No Vote for Sept and then the other for October. My thinking is the voting one would be good to read before Election Day and Know My Name is likely to show up on many end of year lists. Any preference for which one first, or library availability? (edited) 4y
KVanRead Either‘s good with me 😊 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Here‘s where we started @tenar , if you are curious. So yes, we just Just started. 4y
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vlwelser
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I thought this was really interesting. It goes into detail about the investigation into the Weinstein accusations. And how they convinced women to speak out. But it's also about other women that spoke out about other men and companies. It's definitely well written.

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PurpleTulipGirl
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Started this last night. I‘m glad these reporters were courageous enough to take on such a complex, pervasive problem.

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Mitch
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Went back and relistened to this today Chana Hoffa Walt is sooooooo good. She has her own series out this week from the makers of Serial and I‘m super excited to listen ( Nice White Parents).

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cariashley
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After reading and loving Catch and Kill, I had a slight worry this would feel repetitive, but it really didn‘t. As usual, I have a bottomless capacity for rage reads. Excellent, especially the audio version.

SamAnne They are really complementary. 4y
Prairiegirl_reading The audio for catch and kill is terrible. I want to get to this one, I put it on hold on Libby and I always end up getting a bunch of holds all at once and I never get to it! 😩 4y
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A definite pick, but one I found to be much less emotional for me than Catch and Kill by Ronan Farrow. That is, until they got to the section on Christine Blasey Ford/Brett Kavanaugh. Yowzer, that part did me in.

SamAnne Loved this book. And really hammers home the hard diligent work stellar reporting requires esp. when it come to sexual assault survivors and sensitive personal stories. 4y
Suet624 @SamAnne I agree. they did an amazing job with the story. 4y
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wicdiv
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A powerful book exploring the journeys to reporting the allegations on Harvey Weinstein and Brett Kavanaugh. All of the women in this book are so brave for speaking up and helping others speak up and it truly opened doors for other people to do the same as them.

My only gripe with his book is that the pivot from HW to BK seems a bit abrupt, but the content is incredibly interesting.

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kaykay521
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A solid look at the investigative journalists at the heart of the Harvey Weinstein harassment story. How long have we as women endured behavior like his? When is enough enough? Do civil suits help or hurt harassment victims? What about non disclosure agreements? These are just some of the questions tackled.

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sarahlandis
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Holy shit this book was so good. This book is told by the journalists that broke the Harvey Weinstein story. It gave the excruciating details of the victims‘ stories and all little journalistic and legal details that went into gathering information and actually breaking the story. It touched on Bill Cosby, Trump, Kavanaugh, Brock Turner, and even Aziz Ansari- the power dynamics, abuse, and silence that have created the system that keeps victims

sarahlandis down and caters to abusers. It talks about the complexities of the me too movement, how for all the good it‘s doing, giving voice to the used-to-be powerless, it‘s also completely uncharted territory that we must tread with care. This book is just as enraging as it is motivating. Things change and things stay the same, progress doesn‘t happen in the straight line. 4y
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Chelsea.Poole
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Maddening. very similar to "Catch and Kill" by Ronan Farrow, as it covers the same incidents with Weinstein, but I think it is worthwhile to read both. Two NYT reporters worked tirelessly to build relationships and interview victims of sexual assault perpetrated by H. Weinstein. Dr. Ford's testimony is also featured. This is a book for the #metoo movement. #nonfiction

SamAnne Agree. Very complementary books and each well worth the read. 4y
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Chelsea.Poole
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I'm just so angry. How is this possible 🤯🤬
#nonfiction

Bookish_B Yep. That book made me all sorts of ragey. 4y
Gissy I'm lost! Why are you angry? How is that book? 4y
Chelsea.Poole @Bookish_B gah!! I can't stand it! I want the word to be better than this 😩 4y
Chelsea.Poole @Gissy The books is fantastic, but I'm angry about the content...the way women are treated and how men have gotten away with sexual assault and other misbehaviors for way too long. It's about the women who told their stories about Harvey Weinstein and Dr. Ford who told her story during the hearing for Supreme Court associate justice Brett Kavanaugh. 4y
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MaggieCarr
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So I really enjoyed I'll Be Gone In The Dark and juat finished She Said. I'm not ready to assume all investigative journalism books are as intriguing as these as I struggled to put them down.

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Much like “Catch and Kill,” I‘m oscillating between fury at the men who thought this behavior was okay, the men - and women - who enabled it, and the men who continue to take no responsibility for their actions, claiming instead that everything is a witch hunt, and admiration for the women who said “enough is enough, it‘s time for me to tell my story,” and the reporters who followed through to get it out there. #shesaid #jodikantor #megantwohey

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Today‘s #QuarantineRead 🦠📚

I‘m finally working from home - bless the British Museum for taking this long - but it‘s a bit hard to be a librarian without a library!

Hope everyone is staying sane and healthy 💓

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Her victory had been telling her story to the world with dignity, she said. Maybe that would make it easier for the next generation of victims to come forward. And maybe the people vetting candidates for the court would be more careful next time.

Thank you, Christine. You are not alone. #metoo

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As we write this, in May 2019, Weinstein awaits a criminal trial for alleged rape and other sexual abuse and faces a volley of civil suits...no matter the outcome of those cases, we hope this book will serve as a lasting record of Weinstein‘s legacy: his exploitation of the workplace to manipulate, pressure, and terrorize women.

Guess what bitches! It‘s March 2020 and that motherfucker is in gaol!😍🖕🏻✊🏻

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Knowing (some of) the outcome of the Harvey Weinstein story in no way diminishes the power of this book. The fear of these women as they were assaulted and then deciding whether or not to speak out is palpable and tense. The story then flows seamlessly into that of Christine Blasey Ford. Terrific book. This one and Catch and Kill really compliment one another well.

Megabooks I‘m going to try to finish the #lmpbc choice by the 15th so it has plenty of time to get to you. I enjoyed She Said, too, but I haven‘t finished Catch and Kill. 4y
katy4peas This sounds like a good read. What does lmpbc stand for? 4y
Hooked_on_books @katy4peas LMPBC is Litsy Marked-up Postal Book Club. It is run by @suvata , who posts sign-ups every 4 months. There are 4 people per group. Each chooses a book, reads it, and writes comments and thoughts in the book itself, then mails it off at the end of the month to the next person in the group so everyone reads all 4 books. Then you get your book back at the end and read everyone‘s comments! It‘s fun. Next sign-up will be May/June. 4y
Hooked_on_books @Megabooks That works. Just so you know, priority flat rate mailers get to HI in about 3 days and are the same rate as anywhere on the mainland (I had thought they‘d be more). Media mail to here is even less predictable than on the mainland. 4y
katy4peas @Hooked_on_books oh that sounds fun. Thanks for the explanation! 4y
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I‘m a bit over halfway through, and gratified that on this day, Harvey Weinstein has been sentenced to 23 years in prison. As this is at the high end of the potential sentence, I‘m thrilled. I‘ve had to read this book more slowly than I expected—seeing the raw fear on the page of the women he terrorized for decades is really hard. It‘s so well written, though.

Lesanne Oooh, that looks good! I think I‘ll add it to my TBR list. 😊 4y
mollyrotondo Yes, the max was 27. So very good that he got 23 4y
Megabooks So happy with the sentence!! 4y
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My holds are in! I have had the tagged book on hold since SEPTEMBER and I FINALLY HAVE IT IN MY HANDS!!!! 🥳 (There‘s no “evil cackle with fingers tapping together” emoji, so I‘ll go with this one.) I would say I‘ll first finish what I have going before starting this one, but who am I kidding? I‘m diving in tonight!

Oh, and I‘m super excited for the other one, too. 😬😆

Cinfhen Be prepared for your blood to boil 4y
Hooked_on_books @Cinfhen I‘ve started it and I‘m ready. I already have Catch and Kill under my belt, so I know some of the story. It‘s flabbergasting the lengths rich men will go to to protect their bad behavior. At least they‘re being exposed now, though it‘s interesting that one has been convicted of rape while another is in the Oval Office. 😤 4y
Cinfhen And I‘m currently listening to another story of a BAD BAD DUDE but this book is so poorly written that I may need to bail 4y
Hooked_on_books @Cinfhen His story is insane, what little I know of it. I didn‘t know Patterson wrote NF. Based on your comment, maybe he shouldn‘t. 🤔 4y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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This is a necessary read and I thought it and To Catch and Kill were great books to read together, they both complement each other and come at the same story from different angles and face different obstacles & pressures. Both highlight the importance of good solid journalism, the hard work that goes into it, and why it‘s such an important & necessary part of a fair & just society. We should all strive against “Fake News” curated by the powerful

Come-read-with-me That‘s a great idea to pair these two books. I read them in close approximation to one another - really packed a punch! 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Come-read-with-me I read one in Jan. and one in Feb. I think it made me appreciate both so much more. 4y
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Open discussion time!

What did you think?
Was this the first book that you‘ve read about this subject?
Were you surprised by the other stories that got wrapped into this book?
How about how the current laws acted to protect the predators rather than stop them?

What questions do you have?
Would you be interested in another group read next month?

I‘ll post my answers below and try to tag everyone who showed and interest in this topic.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Additional Question: how weird was it reading this when the verdict came down? And did anyone else feel a bit cheated that we didn‘t get to see his perp walk, or that he ended up at a hospital instead of jail after all of that. 4y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa I really liked this book, so different and yet overlapping with To Catch and Kill and honestly I‘d recommend them both. And by that answer you can tell I read a Catch and Kill first, then Brave by Rose McGowen, and then She Said. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I was surprised about how many other “She Said” stories were woven into this one from a Trump in the beginning and onward. 4y
ravenlee @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘d like to share a recent news story I think connects to your discussion (tell me if it‘s out of line and I‘ll remove it) https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/02/27/rape-culture-school-dance/ Feeding rape culture at middle school dances. 😡 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa The way the laws are set up to basically help cover ups shocked me... I knew they existed, from Catch and Kill I learned how many news organizations were complicity helping covering up stories by buying them and then burying them, I thought that was disgusting....but the amount of clauses they seemed to be able to force on the parties that were wronged were outrageous. That blew my mind. And Lisa Bloom! 😡 she came off horribly in Farrow‘s book, 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...but came off even worse here! Which by the way leads me to I loved some of the follow up pieces they published in this one...emails recovered from Bloom to Weinstein for instance were powerful journalistic pieces that I appreciated being able to see. (edited) 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ravenlee Open discussion, post anything! I think we (as women) have been silencing our thoughts and issues way to long...so no holds barred discussion here. As long as everyone is respectful, you can post anything. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ravenlee Great article...and yes I think it is completely relevant. I understand that they think both sides can ask, and the other must say yes...but stereotypes still exist, so it will usually boil down to boys asking girls and girls being required to say yes. Plus, I hate that their fix was to keep her daughter from the dances. 4y
ravenlee So much about the dance thing bothers me! I‘d be ok if they said you can politely refuse but sit out that dance, so you‘re not refusing one boy in favor of another all the time, and bringing a level of thought into it, but forcing middle school girls to let any boy put hands on her just because he asked? No way. 4y
Scochrane26 I‘ve read several books about rape/sexual abuse, mostly while I was in grad school. I don‘t read as much now because as a therapist/social worker, I hear about trauma & don‘t want to read it in personal life. I loved this book but was surprised that they included the Ford story. I appreciated it though because I‘ve struggled with the question of when we should stop holding assaults against people. 4y
Scochrane26 W/ kavanaugh, I feel he was up for such an influential position& took no responsibility for his actions, he should still be held accountable. I used to work w/ juvenile sex offenders & have been recently disheartened to find out that there is less investigation & accountability in child on child abuse than 15 yrs ago when I worked w/ that group. It‘s still so prevalent & in order to stop it, I feel it has to be dealt w/ when they‘re young. 4y
Scochrane26 And I try to teach my teens about consent to hopefully avoid sexual assaults in hs/college. But, harassment, such as gestures & comments, start young. I‘ve had to talk w/ 4th & 5th graders about not touching girls‘ butts, not making sexual comments. 4y
Daisey This is the first book I‘ve read on this topic, but I do have Catch & Kill on hold. I found it interesting how the different stories were woven together, although I didn‘t feel the Ford story fit especially well. Yet, I did appreciate more background on it. The NDAs and how they protect the men at fault were one of the most eye opening and frustrating things to me. I did not have a good understanding of that before. 4y
BarbaraTheBibliophage I failed. 😰 Didn‘t get to this one in February. In March my IRL book group is reading Catch and Kill, so I‘ll either jump into She Said right after or need a break first. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ravenlee yes... I‘m sure they starting thinking that would be anti-bullying, no one would be singled out as no one wants to dance with you.... but we have to find a way to do that without it being at the expense of girls autonomy. Giving boys complete access to girls, is not an acceptable way to do that...at all. It teaches other bad tendencies. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Scochrane26 I agree with all of that! Kavanaugh still troubles me, I so wanted to believe we had come so far since Anita Hill‘s testimony, and that hearing was such a slap in the face. And his temper at the hearing made him look so much worse, I still can‘t believe that was rewarded. And yes, I don‘t think all juvenile things should be swept under the rug, animal abuse in youth is a good predictor of not feeling empathy for others, why would. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...we want to hide indicators that people have issues that need treatment and therapy, at the least. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Scochrane26 But here in my local area, there were a group of teen boys caught torturing animals, they put it online, and they were castigated...and then the tone completely shifted to those poor boys, they are being treated horrible, boys will be boys, etc. I agree, they should not have been receiving death threats, but they should have been shamed for being cruel and sentenced to mandatory therapy. (edited) 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BarbaraTheBibliophage That‘s ok, both are excellent! 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey I thought I knew, but it was way worse than I ever imagined. I can‘t wait to see what you think of Catch & Kill 4y
Librarybelle I didn‘t have a chance to read this one yet, but it‘s high on my to read list! I have read Catch and Kill...Farrow is amazing. I‘m looking forward to She Said for more insight. 4y
Scochrane26 @Daisey I agree about the Ford story not fitting well, I wasn‘t expecting it to be included. I did learn a lot from it though. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Librarybelle I read Catch and Kill first and was afraid the overlap might make this one go slower...no at all. You get different points of view on some people...and a totally different process. The support these journalist got from the beginning was how journalism should work, that said seeing his Farrow was repeatedly shut down and sidelined at every turn because NBC was part of the problem was informative in its own right. Both books are... 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...amazing journalism. 4y
Scochrane26 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I also was disgusted by Lisa Bloom, then I realized after the verdict, that Weinstein had another female lawyer. I felt betrayed. 4y
rsteve388 I read this book months before the verdict and I was surprised and overjoyed that he was convicted... I was honestly expecting to be let down by the criminal justice system. She Said and Catch and Kill both surprised me with the lengths HW went to, to scare and intimidate reporters by using a (spy?) Agency. Wild! 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @rsteve388 Right! And yet he wasn‘t convicted on the predatory behavior charge? 🤯. If he didn‘t qualify for that, who and what would? 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Scochrane26 Yes! I wasn‘t super happy with the other “feminist” lawyer Gloria Allred either. Whether they were representing the men or women, they all were horrible, representing the women and getting 40% of the payout...they were all in it for the money and honestly aiding & abetting the predators in covering it up for money. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @rsteve388 Black Cube was really some next level scary stuff. I liked that Farrow‘s book followed up on that even more. 4y
Mitch I really thought this book was super powerful. It was an amazing insight into responsible journalism and I really loved seeing their process working. 4y
Mitch I hadn‘t read much about the book going in - so was surprised about the Ford part. I‘ve got mixed feelings I think. Part of me felt the broadening of the scope took it away from their own process and undermined the importance of that one story. But then the other half of me could see the connections they made to interweave the narratives. Not sure it was 100%successful ??? 4y
Hooked_on_books I‘m not going to read through the comments or even the question yet, as I haven‘t gotten my hands on a copy. I‘ve had it on hold since SEPTEMBER and it finally says “in transit.” I definitely plan to revisit this post once I finally have the book. 4y
alisiakae @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Catching up on this thread will take a few minutes but 1. Very frustrated that Weinstein is playing the pity card post-conviction. His spokesperson described him as being very melancholy and low right now. Tough sh*t buddy, that's what you get for being an predatory ahole for decades. 2. I listened on audio in Nov, I found the end when all the women got together
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alisiakae As a rape survivor myself, and experiencing a lot of workplace discrimination in my 20s, I was not surprised by anything in the book. It is not the first book I've read on the subject, although I read books like this very rarely because it can still be triggering for me at times, but much less often than it used to be. At the time of my rape, I was encouraged by the lawyer I spoke to not to press charges because of “how it would impact my family.“ 4y
alisiakae @ravenlee I actually commented on the middle school dance article in a parents of middle schoolers group I am in. It essentially takes away the ability to give consent to the concerned person. Teach how to respond (and decline) an invitation with kindness - yes. Forcing a child to say yes - NO. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘ll just add this article I just saw here... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-harvey-weinstein-bellevue-idUSKBN20N12... poor baby, maybe send him to jail where he belongs. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Hooked_on_books Feel free to stop back after you‘ve had a chance to read it. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @4thhouseontheleft looking back on it now, and after this book, do you think the lawyer did you a service or disservice suggesting that. After reading this book, I want to say that lawyer didn‘t do their job for you, but having not been in that situation, I also feel like I shouldn‘t step on survivors toes with my opinion. I just wish there were better options and expectations for support that victims could count on....I don‘t feel like lawyers 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ..should be pushing things that shut down the conversation and people telling their story. 4y
alisiakae @Riveted_Reader_Melissa absolutely. I‘ve thought that for years. This happened back in 2000. I received some terrible advice at the time, a lot of it because the person who did it was an ex-boyfriend. Looking back, the whole relationship was toxic. And I didn‘t have support from my family. I can‘t undo the decision I made not to press charges, nor do I feel guilt. I didn‘t have a strong support system, and I was 20, alone and traumatized. 4y
Joanne1 Oh, so much of this book was an education for me. I‘m in Australia so these stories were on my radar but I had no idea about the extent, the laws protecting perps (although I think Australia has similar NDAs) etc. what I loved was the insight into the journalistic process, how the story was slowly brought together. There was such a great sense of tension in the section just before the story broke with HW bargaining and threatening to stop it. 4y
Joanne1 I‘ll add, while the Ford part was interesting and I‘ll never understand how Kavanagh got the job (or Trump for that matter), I found it made the book really disjointed. It felt tacked on the end which doesn‘t do that story justice. 4y
rsteve388 I agree with the tacking on of the other stories of sexual assult by other predators. Important but made the whole story feel choppy 4y
Amandajoy I‘m still listening to it (I‘m in chapter 3). I‘m very impressed by the investigative reporting done. So far there are a lot of things regarding NDAs that I had read about some in news articles, but learning more about them is mind blowing. I want to classify them as “gag orders” rather than NDAs. 4y
ravenlee That article was very good. I wish there had been a little more to it. 4y
Hooked_on_books I finally got the book and finished. Really good discussion here. I actually think the Blasey Ford section worked well, but the transition from her story to the epilogue was lacking. Overall, I thought it was phenomenal. I could really feel the fear of these women, which was hard. I feel like focusing on the women was where this book excelled. For me, Catch and Kill had more of a focus on the attempted silencing of the story coming out. 👇🏼 4y
Hooked_on_books I think they complimented one another well. Both were harrowing and difficult to read because of the content, but that‘s expected. I also think the work to uncover these crimes and help women speak out has provided a foundation on which to build and continue to improve the rights of women and the platform to hear our voices. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Hooked_on_books I‘m so glad you got a chance to finish it! I felt they really complimented each other too...and both in such important ways. Both the stories of how the media was squashing the story, and the perpetrators were literally hiring spy organizations to intimidate and discredit victims, and the nuts and bolts of the women‘s story. I find myself grateful to have read them close together. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Hooked_on_books As much as the Blasey Ford section seemed off, I think it was a good connection to how the larger story for women progressed...and I was amazed by how some of the people connected and overlapped. I loved the meeting at the end, and how they could all talk to, commiserate, and encourage each other. 4y
Hooked_on_books Oh, for sure, the meeting was the perfect cap to the book. Great to end with that and I‘m glad they did it, both for the reporting and for the women. Those present and others who have been victimized. 4y
kindergartenkat I read Know My Name also this last month, so it made for some difficult but important reading. The way the system is rigged against victims of sexual assault is heartbreaking. I am glad brave women are standing up and telling the world their stories so we can begin to change. She Said was so well done. It was almost like reading a thriller waiting to see if they would get to publish! I want to read Brave also. 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @kindergartenkat I felt that way about To Catch and Kill which I read first, it read like a spy novel and I really wasn‘t sure his would ever see the light of day. I read Brave after that, Know My Name is sitting on my self waiting, but I just needed a break. 4y
kindergartenkat I just went and put a hold on Catch and Kill! 4y
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My roundup for the month! I got nothing for #readingeurope2020 @BarbaraBB and @Librarybelle ☹️☹️ I‘m sorry!

I think I‘m 21/24 on #booked2020 👍🏻👍🏻

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🎧 15
📚 6
Ebook 6

Nonfiction 19
Fiction 8

Librarybelle Impressive numbers! No worries about Europe! 4y
TheAromaofBooks Great month! I also went NOWHERE for #ReadingEurope2020!! 4y
Megabooks @Librarybelle thanks 😊😊 4y
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Megabooks @TheAromaofBooks thank you!! No armchair travel for us lol! 4y
Cinfhen WOW 👍🏽#Booked2020 #GoGirl 4y
Megabooks @Cinfhen thanks!! Really great prompts this year! 👍🏻👏🏻 4y
kspenmoll Fantastic! 4y
BarbaraBB 27 books, that is soooo good!! 💕 4y
Megabooks @kspenmoll thanks!! 4y
Megabooks @BarbaraBB thank you!! 😘😘 4y
erzascarletbookgasm Impressive! 👏 4y
Megabooks @erzascarletbookgasm thanks!! 😊😊 4y
Reviewsbylola Damn girl, you‘re CRUSHING #booked2020! 4y
Megabooks @Reviewsbylola whoop whoop!! 😁🥂 4y
britt_brooke Still on that nonfiction roll, I see! 👏🏻 4y
Megabooks @britt_brooke yup!! 😂😂 you too? 4y
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Mega reading month! I‘ve relived island life, but in a much sunnier clime, been absorbed by marsh, disappointed in the Sunshine State, inspired by an authors personal journey & fascinated with a woman courageously carving her path. 2x five star reads - both giving voice to women, one in Troy and one in Washington. And a near five star read - which caught me by surprise and will stay with me for a while - especially when in the supermarket!