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Taming of the Shrew (Updated)
Taming of the Shrew (Updated) | William Shakespeare
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Love and marriage are the concerns of Shakespeare's The Taming of the Shrew. Lucentio's marriage to Bianca is prompted by his idealized love of an apparently ideal woman. Petruchio's wooing of Katherine, however, is free of idealism. Petruchio takes money from Bianca's suitors to woo her, since Katherine must marry before her sister by her father's decree; he also arranges the dowry with her father. Petruchio is then ready to marry Katherine, even against her will. Katherine, the shrew of the play's title, certainly acts much changed. But have she and Petruchio learned to love each other? Or is the marriage based on terror and deception? The authoritative edition of The Taming of the Shrew from The Folger Shakespeare Library, the trusted and widely used Shakespeare series for students and general readers, includes: -Freshly edited text based on the best early printed version of the play -Newly revised explanatory notes conveniently placed on pages facing the text of the play -Scene-by-scene plot summaries -A key to the play's famous lines and phrases -An introduction to reading Shakespeare's language -An essay by a leading Shakespeare scholar providing a modern perspective on the play -Fresh images from the Folger Shakespeare Library's vast holdings of rare books -An up-to-date annotated guide to further reading Essay by Karen Newman The Folger Shakespeare Library in Washington, DC, is home to the world's largest collection of Shakespeare's printed works, and a magnet for Shakespeare scholars from around the globe. In addition to exhibitions open to the public throughout the year, the Folger offers a full calendar of performances and programs. For more information, visit Folger.edu.
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DarcysMom
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WomanistBibliophile I despise it! Had to read it at school and didn‘t find it humorous in the least. The breaking of a woman‘s spirit is always tragic 4d
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AliceFaustus
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DarcysMom
Taming of the Shrew (Updated) | William Shakespeare
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DarcysMom
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WomanistBibliophile
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare

This play was our set text for GCSE; our teacher polled the class, giving us a choice between this & another Shakespeare—whatever the other was, I voted for that. I didn‘t want to study a woman being tamed by a man. &, outvoted, I loathed every line. Loathed even more that no critique was encouraged of the misogyny-laden text. We were supposed to accept the brilliance of a man‘s portrayal of a woman being broken, to revel in the humour of it. ...

WomanistBibliophile To me it was tragic. 2mo
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Melismatic
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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Nothing makes #Shakespeare come alive like seeing it performed in person. A local troupe was performing the tagged play in the middle of a local park in #Brooklyn. So fun...and funny despite the play having some serious misogynistic undertones. Petrucio was played by a local pro wrestler and he was incredible! 😂💃🏻📜

Makes me want to read more of the Bard. What‘s your fave?

Melismatic @TheBookHippie love Macbeth! I‘ve never read Windsor! Adding to the stack.... 6mo
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Jazinator
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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Book #22: A new year meant that I was off to the races to try and get as many books read as I could. Often this means reading the most accessible (meaning books I already have) and shortest books I can find on the list. In this instance it meant catching up on the Shakespearean plays on the lists because there is a ton of them. Personally, I am not...

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EmilieGR
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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Funny but forgettable

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Clwojick
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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The #MayMadness challenge starts next week, so I‘ll be getting my week one stack together shortly.

Here are my recommendations for week ones “Book to TV/Movie Adaptation” theme. Have any of you read these books, or watched the adaptations? Which ones your favourite on the list?

#Recommendsday #MayMadness @RadicalReader @Clwojick

Kaila-ann The Help was good in both formats. 10mo
Lchnessmnstr I loved both versions of Ready Player One but many of my book loving friends had strong negative feelings about the movie. 10mo
Lchnessmnstr I also read and watched the BFG. I prefer the book. I think I‘m better at imaging myself in the role of a child main character than I am at watching children actors... 10mo
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GloVerdino I liked both versions of Big Little Lies, You, and Me Before You. I liked the Pretty Little Liars show but I read the first book in the series and I was not as good as the show! And I usually prefer the book! 10mo
mom2bugnbee @Kaila-ann Agree with you about The Help. @Lchnessmnstr Agree with you about Ready Player One. A movie like that is never going to touch on every facet of the book. People need to understand that they are two different media. Both were a lot of fun, IMO. 10mo
BookHoarder32 10 Things I Hate About You is my all time favorite movie. Julia Stiles and Heath Ledger are 💥. I liked both Ready Player Ones too even though they are different. 10mo
Sharpeipup Seen all but 2 actually. Many adaptations were really well done such as 10mo
girlwiththeglasses I liked Ready Player One!! But I think I prefer the book 😅 10mo
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Blueberry
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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The ultimate in vanity: Shakespeare's Petrochio of The Taming of the Shrew.

#Youresovain #marchintothe70s @Lizpixie @Cinfhen

Cinfhen Any guy who can run errands in a mini skirt, black velvet duster and knee high heeled boots and still manage to look both cool & effortless has to be SO VAIN 😜😂😂😂😆 12mo
Blueberry @Cinfhen 🤣😍 12mo
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kmshaffer
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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Reading through some Shakespeare this evening 🎭 #day24

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jpmcwisemorgan
Taming of the shrew | William Shakespeare
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Bookishgal71
Taming of the shrew | William Shakespeare
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It‘s a surprise, sometimes, to see how bawdy the greats could be. I imagined Elizabeth Taylor as Kate the whole time.

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paulfrankspencer
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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Shakespeare is timeless, but still a product of his time. Thus, super sexist. But also very entertaining.

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JacintaMCarter
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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Got a small cut on my arm today, which provided the perfect opportunity to use one of my Shakespearean insult bandaids.

Quirkybookworm Omgoodness!! Love!❤️❤️ 1y
Leftcoastzen Those are awesome! 1y
Ahomeinpages Oh! Omg, that is nothing short of brilliant😍 1y
Sace That's awesome! 1y
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Christinak
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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“If I be waspish, best beware my sting.”

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madamereadsalot1
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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Congrats @LittleBug on the milestone & thanks for the #litfluencegiveaway !
1. In bed or parked in my car with the windows down on a cool, breezy day.
2. Usually by author
3. My heart is at the library! But when I do go to a bookstore, it's almost always Half Price Books!

I'd pick classics, because Taming of the Shrew is my favorite by the Bard, & I've always wanted to read the other two but still haven't.

LittleBug Thanks for playing!! 1y
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madamereadsalot1
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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#readingresolutions day 20 #rich @Jess7

One of my favorite comedies, by the Bard or otherwise.

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Jess_Read_This
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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Wonderfully led discussion by merelybookish (when tagging is available I‘ll properly tag you) in the #ShakespeareReadAlong.

This play left me feeling rather flat and sad to see the changes wrought in Kate by a male dominated society. Meant to be a comedy, there were portions that rather horrified me and I didn‘t laugh like I hoped I would. Best part of reading this book: the discussions with the readalong group!

Cinfhen Pretty pic 2y
tammysue Lovely roses ! 💗 2y
CoffeeNBooks I agree, exactly what you said. 2y
Jess_Read_This @Cinfhen @whatshesreadingnow Thank you so much! 💕💕💕 2y
Jess_Read_This @CoffeeNBooks Hopefully the next one will be better! 2y
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InLibrisVeritas
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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I am trying out #readercoin which is an app that let's you listen to audios and get rewarded by doing so. You get a point for every 10 mins and you can use those points for items or pay outs. It seems pretty cool so far, and a great way to tackle the classics. So I have loaded up on Shakespeare and Sherlock Holmes.

If you would like to try it out you can use my code, Michevsv , and get 50 points to start out with.

jpmcwisemorgan I think this is going to be very useful because of the audio option. I like to do dishes and fold laundry to audiobooks. 2y
wanderinglynn Thanks for sharing. I just downloaded the app. 2y
InLibrisVeritas @jpmcwisemorgan Exactly! I have a job where I can listen to stuff, so audios have been a staple for me 2y
InLibrisVeritas @wanderinglynn No problem! Hopefully it's something you can get some use out of 2y
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merelybookish
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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All right #shakespearereadalong friends, we've reached the end. And again, Liz's puzzled face says it all.
In Act V, we learn that K. Is the superior wife because she obliges her husband. We also get a gross speech on wifely behavior from Kat.
I cry foul that Christopher Sly does not reappear!! Will K's marriage be happier than B's?
Do our true natures out in the end?
Overall, better performed on stage, I expect. What are your final thoughts?

GingerAntics I read that K‘s speech may have been intended as sarcasm, but again that is clearer in a production than a reading, so I‘m not so sure about this theory at this point. Yeah, this ended just sort of fell flat for me. Eh. 2y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yep, I agree...I loved the banter when preformed, but disliked the play. Blah!👎 2y
TheBookHippie Love the banter it's better on stage and film I think but I enjoyed reading it as it enhances watching it . 2y
CoffeeNBooks This is my least favorite of his plays. I feel like he got bored at the end & forgot to wrap up the whole Christopher Sly angle. The only thing I can think with Katherine's behavior at the end, is that she does what her husband asks of her (not unusual for the time period) because she knows he respects her. Bianca is married to someone who was interested in her looks above all else, & may not feel he respects her. Or maybe I'm completely wrong. 🙄 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics I just read the essay at the end of my edition and the writer says the same thing. He said a clever actress highlights the sarcasm. I did not glean sarcasm from a straight read of it...the sarcasm angle makes me feel a little better? 2y
GingerAntics @jess_read_this yeah, I had the same thought. It makes me feel a little better-ish, but it‘s still sort of like a drop off ending. 2y
Jess_Read_This I felt let down at the end of the play. It just didn‘t seem like the same playwright who wrote so many other strong female leads, wrote this. I didn‘t laugh or find it comical, like I hoped to. It just seemed like an argument for the conventional marriage of the time. Maybe I read it too much at face value and with a literal mindedness, so I could have missed something? I did find it interesting that Bianca seems like more of a shrew in the end. 2y
Lcsmcat @CoffeeNBooks I agree. I feel like B is going to cause some pain in her marriage. 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics Exactly! We start the play w a fiery Kate and end up with a 16th century Stepford wife Kate (edited) 2y
GingerAntics @jess_read_this EXACTLY!!! Eh. 2y
Lcsmcat I‘ve seen a couple of productions of this and none of them use the opening bit with Sly, and now I suspect it‘s because it seems like Shakespeare kind of forgot him too! 2y
Jess_Read_This @Lcsmcat Poor Sly just can‘t catch a break! 2y
DeleteAcct I totally felt robbed that Christopher Sly wasn't mentioned again! This was the most annoying to me. I did laugh at the banter and it seems the Katherine in the end made the better marriage. I would like to see this on stage, I hear it's better. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Jess_Read_This Yep, that‘s how I felt too! You nailed it. 2y
batsy I agree, @Jess_Read_This ! This was my general impression, too. I read an article somewhere (can't remember which one now) that said since it was one of his early plays, it seems as though even Shakespeare himself seemed to move on and create more complex female characters as he went along. 2y
GingerAntics Not going to lie, I kind of hope K ends up smothering P at some point after the events of the play. 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics This might be one of those plays in which we ought to write the sequel 🤔 2y
GingerAntics @jess_read_this I agree. I have this mental image of K humming this song “Keep Awake” every night as she goes to bed, just to freak him out. 2y
Jess_Read_This @batsy That makes sense, I didn‘t take into account how early this one was written. 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics and maybe sewing one of his doublet sleeves shut. Then telling him he looks amazing and no other doublet will do for him. 2y
GingerAntics @jess_read_this YES YES THIS!!! She would do all sorts of little “innocent” things trying to help him, then in the end she smothers him in his sleep. Yes, this is good. This play is going to be AWESOME!!! 2y
GingerAntics @batsy @jess_read_this it is one of the earlier plays. Someone suggested along the way that this was almost like a writing exercise he got sick of, so he just ended it. It definitely feels like he got into his stride as a playwright after this play. 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics And then! She will take that extra dowry P got for her and use it for a horse rescue farm. She‘ll rescue mistreated and elderly horses and tell P they are show horses. All prior to the pillow smothering that will take place. 2y
GingerAntics @jess_read_this PERFECT!!! Perfect!!! Yes!!! Part of me wants this to also be a musical. lol (edited) 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics I think singing and dancing while pillow smothering is a must. 😂 2y
GingerAntics @jess_read_this I don‘t understand how anyone could smother another human being while NOT singing. It‘s what one does while smothering. Isn‘t it? This is going to be the best play ever!!! 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics I think it has the makings of Tony award worthiness. I have this mental image of K warbling “the hills are aliiiiiive with the sound of music” while pillow smothering. Then twirling. 2y
GingerAntics @jess_read_this yes...yes...I can see the awards coming in already!!! Ever high school theatre department in the country (possibly the world) is going to want to do this thing in no time. This is great. 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics We‘ve completely revolutionized this play lol 2y
readinginthedark @Rachbb3 It's definitely better on stage! The actress playing K can revolutionize the character. 2y
readinginthedark @CoffeeNBooks I agree! But I also wonder if that's just what we want to be true about these relationships.... 🤔 2y
readinginthedark I definitely feel that this is one of Shakespeare's plays more open to interpretation. How an actor or actress reads a part can completely change the meaning of the text! 2y
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batsy
The Taming of the Shrew | William Shakespeare
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One of the repeat reads for #ShakespeareReadAlong where I dislike the play more than the first time. It feels harsh & cynical; the humour forced. Not an outright pan because the concepts of identity & disguise & how that exerts force on a character are compelling. But it's hard to read this as a farce when you come to the final monologue on wifeliness. I can only read it "straight"(?) & I'm not impressed. This is one of his early works & it shows.

batsy Thanks for hosting this month's discussions, @merelybookish ! 2y
saresmoore Your review makes me think I need to reread this. I haven‘t read it closely since I was a young teen (at which point I loved it). 2y
twohectobooks I haven‘t read this one yet. I do like this cover, though! 2y
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batsy @saresmoore I read it in college, and I remembered liking it. But that's because I somehow thought Kate was saying everything with a wink, which I can't seem to see this time. So I might have been filtering it through literary analysis and 10 Things I Hate About You 🤔🤦🏾‍♀️ 2y
batsy @twohectobooks The covers for these editions are pretty nice :) 2y
GingerAntics I read that the last scene is supposed to be irony. K doesn‘t really mean what she says, she‘s just playing along with P‘s madness. It doesn‘t make me like this any more. Eh. 2y
batsy @GingerAntics I know in critical readings and modern interpretations that monologue is often delivered with irony, but as words on the page it can be read literally and I had a hard time "reading" the irony, if that makes sense. All in all it did feel quite hollow. 2y
GingerAntics @batsy I know what you mean. The ending was very eh. The whole play just wasn‘t what I was expecting. The first act went so well, and then it was like 10 Things just did it‘s own (plausible and legal in the 20th century) thing from there. This made me love that movie way more. No idea what I was worried about. 2y
batsy @GingerAntics Yes, it started off well and then ended like it was a writing exercise ol' Will got tired of! 😂 I love 10 Things so much more now and need to watch it again soon 😁 2y
GingerAntics @batsy that is an absolutely perfect way of putting it!!! It‘s less a play than a writing exercise run amuck. lol 2y
saresmoore How could you not?! It was almost formative for me as I saw her as the snarky heroine role model I‘d always dreamed of. The foil to Anne & Meg & Elizabeth, who all seemed to have their ferocity dampened. I‘m wondering if I even read to the end of TotS when I was young. 🤔 2y
CarolynM I know what you mean about the final monologue. My take on it is she can say those things because she now trusts him not to act on them. It's not entirely satisfactory, but it helps.🙂 2y
CoffeeNBooks Um... I almost feel like I have no words here. 🤔 I just finished reading this and I completely agree with you @GingerAntics and @batsy. And whatever happened to Christopher Sly?! I love that Shakespeare included a play within a play in Hamlet, it made complete sense. It doesn't make sense here at all, unless I'm completely missing something! Thank you for hosting @merelybookish! Are there plans for the next play for #shakespearereadalong? 2y
GingerAntics @CoffeeNBooks oh I read about that, too. The play in a play was most of the play. The thing with Sly is in a pub where he‘s showing a newlywed man how to tame his wife. The rest of the play is this guy in the pub learning how to tame his wife through the play in front of him. 2y
GingerAntics @CoffeeNBooks last I heard it was Richard II. I hope it still is because I‘m gearing up already. lol 2y
CoffeeNBooks @GingerAntics Great- thanks! I want to make sure I get a copy of it in time! 2y
CoffeeNBooks @GingerAntics I thought Shakespeare would wrap up the whole thing a little better than he did. 😕 Definitely not my favorite Shakespeare play., but I'm glad I read it. 2y
GingerAntics @CoffeeNBooks we haven‘t talked about it since before we read TotS (and possibly the play before that), but that‘s what we decided at that point. Not sure if anything has changed. 2y
GingerAntics @CoffeeNBooks it does seem like he just stopped writing or like he was bored with it so tied everything in a bow and moved on. 2y
GingerAntics @readinginthedark @Jess_Read_This are we still doing Richard II next? 2y
batsy @CarolynM That's a good way of looking at it! I was intrigued at the point where 💩 was going down with Bianca and her suitors, P & K were like a team, observing the fun together. 2y
batsy @CoffeeNBooks @GingerAntics Yes, there was no conclusion to the Fry aspect and I'd forgotten all about him 😆 2y
GingerAntics @batsy apparently someone else did a version of this story, and had Sly as an active member of the audience and give a speech at the end, too. 2y
merelybookish My pleasure! I still have to finish the last act but am bracing for disappointment. I really wanted to believe Shakespeare would bring some sublety to it. Or subvert the male tames female storyline in some way. But I think I'm hoping for too much. 2y
merelybookish @CoffeeNBooks And WTH... No Sly at the end to frame things? 😯 2y
readinginthedark @CoffeeNBooks Sorrysorrysorry! The pregnancy nausea has me barely ever checking electronics right now. 😕 But I'm enjoying reading everyone's thoughts even if I'm not responding! And yes, Richard II next. It might not be immediately...unless @GingerAntics wants to host? Let me know! 2y
GingerAntics @readinginthedark lord woman, we need to keep you off the electronics then. I‘ll do it if you want me to. I‘m so excited out this one. 2y
CoffeeNBooks @readinginthedark Great- thanks! I'll go ahead and buy a copy of it. Hope you start feeling better soon! 2y
readinginthedark @GingerAntics 😆It's starting to get better, thank goodness. That would be awesome! I don'tactually know much about the histories. I'll do a preliminary post later today directing people to you as the host. Feel free to set the schedule whenever you want, and reach out to me via here, email, or Goodreads if you have any questions! 2y
GingerAntics @readinginthedark are you still in the first trimester at least, so it will be better soon-ish? 2y
batsy @readinginthedark That sucks about the nausea and I hope it eases soon. And hope all is well with you otherwise :) @GingerAntics I just placed an online order for Richard II; local bookshops don't seem to have it so I hope it arrives soon. The histories are the ones I know the least about so this should be interesting! 2y
GingerAntics @batsy R2 is not the most popular play, for some reason, so it is harder to find. I read about why it‘s not usually staged. When we were talking about doing a history play I looked them up and which order was recommended. Apparently their are three groups of the history plays (and then some tragedies that are also histories), and R2 kicks off one of the sets and all the rest in that set can‘t get over the first act of R2. (edited) 2y
readinginthedark @GingerAntics @batsy I have a couple of weeks left, but I'm learning how to manage it better. I didn't have this with my first, so it's been a little hurdle. Thanks! And could you email me that list of the recommended order? That would be great when we want to read more histories moving forward. readinginthedark1988 at outlook. 2y
batsy @GingerAntics Oh, that's interesting! I wasn't aware of that. I'm thinking I also need to get a giant compendium or overview of his plays as we read along... So much of it becomes interesting when considered in context of his other works and the time period 2y
GingerAntics @batsy I actually got that from an article about what order to read them in. lol I have a copy of Marchette Chute‘s Stories from Shakespeare for a quick overview before reading a new play. I usually read the retelling in prose by David Bruce along side the actual play, but lately I‘ve actually been reading those first and that‘s helped. The historical context I usually get from the intro info from the RSC/Modern Library edition of the plays. 2y
GingerAntics @batsy that can also come from articles, too, though. Sometimes it can be hard to find the historical context and that sort of thing, which is part of why I like those editions. They give you that info before the text of the play. I‘m a big history nerd, though. 2y
batsy @GingerAntics Yes, I particularly like the Signet editions because that's the one we used in college and it's got great supplementary info! And I should look up more articles online as I read the plays but there's something about having a giant tome next to me to browse through like I'm an archivist on a mission, lol 😂 2y
GingerAntics @batsy lol maybe a digital big tome? Those are probably easier to navigate and definitely easier to carry. 2y
Lcsmcat @readinginthedark Have you tried Sea-Bands? They worked wonders for me when I was pregnant. You can get them at scuba supply stores.. 2y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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I‘ve seen this one preformed before, and fully enjoyed the banter and comedy in it, reading it now though for the first time as an adult...well in the current age of ‘me too‘ and equality for all, it was a bit more disappointing, especially considering some of the bard‘s other writing.

I‘m looking forward to seeing what the group made of this ending next week. #ShakespeareReadAlong

GingerAntics I‘m sort of dreading the ending. 2y
merelybookish I think they play, more than any other, probably benefits.from being performed where irony and subversion can be incorporated. But as a read, it's tough to take! 2y
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merelybookish
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Time for the #Shakespearereadalong Act IV discussion. Liz pretty much sums up my feelings about this act. ? Or as Curtis says, "he is more shrew than she." Also, bully, ass, abuser. K is broken and it's hard to read. But beyond P's cruelty, it's a long act. A few things that stood out
1) We get secondhand accounts of both relationships. What do they offer?
2) We get a soliquey from P but still no access to K's inner thoughts. ?

merelybookish 3)Lots of discussion of clothes with haberdasher. Felt significant, connected to themes of disguise/ruses. 4) anyone else struggling to keep the identities of B's wooers straight? 🤷 5) is there anyway I'm not going to end this play pissed off? 🤪 2y
GingerAntics I fear there is no way to end this play not pissed, and I‘m still looking for a “B Wooer Master List”. (edited) 2y
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CoffeeNBooks I'm so glad I'm not the only one having a hard time keeping all of Bianca's wooers straight. I'm having a hard time remembering why they're all acting as different people, and I'm wondering how that's going to work out in the end. 2y
CoffeeNBooks Also, why is Petruchio still acting like such a jerk to Katherine? Especially when he finally gets her to say the sun is actually the moon like he says, but then he tells her she's a liar. What's his point? Why is he doing this? 2y
DeleteAcct This act was I guess difficult? I agree that I would like to know what's going on with Katherine, what is she really thinking about all this. @CoffeeNBooks I can't remember why they're acting as different people either. 😂 P is annoying but I'm guessing he has a plan? But I'm feeling bad for Katherine shrew or otherwise. 2y
batsy I'm also struggling with keeping all the disguised men straight & it's stressing me out ? @CoffeeNBooks I guess this is P's way of "breaking" the "shrew" in Kate & unmasking her sweet wifeliness? ? It's pissing me off too & I can't imagine how Act 5 would make me less pissed off? Like, I can't imagine how P can be redeemed unless we're meant to see his tactics as roguish or charming ? 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Sadly there is no way to end this play un-pissed-off through modern eyes, the banter is great, but it‘s all about breaking a Shrew (ie an independent and strong minded woman) to be the dulcet and fawning yes-woman that all servents (and in her case chattel) were supposed to be. Plus P will get kudos for being the better man and being able to do what her father and others weren‘t MEN enough to do. B, is the role model of what woman should be.... 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...hence all the fawners and admirers. 2y
Lcsmcat @Riveted_Reader_Melissa But B ISN‘T dulcet and fawning. She‘s manipulative. And I think K isn‘t so much strong-minded as rude. P is giving her a taste of her own medicine. Don‘t forget she tied up her sister, broke a lure over her teacher‘s head, etc. 2y
Lcsmcat I still want to know if/when Sly will come back into it. 2y
GingerAntics @CoffeeNBooks P is really starting to get on my nerves. She gives him what he wants, then he turns around and says she‘s lying. What‘s up with that? I was wondering why B‘s wooers were pretending to be other people, too. Some of them are even pretending to be each other? What‘s up with this? This play is weird in that respect. 2y
GingerAntics @Riveted_Reader_Melissa good point...there is no way around being pissed off. So frustrating. @batsy I can imagine anyone seeing P‘s behaviour as charming. I‘d like to meet this person and try to understand their POV here. 2y
GingerAntics Has anyone else found the play within a play? @Lcsmcat I agree that B is manipulative. Is K rude because she can be, or is she rude because she‘s sick of people trying to “tame” her. Too much of anything like that can make anyone chuck it all and come off rude. For me, there is something other than rudeness underneath K‘s actions. B just seems to like playing these guys off of each other. 2y
Lcsmcat @GingerAntics Is there any indication of anyone trying to tame K before P? I don‘t remember it if it‘s there. So other than sibling rivalry, which most kids outgrow before they‘re old enough to marry 😀 I don‘t get K‘s rudeness before P. I‘m not saying P is delightful, I just don‘t see K as some feminist role model. 2y
GingerAntics @Lcsmcat certainly not for our time, no, but I would imagine in her own time other women probably looked to her and thought maybe they should be more like her with annoying men. There isn‘t any record given, but her “reputation” sort of precedes her. The definition of Shrew could be taken as rude or as a woman who refuses to accept “her proper place.” 2y
readinginthedark @GingerAntics @batsy @Rachbb3 @CoffeeNBooks @merelybookish They started out disguised in order to be closer to Bianca and actually woo her. I guess they're just continuing that until almost the end, in classic Shakespeare style. 2y
readinginthedark @Lcsmcat I'm also not a huge fan of Kat. I feel bad for her, but I also think she takes it too far. And I think if she hadn't treated B the way she did, her father might have given her more say in who she married. 🤷‍♀️ But maybe she was hoping to avoid marriage, in which case Petruchio just outsmarted her. 2y
merelybookish @Lcsmcat I get that K is no paragon of virtue but I do find P's methods cruel. No food, no sleep is a form of torture. (Admittedly I do love both a lot!) And the whole up is down, down is up stuff would drive a person mad. It surprised me how much it bothered me to read. 2y
merelybookish @batsy Roguish and charming it is methinks. 😒 2y
batsy @merelybookish Yes, and a far cry of the Heath Ledger variety in 10 Things 😬 2y
Jess_Read_This I am so sorry- I‘m such a straggler but will be up to form by Saturday!! 2y
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Here is some of my July TBR list.... the top 2 are ongoing buddy reads, then 1 from the library, 2 new releases, and 1 Chunkster I‘m looking forward to reading with the Litsy group later this month. This is just the ebook pile, not the physical or audiobooks, somehow I got behind in June and I need to use this month very wisely and try to get myself back on track. 😱 #JulyTBR

Ashley_Nicoletto The Stand is my favorite book. 😍 2y
JazzFeathers I hear you 😱 2y
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#Shakespearereadalong Act III recap with Dick sporting Petruchio's ridiculous wedding outfit and Liz/Kate looking gorgeous, of course.
Two scenes this time, two forms of romance.
Is there more to Bianca than originally thought? Is she having fun with her wooers?
What IS up with Petruchio's behaviour? Is there a method to his madness?
Is there any hope for Kate? She seemed somewhat resigned to her fate.
And what has become of Christopher Sly?

DeleteAcct I thought Kate would have put up more of a fight. The whole wedding was bizarre. I don't know what is going on with Petruchio's clothes! ? I love when Bianca said, "That, being mad herself, she's madly mated." 2y
GingerAntics I‘m still trying to figure out what on Earth was up with P after the wedding/when they got home. He must leave now, as soon as the wedding is over and doesn‘t necessarily take K with him? Then they get home and P is a total jerk to everyone, including her? Then he goes into full on torture mode with no sleep, no food. WTF 2y
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GingerAntics @Rachbb3 I liked that part, too. I‘m pretty sure she‘s going to be a whole other kind of mad coming up very shortly here. 2y
merelybookish @Rachbb3 Yes, and something about him being Kated! (Shakespeare has had lots of fun playing with the name Kate in this play!) I feel Petruchio is making fun of someone/something -- I'm just not sure who/what is the butt of his joking. 2y
DeleteAcct I guess Christopher Sly is just sitting back watching this all unfold? Lol. He's probably thinking everyone's gone mad. 2y
merelybookish @GingerAntics I know! It's like he is trying to completely disorient her. And everyone else. I keep hoping he's doing it for a good reason. 2y
merelybookish @Rachbb3 I keep waiting for him to start or end a scene. To remind us that this is all a story-within-a-story. 2y
GingerAntics @merelybookish I thought his comment about “this is how you tame a shrew” was explanation enough. I‘m honestly hoping she flips on him, and maybe even his dead because a great little punchline in here somewhere. It‘s like he‘s gone off his rocker. 2y
DeleteAcct @GingerAntics @merelybookish I'm definitely interested to see what P does next. 2y
GingerAntics @merelybookish @Rachbb3 I‘m still waiting for this play in a play to present itself. That certainly hasn‘t been clear, thus far. It will be interesting to see where this start/stop point comes in. 2y
batsy Yes, worst. wedding. ever. Definitely agree it was bizarre and funnily enough I don't remember this Act much at all from when I first read it. I too think P is making "a point" or skewering some aspect of this situation... Or at least I hope so! Definitely a long passage was devoted to the condition of his horse ??? 2y
Lcsmcat @GingerAntics Yes, me too. I didn‘t remember that part from having read it before and am wondering if it comes back in the epilogue at least. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I have to agree with all of thee above, this wedding was just bananas, and sadly I think Kate is the butt of the joke....they would literally marry her to anyone to be rid of her, even a completely insane person so long as he weds her and takes her out of their hair they could care less what he‘s like and what her future is with him. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Petruchio, I think, is making a point to everyone, Kate they will give you away and send you off with anyone, so you have no one on your side here. What better way to put a wedge between her and any family she thought might help her...she‘s said no, called him crazy, he‘s now proven himself to be so in front of the whole town, and still they could not care less, and marry them anyway...and party after they‘ve left. Not worried about her in the... 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...least. If she had any hope of friends or family caring for her, he‘s effectively severed that...even her Sister writers her off immediately as she‘s mad, she mated madly, oh well, let‘s go eat. It reminded me of the red flags of bad relationships... completely separate them from any loved ones or support network, make them completely reliant on you and you alone. 2y
TheBookHippie I can't believe she didn't put up a huge fight you forget women are just property to be had I agree with alll above weirdest wedding ever and mockery of Kate and trying to tame her...it's just all bananas good reading though I am fascinated by the plot ... 2y
GingerAntics @Riveted_Reader_Melissa absolutely. The mad one is P. I‘m serious I hope she goes crazy on him and beats him up at the very least. A death as a punchline would be dark, but fitting for him. 2y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I agree. I‘m quite enjoying this one. I was afraid it would mess with my love of 10 Things so I considered skipping it, but I am so glad I didn‘t. 2y
CoffeeNBooks I'm enjoying reading everyone's thoughts about this act! I'm curious about why Petruchio showed up looking the way he did, and I'm interested to see how all this plays out. 2y
TheBookHippie @CoffeeNBooks He reminds me of boys and mind games 🤦🏽‍♀️🤪🙄he has a game... 2y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I was worried too!!!!! 2y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie still worried? 2y
merelybookish @batsy Yes LOTS of 🏇. I guess it's one thing to show up in silly clothes, quite another to have a beat-up horse! 2y
merelybookish @Lcsmcat I assume it has to come back. And I'm wondering if Sly might not get the last laugh. 2y
merelybookish @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I can completely see this, how they want to get rid of her so badly they will put up with anything. Still...I just can't give up yet that there is something to what P is doing. Because the alternative is too depressing. Plus, I feel like Shakespeare likes his character Kate too much to leave her to an ugly fate. 2y
merelybookish @GingerAntics @TheBookHippie So glad you're not regretting reading thus far! 2y
merelybookish @CoffeeNBooks I know! Where does it go now the wedding is over?! 🤷 2y
merelybookish @gingerantics What is the 10 Things equivalent to this act? Heath singing on the bleachers? Does Kat in the movie get "forced" into anything? 2y
GingerAntics @merelybookish she doesn‘t really get forced into anything...maybe going to prom, but by the end of the bleacher concert, getting him out of detention, and paintball she wants to go so it‘s not really forced. Hm. It‘s hard to say if there is an equivalent. 2y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics nah 😂🙄🤣 2y
GingerAntics @merelybookish yeah, I‘m going with @TheBookHippie. I don‘t think she‘s forced to do anything. Kat in 10 Things is not the type of girl who does anything she doesn‘t want to do. 2y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics Kat is my favorite ❤️ 2y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie oh yeah - I want to be more like Kat most days. lol 2y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I am most days thus trouble ensues ... 2y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie really? I feel like I just need to stand up for myself more and not take shite unnecessarily. 2y
Erin7 @CoffeeNBooks I wonder the same thing. I really enjoyed the original banter between Kate and Petruchio. It was raunchy though which keeps surprising me about Shakespeare‘s plays. I love the little comedic parts too like when Biondello tries to explain that Petruchio is on his way to Baptista. 2y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I stand up for others and myself and people listen they just hate me 😂🤣(not my friends)I don't live in a feminist friendly place 🙄🤦🏽‍♀️🤬 2y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie neither do I. I guess I hadn‘t thought of it that way. Still, the people I give a crap about would be proud of me, so I‘ll let the morons be anti-women amongst themselves. I don‘t plan to be here for too long. 2y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics it wears on you for sure I just keep telling myself that's their issue ...gets old ugh. 2y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie it probably does. It gets hard to take people‘s BS. I take enough of it already to know that. Not sure when it became appropriate to follow a woman down the street for three blocks to ask if they know Jesus. At this point, I almost feel like my only prayer is to annoy them as much as possible. lol 2y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I tell them I have a relationship with Jesus not a crazy religion and then they're speechless because they have no reply. People are supposed to see Jesus in you and ask you about it, not the other way around. I've told them that too. I tell them I'm a Jesus Feminist usually cures them from talking at me. Oye. 2y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I actually started that book, never thought of saying that. Part of me wants to say something really snarky like claiming to be a Satan worshiper or “don‘t make me call my wife, she‘s a cop.” lol Usually I just tell them yes and walk away. So glad I‘m not the only person who finds this inappropriate. 2y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics ohhhh yes I've done that ..terrible of me but I laughed for days...shock on the persons face "you go to church" and I said "only to worship the devil" ????? 2y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 😂😂😂 that is the best!!! Why is walking down the street with a sign saying “I was addicted to porn, but not I have Jesus” a sane thing to do? I always want to rattle them when they decide they need to follow me. What part of the bible suggests stalking people? My bible must be missing that part. 2y
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Shakespeare and swim lessons.
#shakespearereadalong

AshleyHoss820 This is one of my favorites! 😊 2y
Cathythoughts Weather looks glorious there 2y
merelybookish @AshleyHoss820 I'm re-reading for first time in a while. I like the verbal sparring but am iffy on the sexism. 🙂 2y
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merelybookish @Cathythoughts yes, lots of ☀️☀️☀️But supposed to be 101 today. 🤤 2y
Cathythoughts Oh ! That‘s about 37 Celsius . Unknown of heat here ! It‘s 26 Celsius here today - I‘m baked alive ☀️🤤 (edited) 2y
Cathythoughts We are having a heat wave 🌊☀️☀️ 2y
AshleyHoss820 @merelybookish Considering the time in which it was written, it‘s not too bad! 😄🤣 I like the fact that outwardly, they show off the societal standard but within their marriage they are happy and treat each other as equals. That‘s pretty progressive for the 1500‘s! 😄 Enjoy your re-read and that gorgeous weather! I‘m jealous! I think I‘ll have to re-read that one today! 2y
merelybookish @Cathythoughts I don't love heat so find summer weather hard. I grew up in a foggy town by the Atlantic ocean where 20 degrees Celsius was hot! 😛 2y
merelybookish @AshleyHoss820 I'm only on Act III so things have been quite worked out yet. As yet Petruchio is a nutter and I feel bad for Kate. 😜 2y
AshleyHoss820 @merelybookish Someone being a nutter is my favorite insult! 😂😂😂 Have you seen 10 Things I Hate About You? 2y
merelybookish @AshleyHoss820 Oh yes! Lots of discussion amongst the #shakespearereadlong folks about how the play lives up to the movie. 2y
AshleyHoss820 @merelybookish Oh, awesome!! I love that flick! 😄 2y
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Time for #shakespearereadalong discussion of Act II, hosted by Bianca and her suitors.
Recap: Katherina is mean to her sister. Petruchio and Katherina meet, spar, and get engaged (without K's consent), and then the suitors bid for Bianca.
Thoughts: Why is K so mean to her sister? The verbal sparring between P and K is fun to read but also feel like K is screwed. No one cares what she wants. The ending shows how marriage is all about the 💰💰

Lcsmcat K is mean to B because B is so clearly daddy‘s favorite. But it‘s a scene my daughters used to do and they LOVED playing it. 😀 2y
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DeleteAcct I agree with @Lcsmcat K is jealous of B. Act 2 was fun to read, I laughed at the back and forth banter. I was surprised at the end though when the "marriage" was on and lady did not say yes. Never reading this one before I'm interested to see how it plays out. 2y
GingerAntics I‘m trying to figure out how it‘s possible for anyone to get engaged without the other person agreeing to it; although, I suppose that is a very presentist view of proceedings. That was actually quite common until recent times (and far less distant in history that a lot of people are comfortable with). Hell, in some cultures this is totally acceptable. It‘s all just a business deal and he woman‘s opinion/feelings on the matter don‘t count. 2y
GingerAntics I think my reading is still very much coloured by 10 Things. I didn‘t really see K as jealous at all. I saw K as more independent than B, with K fighting against the constraints her father (and ultimately society) put on her, while B just likes being adored. 2y
BookishBelle I was thoroughly amused by the verbal sparing between P and K and also by how Bianca speaks to her tutors and suitors in this Act. I expected her to be more of a pushover. I, too think K is jealous of B but I also see how she is fighting against her father‘s and society‘s role for her. Though, it doesn‘t seem to have helped her not be engaged when she doesn‘t want to be. Oh my! 2y
TheBookHippie I love all the interaction between K and anyone 😂🙌🏻 as for marriage women were property they were purchased with goats for marriage in some places just sick 😭🤢🤮🤬😡 2y
batsy Agree with all comments here; I think a lot of K's rage & jealousy comes from the fact that she knows she comes second for her father & also in society, because she doesn't adhere to the feminine norms. I honestly love how she just yells at everyone ? Also, Petruchio seems to be doing "reverse negging" in his interactions with her and I'm about ready for K to smack him one more time. 2y
CoffeeNBooks I thought the conversation between Katherine and Petruchio was quite amusing as well! I was surprised that she didn't have more to say when he announced they were getting married, though. And that Petruchio was completely unaltered in his determination by Katherine's response. 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics Same- I didn‘t pick up on the jealousy aspect either. I tend to think that K is more independent, intelligent, and fighting against society constraints bc of that intelligence/independence. I think she finds B irritating bc of her simple desire to be adored and lack of effort to try to be more or want more... again colored by 10 Things probably lol 2y
Jess_Read_This I‘m not home, so can‘t reference my book, but was the dialogue on K‘s physical appearance genuine or mocking? It‘s mentioned she has a limp, is ugly,her state of mind is questioned (which I think that‘s bc she‘s so outspoken for the time), etc. so I was wondering if she‘s also treated poorly and inferiority bc she is a woman and has a disability. She had to develop self preservation in her time period bc she wasn‘t getting help from others. (edited) 2y
Jess_Read_This But I did cringe when she got physical and provoked w B so suddenly. 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This or is it just a different interpretation? The more I read, I keep looking for the hints of jealousy, but I can‘t find anything solid and undeniable. Siblings fight for a lot of reasons and always have. I wouldn‘t put it past old Shakes to drop in a feminist. lol 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics I haven‘t been able to find anything either that leads me towards jealousy. As the oldest of four... I can attest that siblings fight for lots of reasons...😂😂 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This so you can easily read “my younger sister is so annoying why does everyone fawn over her like that ew” from the play. lol 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics 🤔 It may hit close to home a bit....lol 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics It really is striking how people as a whole don‘t change too much over the ages. Shakes has captured a sibling dynamic that plays out repeatedly. (edited) 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This I‘m an only child, so if I‘m picking up the sibling dynamic, he‘s definitely hit on the human condition of sibling rivalry quite well. lol 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics I will say, I never hit my sister as much as K does though. That kind of surprised me in the play. 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This there was a rather violent exchange. It seems like that‘s more of a toddler sibling thing, but here they‘re grown ups. That is a bit scary, but I suppose it‘s all for dramatic effect. 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This I had a thought. What if it‘s not sibling rivalry OR jealousy, but that one character (B) is the “ideal” or the woman who goes along with convention and plays her role as a woman in society appropriately, and the other character (K) is pushing against that and doing her own thing, perhaps showing the ridiculousness of some of things men do to women. 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics Ohhhh... I like that! And that just makes me wonder a bit more about Shakespeare now as a writer! If this is the case, he was rather progressive in showing the ridiculousness of the time period. The rushed marriage would highlight that point, I think! To throw some conspiracy in....some folks think Elizabeth I was really the writer behind the plays... 🤔 I‘ve been intrigued though too w how K is described- ugly and w a limp. 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics Is her physical appearance truth or mean spirited chatter amongst the men 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This exactly!!! It changes the whole tone of the play. He did social commentary in other plays in a similar way, sort of a character that played by the rules and then another character that didn‘t as a way to say “what if people were more like this or allowed to be more themselves like this?” 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This I do love all the little theories people come up with about who Shakespeare “really” was. It‘s interesting. I think it‘s right up there with “a bored royal was Jack the Ripper.” It just makes for interesting and lively conversation. lol 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics A whole new depth just got added to the play for me when I consider the commentary along those lines. Ugh- to be a fly on the theater wall to see if the audiences picked up on that! Or even what their reactions were to this play. I‘ve been thinking about that too while reading. It‘s so different and also harsher in dialogue than the other ones I‘ve read. I keep wondering what the reaction was to this play 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This I was wondering that myself. I‘ve gone and looked at photos/videos and read accounts from various productions, and I‘ve never seen anyone play her with a limp. lol 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics Yes!! I love a good conspiracy theory and will always be entertained by the “what if” factor. I have wondered at his education level and knowledge of history to create some of his characters. 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This I would LOVE to have been in the theatre when these were first played. This play, several others. I totally agree with this notion. It‘s probably why I loved that episode of Doctor Who so much. lol 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics I read one article where an actress did play her with a limp. It was a 2008 play in Stratford, Ontario. http://dsq-sds.org/article/view/996/1180 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This he used a lot of Hollinshed for history histories and even some other plays. It would have been a fairly easy to acquire and popular volume at the time. He was afforded an education because of his father‘s position. (I may have seen a documentary lol) 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This oh, now that is interesting. Hm. That definitely changes the play a bit. If it‘s real, then it plays into the time that she wouldn‘t make a good wife because how could she serve the family. It could also lend some explanation to why she‘s kind of mean. She‘s giving what she gets. Hm. 2y
merelybookish @Lcsmcat That's funny your girls liked getting a chance to slap each other. All in the name of Art! 😂 2y
merelybookish @Rachbb3 Yes, the pacing is different. We're used to waiting five acts for lovers to come together. This time it's all happening between strangers in two. So what happens at the end? 2y
merelybookish @GingerAntics Right! Bianca in 10 Things is the conventional high school popular girl. Likes clothes, wants to go to prom, etc. Not very ambitious beyond that. 2y
merelybookish @BookishBelle K. is definitely being punished for not complying! 2y
merelybookish @TheBookHippie K is a fun character for sure! Let's hope her spirit doesn't get broken. 2y
merelybookish @batsy It's hard to know what Petruchio is up to. Is he being a dick? Is he making a farce out of all of it. Is he making fun of something? I keep wanting to see something redeeming about him... So I don't have to feel resentful when K ends up stuck with him 2y
Lcsmcat @GingerAntics I‘ve never seen her played with a limp either, but there definitely seems to be a sense of Bianca as what‘s expected of women and Katerina as frustrated intelligence. 2y
merelybookish @CoffeeNBooks Petruchio doesn't seem to care AT ALL what K says. It's just a chance to twist her words, no matter what she says. 2y
Lcsmcat @merelybookish They get along great (and always have) but when you‘re in middle school that kind of drama is fun. 😀 2y
merelybookish @Jess_Read_This I need to look at this too. Its hard to think any character played by Elizabeth Taylor is unattractive. So maybe emphisizing how women's beauty is tied to a submissive nature? 2y
merelybookish @Jess_Read_This Me too! Slapping Bianca seemed pretty harsh! 2y
batsy @Jess_Read_This Oh, that's interesting! I wasn't aware and might have missed other descriptions but I remember Hortensio describing her to Petruchio as "With wealth enough and young and beauteous"; her only problem being "an intolerable curst". Then when Petruchio is false wooing her, he asks her to walk and declares that she does not "halt"... But is he lying to her to fake-woo her? I'm not sure how to read that aspect of her limp. 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This @Lcsmcat I just went back and double checked. The only reference to K having a limp and Petruchio saying he doesn‘t know why people say she limps, because she walks beautifully. It really was just used to insult her. She doesn‘t really limp. I just read an article that said there is no reason to play K with a limp because Shakes didn‘t give her a limp. It makes that chick in Canada even more interesting. lol 2y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics Interesting that we read it differently! I read it as if she does have a limp and Petruchio draws attention to it but as part of their repartee he‘s saying he barely notices it! Kind of like denying something is noticeable when it really is when someone asks? 2y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This I saw it both ways, but then I read an article about it that was saying when Shakespeare does that there is usually something that hints that the person isn‘t being genuine, especially since it‘s a comedy. Apparently there is no reason to believe she actually had a limp. I don‘t know why I was so curious about it yesterday. 2y
Bookishgal71 I think the limp was meant as an insult. He is trying to break her down by insulting what he sees as her greatest strength-her looks. Really, her greatest strength is her strong character! (edited) 2y
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I‘ll be on the road much of tomorrow, on my way to the beach (yay!) but I‘ll chime in whenever I have cell service or WiFi. #shakespearereadalong

merelybookish I'm on vacation too! Enjoy the beach. We'll look forward to hearing from you when you can post. 🙂 2y
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💋”And kiss me Kate, we will be married a‘Sunday” 💋

I loved the word battle in Act Two! Of course in whirlwind Shakespearean fashion....we now have a wedding. I was surprised when Baptista told Petruchio he first needs Kate‘s love before he can marry her. Their battle of the wits ensues and bam! schedule the wedding?

So far I‘m enjoying the play but have a few questions and thoughts I can‘t wait to discuss w the group! #ShakespeareReadAlong

hwheaties Ahhh this play. I wrote a paper about it for my Shakespeare class in my MA. Definitely not my favorite. 2y
Jess_Read_This @heatheryreads I bet your paper was quite interesting! I can see why it isn‘t a fan favorite for people; I‘ve been intrigued reading so far mainly in part bc there seems to be some backstory with Kate that I‘m trying to piece together or imagine. 2y
merelybookish I need to catch up before Saturday. But yes, it does seem early in the play for a wedding! 2y
hwheaties @Jess_Read_This true about the backstory. much of the criticism though comes from Petruchio‘s treatment of Kate. Indicative of the times though it was, it seems especially harsh and (as I argue in my essay) mentally and verbally abusive to contemporary readers. 2y
Jess_Read_This @heatheryreads Yes!! I haven‘t read a lot of Shakespeare yet; but this one does seem harsher and like you said abusive more than the other plays I‘ve read. 2y
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#bookandlunch #lunchtimereading #shakespearereadalong

I‘m just getting started on this play. I‘ve never read it before though I LOVE the modern adaptation ‘10 Things I Hate About You‘!! I haven‘t seen it in awhile. Maybe time to rewatch!

Jess_Read_This I think there are a few of us planning on rewatching that movie! 2y
BookishBelle Alright! @Jess_Read_This It‘s such a good one! 2y
merelybookish I saw another group is planning a Litsy watchalong. Maybe we could organize something like that! 2y
BookishBelle That‘s a great idea @merelybookish !! That would be so fun! 2y
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#Shakespearereadalong Act I discussion with Liz and Dick.
Thoughts on the Induction, our framing narrative? A good jest or did you feel bad for Christopher Sly? How does it affect your perception of the play within the play?
Act I: lots of men talking mostly about women. We get more role switching. Kat gets a few lines of dialogue. Bianca even fewer. Petruchio shows up. Is there anything to distinguish him from the other men? Anyone annoyed yet?

GingerAntics I guess in a way I‘m annoyed with all the men planning out the women‘s lives like they have no opinion on the matter, but that‘s also pretty standard for this period (and still oddly common in some parts of the western world today). I‘m not sure if it‘s the play itself I‘m annoyed at or some of the men around me I‘m annoyed at and this is just reminding me. 2y
DeleteAcct I'm don't know how I feel yet. Even though Christopher Sly is no prize I do feel a little for what they're doing to him. I laughed out loud when he decided to go along with it. @GingerAntics It is annoying how these men are planning these women's lives. What I would like to see happen in the end is Bianca choosing none of them (if she has a choice). Katherine? Not sure yet about her. Lol. 2y
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GingerAntics @Rachbb3 if the movie is any indication, she picks one of them. I guess it would be Lucentio, since he‘s the one who said “I burn, I pine, I perish” and that‘s the character in the movie that gets Bianca in the end. 2y
TheBookHippie 🤣🤣🤣🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻I so agreee😳🤦🏽‍♀️the men 🙄 ugh ....the news isn't helping either just ugh 2y
CoffeeNBooks I feel bad for Christopher Sly. The rest of it seems fairly common for the time period... younger daughter can't get married until oldest daughter does, etc. But, I'm curious to see where it all goes, and how different it might be from the movie. 2y
Lcsmcat I read this years ago and had forgotten about the play-within-a-play aspect. I think that has to change the perception of the misogyny. It‘s not Shakespeare putting those ideas forward, it‘s the aristocrat who‘s messing with Sly. It changed the way I look at it. (edited) 2y
merelybookish @Lcsmcat I also forgot about the frame and it also.affects how I read the story of Petruchio and Kat. It creates more distance, places it all under a question mark. 2y
merelybookish @CoffeeNBooks I felt bad.for him too but wonder if he will come out on top in the end? Perhaps will get the last laugh? 2y
merelybookish @Rachbb3 I don't know that Shakespeare plays ever end with a single attractive woman on her own. 🤔 2y
batsy I completely forgot about Sly and the play-within-the-play framing, too! Good point @Lcsmcat, it does make it seem like the misogyny is thus heightened to an excessive point, a farce, and the framing contextualises it... 2y
batsy As always with Shakespeare it feels both archaic and incredibly fresh/relevant, as when Petruchio tells Hortensio, "Hortensio, peace. Thou know'st not gold's effect" like he's some early modern Kanye West. 2y
merelybookish @GingerAntics I was struck too by the sheer number of men in Act I. All in love with Bianca, all carping on Kat. I'm hoping Petruchio proves to have something more than the others. Like Heath. 😉 2y
merelybookish @batsy Nicely put! 2y
GingerAntics @merelybookish Heath wanted Kat though...well, sort of. There were a lot of men in act 1 and very little of Bianca or Kat. It was weird. All these men talking and conspiring. I thought two guys wanting Bianca in the movie was a bit much, but they really toned it down from the play. Sheesh, what were there, 4 or 5? They were all just head over heels for Bianca (or so they claimed). 2y
Bookishgal71 I almost feel like I have to take notes to keep up with all of the men. So far, so good. I‘m a Shakespeare fan, though, and a middle school licensed English teacher, so I might be a tad biased. Enjoying it so far! @merelybookish (edited) 2y
Jess_Read_This I don‘t know how I quite feel yet... I know I feel *mildly* bad for Sly. He is no prize after talking to the bar maid the way he did. But I did have to laugh at the scene because it‘s just such a timeless drunk scene! I was having a bit of a rough time keeping all the men straight! I love the concept of a play within a play. I was struck by the class distinction that Shakespeare seems to be setting up. Cont below comment 2y
Jess_Read_This The duke playing such an elaborate trick on Sly as a lark really shows the carefree, idle boredom in the wealthy elite at the time. A farce for sure but it made me pause to wonder if Shakespeare was trying to say something right off the bat about titled wealthy population of the time 2y
merelybookish @Jess_Read_This Good point about class distinctions. It seems to come up again with ? & ? (Sorry at the pool and can't remember anyone's name 🙁) switching roles so the servant acts as the student while the student can pretend to be a tutor. It calls into question what it means/requires to be noble. 2y
merelybookish @Bookishgal71 Maybe some of the men will fade away. Or they are so interchangable it won't matter who is who. 🤷 But I'm glad you're enjoying so far! 2y
TheBookHippie I'm catching up!!!!! Oye. Life. 2y
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All set to re-read the tagged play for the #shakespearereadalong.
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merelybookish Shakespeare by doughnut. I love it! 😂 2y
batsy "Begone, stale cruller!" ? 2y
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Our #shakespearereadalong of Taming of the Shrew kicks off this week! Everyone welcome!
Please share your thoughts of Shakespeare's version of ye age old battle of the sexes. And be sure to tag me in your posts. Let's meet back here Saturday to discuss The Induction and Act I.

GingerAntics Deep breath. Fingers crossed. Here we go. lol 2y
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CarlyQuinn This was one of his works that made me a bit disappointed. Not a great portrayal of women, in my opinion. 2y
Lcsmcat An interesting look at various theories regarding the male-female relationships in Shrew: http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/402/habitus-in-shakespeares-taming-of-t... 2y
readinginthedark Thanks @Lcsmcat ! Interesting reading! 2y
merelybookish @GingerAntics We can do it! 😎💪 2y
merelybookish @CarlyQuinn Yes. It is divisive! I do find it fun that it's a play within a play. Id like to think Shakespeare is playing with his message a bit. 2y
merelybookish @Lcsmcat Thanks for the great links! Will read a bit more of the play and then read these. 2y
batsy Yay! I remember being angry when I read it the first time so I'm curious to see how I'll react now 🧐 And thanks for the links @Lcsmcat , I love me some supplementary readings 🤓 2y
GingerAntics @batsy what made you angry about it? @merelybookish I‘m still nervous it‘s going to make me hate 10 Things I Hate About You. lol 2y
batsy @GingerAntics It was the sexism/misogyny, even though I also found it an intriguing take on the "gender wars". It'll be interesting to see if I find it less aggravating in that sense on this reread (the first and only time I read it was in college) 2y
GingerAntics @batsy I have blissfully ignored it since 1998 when I was first introduced to Shakespeare. 2y
batsy @GingerAntics 😆 I look forward to seeing what you think! 2y
merelybookish @GingerAntics Oh, I hope it won't ruin the movie for you! Maybe it will make you appreciate it more, how they were able to adapt the material successfully! 2y
merelybookish @batsy I read this in college too and have zippo memory of my reaction to it. My professor was a feminist scholar and still . . . Got nothing. 🤷 2y
GingerAntics @merelybookish that‘s my hope, too. 2y
Jess_Read_This Finishing Act One today.. and I keep having scenes from 10 Things I Hate About You running through my head while reading. 2y
merelybookish @Jess_Read_This I don't think you're alone! It really did a good job of adapting the play. 2y
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rabbitprincess I have Much Ado About Nothing in that edition! My copy is annotated with my dad's teenage doodles 😂 2y
ReadZenRites Oh how fun to have your dad‘s doodles @rabbitprincess 😁🌸💕 2y
rabbitprincess @ReadZenRites He was heavily influenced by Don Martin of MAD Magazine fame 😂 2y
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ReadZenRites Oh I loved MAD....way back when...😁 Combine that with Shakespeare, and those could be some epic doodles! 😆 @rabbitprincess (edited) 2y
readinginthedark I‘ll post when I have one in hand! 2y
Jess_Read_This I‘ve been snooping at everyone else‘s editions. I was hoping to find a neat copy at the used bookstores we stopped at while on vacation... but not a single copy of TotS! I‘m so glad we have some time to get our copies before the discussion start date. I‘ll post mine when I get it! 2y
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I prefer the adaptation of this..."10 things i hate about you" :/