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The Fountains of Silence
The Fountains of Silence | Ruta Sepetys
From the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Salt to the Sea and Between Shades of Gray comes a gripping, extraordinary portrait of love, silence, and secrets under a Spanish dictatorship. Madrid, 1957. Under the fascist dictatorship of General Francisco Franco, Spain is hiding a dark secret. Meanwhile, tourists and foreign businessmen flood into Spain under the welcoming guise of sunshine and wine. Among them is eighteen-year-old Daniel Matheson, the son of an oil tycoon, who arrives in Madrid with his parents hoping to connect with the country of his mother's birth through the lens of his camera. Photography--and fate--introduce him to Ana, whose family's interweaving obstacles reveal the lingering grasp of the Spanish Civil War--as well as chilling definitions of fortune and fear. Daniel's photographs leave him with uncomfortable questions amidst shadows of danger. He is backed into a corner of decisions to protect those he loves. Lives and hearts collide, revealing an incredibly dark side to the sunny Spanish city. Master storyteller Ruta Sepetys once again shines light into one of history's darkest corners in this epic, heart-wrenching novel about identity, unforgettable love, repercussions of war, and the hidden violence of silence--inspired by the true postwar struggles of Spain. Includes vintage media interstitials, oral history commentary, photos, and more.
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TheSpineView
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Eggs Great book👏🏻👏🏻 1w
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I love this cover!! Haven‘t gotten to it yet!! 😂 1w
TheSpineView @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Same here. The book is just sitting on top of a TBR stack! 1w
TheSpineView @Eggs I hope to read it soon. 1w
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Amie
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This was longer than it needed to be and had too many POVs for my taste, but it was still good. After reading this, I realize that I know next to nothing Spain's history and need to learn more.

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Valentines‘s date ♥️ with my honey at one of my favorite date spots. The tagged book was $5 with cafe purchase! Win-win! #barnesandnoble #caramellatte #blueberrymuffin

EvieBee You‘re kidding?! What a steal. 5mo
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Awesome ❤️ 5mo
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wanderinglynn
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Mehso-so

Mixed feelings. I liked the setting & learning more about Spain during Franco‘s rule. I didn‘t care for the multiple POVs or the ridiculously short chapters. Each chapter was a different POV & since most chapters were max 2 pages, it was hard to connect with the characters in this character-driven story.

This was my January #roll100 roll 1 book
#pantone2022
#roaringwolf hearts & flowers

Yuki_Onna What a perfect colour match! 😍 5mo
wanderinglynn @Yuki_Onna I thought so! ☺️💛 5mo
ChaoticMissAdventures This is good to know. This has been on my list but I absolutely hate super short chapters, and each switching pov? Would be too hard to really get into the story. 5mo
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PuddleJumper That's great! 5mo
wanderinglynn @ChaoticMissAdventures it wasn‘t too hard to get into the story because all the POVs are interconnected. But it was hard to connect to any one character because the chapters were so short. There‘s like 143 chapters in only 434 pages. 5mo
RenePenn This may be a good “bedside” book for me. I love short chapter books for when I lay down at night. I‘m usually tired and don‘t read many pages after I get in the bed, but hate to leave off mid-chapter. 5mo
Roary47 I was on the fence if I should read this one. I like short chapters, but not a fan of lots of characters. I‘m glad they do interconnect maybe I will try to give it a chance. 😊💛 5mo
wanderinglynn @RenePenn then this would be a great book for you. 👍🏻 And the story is interesting. 5mo
wanderinglynn @Roary47 the story is interesting & I did learn things about Spain under Franco. 5mo
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#wondrouswednesday

1. All of them! 😆

2. No. I‘m on a self-imposed book-buying ban, so no buying any new books until I get my TBR bookcase to 20. Only 192 to go! 🎉

3. (1) Tagged, (2) Waiting for a Scot Like You, & (3) The Agony & the Ecstasy

Eggs Love #2! 192 to go! 5mo
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A 3-for-1 post. And proof that I really do have a TBR bookcase. 😆

1️⃣ the first 25 are my #bookspin list
2️⃣ the entire list is for #roll100 – the tagged is my first roll book
3️⃣ and my reading resolution: no book buying until I have less than 20 unread on my bookcase.

And I still have another dozen books to plug into the open slots as I take one off the shelf.

Smarkies I am trying my best to not buy too many books this year but I don't think I would be able to get my unread shelf to 20. 😅😅 6mo
Daisey I like how you combined your #BookSpin & #Roll100 into one list! 6mo
wanderinglynn @Smarkies it‘s a high goal that‘s for sure! We‘ll see how well I do. 😉 6mo
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wanderinglynn @Daisey thanks! ☺️ 6mo
TheSpineView Great list! Several on your list are also on mine. 6mo
PuddleJumper Awesome! 6mo
TheAromaofBooks Yay!!! Good luck!! I was so embarrassed when I started working on my #Roll100 list, all unread titles from my shelves... and realized that I still had enough (and did) to make a #TBRDeckofCards ALSO of unread books from my shelves! I'm also working on that book-buying ban!!! 😂 6mo
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Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Love this cover!! 7mo
Eggs Such a great book🤩🧡☝️ 7mo
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Sooo the lies we tell ourselves… such as I‘m not buying anymore books! I‘m just going to shop my shelves. And then 42 books later- which includes this Ruta Sepetys book- I‘m trying to imagine reconfiguring my bookshelves which will now contain the majority of my 2210 books! Sigh! Does anyone else have this problem? #bookaddict #bookworm #bookaholic

Reggie In the month of July I think I purchased 11 books and only read four and of those four none of them were one of the 11, so yes. Lol 9mo
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BridgetteM
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Finished The Fountains of Silence yesterday. It‘s my least favorite of Ruta Sepetys‘s books. To be fair, I have given her other books 5 stars, and I still liked this one. It made me want to learn more about Spain under Franco.

robinb Bridgette, hope all is OK with you. 💚We‘ve missed you in #LMPBC . 😕 8mo
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freeatlast1137
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Daniel, a rich kid from Dallas goes to Spain and meets Ana, a hotel worker assigned to his family.

I‘m terrible at summarizing books but I would recommend this book and author to anyone who likes historical fiction. I think this one is my favorite so far. I have one more to read and can‘t wait until her new one comes out in February, I believe.

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All of the characters were dynamic and well-developed. I felt invested in all of their stories especially Daniel and Ana's story. I also enjoyed the added aspect of the mystery about the dead babies, empty coffins, and babies being stolen. I had no idea that this happened in real life, so I appreciated how Sepetys portrayed this. All in all the novel felt very authentic. I have read all of Sepetys's books and I think this is her best work by far!

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Eggs My choice too❤️🧡❤️ 12mo
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks It was mine too!! 12mo
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Eggs
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Madrid, 1957. Under the fascist dictatorship of General Francisco Franco, Spain is hiding a dark secret....This is so good

#spain #julyjourneys @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks 📚💛📚 12mo
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Caroline_Roberts
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I just finished Fountains of Silence and loved it! It was beautifully written and atmospheric, and I really liked all of the characters. I found some parts to be slightly anti-climactic, but it was such an enjoyable read that I didn't mind.

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Saturday night 😍

Have you read this? If so, what did you think?

#currentlyreading

rjsthumbelina I definitely enjoyed it! Didn't know much about this part of history before reading 14mo
Butterfinger I liked it. An unknown history. 14mo
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Thanks for the tag @MegaWhoppingCosmicBookwyrm

1. By number of people, either Rececca or Salvage the Bones. By discussion, probably The Fountains of Silence with our #sundaybuddyread

2. Leprechauns because I'm not certain vampires are mythical. 😉🧛‍♂️

#two4tuesday @TheSpineView

MegaWhoppingCosmicBookwyrm Number 2! 😂🤣😂 1y
TheSpineView Thanks for playing! 1y
Tera66 🧛‍♂️ lol! I love that answer!! 1y
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Ellen_C
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I loved this YA novel! An eye-opener about the repression of the Franco regime in Spain, 1957, featuring a number of characters with secrets, including American teen Dan and Spanish teen Ana. Informative and riveting. https://cannonballread.com/2021/04/the-fountains-of-silence-elcicco/

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AvidlyAlexis
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20/100, 4☆ Great piece of historical fiction. I love how this author sheds light on long hidden parts if the past. The descriptions of Madrid were beautiful and only rivaled by the complex characters. Highly recommend.

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Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick
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I was unfamiliar with this spot of history - the stifling oppression under Franco's reign after the Spanish Civil War. Set in Madrid 1957, we follow Ana, a young woman working at the Hotel Castellana Hilton who gets assigned to the Mathesons, a Texan oil family with a handsome son. Daniel is a budding photographer but expected to join the oil business. The dark secrets of Madrid and their families unfold here. The short chapters move quickly,⬇️

Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick making this chunkster feel shorter than it is; so much so that I would've welcomed more of Part 2 since the ending felt a bit vague and abrupt. This is still a pick for the knowledge and mysteries, I just hoped for more ecploration after taking this journey through Madrid and getting to know these two families.
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A March #bookspinbingo box @TheAromaofBooks
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TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! 1y
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Thanks to @TheBookHippie and my #sundaybuddyread I learned so much about Francisco Franco‘s dictatorship and the U.S.‘s history with Spain during Franco‘s reign. This story was really good and each character‘s struggles were so heartfelt. I enjoyed this very much. This was my #bookspinbingo No. 7 pick.

TheBookHippie 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍 1y
TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! 1y
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vlwelser
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I normally love this author. But this felt rushed somehow. Maybe she jammed too much stuff in it. No idea. Anyway. It's really good, but not her best.

#SundayBuddyRead with @TheBookHippie and @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks

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@TheAromaofBooks

TheAromaofBooks Great progress!!! 1y
Sargar114 This was my only read from this author, but I share the sentiment. Really great content but felt rushed. You‘re right, possibly too much... (edited) 1y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Sargar114 be sure to try Out of the Easy and ❤️ 1y
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vlwelser @Sargar114 I agree with @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks though I haven't read Out of the Easy but this one is also spectacular 1y
Sargar114 Ooooh e-book for Salt to the Sea was 2.99, purchased! 1y
vlwelser @Sargar114 Great deal. Enjoy! 1y
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candority
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I didn‘t end up participating in any of the weekly discussions for the #SundayBuddyRead, but I did finish this one! 🙈 I enjoyed it for the most part, but I found the ending a bit abrupt (the audiobook finished playing while I was making dinner and I thought “that‘s it?!”) and it was a bit melodramatic at times. I enjoyed the introduction to a part of history that isn‘t often explored in books! 4⭐️ @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @TheBookHippie

Sargar114 🤣😂🤣😂 I had the same reaction at the end while reading it!!! 1y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Be sure to read and Salt to the Sea! Two of my favorites 💛 1y
candority @Sargar114 Right?! I was so surprised! 😂 1y
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candority @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I have Salt to the Sea on my shelves, I‘ll have to get to it soon 💕 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I also thought the ending was abrupt. I turned the page and looked around to see if pages fell out. 1y
candority @Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I don‘t blame you! I wonder why the author decided to end it that way? 🤔 1y
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Sargar114
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Mehso-so


#sundaybuddyread
I wanted to like this one more. I liked a lot of the characters but and was vested in their stories but it ultimately felt underdeveloped. I wanted more of what happened to them and the end of the main part of the story felt abruptly finished. Part two was more of an epilogue and that too felt underdeveloped. I read it as an e-book and I don‘t think that did the story any service. ⬇️

Sargar114 The quotes between the chapters in this format were more distracting than beneficial to the story, but I can see their benefit in a physical book form. I also found the short chapters made it hard to get invested in the characters. I eventually did, but by the time I did and the story was getting really good, it ended. If I did half stars, this one would be 3.5 for me. 1y
Sargar114 I‘ll have to go through the buddy read questions tomorrow. Sad I missed it, but it was a mama and boy day yesterday so didn‘t finish the book in time. 1y
Karisa I tried but couldn't get into the book at all. Maybe because I'd only had access to the audio version at first. Your post's picture helped me realize what some of the parts I was most confused by looked like. Didn't realize that at all with the audiobook version! 🤣 1y
Sargar114 @Karisa that makes sense! I think the format really makes a difference in this one and if they‘re saying those quotes I could see it being really confusing! 1y
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#47 of 2021. Day 4 and book 3 for #20in4 . I have read 13.5 hours. I read this book with #sundaybuddyread. This is my first book by this author and I really liked it. This story was set during the fascist regime of Franco in Spain and depicts the realities of what happened during that time. The author did a great job of immersing you in this world with great characters you became invested in. I would definitely recommend it. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Andrew65 Great total. 👏👏👏 1y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks 💛💛💛 1y
TheBookHippie ♥️♥️♥️♥️ 7mo
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My 3rd Rita Sepetys book & another heart-wrenching look at history. I learned much about the horrors of fascism in Franco‘s Spain & found myself caught up in the stories of the characters. There‘s a lot going on & much to keep track of, but it‘s well worth it. I didn‘t ugly cry as i did in her other books, but I did get choked up. It‘s YA & the MCs romance reflects that but the history & its impact on the lives of the people came through strong.💔

DebinHawaii Thanks to #sundaybuddyread & @TheBookHippie & @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks for picking it, hosting & the always great discussions! 🤗 (edited) 1y
Crazeedi I have enjoyed her books too, this one was really good 1y
TheBookHippie It was a good one !!! Hoping teens read it and see the danger of Fascism. 1y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Beautiful photo and thanks for joining!! 1y
lynneamch Watched her on Friends & Fiction and now I want to read all her books. Such an interesting person with a fascinating backstory into her career as an author. 1y
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I love Ava Gardner
Fun to see her referenced in this book.
I also realised I don‘t actually own the books I‘ve read and seen of hers 😳 must fix 🤣 book problems !

http://www.poblesdecatalunya.cat/element.php?e=6266#

Wonderful documentary https://www.amazon.com/Ava-Gardner-Life-Bigger-Movies/dp/B078TKXT8F

Jensol77 This book was amazing. The hotel scene when Ana brings her own silverware...heartbreaking and magical at the same time. Rita is an amazing writer. If you haven‘t, check out her other books. 1y
TheBookHippie @Jensol77 I‘ve read all her books 🤍 1y
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4.5 ⭐️

I really enjoyed this book! SO many plot lines, but all of them were interesting. I had a few theories on how things would wrap up, but was wrong about most of it, haha. I love historical fiction, but typically would go for Regency era pieces. I have recently been branching out and this was a wonderful read to learn more about Spain in this time period as well as life under Franco's regime.
#SundayBuddyRead

AmyG Ha...I didn‘t see any of the end coming. I loved it. (edited) 1y
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#SUNDAYBUDDYREAD

I thank you my fellow readers for another wonderful month of reading and discussion 🤍🤍

Sundays are the best days in this crazy world right now. I look forward to them every week!

A lot of these books I‘d never read. Some I‘d never finish 🤣 but always I learn, thank you for that 🤍

On to April 🤍🤍🤍

AmyG Great book choice. Thank you as I may not have picked this one up on my own. 1y
kspenmoll Thanks for all you do!!!! Love talking with everyone about the books. 1y
kspenmoll What is this a picture of? 1y
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TheBookHippie @kspenmoll Ava Gardner statue in Spain 🤍 1y
JaclynW Loved this selection and this forum. 1y
mollyrotondo Thank you! This is always wonderful! 1y
Hooked_on_books Thanks for such a great job hosting! 1y
DebinHawaii I am so glad we read this as I may not have gotten to it on my own even though I loved her other books. I always walk away from Sundays thinking about the book & the discussion for the rest of the week. Thank you for the excellent hosting! 🤗 (edited) 1y
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The authors notes
You can‘t know another‘s history and speak of it first person. The toll of fascism silence and regime is often on women and especially children ...
what did you think of her long explanation ? What did you learn reading this?
For me personally it‘s always about educating the young teaching them truth. The real truth. Not sound bites from news.

AmyG First, we are in a war in our country...fighting for truth. I agree so much that the young need to be educated because this fight is theirs....their future and they will have to be the ones to fight it or society is screwed. 1y
kspenmoll Yes the young need education- often I see students who seem to have no idea what is going on outside their personal lives. Giving them the truth, the background knowledge they need to be active citizens is our biggest challenge as educators. 1y
kspenmoll I enjoyed her author‘s notes. Spanish history is one I am least knowledgeable about. 1y
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kspenmoll This was such a layered book- loved it. 1y
JaclynW I'm with you about teaching truth. That's a lot of reason why I love reading. The young people are the future, it's a lot of my daily focus - building this up and out. @TheBookHippie I agree about teaching people how to be active citizens. @kspenmoll @AmyG I really liked this book. It had several layers to talk about and learn from. I didn't know much about this historical time so I learned a lot. Thanks for the additional links and pictures! ⬇️ 1y
JaclynW And for the amazing discussions and points made along the way. Very enriching experience! 💞 1y
mollyrotondo I am glad she told it through young people‘s perspectives. A young American, a young girl who is suffering because of her parents‘ political position, a young girl who has been raised to believe the dictator and the church are always right, young men who were tortured because of their “Red gene”. It showed how much the aftermath of war truly damages the healthy future for the young. 1y
Hooked_on_books I liked her approach and her explanation of it. I appreciate that I‘m not her audience. Targeting messages to young people can be very good for our collective future. 1y
DebinHawaii I liked the long notes & explanation of why the author went for this story & all she put into it. I think the more we can get history into the hands of the younger generation the better—the more discussion the better. This was interesting history & not a subject I knew much about so I appreciated the detail. Thanks for the great discussion questions & links. As always, I learn so much more from all our different ideas & views. 🤗 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick That quote stood out to me. I saw my 16 year old niece this weekend and mentioned this book. She's not a reader, but I continually try to persuade her. She was surprised that I told her I am still learning about history and other cultures, reading classics, and how I still have to interpret things for myself. I'll be keeping my copy of this book in hopes of sharing it with her (or maybe her younger sister in about 9 years). 1y
Sargar114 I had no idea that this happened in Spain. It was an interesting read and I learned a lot and I really enjoyed that aspect. 1y
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“When you discover truth you must speak it aloud and help others do the same. Truth breaks the chain of silence ..it sets us all free.”

That‘s the end ?!
Thoughts???

AmyG I watched The Social Dilemma last night on Netflix...so all I can say is...truth is everything. 1y
kspenmoll Truth can be hard but essential for all of us. 1y
vlwelser I really liked this book but it felt a little rushed. 1y
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JaclynW Love this quote! Truth can be hard to hear. Truth can be hard to find sometimes. Truth really is everything though. It most definitely sets you free. 1y
mollyrotondo Yes remaining silent is certainly not the answer. The truth is better than silence. 1y
DebinHawaii Knowing the truth is important. I feel sorry for Puri that she may never know her own truth. On one hand, I did want more from the ending, maybe even just an epilogue of what happened when Christina found out, met Lali, etc. but I think in the end, it was probably a better way to end it with the thought that the truth was no out there.🤷🏻‍♀️ 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick A good point to end with, but the entirety of Part 2 felt rushed. It moved so quickly, that I would've happily read another 50 pages to get a little more detail, insight, and follow up. I didn't need Daniel & Ana married, happily ever after, but more on Puri, Rafa, Ana's time under Paco Lobo, how the family ties were revealed to Cristina, etc. There was more here. I also hope Buttons had a great life. He was a precious little cupcake. 1y
Sargar114 @Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick my exact issue, part 2 get more like an epilogue that still didn‘t provide answers. It also seemed weird that, Puri, who knows the truth about Lali for 18 years and chose silence is still continuing to choose silence when Daniel is calling her out. I do wonder the fallout between her and her family or if she ended up keeping her distance after her discovery. 1y
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TWINS Julia‘s child and Daniels sister. Lali and Cristina are sisters.

Did we all see that coming ????

AmyG I didn‘t see that AT ALL. I love a good twist. 1y
DanaManiac I didn‘t see that coming, but I knew we‘d find out something about Cristina‘s birth family when they adopted her from Spain. 1y
kspenmoll I did not see that coming at all!!!!!! 1y
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vlwelser I was sure that Cristina was going to turn out to be Ana's child. But that wouldn't have fit with the author's point about the stolen babies. 1y
JaclynW 🤯🤯🤯 1y
mollyrotondo Had no clue that was going to be revealed. Good twist that made total sense. 1y
DebinHawaii I knew there was something about her because there was so much focus on baby “Clover” with Puri but did not put her as Lali‘s twin until Puri freaked out when she undressed her. I think that twist reveal with Puri was well-executed! 1y
Hooked_on_books Nope, I didn‘t see it coming. It was a little too neat, but it worked for the story. 1y
Jensol77 I had no idea that this happened in such recent history. 1y
TheBookHippie @Jensol77 yes. My lifetime. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick The twins twist totally caught me by surprise! I wondered who Clover was, then thought we focused on her to ultimately go home with the Mathesons, but Julia had twins!? Nope...didn't see that coming. 1y
Sargar114 @Hooked_on_books my thoughts as well 1y
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Daniel feels her before he sees her. What do you think of their reunion. To cliche? Or what we wanted to read? Them together.

Ben. Took care of Ana with Paco, who was HUNTING Nazis of all things! Ben getting Ana the job. I think he is my favorite character in the book. What were your thoughts?

AmyG Ben was such a decent man....I, too, loved his character. He has such an impact on Daniel. Yes, the end was a bit cliche but, imho, it worked. I was reading through tears I was so happy they found each other. It just shows how invested I bcame in these characters. 1y
DanaManiac I think the end wasn‘t cliche but it was odd to see how open they both were after so many years and the fact that they weren‘t able to be open with each other when they first met. Idk if I buy that Ana just lost all of that fear and hesitation that caused her to be pretty secretive. 1y
TheBookHippie @DanaManiac I chalk that up to this being a YA book and actually marketed as a of all things a romance ! 😳🤯 which personally I never seek to read on purpose 😂 1y
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DanaManiac @TheBookHippie OH! Hahaha I definitely missed that! 😂 1y
kspenmoll Ben was a wonderful, colorful character- a true mentor to Daniel when he needed one. He was generous with opening up opportunities to Daniel. The ending worked for me, despite it being somewhat if a cliche. Maybe it was a relief after all the horror? 1y
vlwelser I really liked Ben. I think that was my answer to a different question also. Paco turned out to be pretty interesting for a really minor character. 1y
JaclynW Maybe cliché but it worked. I definitely find this to be the case in YA books. I also don't usually seek out romance on purpose either, but sometimes they can be fun. @TheBookHippie @vlwelser @kspenmoll @amyg @DanaManiac I LOVED Ben too!! He was a minor character but made huge impacts. I was shocked about the Nazi hunter. I wasn't expecting that. Wow. I was grateful to Ben for taking care of Ana. 1y
JaclynW @kspenmoll I love mentors! 1y
mollyrotondo It was totally cliche! And I also found it odd that Ana would be so affectionate with Daniel so quickly. But they are adults at this point so maybe? I was still really happy for them though and was relieved that they finally got to be together. And I‘m so happy we got Paco‘s story. I wondered about that guy lol 1y
DebinHawaii I confess, I thought Pacino was a bad guy at first & was surprised he was a Nazi hunter & working with Ben. And yes, yay for Ben! What a good guy. Was the end a bit cliche, sure, but it was satisfying. These two characters deserved each other & a happy ending. I think Ana was always affectionate but had to be guarded because she had so much to lose. I can see her being lighter, open & less afraid as a more experienced adult & more secure in life. 1y
Hooked_on_books It was definitely cliche! It works for the book, but the reality is they don‘t know each other any more. And they didn‘t know each other that well to begin with. Maybe they could end up together, but it‘s by no means a given. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick A bit cliché, but I'll allow it. I do like that it's ultimately open-ended and that they're happy for now. We don't know what the future brings for them, but with the push and pull between them (and both being single 20 years later), I'll allow it. I love that Ben helped to look out for Ana and got her a job with Paco Lobo. Here we all expected shadiness due to sponsoring a village but this guy was out there hunting Nazis!!! I LOVE IT! 😂 1y
Sargar114 I agree, cliche, but okay. Given the time away...I don‘t think there is a way to avoid some kind of cliche. I also loved Ben, probably a favorite as well. 1y
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Cristina. Why did Daniels mom never want her to return?
As soon as Cristina is there she feels emotional and a magnetic pull. Do you feel that about a place?

AmyG Perhaps Daniel‘s Mom didn‘t want Christina to find a need to search for her birth mother. Christina, deep down, felt her birth country in her bones. 1y
kspenmoll She must have been afraid to lose her to Spain or something like that, was afraid of her finding her birth mother. What would she discover? Christina felt Spain completed her- 1y
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JaclynW Did Daniel's mom know something?? Or just fear losing her daughter to biological parents or country of origin? @vlwelser @kspenmoll @amyg I'm drawn to big cities. I'm drawn to Ireland (previous connection from living there). I'm always counting down the days to my return. I think Daniel's mom found that to be the case a bit. 1y
mollyrotondo I guess she was afraid that the daughter might find out the seedy underbelly of Spain. I think Daniel‘s mom knew what was going on to some extent but ignored it because she wanted another child. Justified it because she was giving a baby a safe home in America. I also felt that Cristina felt a pull to Spain because that‘s where her twin was. 1y
DebinHawaii I believe both his parents knew something was going on with the adoptions but maybe not the whole horror & extent of it. Ultimately she didn‘t want to lose her daughter or her love. Daniel‘s mom seemed happiest in Spain & maybe she thought Christina would want to be there rather than with them in Texas. And, I agree with @mollyrotondo that a pull for Christina to Spain would be her twin, a missing piece of her life. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I think Mom knew that not all of the adoptions were on the up & up, so it was a fear of the family finding out the truth and their reactions to the news. I think Cristina felt a pull to Spain because she knew that's where she was from and never had the chance to know it. 1y
Sargar114 @DebinHawaii @Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I agree, I think when you know you‘re paying that much something probably isn‘t on the up & up. Probably why they left so quickly after adopting. No doubt the added pull of her twin is why Christina wanted to go to Spain, but I‘m sure wanting to know your origin is a big pull too. 1y
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Daniels mom died of cancer and he helped raise his sister. Interesting plot line? Both he and Nick ended up in the end with their fathers……

AmyG Well, we knew the Mom was sick so I was not surprised that she died. I think it brought the family even closer....especially Daniel and his father. The fathers were the difference in how the two boys grew up and the men they would become. 1y
DanaManiac I‘m glad Daniel at least started out on his own path even if circumstances brought him back to the family business. 1y
kspenmoll I am glad daniel got some time to follow his dream before his mom died & he returned home. His commitment to his family changed his relationship with his dad for the better. 1y
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vlwelser It did sort of come full circle and they all got some of what they wanted. I liked that Daniel got to pursue photography before taking up the roll his father originally intended for him. Nick seemed to be on this path anyway, despite not really having a lot of respect for his father. 1y
JaclynW @vlwelser Agreed. I liked how the story took this direction. The full circle moment. Daniel did such a great job raising his sister. Their family had strong bonds. 1y
mollyrotondo Yeah I was disappointed he was made to come back home to work in the oil business but it did help build his relationship with his father. 1y
DebinHawaii I liked that he had a chance to do what he wanted & was sorry to see him give it up but he did what he needed to do for the people he cared about. I think that‘s what made me what Daniel & Ana to work out in the end so much—they both cared so much about their families & loved ones, they sacrificed their own happiness & fulfillment. I was vested in them getting the happy ending they both deserved. ❤️❤️❤️ 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I wasn't surprised that Mom died, but I was almost expecting her death to be why he returned to Spain. Bummed that Daniel is in oil, but it was nice to see that he didn't seem to have a chip on his shoulder about it. I also wonder if he returned home to help care for Cristina, part for the role of big brother, but also a bit for a fatherly role he might have been missing, thinking he may never get that chance. 1y
Sargar114 I agree with everyone, I like that he got a chance to pursue his dream. I‘m sure photography was difficult when she passed anyway since she was his only support before they went to Spain so that might explain part of the reason he gave it up. That part felt believable to me and I appreciated that. 1y
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So Daniel still saw Ben, Ben has died by this time, but pretty much told him to live and stop being angry and fix hisself. Was Ana the only fix for him?

AmyG I like to believe she was...that they were meant to be together ❤️ 1y
kspenmoll Ana was. ❤️ 1y
vlwelser I really liked Ben. 1y
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JaclynW I think Daniel lived a good life but a piece was always missing. Ana. ❤️ 1y
mollyrotondo Haha I love that we all love love lol. Yes he needed Ana to be whole again lol and he should go back to photography!!! 1y
DebinHawaii I loved how close he was to Ben & was sad Ben passed. I think Ana was what he was missing for sure. He seems to have been existing without her but not really living, so hopefully he will start. And I agree @mollyrotondo he should go back to photography! 😉 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I shed a tear for Ben. I think Daniel may have found happiness with another woman, but always would have wondered “what if“. His bond with Ana was just too strong. “He's her lobster!“ I was sad that he gave up professional photography to work in oil, though. I know local gigs may not have been as sexy or provocative, but there were still opportunities to be a photographer in Texas. 1y
Sargar114 I liked Ben too. This was where the book felt more YA for me...I‘m sure I‘m just being cynical. I‘m sure if it was more of an adult read...we would have heard more of a mention of his flings or being a playboy but saving his heart for Ana. Like @Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick said, he‘s her lobster! 1y
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Nick writing a letter every year to Daniel. What do you think of that? THEN he sends word that he is in Madrid, and a picture of Ana?

AmyG I always had a feeling Nick was a decent guy....just a product of having to deal with the horrible father that he had. 1y
DanaManiac I thought that was sweet of Nick. I really wasn‘t sure what to think of him because some of his actions seemed sneaky and unkind. But I think overall he‘s an OK guy. 1y
kspenmoll Nick was a product of his parents but generous in spirit- that came through at different times. His loyalty to Daniel & Ana did not surprise me. 1y
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vlwelser I thought this was pretty cute actually. They only knew each other for a brief time but then sort of casually kept in touch for 18 years. 1y
JaclynW I loved these letters and the friendship they had. 1y
mollyrotondo Yes I loved this friendship. It was sweet that Nick kept in touch and never forgot all they had been through together. Nick really was a good friend. 1y
DebinHawaii I liked Nick & appreciated how he reached out to Daniel through the years. Although still a bit of a spoiled playboy, he has a good & decent heart. Happy to read that his mom divorced evil Shep & married a good guy. Nick obviously took after her! 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick See! I knew Nick was just misunderstood!! 😂 😂 😂 Hearing that he wrote Daniel an annual letter every year was unexpected but very sweet. Perhaps it was partially for Ana's peace of mind, but precious nonetheless. 1y
Sargar114 I liked that Nick ended up being a good guy too. Also the forethought to wait until Franco died to even mention Ana and coming back to Spain, quality. 1y
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Franco is DEAD. President Ford of the US was with sorrow.
Thoughts? Also what a relief this must have been.

AmyG I can only imagine how utterly joyful it was to find you are free of your fascist leader. ;) 1y
kspenmoll It had to be hard to grasp the meaning of his death after so many decades under his control in every facet of their lives. Wondering about the complicity of the Catholic Church & how that could be reconciled. Silence protected their devastating losses. (edited) 1y
vlwelser They must have been so relieved. But the people that participated in it must have been pretty worried. 1y
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JaclynW Freedom! But how do you move on after that? What a mess to sift through. I can't imagine. 1y
mollyrotondo I thought it was really interesting that they quickly started to move toward democracy. He‘s dead so let‘s scrap that fascist idea and move on. It was really wonderful. And yes what a huge relief for the people of Spain. 1y
DebinHawaii I do think it interesting that President Ford & other world leaders expressed sorrow but no Western European leaders attended the funeral except for Prince Rainer of Monaco. (The US VP Rockefeller went). Definitely a lot for a country to sift through as @JaclynW said, but for the oppressed, probably a feeling of relief but still worry for the future. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Considering how much business the US was doing there, the diplomatic answer was to show sorrow so as not to anger any Franco sympathizers. Funny though that Western leaders all had to wash their hair the day of the funeral or had other plans. 😂 Anyone under 50/55 years of age, was likely pretty well used to the Franco rule so it must've been a relief, but also a little scary. Would his successor want democracy or would he be worse than Franco? 1y
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It‘s been 18 years. Oh also Laura Beth is DIVORCED. Hahahaha.
What do you think of the story jumping like this?

AmyG Ha...th atory had to jump or we would have been reading it forever. 🤣 I loved how the story ended. And I was so happy for him to stay away from Laura Beth. 1y
kspenmoll Glad Laura Beth revealed her true colors to his mom & dad at dinner. 1y
DanaManiac Laura Beth was a hot mess. I‘m glad Daniel steered clear of her even after returning home without his love. 1y
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JaclynW Loved the ending. 1y
DebinHawaii I agree with @AmyG to not jump would have made the book too long. I loved how it ended too & glad Daniel had nothing more to do with Laura Beth. 🤢 1y
mollyrotondo Yes I was afraid Laura Beth was going to show up again but so glad she didn‘t. I was afraid Nick was going to marry her 😂 1y
Hooked_on_books I liked that it jumped so that we could see what happened for everyone. I don‘t know if all their fates were entirely realistic, but they were satisfying. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Divorce. Couldn't have happened to a nice character! 😄 I don't imagine she was ever happy with what she had. I was happy that Daniel kept his distance from her over the years. The time jump surprised me, but ultimately it was for the best. 1y
Sargar114 I like the jump in time, but I would have liked to have known more about what happened to Rafa, Julia, Ana. That last section was only told through Daniel‘s perspective so that‘s the bulk of what we got. I also really liked Christina and would have liked to seen more of her story and meeting her birth family for real. Granted that would have been a very long book haha 1y
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Americas part in Spain and Franco. Shocking to you? Did you know? What are you thoughts? Is the US complicit in Franco‘s long reign?

AmyG The US is complicit is more than we can imagine. Look at how long it took the US to fight Hitler. 1y
kspenmoll It did not shock me at all. Our country‘s history is full of such complicit relationships with dictators, often unknown to the public. 1y
vlwelser This wasn't shocking to me at all. The US has a history of doing this. 1y
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JaclynW I wasn't aware of the extent of this. It was interesting to learn. I agree that the US has a history of sitting back and not getting involved in the right ways. Self-interest... Always drives... 1y
DebinHawaii Although I didn‘t know all of the details of Franco, definitely not a shock—the US has always done this and likely always will—too many politicians & “powerful” people benefit from these relationships so the truly wrong & evil aspects are ignored or downplayed. 1y
mollyrotondo @TheBookHippie taught me a lot about Franco and the US so thank you! I‘m not surprised because of our country‘s history. But even though it‘s not surprising it is still upsetting to read every time. 1y
Hooked_on_books I knew very little about Franco. And yes, the US is complicit, but that‘s not surprising. Our government does what serves its interests, not what‘s right. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I have difficulty thinking that Franco would've reigned as long as he did if the US wasn't playing nice with them, turning a blind eye to the atrocities they were fostering. Hey, it didn't directly affect us...it wasn't white American children being stolen from the wrong parents, so who cares!? 😡 😡 I didn't really know about this, but I can't say I'm surprised by much anymore. 1y
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Letters, coins and a gutted, hollow, anger and so sad. Daniel as he leaves. UGH.
Rafa released from jail and feeling about the same.
Fascism has many layers.
Why would anyone wish for Fascism ? Why do people not see it when it is happening?

AmyG I think fear has a lot to do with why people don‘t see it coming and why people support it. Fear of the “other” , what is happening to their country....fear instilled by powerful politicians. They pull at this strong emotion, fear, to gather followers. Fear of liberals (as fascism is conservative), fear of different races of people. (edited) 1y
kspenmoll Yes, fear of the “other”, fear of change, fear that extinguishes any generosity of spirit, any openness to dialogue. Fear instilled by lies of politicians, people in power do not want to lose their power & the privileges that come with power. 1y
TheBookHippie @AmyG @kspenmoll FEAR - and the religious fear they teach to match everything you both said. Just astounds me.. 1y
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DanaManiac Yes I agree- the flames of fear of any kind can be fanned into acceptance of all kinds of atrocities. Being human is so odd. 1y
JaclynW @DanaManiac Being human is odd!i ask myself all of the time how people can't see fascism coming. I agree with you all that much is driven by fear. Picking this apart is fascinating. @TheBookHippie @kspenmoll @amyg 1y
DebinHawaii I agree with what everyone said. Fascism is the selling of fear & making people afraid of what they will lose if they don‘t comply. 1y
mollyrotondo But it‘s also that herd mentality too. Get a few people who are good public speakers or good at rallying and people just follow. They don‘t see the forest for the trees. And then it‘s too late and everybody is living in fear and afraid to speak up. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Fear. Complacency. Indoctrination. That's just the start of it. There are some people who won't even send back food in a restaurant for fear of someone spitting in it before returning it to them. People won't stand up for minor threats, so I can't imagine those people same people would be willing to challenge Fascism or the like. I also know Cubans who are so afraid of Communism that any “socialist“ program makes their asshole pucker. 1y
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Ben, telling Daniel he will go to School he will win the contest he will get back to get Ana. Speaking into his life, at this point in reading did you think it would happen??

Ben pointing out there are ALWAYS deceitful jealous people…..but He and Ana were TRUTH. Fuga playing in Daniels mind. Daniels head. Did Daniel do the right thing at this point in the story? Was it the safest for the family?

AmyG Daniel felt he did the right thing at that moment. I loved the ending. 1y
kspenmoll Yes, Daniel did the right thing. 1y
JaclynW I loved Ben. I'm glad Daniel and him stayed connected. I think Daniel did what he thought was best. The ending was nice. But I couldn't help thinking how many wasted years.... @kspenmoll @AmyG 1y
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mollyrotondo Daniel did the right thing at the time. I‘m glad he was able to get back to Madrid after Franco‘s death. Sometimes you need to take a step back for a little while. It was a hard thing to do but a right decision for the circumstances. 1y
DebinHawaii I think he & Ana both did the right thing at the time. There were too many lives at risk & Daniel wasn‘t in a position to do more. It was sad but the best thing they could do. I did think they would make it back to each other somehow & although it was a long time in coming, I liked the way it turned out. (edited) 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I really liked Ben's character, the way he was a friend & mentor to Daniel was sweet. I like to think that Ben saw the truth of Daniel & Ana's relationship with the same eye he uses for his journalism stories. Once Fuga was murdered, I wasn't sure we'd get these two kids together at the end, but I'm happy they did. 1y
Sargar114 I was worried Ben was going to turn out bad, but I‘m glad he didn‘t because I really enjoyed him and his relationship with Daniel. I loved how realistic Daniel‘s journey played out. I feel like he‘s the only character who‘s journey was fully fleshed out. 1y
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Rafa. Fuga saved his life. Fuga was ready to die.
El Huerfano is taking care of his own.
Is his death in vain?

AmyG I don‘t think Fuga was ready to die.l..he just wasn‘t afraid to die. It wasn‘t for nothing as he saved Rafa. 1y
kspenmoll Agree with @AmyG I don‘t think he wanted to die- he had unexplored opportunities for his passion, bull fighting opening up. But he wasn‘t afraid & protected Rafa. 1y
DanaManiac Yeah I agree that he wasn‘t ready to die, just that he wasn‘t afraid. He and Rafa had such a special friendship. 1y
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JaclynW This moment took my breath away. Broke my heart. This showed so much of who Fuga is. @DanaManiac @kspenmoll @amyg 1y
DebinHawaii He was a hero, pure & simple. He saved Rafa with his actions. He wasn‘t ready to die but he did to try to protect his friend. 💔💔💔 1y
mollyrotondo He is a hero @DebinHawaii he was such a strong character and I‘m glad he spoke with Daniel before this so that he could get the story of the stolen babies out to the world. He should have never died this young though. 1y
Hooked_on_books I don‘t think his death was in vain for Rafa, and that‘s what matters. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Although Rafa had his sisters, he was an orphan. El Huerfino saved one last orphan with his sacrifice. He was loyal and heroic. 1y
Sargar114 Agree with everyone. Fuga was definitely a hero. He was always looking out for others and those without a voice or lesser off, of course he dies for his friend. 😢 1y
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What do you think of the Priest throughout our reading? Good or bad?

AmyG I think the Priest was in a position of Franco vs the people. If he sided with the people he would be punished by Franco. 1y
kspenmoll The priest had to behave as he did- help clandestinely- that way he could manage some good for his people. 1y
DebinHawaii Yes, the priest did what he could to help his people. With the Franco & the church so powerful, it was the only way for him to do it, through little quiet acts. I think he was a basically good & caring person. (edited) 1y
mollyrotondo I think was priest was a caring person but I do think the Church as a whole were just as evil as Franco for even agreeing to go along with this scheme. The Church made a lot of money off of this human trafficking plan so they as a whole are not innocent. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I was cautiously optimistic about him so I was pleasantly surprised that he was ultimately helpful, as much as he could be without falling into Franco's wrath. 1y
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Daniels parents ready to go oh and they adopted a baby. OY.

Do you think they couldn‘t in the states or did she want a piece of Spain in her child ?

Then

Lali has a fever. Puri sees the TRUTH of it all.

How many twist did you see?

AmyG I didn‘t see so many of the twists...HA, I never do. I wonder if she wanted to give a child a Spain a chance at a good life as that is her country. I loved the relationship of The baby in the family...even after the Mom died. 1y
kspenmoll I was continuously taken by surprise throughout the book- could not have predicted all the twists & turns. I think she wanted a piece of Spain, & wanted to share in her good fortune. 1y
JaclynW @AmyG @kspenmoll I also didn't see all of the twists and turns. I think the baby came from a desire to have another child, have a bit of Spain and help those in need (her beliefs). 1y
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JaclynW Puri definitely began figuring things out and she got punished for it. 1y
vlwelser It was fairly obvious that they were going to adopt a baby. It may have been easier to do it in Spain where all you seemed to need was money. 1y
DebinHawaii I definitely saw the adopt-the-baby thing & that it would be from the orphanage so you knew it would be a stolen baby, but the twist of it being Lali‘s twin caught me by surprise until Puri‘s realization looking at her unwrapped. 1y
mollyrotondo So I knew the parents were goin to adopt a baby. But this conversation has explained Puri‘s realization when she was dabbing Lali with cold water. I had no clue what she was realizing until my trusty Sunday buddy read friends explained it right here 🤦🏻‍♀️ Her toes! 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Adopting a Spanish baby was the least surprising part of all of this for me, unless the Mathesons ended up getting into something far more sinister. I think Mom just wanted a piece of Spain & to share her good fortune. I didn't pick up on the twins twist until it was spelled out in the book. 😆 Woops! An interesting way to tie them all together, and again, it left the guilty parties relatively uncharacterized here. 1y
Sargar114 I think some of it was they could adopt in Spain without the social discouragement of them not being able to have a baby on their own. It seems like they emphasized the stigma of infertility and social status. So going to Spain they could play off the baby as their own. I don‘t know if they ever mentioned to their friends that Christina was adopted. 1y
Sargar114 I didn‘t love the twin twist, but looking back it is not surprising and she was leading up to something. I wish the resulting affects and relationships were more developed. That part felt rushed and almost an afterthought. 1y
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SO, Lorenza is the ONE writing the notes. Of course. Lorenza whose father is a Crow. What do you think of her. Pure evil or survivalist? Did she get Fuga killed, and why? Ben seems to allude to that. Very fact. Jilted and revenge? Or POWER?

AmyG A bit of evil, loyalty, power and self-preservation. 1y
Helen19 I was more surprised at her being Rafa‘s ex-girlfriend than I was at her being the note writer and photo stealer! 1y
kspenmoll Self preservation, power, family ties to her dad lets her exploit power. Wow- Rafa ex- girlfriend- that came out of nowhere for me. She got her revenge. Evil festers once it rears its head. (edited) 1y
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DanaManiac I think a combo of evil and self preservation drove Lorenza 1y
JaclynW @AmyG @DanaManiac @kspenmoll @Helen19 Lorenza was just awfully evil! I was surprised at her connection to Rafa too. How can you live with yourself knowing that you have caused so many hardships and devastation for others? 1y
vlwelser I think she's evil. She could have just as easily kept her mouth shut. 1y
TheBookHippie @JaclynW Apparentky you can live well and a long long time ..and you can become a president, serve in Congress... endorse it all. 1y
TheBookHippie @vlwelser exactly she could have chosen to keep her mouth shut. Drunk on power she was. 1y
vlwelser She was such a bitter person. And to try to ruin so many people's lives is just awful. I thought it was weird that Laura Beth was mentioned as divorced but Lorenza isn't really brought up again later. Unless I missed it somehow. 1y
JaclynW @TheBookHippie Makes me sick.🤢 🤮 1y
TheBookHippie @JaclynW It‘s not new. Most activist accept it as reality but the ratio is definitely really bad currently. 1y
JaclynW @TheBookHippie Yes, unfortunately. 1y
DebinHawaii I hope she somehow got her comeuppance but sadly, like Nick‘s dad, she probably didn‘t. Such a bitter & evil person. 1y
mollyrotondo Very evil and drunk on power because her father was given so much power over peoples‘ lives by Franco. Any false move and the Crows could kill. She was despicable 1y
Hooked_on_books I think she‘s an opportunist with little to no moral compass. You know, like Ivanka. 1y
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Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Of course it was that #$%^&*! (^&$. She was living high on the power trip that came from her looks and daddy's connections. I was disappointed that she was Rafa's ex, but not totally surprised. I would've liked to have know that, despite getting off with no repercussions from this particular scenario, that karma eventually bit her in the ass, but alas, she storyline just faded away here. 1y
Sargar114 The optimist in me thinks it‘s starts as a means to survive and then when things go better for you then you dive into the benefits of being awful. It seemed insanely petty snitching about Rafa and Fuga practicing for getting broken up with...especially knowing it would get them killed and arrested. I believe it knowing the character as we do...just disgusting 1y
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Ana fired for the book. Really?? Ana running from Daniel. You can‘t love me. What did you think here at this point in the story?

AmyG I thought she was trying to protect her family. She didn‘t see a possible life with Daniel. 1y
kspenmoll I too thought she was acting in her family‘s best interest. They had too much to lose- 1y
DanaManiac I think that if nothing had happened with the Van Dorn family, she might have entertained a thought about Daniel. But she‘s so worried and always so warned about dreaming above her station on life. 1y
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JaclynW Agreed. She was looking out for her family. Reality. 1y
vlwelser Obviously the book was an excuse but I still don't get what the end game was except maybe jealousy. 1y
DebinHawaii I really thought Daniel‘s father got her fired at first. 🤷🏻‍♀️ She really didn‘t have a choice with Daniel, she gave him up to protect her family as everyone said. 1y
mollyrotondo Yes she needed to protect her family so I understand her pushing Daniel away. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Sad that having a book in your possession, with no one accusing you of theft, if considered grounds for termination. Oh wealth! Oh privilege! Oh politics! You are fickle bastards. With Rafa gone, her family needed her now more than ever. She couldn't run off in love. Ana made a difficult decision to push Daniel away. 1y
Sargar114 @Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I think because there was an inscription to someone else “Tom Collins” they assumed she stole it...but I still think it had to do with the Van Dorns @DebinHawaii probably, Lorenza saying she had the book or something 1y
Sargar114 Agree with everyone though, pushing Daniel away was to protect her family...and sadly the right thing to do 1y
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Puri. What secrets are there? Her realizing, “We really are prettier with our mouths SHUT.” A pivotal moment for her life?

Puri caught by Sister Hortensia.

Purification ... thoughts ?!

Puri. A nun. Something has stolen the light from her eyes.
Was she forced into being nun?
Her calling to silence ?!

Thoughts ???

AmyG Puri represented so many people from her country. She was torn in her beliefs...what she was told and what was the truth. How she should behave or not. 1y
kspenmoll Puri‘s life was sad- a symbol of what silencing the truth did to people at that time in Spain. Any light she carried within, extinguished. 1y
DanaManiac I felt sad for Puri. No one knows how they‘d react in a situation and the fact that she couldn‘t overcome the indoctrination is very sad indeed. 1y
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JaclynW Her story was so heartbreaking for me. Definitely indoctrination. Her silencing 💔. I loved her curiosity at the beginning. To see that be squashed 💔😭. @DanaManiac @kspenmoll @amyg 1y
vlwelser This transition was a little chaotic to me, though I think once she realized the babies were twins that was a turning point for her. 1y
JaclynW Also "prettier with our mouths shut!" ???? 1y
DebinHawaii I felt sorry for her—to learn what she did & not feel able to change it & to have to keep it silenced, what a burden. 1y
mollyrotondo She is the prime example of what war does to the children who live after the war is over. She was brought up to believe that Franco‘s Christian ways were right and shouldn‘t be questioned and could not deal with the conflict inside herself. So she decided to remain silent. So terribly sad. 1y
Hooked_on_books I don‘t think she saw any other options for herself. And there may not have been any. All too common around the world for those with little or nothing living under dictatorship. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Puri's story was heartbreaking for me. To have that hope and curiosity snuffed out of her with fear and indoctrination just hurts my soul. I feared what would become of her once she threw herself at Sister Hortensia's feet, so at least she was alive, even if she wasn't really living. 😥 1y
Sargar114 I agree with everyone. Puri‘s story was heartbreaking almost disappointing. I agree @vlwelser that moment when she realized Clover was a twin and the impact it would have on her family and her involvement, I don‘t think she could take it and ultimately chose silence as a nun. 1y
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Fuga.. Dead. Rafa arrested……
Fascism.
The picture of it.
It broke my heart...
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Thoughts ?

AmyG It was nipping at our heels here in the US. 1y
kspenmoll Fuga was a hero to Rafa- the prison scenes showed the depth of their connectedness in life and death. 1y
JaclynW 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 1y
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vlwelser Poor Fuga. This whole part seemed to happen a little too quickly for my taste. The whole book was like that, despite being pretty long. 1y
mollyrotondo Uhh I was devastated. I did not see this type of death coming. I thought he might get killed by the bull but then he gets shot by the Crows. So unexpected. So sad. But I agree with @vlwelser that this part did happen to quickly. Blink of an eye really. 1y
TheBookHippie @mollyrotondo Reality of Fascism . 1y
TheBookHippie @AmyG still is. 1y
TheBookHippie @vlwelser I think she is teaching us Fascism . 1y
DebinHawaii We knew Fuga was not going to make & I got to the field & knew something bad was going to happen there but not what did or that fast. I do think the abruptness & violence of the action was very telling of the evil that was happening in Franco‘s fascist regime. More so than his death, what wrecked me was Rafa realizing that him not reacting to the danger was Fuga‘s final heroic act. 💔😭 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Not El Huerfino! 😭 His friendship was Rafa was a good one and as @Debinhawaii mentioned, Rafa's realizations about the incident afterwards was heartbreaking. I hoped they would've lived, but even expecting injury or death, this one came up rather unexpectedly. 1y
Sargar114 @DebinHawaii my heart broke for Rafa, but in that moment it was quite beautiful. That aspect made up for the fact that he didn‘t die more “gloriously” as a bullfighter. 1y
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“Nobody ever lives their life all the way up except Bullfighters” Banned author Hemingway. A Favorite of mine, Hemingway- is banned a ton. Especially under Fascism and Dictators. Do you think this could happen where you live?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Whom_the_Bell_Tolls

AmyG It was happening before Jan 20. There are politicians in this country who are still trying to make it happen. 1y
kspenmoll I agree with @AmyG . It was happening here; history rewritten with falsehoods/ lying, by Trump etc. 1y
TheBookHippie @AmyG @kspenmoll and people refuse to see it or believe it. Truth right in their face but they‘ll believe the lie. 🤯 1y
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AmyG @TheBookHippie If people only get their news from Fox News, OANN, Newsmax etc ( their own “truth” for profit) and youtube and Facebook ( which, through written algorithms steer them to what they want to hear....bias)....then they only know what they are fed and believe that to be truth. It is a VERY dangerous world we live in. (edited) 1y
TheBookHippie @AmyG ALL TRUTH. Just astounds one how willing people are to be sheep 1y
AmyG @TheBookHippie Ah, but they don‘t believe they ARE sheep. 😳 The fight against agreeing what IS truth may lead to the end of our democracy. 😢 1y
TheBookHippie @AmyG my everyday fear 1y
AmyG @TheBookHippie Mine, too. 1y
JaclynW @AmyG @kspenmoll @TheBookHippie Truth! Ditto to everything said. Anytime I hear that someone may ban something it is a red flag for me. Something isn't right if you are taking information away from others. 1y
kspenmoll @Jaclyn Well said!!! 1y
vlwelser I loved for whom the bell tolls. But I read it a long time ago. 1y
mollyrotondo I hate that books and movies and other forms of art and information are banned in this country. The country where free speech is a right. Has no one read Fahrenheit 451? And that a country that holds dearly the right to bear arms doesn‘t speak up when our right to free speech is threatened like in the case of banning literature. Uhhh I get so frustrated. 1y
TheBookHippie @mollyrotondo Me too. All that Every Single Day so incredibly frustrated 1y
DebinHawaii As everyone says, it happens, is happening all the time. I was looking to see if I could find banned books in Hawaii schools & found this short article about books banned in prisons both interesting & dismaying: https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/who-should-decide-what-books-are-allowed-... (edited) 1y
Hooked_on_books Absolutely! People try to ban books all the time! Especially those that contain content those people don‘t want to have to deal with. If a book is so threatening to you, something is wrong. 1y
Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick Sadly, this is now a daily occurrence. There is always someone trying to ban a book, movie, TV show, or song (locally or more widely, depending on the medium). Hell, even apps and internet websites are subject to bans and limits. I worry about the censorship and removal of things that previously passed as acceptable, too, as we see more of the cancel-culture, just because it's a slippery slope to skate down. 1y
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