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Red Clocks
Red Clocks: A Novel | Leni Zumas
Five women. One question. What is a woman for? In this ferociously imaginative novel, abortion is once again illegal in America, in-vitro fertilization is banned, and the Personhood Amendment grants rights of life, liberty, and property to every embryo. In a small Oregon fishing town, five very different women navigate these new barriers alongside age-old questions surrounding motherhood, identity, and freedom. Ro, a single high-school teacher, is trying to have a baby on her own, while also writing a biography of Eivr, a little-known 19th-century female polar explorer. Susan is a frustrated mother of two, trapped in a crumbling marriage. Mattie is the adopted daughter of doting parents and one of Ro's best students, who finds herself pregnant with nowhere to turn. And Gin is the gifted, forest-dwelling homeopath, or "mender," who brings all their fates together when she's arrested and put on trial in a frenzied modern-day witch hunt. RED CLOCKS is at once a riveting drama, whose mysteries unfold with magnetic energy, and a shattering novel of ideas. In the vein of Margaret Atwood and Eileen Myles, Leni Zumas fearlessly explores the contours of female experience, evoking THE HANDMAID'S TALE for a new millennium. This is a story of resilience, transformation, and hope in tumultuous-even frightening-times.
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archaeolibrarianologist
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Christyco125
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Bailedbailed

A not-for-me #bookclub pick. I tried but I couldn‘t get into rhythm of the writing and the slow buildup was killing me.

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Kerrbearlib
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Three dystopian books I have read that touch on reproductive right (or lack of them) for people with uteruses.

For all three: tw reproductive rights, reproductive issues

Red Clocks: tw for abortion, infertility

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Eggbeater
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This feminist dystopian written four years ago now, feels more like an imminent News bulletin. In it people with uteruses are being prosecuted as murderers for abortions in the United States and there is a literal witch hunt. I was attached to the characters and their particular circumstances. The book felt very real.

#MarvellousMay #Readathon 2nd book read

@Andrew65

Andrew65 Great 👏👏👏 3mo
MicheleinPhilly I read this a few years ago and even then was terrified by how “non dystopian” it seemed. 3mo
Alfoster Yes! Loved it too!❤️👊 3mo
Linsy Oh no, I have been meaning to pick this one up, now worrying if it'll feel too real. 3mo
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Julsmarshall
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Did pretty well on my #January #BookspinBingo ! Read both the #bookspin and #doublespin and 6 bingoes! Just barely missed finishing For the Wolf in time. 13 books off #MountTBR @TheAromaofBooks

TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! Fabulous month!! I'm reading For the Wolf right now! 6mo
Julsmarshall I liked it @TheAromaofBooks but it does take a bit to get through! But worth every minute! 6mo
TheAromaofBooks It's my #LMPBC book for January so I'm a bit behind! However, looks like a snow day tomorrow so hopefully I can get some quality reading time in!! 6mo
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SaintUrsula
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Pickpick

Lots to unpack here about women‘s roles in society. I really loved this, and found it funny that it had an intersection with my interest in polar exploration- that was unexpected!

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HiMyNamesRysha
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Mehso-so

This book. How to I put it? Was intriguing and disappointing. Beautiful and infuriating. Not a one-sitter but interesting enough for me to pick it up daily. Worth it, though.
I'm putting a content rating of Mature for sex and language.
Also a TRIGGER WARNING: in/fertiliy, reproductive rights, abortion

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Julsmarshall
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This strange story follows the lives of 5 women at various stages of their lives coming to terms with a world where women have little agency and their worth is seen only in relation to men or children. While the world encounters a climate crisis, the US focuses on banning women‘s medical procedures. Dark and ominous, this book is well written with an unique format and pace. #Bookspinbingo #roll100 @PuddleJumper #Booked2022 #ecofeminist @Cinfhen

readingjedi I absolutely loved this one ❤ 7mo
Suet624 I have this on my shelf and keep forgetting to read it! Thanks for the reminder. 7mo
PuddleJumper Wahoo! 7mo
Cinfhen Fabulous choice 🙌🏻❣️ 7mo
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Addison_Reads
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#BeginsWith @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Eggs

A dystopian novel where abortion is illegal that I've kept putting off because it felt more like current events than fiction.

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Perfect 👍🏻 7mo
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Julsmarshall
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My #roll100 books, the tagged book is #24 and #49 is Under the Whispering Door. Love the idea for this challenge @PuddleJumper !

PuddleJumper Yay! Hope you enjoy them! 7mo
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Julsmarshall
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My #BFC22 goals include: listen to 3 audiobooks a month while walking/exercising; 10,000 steps a day, weight training twice a week. 2021 was a great year for me health wise and I plan to continue that in 2022. Happy New Year all! @wanderinglynn #BFC

wanderinglynn Great goals! 🙌🏻 7mo
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FelinesAndFelonies
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A timely address of the anti-abortion/anti-woman policies that are spreading across the nation. This book follows five women in the not-so-distant future in an America where abortion is illegal, only couples can adopt, & IVF is not an option. Given the current climate, it is a frightening warning of the future that could lay before us. Uniquely structured, the alternating viewpoints provide a holistic view of the issues of womanhood & fertility.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I remember when I read this one, it might be time for a re-read…sad that it‘s becoming more relevant/timely. 11mo
FelinesAndFelonies @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Reading this book this week could not have been more appropriate timing. It felt maddening, scary, frustrating, & unfortunately, precient. 11mo
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Jaimelire
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Pickpick

Took me a while to get into this one, but once I did I finished it quickly. Unfortunately this novel is uncomfortably too close to current reality.

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I agree… 12mo
Alfoster Soooo true!😱 12mo
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Amiable
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I suppose there are worse ways to spend a Sunday afternoon when your spouse is inside doing homework for his graduate classes. 🤷🏻‍♀️

AlaMich Oh, your pool looks heavenly! 13mo
Amiable @AlaMich With the horrible humidity we‘ve had lately, it‘s one of the few things that‘s keeping me sane right now. 😖 I am an autumn girl —give me a crisp October day over this crap any time! 13mo
AlaMich @Amiable Me too! The humidity saps me of any desire to do anything besides stay in the AC and read. (edited) 13mo
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Amiable
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That feeling you get when you‘ve just finished a book and you‘re debating what to read next and at that exact moment a notification pops up from Libby with the news that a book you‘ve had on hold for weeks is available. And you yell “Yes!!” and pump your fist in the air and feel triumphant like you‘ve somehow been entirely responsible for the exquisite timing of it all. 👍🏼👊🏼👸🏻🦸🏻

Ruthiella That‘s awesome! 😀 13mo
britt_brooke The BEST feeling! 13mo
Amiable @britt_brooke RIGHT?? Like I won a contest that I didn‘t even know I‘d entered. 😀 13mo
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Lesliereadsalot
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Mehso-so

We‘ve got four women in the future where abortion is illegal and only couples can adopt. Not enough character development for me, but an interesting story.

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Amateur.Book.Addict
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Pickpick

Such an amazing read, funny but poignant and sad, I can not recommend this book enough!

readingjedi I loved this one too ❤ 2y
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peanutnine
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This book really hit home in an uncomfortable way. Such a relevant topic in today's world. It probably wasn't the best idea to read during this anxiety-provoking election period, but it made me even more grateful of the outcome. Hopefully our country can avoid this all-too-real dystopian future 😬
Overall it was a wonderful read. I love books that are written from different characters' points of view, yet are all connected.

Nute Welcome to Litsy! It‘s a warm and friendly community. I know that you will enjoy yourself here. I‘m looking forward to getting to know you!🙂 2y
peanutnine @Nute thank you! 🥰 2y
rather_be_reading welcome to litsy 📚☕📚 #litsywelcomewagon 2y
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8little_paws
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Mehso-so

Upon further reflection I am bumping this down a star even more, the language this author used just did not work for me whatsoever, though she certainly did envision a VERY realistic reality if abortions are deemed illegal here again, I could absolutely see this world playing out exactly as written. But I wish I could have connected with the characters.

Megabooks I‘m rereading this later this month. I‘m wondering what I‘ll think. 2y
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8little_paws
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So, review to come and tbh i didn't care for this book, but i did really love it's analysis on the word "important".

MeesesPieces I'm glad I'm not alone! I didn't care for this book either. It was confusing and did not draw me in to like any of the characters. 2y
8little_paws @meesespieces I just couldn't get past the tone of some of the characters--Gin in particular calling everyone “Bitches“ 🙄 and the use of the term “Scabbard“ etc. It was just so overdone. 2y
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Zoes_Human
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#ManicMonday #LetterR @joscho

📖 Red Clocks (Leni Zumas)

💻 Anne Rice

🎬 Rome

🎤 Kenny Rogers

🎼 Running Down a Dream (Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers)

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Mogoeg
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So #LMBC I just started this today and February is over tomorrow - Urp!

I'm really sorry - I've been traveling a lot & traveling light, just carrying my ereader so no actual books. I probably won't finish this until mid-to-late March. I'm sorry about that! I'll send it back and close the circle just as soon as I'm done!

@MeesesPieces @Hazel2019 @Hestapleton

PaperbackPirate My book club almost picked this book this month! I hope you like it! 2y
Hazel2019 I wouldn‘t worry about it. I‘m in the same boat with Waste Tide 😊 2y
JenniferEgnor I loved this book. 2y
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ErraticElle
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Mehso-so

Definitely underwhelmed. This was nothing like I expected it to be. It was written much more like a literary fiction novel than a dystopian in terms of tone and perhaps that threw me. There was nothing overtly bad about it -- though some pieces were unnecessary and/or just plain weird -- but there also wasn't anything really powerful, intriguing, or impactful either. Good concept, but not a good enough execution for my taste.

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Hazel2019
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️ This is one of those books that gets better the more you think about it. It‘s about women, the issues that affect them, and the way society shapes their lives. It‘s dystopian but most of the problems presented here are very real today. I will be re- reading this one in a few months.

Megabooks I loved it too. 3y
Hooked_on_books I loved this one 3y
Zoes_Human This was a book I received from my Brilliant Books subscription and I was thrilled with it. My new one for January is on the way, and I can't wait to see what it is. 3y
Hazel2019 @Zoes_Human I‘ll have to check out that book subscription! 3y
Zoes_Human OMG It's amazing. It's a personalized Book-of-the-Month Club, and they've been sending me great selections! 3y
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Hazel2019
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@MeesesPieces @Hestapleton @Mogoeg started this yesterday and am about a quarter in. So far I‘m really enjoying it. It‘s an interesting writing style with lots to think about. This would make for a great discussion.

Mogoeg @Hazel2019 @MeesesPieces @Hestapleton I'm about halfway done with Scythe and enjoying it a lot! Each book has been so different - I think we did a good job with our Dystopian selections. Really looking forward to Red Clocks too - I think it is set near where I live? 3y
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rather_be_reading
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Bailedbailed

Ok I bailed! 🤦‍♂️ I wanted to like this one so much and I remember there being alot of buzz about this one. It reminded me Handmaids & Vox but it just didnt do it for me. I tried to skim ahead to see if it got better and it just did not. I mean it took 30 pages in to barely find out what was going on! I was so lost!

Come-read-with-me @rather_be_reading Oh no!!! It seemed promising this morning!! 3y
rather_be_reading @Come-read-with-me haha i thought so but nope 👎👎 3y
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rather_be_reading
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Not gonna lie...this is just not catching my attention. Whats the end game?! Been considering bailing. What do you guys think?? Keep going or Dnf??

Andrew65 I did finish this but didn‘t give it a very high rating. (edited) 3y
Amiable Life's too short to force yourself through books you aren't enjoying.
3y
BlackCat13 I agree with @Amiable, life is too short and there are way too many good books to stick with a mediocre one! 3y
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JenniferEgnor I loved this book. 3y
Panic70 I like to switch books before I decide. If I keep passing it over for other books, it just isn‘t the one for me. 3y
TheLibrarian I didn‘t really enjoy this book so if you aren‘t feeling it I‘d bail. 3y
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rather_be_reading
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Book 18 of 2020
#tbrlist

Amor4Libros 18?! Girl, you‘re killing it!! 🙌🏼 3y
maich Wow😍 I'm reading 4th novel. I also read some children books and 1 audiobook. 3y
Bookwm85forever You go!! 3y
diovival 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 3y
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MeesesPieces
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I am so sorry I am running behind on this one! With all the craziness of Christmas and my birthday I got behind in my reading. I‘ll send out as soon as I finish! @Hestapleton @Mogoeg @Hazel2019 I am sooo sorry everyone!

Hestapleton I‘m also running VERY BEHIND. I slump hard at holidays. I‘ll get it out when I can. 3y
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Ubookquitous
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Pickpick

Five women, living in a world where abortion and IVF have been outlawed. Timely, powerful. 2019 no. 10

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WorldsOkayestStepMom
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A novel about an America that has outlawed abortion in any form for all 50 states. The author writes from 4 main perspectives: the biographer, the wife, the daughter, and the mender to weave a powerful narrative. Highly recommend for fans of Atwood's Handmaid's Tale! I definitely want to read more from this author.

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WorldsOkayestStepMom
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Mood. 🤷‍♀️ #MommingAintEasy

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Hestapleton
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Mehso-so

Just finished this #LMPBC and it‘s off to @MeesesPieces tomorrow! It‘s a ⭐️⭐️⭐️ book for me, but still really interesting and I‘m excited to see what everyone thinks!

MeesesPieces @Hestapleton yay can‘t wait to read it! 3y
Hestapleton @MeesesPieces weekend got away from me! I should have it in the mail Wednesday! 3y
MeesesPieces @Hestapleton take your time no worries!! 3y
MeesesPieces @Hestapleton I received the book yesterday!! I‘m so excited to read it! 3y
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BookNAround
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Mehso-so

A US where abortion is illegal, embryos have been granted “personhood,” and single people cannot adopt. Terrifying, right? Zumas doesn‘t quite pull off what she‘s trying to do: address women‘s erasure and their roles in this scary dystopia, but props for trying. Full review at https://booknaround.blogspot.com/2019/10/review-red-clocks-by-leni-zumas.html

KathyWheeler I wanted to like this book a whole lot more than I actually did. I was underwhelmed by it. 3y
BookNAround @KathyWheeler There was so much promise, right?! 3y
KathyWheeler @BookNAround Yes! It was really annoying to me that it didn‘t live up to that promise. Your review on your blog is spot on. (edited) 3y
BookNAround @KathyWheeler Thanks! I love hearing I got it right. 😂 3y
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Zoes_Human
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This examines what it means to be a woman, the struggle to control your life as one, & the accusations we face when we dare to defy the restrictions placed on us. This softly disturbing, near-future dystopia is so utterly contemporary in its feel and the single, devastating change to law so realistic that it leaves you unsettled as does the quiet sound in the night that you aren't quite sure you really heard but can't stop listening for.

Come-read-with-me @Zoes_human I‘ve heard great things about this book. Thanks for the wonderful review! 3y
Hooked_on_books Excellent review. You really captured this book. I loved it and found it so chilling for the exact reasons you detail. 3y
Zoes_Human @Come-read-with-me Thank you so much! 3y
Zoes_Human @Hooked_on_books Thank you! I suspect that some of the folks who don't like it, may have disliked it because it is too disturbingly possible. In most dystopias, you can separate yourself a bit because it's not quite possible or it's possible but far away from now. 3y
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Zoes_Human
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“Have you ever considered ... how much time has been stolen from the lives of girls and women due to agonizing over their appearance? ... How many minutes, hours, months, even actual years, of their lives do girls and women waste in agonizing? And how many billions of dollars of corporate profit are made as a result?”

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rachelm
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This was worth waiting for. A well woven narrative, a lot to think about here about women, bodies, choices we make and choices that are made for us. I‘ll be checking out Zumas‘ other work for sure.

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Zoes_Human
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1. Tagged plus Best of the Best Volume 2: 20 Years of the Best Short Science Fiction Novels, Nine Perfect Strangers by Liane Moriarty, ¡Vamos a leer!, The Scar by China Miéville, Favorite Poems, and The Complete Works by William Shakespeare

2. “It is clammy and springy, like a hard-cooked egg.“ (from tagged book)

3. Homemade hot chocolate with cayenne

@rachelsbrittain #weekendreads

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rachelm
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#weeklyforecast is looking good! I accomplished most of the goals from last week, except to get to my ARC reading (need to do that!!)

Plans:
📕Finish Invisible Cities
📖Start A Good Neighborhood

🔈Finish Red Clocks
🔈Continue Wanderers

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rachelm
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I‘m crazy busy this weekend but trying to get as many hours of reading and listening in as I can. I‘m already five hours into this and just started yesterday. I have so many thoughts. Loving it so far.

Megabooks I love this book! 3y
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Soubhiville
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I liked this a lot! The audio narrators were excellent. I really connected with the topic and the characters, especially Gin. I‘ll be recommending this one!

ChasingOm I didn‘t get into this one in print, maybe I should try the audio... 🤔 3y
Hooked_on_books I‘m so glad you liked this! I loved this one. I read it in print and thought it was chillingly real. 3y
rachelm Just started this on audio and I‘m already hooked 3y
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Zoes_Human
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It‘s here! It‘s here! My latest Brilliant Books Subscription book is here, and it totally looks like my kind of story!

readingjedi I absolutely adored this book - enjoy! 3y
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BarbaraBB
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Told from the perspective of four women, Red Clocks re-imagines what the US would be like if abortion was once again illegal and criminalized while also outlawing single parents from adopting. The women in this novel each deal with this new reality in different ways. Zumas did a good job in creating four wildly different characters whose paths cross and who all in their own way are so strong and authentic.

rambiepaige This is such a great book! ❤️ 3y
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Hestapleton
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Hazel2019 Yes! 3y
Mogoeg Yes! Thank you! 3y
MeesesPieces @yes awesome thank you! 3y
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Hazel2019 @Mogoeg @Hestapleton @MeesesPieces hi! For those of you that have done this before...when we send the book on at the end of the month what‘s the expectation...send just the book?, throw something else in? I was looking at some other posts and couldn‘t figure that part out hmm 🤔 3y
Hestapleton @Hazel2019 it varies! I usually send just the book because money is tight and I‘m usually late in sending it lol. But I‘ve been sent socks and post its, just little trinkets. Totally up to you! 3y
Hazel2019 Thanks @Hestapleton Makes sense. 3y
MeesesPieces I‘ve received little trinkets like candy or bookmarks. I usually throw a little something in for the first time. But it‘s really up to you. Just sending the book is fine also 😊 3y
MeesesPieces @Hazel2019 @Hestapleton @Mogoeg I sent you all a library book pouch thingy for your books through snail mail. 😊I also sent an email about it but I‘m unsure if you received it because I didn‘t hear anything. No worries if you didn‘t. Just wanted to let you know 😊 3y
Hazel2019 @MeesesPieces @Hestapleton @Mogoeg can‘t wait for the library book pouch! I‘m all done reading my book at this point (it‘s under 300 pages). How much do you guys mark up? I didn‘t really mark up a ton. 3y
Hestapleton @Hazel2019 I just mark up anything that sticks out to me that‘s funny or interesting or worth taking about. Some books it‘s more than others. Follow your heart. :) 3y
MeesesPieces @Hazel2019 I do exactly what @Hestapleton does as well! 😊 3y
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BookNAround
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From dog poems to feminist dystopia, my reading is a little all over the place this weekend.

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The.Intentional.Reader
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Nothing like a little dystopia for Tuesday. Just what the doctor ordered.

Megabooks Great book!! 3y
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Mindyrecycles
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May finishes. I loved Dolphins, Fahrenheit, Red Clocks, and Marriage. Outsiders and Meditations were okay. #thisisit #amonthofsongs #gilmoregirlsreadingchallenge #bookclub

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wallacereads
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I had a coupon for Value Village so of course I had to use it!

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Amandajoy
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Question. Which of these is most likely to keep me awake and entertained on my night shift tonight?

NamasteReading they look so beautiful. OMG 🥰😍 3y
Traci1 I haven't read the other two, but I thought Hope Never Dies was tons of fun. 3y
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NeamhainHughes
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I read this book in one day, which is kind of a big deal with my ADHD and busy life. It was intense, but good. The ending was not cliche or easy or tidy but I really loved the way she tied everything together and ended the story. And the characters, just wow. I aspire to write characters this compelling and flawed and real and unique.

CoffeeNBooks Welcome to Litsy! 📚 3y
Eggs Welcome to Litsy 🤗🌸 3y
NeamhainHughes Thank you!! 3y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Welcome to Litsy!! 3y
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