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Under the Banner of Heaven
Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith | Jon Krakauer
Jon Krakauers literary reputation rests on insightful chronicles of lives conducted at the outer limits. He now shifts his focus from extremes of physical adventure to extremes of religious belief within our own borders, taking readers inside isolated American communities where some 40,000 Mormon Fundamentalists still practice polygamy. Defying both civil authorities and the Mormon establishment in Salt Lake City, the renegade leaders of these Taliban-like theocracies are zealots who answer only to God.At the core of Krakauers book are brothers Ron and Dan Lafferty, who insist they received a commandment from God to kill a blameless woman and her baby girl. Beginning with a meticulously researched account of this appalling double murder, Krakauer constructs a multi-layered, bone-chilling narrative of messianic delusion, polygamy, savage violence, and unyielding faith. Along the way he uncovers a shadowy offshoot of Americas fastest growing religion, and raises provocative questions about the nature of religious belief.From the Trade Paperback edition.
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MsLeah8417

Whoa!!!!!

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cherinium
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I got confetti! 🥳🥳 I officially completed my Goodreads challenge of 75 books with this intriguing nonfiction book. I was fascinated by the true crime and fanaticism within the FLDS church that was examined by Krakauer. The history covered and trying to keep the many characters straight was sometimes a slog, but if you enjoy reading about religion, cults, or true crime, be sure to give this one a whirl. #goodreadschallenge #goalcompleted #success

BarbaraBB A fascinating book indeed! I didn‘t get confetti this year after reaching my GR goal ☺️ 1mo
JoScho 🥳💜🥳💜🥳 1mo
cherinium @BarbaraBB That's strange--I wonder why? 1mo
BarbaraBB @cherinium Maybe they were not impressed 😉 1mo
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cherinium
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Enjoying a rainy morning at a friend's house in NC with my new friend Walter. This book is fascinating. #dogsoflitsy #vacation #rainyday #gooddaytoread #nonfiction #religion

BarbaraBB Such a fascinating read indeed! 2mo
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I am very much a mood reader but in order to meet my goals by year end a little bit of planning might be in order. These are my 4 must reads for September. Two for #LitsyAtoZ Rose Under Fire and Under the Banner which also checks my non fiction box. Little Women for my classic pic and Wunderland for #LMPBC. I have a great reading month ahead. What will you be reading?

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As I read this book, the two words that ricocheted through my thoughts were “horrifying” & “heartbreaking.” At the end now, there are other words too. Krakauer is an excellent writer adept at plumbing the highs & lows of the human condition & it‘s impossible not to have a strong reaction to the story he tells—of the murders of Brenda Lafferty & her infant daughter Erica & the path her killers, her brothers-in-law, took to get to that moment.

SpaceCowboyBooks This book was horrifying but also hard to put down. 4mo
TracyReadsBooks @SpaceCowboyBooks Totally agree. (edited) 4mo
Cinfhen Great review! Need to get to this book 4mo
MicrobeMom This one still haunts me to this day and I read it 10 years ago! 4mo
TracyReadsBooks @MicrobeMom Yeah, I think this one is going to take some time to fully process. 4mo
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Next up...

MicrobeMom This book had a profound effect on me. 4mo
Crazeedi I have a hold on this one 4mo
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CocoReads
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#bookhaul post one the Krakauer is in really good condition, the Karin Slaughter is slightly beat up and the others I‘m just taking a chance on

Crazeedi I want to read under the banner of heaven! 4mo
CocoReads @Crazeedi I‘ve been wanting to read it for awhile so I was excited to find it! 4mo
justanothermusing The good daughter is so good they may have read it over and over. 4mo
CocoReads That‘s what I thought too. It actually looks a little water warped so I was thinking in the tub, on the boat, on the beach.... 4mo
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squirrelbrain
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I couldn‘t decide whether to give this a pick or a so-so. Clearly the subject matter (polygamy, rape, incest in the name of religion) makes it a difficult read but I also found some of the historical elements about Latter Day Saints rather dry.

However, as it‘s so important that we know about these issues, I‘ve gone with a pick; it‘s a necessary book to read.

Eggs Your review is spot on in my opinion 5mo
Kdgordon88 This is my U pick for #LitsyAtoZ. I keep bypassing it when it‘s time to choose the next book but the year is half over so I need to get it read. Just haven‘t felt in the right headspace to tackle it yet. 5mo
squirrelbrain @Kdgordon88 , yes it‘s a hard one to read. If you can read more than one book at once, then I‘d do that. Dip in and out of this one, while reading something a bit lighter at the same time. (edited) 5mo
Kdgordon88 Good advice! Thank you! (edited) 5mo
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A well-researched history of the LDS and FLDS churches bracketed by the murders committed by two Fundamentalists, this book is very good for what it is. However, I was expecting (and wanted) a true crime book, so it was a bit of a challenge for me to push through. Don‘t miss the author note and appendix at the end.

#bannerbuddy

squirrelbrain I found some of this book a challenge too, and not just because of the difficult subject matter. I *will* post my review soon.... 5mo
BarbaraBB I did miss the appendix. Will get back to it! 5mo
Hooked_on_books @BarbaraBB The LDS church got an ARC before publication and were not happy with his book (since they didn‘t get to control it). They published a nasty review of it. The appendix is their review and his rebuttal. It‘s interesting. 5mo
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BarbaraBB
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This is not about religion, fundamentalist Mormonism (FLDS) is about frustrated white men abusing women and children. I knew nothing about it, LDS is no big thing in my country but I am really shocked. And upset and angry. That is, if Krakauer used a balanced hand while writing. I tend to believe all he says, but maybe I shouldn‘t? What do you think, fellow buddy readers?

#bannerbuddy #ReadingUSA2019 #Utah

bookandcat I have read part of this book (haven't finished it yet) but did read other books about FLDS. Warren Jeffs was incredibly abusive and so were many in his and similar communities. Even members of other offshoot communities of LDS will say so. Krakauer tends to be a very fair reporter in his writing, even about controversial subjects. It's heartbreaking. 5mo
cathysaid I'm a little obsessed with the FLDS and other “fringe“ (for lack of a better word) religions. Based on the books I have read, I completely believe this is true. Read anything about Warren Jeffs and you might be surprised. Memoirs by women who have managed to escape FLDS are especially frightening. I am sure there are kind and loving people in the FLDS but man do they also have some screwed up members! (edited) 5mo
Tove_Reads Oh good old Brigham Young with his 55 wives... To become a state they officially had to get rid of polygamy in Utah. 5mo
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marleed I read this a long time ago but have always kept the book. He did an excellent job in reporting this story. I‘m thinking at the time I read this Warren Jeffs still had some legitimacy which now seems unimaginable. 5mo
MicheleinPhilly I still have to start it. 🤦🏻‍♀️ It‘s been a busy week. ☹️ 5mo
Stacy_31 I‘m only a few chapters in, as we just returned from vacation on Sunday. But from what I‘ve read, Krakauer is pretty spot-on. Last year, I read Carolyn Jessop‘s memoir, Escape, in which she escaped LDS with her children. Some of them were so indoctrinated at their young ages, that they were angry with her for leaving. 😢. I‘m sure there are good people in the religion, but there seems to be an incredible amount of brainwashing involved. (edited) 5mo
Aimeesue My mom and her husband are LDS. The whole religion is weird, but maybe that's to be expected when you base it on angel- endowed golden plates that you need special glasses to read, which then disappear after good ol' Joe read them. It's the underwear that kills me, though. Well, that and the entrenched gender roles that the religion is built to reinforce and support. 5mo
BarbaraBB @cathysaid I understand that obsession. I know @britt_brooke has been too. I am completely blown away about what‘s happening TODAY! 5mo
BarbaraBB @bookandcat I think and hope FLDS is completely different from LDS. It must be hard for LDS to be associated with people like Warren Jeffs, Brigham Young and the Lafferty brothers. @Tove_Reads 5mo
BarbaraBB @marleed I hope it is unimaginable. I doubt everything after finishing this book 😳 5mo
BarbaraBB @MicheleinPhilly @Stacy_31 I will be following what you‘ll think! 💜 5mo
BarbaraBB @Aimeesue Please tell me more about the underwear 😂😉! Seriously though, your mother turned LDS after meeting her husband? You weren‘t brought up that way? I am fascinated I have to admit, and I hope the differences between LDS and FLDS are huge! 5mo
Hooked_on_books I‘m about halfway through, and everyone in this book is nuts! I love the terribly convenient “revelations.” 🙄 Every fundamentalist religion is frightening and about control, but I see a lot of control in LDS as well given the low status of women. I‘ve wanted to throw this book several times but nothing in it truly surprises me. I live in a fucked up country. 😕 5mo
BarbaraBB @Hooked_on_books Is that so, that women have a low status in LDS as well? Why is it so popular then? Your country is so weird sometimes I really don‘t understand it at all! 5mo
bookandcat @BarbaraBB yes, LDS is mainstream Mormonism. FLDS is one kind of offshoot that takes some of the original Joseph Smith principles more literally and extremely. LDS has disowned FLDS and other offshoots. However, if you want a very, very irreverent explanation of the history/founding of Church of LDS, check out Season 7 Episode 12 of South Park (All About Mormons). It's a musical episode. 5mo
Aimeesue @BarbaraBB Yes, she joined with her husband. I was definitely NOT brought up LDS. Almost the exact opposite - I was brought up in the progressive United Church of Christ, but am now an atheist and a Unitarian Universalist. Yes, I am an atheist who goes to church! 😄 (edited) 5mo
britt_brooke @BarbaraBB Mainstream LDS is way different than FLDS, but it‘s still an odd religion, IMO. I lived in Salt Lake City for a couple of years and know several Mormons where I live now and there are definitely some weird rules. My female friends don‘t wear the “underwear” but some of the men do. As an atheist myself, I find any type of ritualistic stuff completely bizarre. FLDS is a whole other whacked out, completely subservient, mind fuck. 5mo
britt_brooke @BarbaraBB There are several books out there about the Arizona/Utah border towns and the Yearning for Zion compound in Texas all controlled by pedophile and complete sociopath Warren Jeffs. I also recommend the documentary “Prophet‘s Prey.” It‘s based on a book of the same name. (edited) 5mo
Rachel_nyc @bookandcat 🤣🤣🤣I love that episode! 5mo
Rachel_nyc I too tend to trust Krakauer‘s journalism. As others have already stated, FLDS is completely different and like most fundamentalist offshoots, they are their own brand of crazy! I don‘t know a whole lot about LDS but it is definitely a quirky religion. The underwear mentioned is super weird but the simple rule of no alcohol or caffeine is enough for me to give it a big NO from me! 5mo
Librarybelle I‘ve found the comments from the buddy readers to be interesting - I haven‘t read this yet. Sounds like a shocking read! 5mo
BarbaraBB @bookandcat Thanks you for the South Park suggestion! I will definitely watch! 5mo
BarbaraBB @Aimeesue The underwear is a big thing! I had no idea! It must be hard to see your mother make such extreme choices. And I love that your an atheïst going to church. Thanks for your story ? 5mo
BarbaraBB @britt_brooke Thank you, I‘ll look out for Prophet‘s Prey. It sounds so scary. As do those FLDS communities in Arizona/Utah. 5mo
BarbaraBB @Rachel_nyc All those rules scare me off! 5mo
Hooked_on_books @BarbaraBB You and me both! The book went a little ways into the lower status of women in LDS: all men are automatically in the “priesthood” but women are not allowed, women are measured by how many children they have and are encouraged not to work outside the home. I chafe at those forms of control. 5mo
Tove_Reads Been meaning to read this book for years. Finally placed a hold and will get it soon! 5mo
Tove_Reads We have this odd religion here with 100 000 followers. Naturally the only ones going to heaven... They have 10+ kids, women are birthing machines. No alcohol, TV, music (unless it‘s psalms), dancing, makeup etc. internet and smoking are OK. Men rule and women obey. Our former PM belongs to an offshoot of this movement. (edited) 5mo
BarbaraBB @Tove_Reads LDS too or another cult? It does sound ridiculous too! 5mo
Tove_Reads It‘s a separate one. Almost all live in Finland, some in Sweden and the U.S. They are Lutherans, but have formed their own movement far from what Protestants normally are. We have LDS all over the country, but I doubt FLDS could ever officially be a religion here. 5mo
BarbaraBB @Tove_Reads It sounds fascinating, I need to Google that! 5mo
BarbaraBB @Tove_Reads Thanks for posting. Unreal!! 5mo
JaclynW I do think Krakauer does his journalistic duty to provide facts. As many stated above, there are several crazy (and honestly very sad) stories stemming from fundamentalist religions. There are many such stories here in Utah with the FLDS. Also from the LDS mainstream too.⬇️ 5mo
JaclynW In Utah, we have a high rate of suicides in the state as well as prescriptions for anti-depressants/anti-anxiety medications. Some say the LDS religion is at the root. This culture is an interesting one to live in. It's very narrow minded and judgmental. You basically have one path to follow. One role to fufill.⬇️
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JaclynW While in Utah, you REALLY must visit Temple Square. Go through all of the buildings. They do a great job explaining their beliefs and practices. It will give you a good peek into this religion. It is really quite fascinating. They'd also be happy to send missionaries to your door for more detailed lessons.😉😆 ⬇️ 5mo
JaclynW For a (Utah) counter culture experience, get tickets to Saturday's Voyeur from the Salt Lake Acting Company while you are in SLC. It is an excellent show that pokes fun at the quirks of "the church" (that's what everyone here calls the LDS church), Utah culture/politics and it stabs at big issues that need to be addressed here. Tgis show is definitely worth going to. They do a new version of this show every summer, so if you miss it, come back!⬇️ 5mo
JaclynW I've lived in Utah all my life. I've had several experiences with "the church" and its' followers - many not pleasant. Personally, I think there are a lot of abuses going on in the mainstream LDS religion too (not just FLDS). The people in it, of course, would disagree with me. I think overall they are great people just trying to live their best life like everyone else - unfortunately they are often very close minded. I could go on and on. ⬇️ 5mo
JaclynW I feel justified in saying all of this because I used to be a Mormon. I know all sides of this coin. I left because I could see the abuses, I no longer believed in several of its' teachings, I didn't like who I was becoming and I couldn't bring myself to raise my children in it. (Which by the way, they don't like to be called Mormons any more. They want to be referred to as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.) ⬇️ 5mo
JaclynW I'm glad you read the book! Enjoy your time in our beautiful state of Utah! Let me know how it goes. 😊 5mo
BarbaraBB Wow, thanks for your story. There is so much more to it, to this religion and all that‘s behind it. It‘s all so new to me. We‘ll be in SLC on Pioneers Day, that will be impressive I guess. I don‘t know if tours through the Temple will be possible then however. 5mo
jamicuns I am a Mormon (yes, we aren‘t suppose to call ourselves that anymore but I do a lot of things that we aren‘t suppose to do. 😉😂) and I read half of this book. I didn‘t find his reporting to be false or hyperbolic, but I did find it a bit too narrow. I wish he didn‘t just focus on Mormon fundamentalists. I felt his thesis was dangerous things can happen when someone takes their religious creeds too far and become extremists, no matter the religion 5mo
jamicuns I think his anticipated demographics are Christians but by focusing solely on Mormonism he gave Christians an out by thinking their religion is exempt bc Mormons aren‘t Christians in their eyes. I live in the Bible Belt and so I‘m fully aware of how many Christians view Mormons and we are definitely not Christians to them. I don‘t say that contentiously, I promise. 😀 (edited) 5mo
jamicuns I wish he would have used multiple examples of extremists from different Christian sects to get his point across instead of focusing solely on one religion. I hope my comments make sense. Also hope you enjoyed Salt Lake City. I was born there and visit often. It‘s a lovely, yet quirky, city. 5mo
BarbaraBB @jamicuns Thank you for replying. I definitely see your point in that Krakauer solely focuses on FLDS while there are other extreme Christian sects too. Do you have to defend your religion often, even as a less-strict Mormon? My visit to SLC is still upcoming. I am looking forward to it, I expect to learn a bit more about LDS, a religion I know so little about (except for what is said about it in this book). 5mo
jamicuns @BarbaraBB I had to defend my religion a lot growing up. It never really bothered me bc most of the questions/accusations were based off misinformation and so I loved setting the record straight. As an adult, I still have to clear up misinformation but it doesn‘t feel like having to defend anything so that‘s an improvement. Enjoy SLC and definitely visit temple square if you are interested in learning more. 😀 5mo
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Page 15, about Mormon fundamentalists.

Property.

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If it get through this book without throwing it, it will be a miracle.

#bannerbuddy

Soubhiville Ugh. 5mo
BarbaraBB Horrible. This book makes me furious. I can‘t believe it‘s not fiction what I‘m reading. How can this be happening right now?! 5mo
squirrelbrain I‘ve actually finished the book now but haven‘t reviewed it as yet as I don‘t really know how to... 😬 5mo
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Hooked_on_books @BarbaraBB I‘ve been thinking the same thing. If it were fiction, I would find it so ridiculous and over the top that I probably would bail. Isn‘t that interesting? 5mo
Hooked_on_books @squirrelbrain I think I may have to read in shorter bursts because I keep getting angry at the book. I‘m impressed that you‘ve finished already. I look forward to your (eventual) review! 5mo
BarbaraBB @squirrelbrain I can understand. How to review this?! 😳 5mo
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The weekend has started and with it the Banner Buddyread. Let‘s try to finish this one this week and share our thoughts with hashtag #bannerbuddy. If you wanna join us, do so!

I just read the prologue (I didn‘t know the story) and Googled Dan Lafferty. Scary man!

MicheleinPhilly What‘s the schedule? Should we just read the whole book this week and discuss next weekend? 5mo
BarbaraBB Sounds good to me. I will be travelling though next weekend so not sure if I will be able to join the discussion. 5mo
Rachel_nyc I read this book years ago but found it fascinating (and disturbing). Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. 5mo
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vivastory I'm really looking forward to reading this one. I'm definitely in the mood for some great nonfiction. 5mo
squirrelbrain I‘ve just arrived at our campsite for the next week... nearly finished setting up so will be able to start soon.... 5mo
Hooked_on_books Yikes, he‘s creepy! I‘ll be starting tomorrow. I haven‘t yet finished my buddy read pages for a different book for discussion tomorrow. 🙄 5mo
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Savugirl
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History and True Crime - 2 of my favorite genres

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Mike.Hall
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I found it to be a very good book, I learned a lot from this book about the Morman church and the history of it. A lot of disturbing things going on in the FLDS, and this book is very good at describing how things got to that point.

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Meh. He was way too all over the place for me. I was thinking it was a true crime book, but really that wasn't his intention. My bad.

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EmilieGR
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Reads like fiction! Unbelievable

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Sace
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A colleague was raving about this at work and I remembered that I had the audio book.

ravenlee I read this when it was new and found it fascinating. I tried it again last year and couldn‘t do it. Maybe because now I‘m a mother and the stuff about what those kids went/go through, but I quit pretty early on. 7mo
Sace @ravenlee I'm really interested in the history of the church parts. 7mo
VanChocStrawberry @RestlessFickleBookHoarder I found this whole book fascinating, but esp those parts. The birth of this movement/church/sect=whoa. 7mo
Sace @VanChocStrawberry my colleague who reading it is a history teacher and he's convinced Joseph Smith is a conman. 7mo
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I went to our local library‘s book sale last night. Things went well. Do you like going to library book sales?

Naj Great haul! 8mo
Soubhiville I love them! 8mo
Sweetkokoro I went to my first one two weekends ago and I loved it! Now I‘m waiting for the next one but it‘s hard to find Info on library book sales in my area. 8mo
Sweetkokoro @mreads yes I am in the US, thank you so much for this site! It has the last sale I went to posted on it so I can for sure use it to track others, thank you so much! 8mo
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#psychokiller | In 1984, Fundamentalist Mormons Ron and Dan Lafferty brutally murdered their sister-in-law and her baby because of a “Removal Revelation” from God. It‘s an insane story. In this book, Krakauer discusses the crime while providing a history of Mormon religion. This was the beginning of my obsession with the LDS, especially fundamentalists.

#marchintothe70s

Cinfhen I‘ve seen so many mixed reviews about this one. But I‘m still such a fan of Krakauer‘s writing that I think I need to give it a try. 9mo
britt_brooke @Cinfhen It‘s been several years since I‘ve read it, but I think some people get bogged down by the LDS history. (edited) 9mo
Lizpixie This has been on my list forever, I‘ll have to move it up with this review! 9mo
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britt_brooke @Lizpixie It‘s a good read. I found the Mormon history fascinating. These brothers, and their rationale, are completely batshit. 9mo
Lizpixie People can use religion to justify all sorts of horrible things unfortunately.🤷🏻‍♀️ 9mo
britt_brooke @Lizpixie It‘s mind boggling, but true. 😔 9mo
Hooked_on_books I have this one! Krakauer is so good. I look forward to reading it soon(er) now. 9mo
britt_brooke @Hooked_on_books He‘s one of my favorite nf authors for sure. This is a good read! 9mo
gradcat I loved this book, if I might add my opinion. 9mo
KarynGood It is totally mind boggling! Just saw a play called Gracie that tells the story of a young girl whose mother brings her and siblings across the border into Canada so the mother can marry the leader of an FDLS sect in BC. 9mo
britt_brooke @gradcat Absolutely! I thought it was great, too. 9mo
britt_brooke @KarynGood All of the FLDS stuff blows my mind. 9mo
gradcat @britt_brooke I‘m a huge fan of Krakauer‘s... @Cinfhen @Lizpixie I don‘t think you can go wrong with this book. 9mo
Cinfhen I just saw a copy on sale...,thanks @gradcat think I‘ll go ahead & order it 9mo
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I don‘t think Krakauer hates Mormonism, I think he hates all religion. Which is fine, he has a very objective perspective that comes through in his writing.

I got a very creepy vibe from everything chronicled in this book but I did climb Mt. Everest with Krakauer when I read Into Thin Air.

Cinfhen I‘m curious about this book. I usually enjoy his writing style but I‘ve heard this book is his “weakest”. 9mo
heyitsMacall @cinfhen it definitely read more like a textbook for a lot of it but he included a ton of information 9mo
Cinfhen Ugh!! That‘s off putting😩Maybe I‘ll wait and not rush to read this one. Thanks for the heads up 9mo
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Eggs
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Apparently I posted January 31 prompt (Omar Sharif) instead of today's😧Carrying the Banner
#carryingthebanner #musicalnewyear @Cinfhen @vivastory This was the first banner that came to mind-a double murder committed by 2 Mormon fundamentalists

Cinfhen Still on my TBR xx and u just gave us a preview earlier today ❤️ 10mo
vivastory I've been wanting to read more Krakauer since reading & loving Into Thin Air 10mo
MandellaL I enjoyed his book Into the Wild and even taught it with a 12th grade class once. Others I've talked to either ❤️ or hate it, but I thought it was worth a read. Would like to read more Krakauer as well 10mo
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Reagan-reads I read Into Thin Air and never stopped reading Jon Krakauer. This book was astounding. 10mo
Cathythoughts I was thinking of this one too. I havnt read. But I thought The 19th wife an excellent book 👍🏻 10mo
Eggs @Cinfhen 😘 10mo
Eggs @vivastory There are several other Krakauers worth reading! Another mountain-climbing related one: 10mo
Eggs @MandellaL Wonderful!! 10mo
Eggs @Reagan-reads There are some I haven't read yet. Recommendations? 10mo
Eggs @Cathythoughts Sounds interesting 10mo
Reagan-reads @Eggs Into Thin Air is my personal favourite but I can honestly say, I have never been disappointed. I don‘t think you can go wrong. 10mo
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Marni
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Book 5/18. Had this on my TBR for almost 10 years. It was interesting, but didn‘t captivate me the way I had anticipated it would. #nonfiction #fundamentalistmormons #read2019 #virtualmountTBR2019 #bookly #audiobook

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HotMessJess
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Found this gem from NYE and couldn‘t help but share- Pepperjack was not thrilled with fireworks and celebrations 😂 #TheFrugLife #DogsofLitsy

ferskner Pepperjack!? 😍😍😍 11mo
HotMessJess @ferskner Pepperjack the frug! (He‘s half frenchie half pug) and his sister (yellow lab) is named Mozzarella! 11mo
LauraBeth Pepperjack is the cutest name ever 😍 11mo
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ferskner I love them!!!! 11mo
ErickaS_Flyleafunfurled Jack 😘😘😘 11mo
Megabooks Awww! 🥰🥰 11mo
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HotMessJess
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2019: my year of DRASTIC CHANGE. I wrote today. I‘m writing tomorrow. I‘m setting intention for this baby (who is due in 20 days- suit up wine! 🍷🍷🍷) and for myself this year. Even though I know my life is about to get ridiculously chaotic, I‘m going to stay as true to myself as possible. Here is to a great year, I‘m feeling more positive than I have in 5 years and hope you are too 🎉

http://booknerdwilltravel.com/2019/01/04/newyearoldme/

Megabooks Fantastic! I‘m feeling the same way too 😊👍🏻 11mo
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I really wanted to like this book, but honestly the author is so biased against Mormonism as a whole and it comes through in the writing (like victim-blaming Elizabeth Smart at one point). Even if you‘re not a fan of the Church, those little comments and embellishments sour the whole story, which is shame because it is interesting (and terrifying).

JennyM Welcome to Litsy. Hope you enjoy it here. 🥳 11mo
DrHodgdon @JennyM thank you! Getting used to the site :) 11mo
JennyM Have a look at @LitsyHappenings - lots of monthly photo challenges, reading challenges, buddy reads and swaps. 😊 11mo
Texreader That‘s so disappointing. Sounds like a good topic but I‘d hate that attitude too 11mo
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HotMessJess
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2AM wake up calls. Will I ever sleep again?! Get this baby out of me #36weeks #IwantHotMessJessback

JacqMac I remember those days. You will sleep again. Give it 20 years or so. Lol 11mo
Reviewsbylola Omg I swear I didn‘t sleep during either of my third trimesters. It‘s the worst. Godspeed! 11mo
HotMessJess @Reviewsbylola ah how did you do this twice?! My husband and I decided 1/4 of the way through that we never want me to be pregnant again!! 😂 11mo
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Reviewsbylola I had a horrible labor for my first, and I decided the second she came out I would never, ever do it again. 😂 It‘s amazing how quickly that resolve fails. I got pregnant with my second right after my first turned one. 🤣🤣 11mo
Reviewsbylola And ftr, I would do it again but my husband is team no more! 🤣🤣 11mo
HotMessJess @Reviewsbylola I don‘t think I could handle another one! Power to the women who have more than one because I‘m one and done hahaha! 11mo
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Just some light pre-kid reading 😬😬😬. I can almost TASTE the first beer I‘m going to drink when B makes his grand entrance! 35 days to go!

KathyWheeler I loved this book. 12mo
JennyM Eekkkkk....nearly there 😊 12mo
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gradcat
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1. Under the Banner of Heaven/Jon Krakauer 🌫🌫
2. John Updike 🐇 🐰
3. Movie: Up ⬆️; TV Show: Underbelly 🇳🇿👮🏻‍♀️👮🏼‍♂️
4. Uttapam 😋
#ManicMonday
#LetterU
@JoScho

JoScho Thanks for playing 💕😊 12mo
Trashcanman Reserved for your soul. 12mo
gradcat @Trashcanman Thank you for reserving for my soul. You are a very sweet fella, aren‘t you? 12mo
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gradcat @Trashcanman Hey! You changed your photo!! What gives? 12mo
Trashcanman @gradcat I'm on the spiral. 12mo
gradcat @Trashcanman Is that a good thing or a bad thing? 12mo
Trashcanman @gradcat I don't know any longer. 12mo
gradcat @Trashcanman I hope you are okay, please be okay. You make my days brighter! 12mo
Trashcanman @gradcat I very much doubt that. I'm not okay. I said from the beginning I'm not worth knowing. I am withering. I am a shell of a human. 12mo
Trashcanman I am truly sorry to burden you with this. 12mo
gradcat @Trashcanman And I keep telling you that you are NOT burdening me. Your posts & tags always make me smile...your style is very open & friendly...I happen to like that. I like your taste in music. I want you to hang out & post & tag often! 🥰🥰 12mo
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Suet624
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I listened to 1/2 of it and let the Libby app take it back after 14 days. I‘m so tired of hearing about religions dictating ridiculous ways to live. I‘m tired of hearing how Mormon women and children are treated and I can‘t understand why they agree to live in such subservient roles. Polygamy and the scores of children fathered by one man? Ugh. And death to a woman who questions things. Well written but just too much for me.

britt_brooke This is the book that began my obsession with the FLDS (and my love for Krakauer). 13mo
Suet624 @britt_brooke I love Krakauer. I have grown to really dislike the FLDS. 13mo
britt_brooke @Suet624 They make me sad. It‘s hard to believe that people in this country live that way. 13mo
Suet624 @britt_brooke it bothers me that women and children live this way, many of them willingly. Also the fact that so many of the plural wives live off taxpayer money. (edited) 13mo
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callielafleur
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This was pretty great, though I have to say I found Into Thin Air more compelling. A look at the Fundamentalist Mormon church and it's violent history. I always enjoy the appendices from Krakauer, where he argues point by point criticisms of his work. Makes it worth it to wait awhile after his books are published, so you can get the later editions. 3.5 stars, rounded up to 4.

Pictured also is Porter, who was my companion all day. 🐶

tammysue ❤️🐾 1y
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callielafleur
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While the rest of the fam went shopping at the LL Bean mothership today, I decided to stay behind. Finishing this one up on this on-again, off-again stormy beach day. #vacationreading

mrsmarch There‘s a fabulous British shop across the street from LLB. Just sayin‘. 1y
callielafleur @mrsmarch Oh I've been many times, believe me! But a quiet house with just my book and the doggo keeping me company was just too sweet a proposition. 1y
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Christine11
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Thank you so much @ShookBelf for sending the next lmpbc book and for all the lovely extras! It‘s really kind of you and I‘ve been wanting to read Under The Banner Of Heaven for ages! I was away this week so only opened it last night - it was a lovely treat to come home from a holiday to! Thank you 😊

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Jadams1776
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I don‘t want to say I enjoyed this because there was so much heavy stuff, so I‘ll say it was really good. It is definitely a thought-provoking read.

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emilyhaldi
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Wow is this book thorough! It explores the roots and history of Mormonism including the concept of Polygamy and it‘s repercussions. Joseph Smith wasn‘t originally supportive of plural marriage until God spoke to him one day and gave him that direction... after that he was all #IdoIdoIdoIdoIdo 👰🏼 👰🏼👰🏼 And later, god spoke to the Lafferty brothers and directed them to murder 🔪 was it lunacy, or just religion??
#ABBAinApril

Reviewsbylola This definitely is probably too thorough for me. 1y
Meredith3 I like the sound of this book! Murder and polygamy? What else do you really need? 1y
emilyhaldi @Reviewsbylola @Meredith3 the premise is great but it's SO DENSE that by the end you're like "can we just talk about the murder already?!" 1y
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Meredith3 @emilyhaldi oooh eeek yeah that‘s a little off putting 1y
britt_brooke I enjoyed the explanation of the LDS and FLDS history more that the true crime aspect of this one, but can definitely see what you mean by it being dense/thorough. 1y
BarbaraBB Are you done now with the books on Mormonism or do you have the next one ready to start 😉?! 1y
Cinfhen So it was a little dry!?! Would u recommend?? 1y
emilyhaldi Lol @BarbaraBB I have to get on @britt_brooke rec's fast!! @Cinfhen I'm pretty sure it would bore you ... Def a #borrownotbuy 1y
Cinfhen I‘ve removed from my #TBR 1y
Cathythoughts Interesting! I did like The 19th Wife. But won‘t be rushing to read this one 👍🏻 1y
Reggie Your use of idoidoido made me chuckle. 1y
emilyhaldi Thanks @Reggie I thought I was pretty funny too 😂😂 1y
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emilyhaldi
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No chance I'll be reading #alone while dog-sitting @Mdargusch cuddliest pup, Fiona ❤️ Guess who else is never alone? Polygamists! 👨‍👩‍👧👩‍👧👩‍👧👩‍👧👩‍👧👩‍👧

I believe it was @britt_brooke who inspired me to pick up this book, not to mention my fascination with TLC's Sister Wives. I'm now learning more about Mormonism than I ever dreamed I would!

#heatofjuly

Cathythoughts I‘m interested to read this one. I loved The 19th Wife 1y
Cathythoughts Very clever pick ! They are definitely never alone 1y
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Kalalalatja Ha! I really need to read this too. I‘m almost finished with this, and it has only made me more interested in learning more about Mormons 1y
Cinfhen Well played!I read a really funny book about a polygamist 1y
britt_brooke This was the book that started my fascination with fundamentalist Mormonism. Watch out, it‘s easy to go down a rabbit hole ... (edited) 1y
Bookishthoughts Wow. This looks like a intense read! 1y
saresmoore 😂 1y
BarbaraBB Haha! I remember @britt_brooke reading all those books, you will too now?! 1y
LeahBergen Fiona!! I need some dog cuddles. 😍 1y
emilyhaldi Wow @britt_brooke that's quite the recommendation list!!! I have already read Sound of Gravel, and liked it, but now I have to go add the rest to my tbr 😜 1y
StaceyKondla I second Shattered Dreams - quite the read! 1y
Mdargusch I need to read this AND cuddle that sweet baby! 💕💕💕 1y
britt_brooke @BarbaraBB @emilyhaldi It‘s an addiction. 😬😆 1y
batsy Have you guys watched Big Love? The early seasons in particular were so good @britt_brooke 1y
emilyhaldi Actually, @batsy I was just thinking I need to watch that show!! I think I watched the first 3 episodes and then fell off.. but I was into it! 1y
Reviewsbylola Lmk how this is. 1y
britt_brooke @batsy I watched, and enjoyed, the first couple of seasons. 😄 1y
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So idk if ant of you listen to the Zealot podcast, but you should be listening to the Zealot podcast. Jo wrote a book about cults, and the one I tagged is mentioned in one of my favorite episodes. Comes out March 2019

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Redheadrambles
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This is ostensibly an investigation of a religiously motivated double homicide, but that is a much smaller part of the book than you might imagine. Which is lucky, as I am squeamish and uncomfortable with the details of real cases and there are several pages here that I wish I could scrub from my mind.
I found this to be a thoroughly researched and highly readable account of the birth of a new and rapidly growing religion. Scary .

britt_brooke This was my first foray into the FLDS. Then I became kind of obsessed with them and have since read several books by former members. Scary stuff. 1y
Redheadrambles @britt_brooke I know right ! I was constantly thinking this is too crazy to be true. Even the mainstream LDS is based on some ( to me ) strange revelations by a seeming charismatic charlatan ... (edited) 1y
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britt_brooke @Redheadrambles I agree about the mainstream as well. 😉 We lived in SLC for a couple of years. Nice folks, but some odd beliefs. 1y
Redheadrambles @britt_brooke ooh that would have given you great perspective on this one. I am in NZ and I don‘t believe I have ever come across a person of that faith that I am aware of, so now I am kind of curious to visit SLC ! 1y
ClairesReads Great review as always. Glad you enjoyed this one 1y
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gobecauseyoucan
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I see stories in movies and read them in books like this. It is still unbelievable to me that people could actually be influenced to live this way. It just shows how people are searching for something and often fall victim to others who hold an evil strength. Must read for anyone who finds interest in religious cults. #jonkrakauer

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caslinj
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On to my book club book for this Saturday. I always get to my book club books late but I tore through Into the Wild so I‘m hoping I‘ll do the same for this!

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Heartbreaking & disturbing, this nonfiction account of a murder in the 1980s delves into the fanatical history of the Mormons. “Neither Emma's tears nor her rage were enough to make Joseph monogamous; nor were the prevailing mores of the day. He kept falling rapturously in love with women not his wife. And because that rapture was so wholly consuming, and felt so good, it struck him as impossible that God might possibly frown on such a thing.”

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This is the book that kick started my Fundamentalist LDS obsession several years ago. It was also my first #Krakauer. He‘s now one of my favorite #nonfiction writers.

#Tragic #ReadingResolutions

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Cathythoughts I loved the 19th Wife , I must read this 👍🏻 2y
britt_brooke @Cathythoughts The 19th Wife was really good. This one is a tough read, bug so good. 2y
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staci.reads I love Krakauer! I haven't read this one yet, though. 2y
ShookBelf I read this one on February and was blown away - it also started my obsession with FLDS. 2y
Smrloomis I thought this was excellent. Although of course it really freaked me out too 😣 2y
Kimberlone So good. I think this is one of Krakauer‘s best books along with 2y
britt_brooke @Kimberlone Completely agree! Into Thin Air is actually my favorite of his. 2y
Heatherfeather I'm also obsessed with FLDS! Any cultish thing, actually 2y
TheBookStacker Krakauer is phenomenal 2y
britt_brooke @staci.reads It‘s so good, but very tough. 2y
britt_brooke @ShookBelf I can‘t get enough of the escapees‘ memoirs. The most recent one I read was 2y
britt_brooke @Heatherfeather Same here! It‘s all just so fascinating. Have you read this one about Jim Jones? It‘s SO good: 2y
Heatherfeather @britt_brooke Noooo! Totally stacked it. Listened to the long Casefile episodes on Jonestown so I neeeeed to read this. 2y
britt_brooke @Heatherfeather I listened to the audio and the narration is fantastic, in case you go that route. It was my first book by Guinn. His book about Charles Manson is also fantastic: 2y
lyradora One of my favorite books, but also very hard to read. 2y
britt_brooke @lyradora It‘s so good, but so heartbreaking and frustrating. 2y
cherinium I have this one languishing on my #tbr shelf. Maybe I should move it up the list? 2y
britt_brooke @cherinium I would support that decision! 😁 2y
emilyhaldi I just picked this up at my library sale this weekend 😄😄😄 so excited to see this 👍🏻 2y
britt_brooke @emilyhaldi It‘s really good, but so crazy. Hope you like it!! 2y
AmandaL I love him too. 2y
mdhughes72 So are you a #Krakaddict? 2y
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kaitieclark
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Full disclosure: I was reading this while I was also reading “The Witness Wore Red.” At points I wasn‘t a huge fan of this; this book read a little more like a text book in some places. Regardless, it was so cool to get the history of the FLDS while reading the personal narrative of Rebecca Musser and her struggles and law suits against the FLDS.

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echalpan
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I think I would have enjoyed this more if I had read it instead of listened. Not my favorite narrator. The book weaves together three different stories all tied to the fundamentalist Mormon religion. All three storylines are fascinating, but this is a super long audio book. My favorite parts: the founding and early history of the church near the beginning and arguments in the courtroom near the end. Overall, a pick.

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bethcos
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Intense and fascinating.

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ShookBelf
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Cannot put this book down - it is at once a history of the Mormon religion, who themselves suffered horrific persecution in their early days, and an examination of that religion gone wrong - when religion turns into fundamentalism. #AtY #narrativenonfiction

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ShookBelf
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Started this book today. Only 45 pages through and I have felt so many different emotions - horror, pity, rage, immense sadness.
#AtY #narrativenonfiction

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echalpan
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Current audiobook. I usually stick to nonfiction for audio