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Lost Children Archive
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
From the two-time NBCC Finalist, a fiercely imaginative novel about a family's summer road trip across America--a journey that, with breathtaking imagery, spare lyricism, and profound humanity, probes the nature of justice and equality in America today. A mother and father set out with their kids from New York to Arizona. In their used Volvo--and with their ten-year-old son trying out his new Polaroid camera--the family is heading for the Apacheria: the region the Apaches once called home, and where the ghosts of Geronimo and Cochise might still linger. The father, a sound documentarist, hopes to gather an "inventory of echoes" from this historic, mythic place. The mother, a radio journalist, becomes consumed by the news she hears on the car radio, about the thousands of children trying to reach America but getting stranded at the southern border, held in detention centers, or being sent back to their homelands, to an unknown fate. But as the family drives farther west--through Virginia to Tennessee, across Oklahoma and Texas--we sense they are on the brink of a crisis of their own. A fissure is growing between the parents, one the children can feel beneath their feet. They are led, inexorably, to a grand, unforgettable adventure--both in the harsh desert landscape and within the chambers of their own imaginations. Told through the voices of the mother and her son, as well as through a stunning tapestry of collected texts and images--including prior stories of migration and displacement--Lost Children Archive is a story of how we document our experiences, and how we remember the things that matter to us the most. Blending the personal and the political with astonishing empathy, it is a powerful, wholly original work of fiction: exquisite, provocative, and deeply moving.
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Texreader
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Little Free Library haul tonight

Graywacke Love this so much 3d
BarbaraBB Me too 2d
quietlycuriouskate Oh, I loved this! 2d
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MrsMalaprop
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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#bookhaul from my outing with @Rissreads today 📚❤️🙏

Mitch The tagged one is brilliant! Enjoy! 1y
BarbaraBB I thought so too @Mitch 1y
BarbaraBB I also enjoyed 1y
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Rissreads I just looked through the Litsy reviews for the tagged book and they vary tremendously. 🤷‍♀️ 1y
MrsMalaprop @rissreads I know! But @mitch says it‘s brilliant 😊 1y
CarolynM I‘ll be interested in what you think of The Animals 1y
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abostwick24
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Panpan

I read this book for a book club and boy was I disappointed! I was excited by the plot, a dual story of immigration and tales of the Apache. But, I only finished it because I needed to. The moms‘s POV was heartbreaking and left me feeling hopeless. The boys part of the book offered a refreshing perspective. However, the lesson I took away from it was that no matter how hard you try to change your situation you can‘t.
My Review: ⭐️✨(1.5/5)

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Kempfme
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
Mehso-so

This was an interesting story about a family traveling across country. The father is looking for sounds of the Apaches. The mother is looking for information on refugee children from Mexico. The kids are there for the ride since it is summer. It was slow at first, but it became interesting as there was explanation of the contents of the boxes that they had.

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BaBaBaBillyAndTheBooks
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Mehso-so

In “Archive,” remembering those lost to history (the Apaches) or the present (refugees) is a noble effort. When you dedicate your life to archiving, however, you inevitably leave others behind and unrecorded. Two documentarians tear up their old lives and bring their kids (and us) on a long, pretty dull car ride, made worse when you see the selfishness of the effort, and how commemoration of some makes others disappear.

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Teresereading
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Day 19 #DNF not sure why, I was interested in the sound collection idea but....
#FallTreasures
@Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Eggs

Eggs 🤷‍♀️📚😑 3y
SamAnne I loved his one until the end. I really dislike narrative written from a children‘s perspective. I DNFd the last 30 pages. 3y
Teresereading I only got about half way through.... 3y
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Teresereading
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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I didn't finish this but I remember their project capturing New York soundscapes.
July 18 Listening Day - I had to google this interesting concept.
#JulyJourneys
@Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Eggs

Eggs 👏🏻📚 👂🏽 3y
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Texreader
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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https://apple.news/AVQmFzHDbTRq5Iyw7o282DA

Reminder: November‘s country is Mexico for #foodandlit

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kaysworld1
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Pickpick

This books is not the most exciting book.
All I learned is this lady and her husband like to read and never wanted children even though they have got 2! Not the best book I was bored a lot.
#AxeTheStacks @howjessicareads

#currentlyreading #audiobook #readingthelibrary #librarybook #reading #femaleauthor #readathon #readyforthefuture #servingthetea #AxeTheStacks #readingmyownbooks #audiobooks

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kaysworld1
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CaitlinR
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Panpan

Failing marriage meets road trip with planned study of the Apache (Pa) and refugee children (Ma) thrown in for pathos. In another year, I may have loved this, but I found their reluctance to face truth tiresome.

The writing is, however, beautiful.

SamAnne I really loved this book until the last 30 pages written in the children‘s‘ voice. It just rarely works. I ended up not finishing the last section. And then I felt it wasn‘t completed for me. 3y
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readordierachel
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Pickpick

Ma, Pa, the boy, and the girl drive from New York to the southwest, in search of the history of the Apaches. They listen, talk, and record their journey. They reflect on the children trying to cross into the U.S., separated from their families, lost. A deeply emotional story. The audiobook production is stunning and made me very curious what this is like in print. Second 5⭐ read of the year.

vivastory This has been lingering on my TBR for awhile. Really need to read it 3y
merelybookish She is a brilliant writer. 3y
BarbaraBB I loved this one too. Great review! 3y
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sarahbarnes I loved this one, too. ❤️❤️ 3y
readordierachel @vivastory It lives up to the hype 3y
readordierachel @merelybookish @BarbaraBB @sarahbarnes I'm looking forward to reading her other work! 3y
Centique This is looking at me from my shelf! I‘ve heard so many good things and your review is wonderful 😍 3y
readordierachel @Centique Thanks 😀 I hope it moves you as it did me! 3y
Graywacke Yay! Glad to see this here. I listened to this, fell in love. Later i read it and it was so hard for me to read, so emotional. Phew. 3y
readordierachel @Graywacke I'm looking forward to revisiting it in print. I kept wondering how things were being translated from page to audio. So good! 3y
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stretchkev
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Pickpick

I read this way back in July this year. It's a great piece of writing that I could never quite put my finger on.

Overwhelmingly depressing; not just because of the terrible situation of the children at the border, but the parallel story is just as sad. It's a story firmly in the present as everything falls to pieces. The lack of a future for the children and the family is what got me.

Graywacke I was fascinated that I found it beautiful in audio, and, yeah, “overwhelmingly depressing” in text. 3y
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bell7
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Just getting started with THE LOST CHILDREN ARCHIVE. The writing is gorgeous and slows you down reading to take in each sentence. Looking forward to digging into it more this weekend!

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Graywacke
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“He said kids in this country were usually not allowed to taste wine, said their taste buds were completely ruined by puritanism, chicken fingers, ketchup, and peanut butter. “

LitStephanie Truth 4y
Graywacke @LitStephanie painfully so. 😕🙂 4y
vivastory I hope to start this one soon 4y
Graywacke @vivastory Enjoy. It‘s one of my favorite audiobooks ever. (I‘m actually reading this time.) 4y
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Graywacke
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...how our rational, linear, organized world dissolves into the chaos of children‘s words.

Lcsmcat Nice view! 4y
Graywacke @Lcsmcat central texas 🙂 4y
readordierachel How it does indeed 4y
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Graywacke
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... all those books and stories devoted to adult-less children ... are nothing but desperate attempts by adults to come to terms with childhood. That although they seem to be stories about children‘s worlds—worlds without adults—they are in fact stories about an adult‘s world when there are children in it, about the way that children‘s imaginations destabilize our adult sense of reality and force us to question the very grounds of that reality.

merelybookish Are you rereading? 4y
Graywacke @merelybookish yes. In November-ish I listened. Reading this time. 4y
Gogobooks Re read also. Such talent. 4y
Graywacke @Gogobooks yes, agree. She‘s wonderful. 4y
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Graywacke
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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“I read those first lines once, then twice—both times getting a little lost in the words and syntax.”

One thing this book reminds me of is the permanence of print, that I don‘t need to rush through the words and worry about time, worry whether I‘m being careful and getting it all right. That I can stumble across them and later come back again and stumble across them in a different way. They‘ll remember what they said.

Liz_M And in this work, many phrases act as leitmotifs and will be repeated with variations. 4y
Graywacke @Liz_M true that. Everything is revisited. 4y
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Graywacke
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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“The inventory of echoes was not a collection of sounds that have been lost —such a thing would in fact be impossible —but rather one of the sounds that were present in the time of recording and that, when we listen to them, remind us of the ones that are lost.”

BarbaraBB So so good. I think you are loving it, am I right? 4y
Graywacke @BarbaraBB yes. She‘s wonderful here! I listened to it last year, so it‘s like a reread, but i get to hover over lines this time 4y
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Graywacke
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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No one decides to not go to work and start a hunger strike after listening to the radio in the morning.

CatLass007 😻 4y
Graywacke @CatLass007 🙂 (he‘s waiting for me to get careless so he can attack my bookmark. It‘s a thing he does. Cats... ) 4y
CatLass007 I love bookmarks with tassels and so do my cats. I have to keep the tassels stuck inside the books. (edited) 4y
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jenniferw88
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Best I can do today - Mexico edition! The Story of My Teeth is still on the TBR! I think my TBR will grow significantly with this week's prompt!

#integrateyourshelf @ChasingOm @Emilymdxn

ChasingOm The Lost Children Archive is still on my TBR! 4y
merelybookish I really liked both her novels! 4y
charl08 Tell me how it ends is just amazing. I rave about this book to anyone who will listen! 4y
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saguarosally
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I can‘t help but be irritated by these people being so stuck in history that they fail to acknowledge modern settlements. These places need some acknowledgment. Sounds like they‘re out near modern Sunizona. #cochisecounty

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vivastory
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Congrats on the anniversary @GatheringBooks 📚🎊🍻
I'm stealing @Billypar idea & listing my 10 most anticipated books on my TBR
1) T. Morrison-The Last Interview (pub. 7/7)
2) Luiselli-Lost Children Archive
3) Burns-Milkman
4) Ling Ma-Severance
5) Kunzru-Red Pill
6) Ogawa-Memory Police
7) Orange-There There
8) Attenberg-All This Could Be Yours
9) Boyne-Ladder to the Sky
10) Jackson-We Have Always Lived In the Castle
I tag @Tanisha_A @LeahBergen

LeahBergen I think you‘re going to love We Have Always Lived in the Castle. 😄 4y
LeahBergen And thanks for the tag. I‘ll start pondering! 4y
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batsy What @LeahBergen said! Shirley Jackson is queen 👑 4y
Billypar I can't wait to try Lost Children Archive - pretty high on my list too. 4y
KVanRead 7) was one of my best reads from last year. Highly recommend. 4y
vivastory @leahbergen @batsy I can't wait to read it! Have you watched the movie Shirley? 4y
vivastory @Billypar She was fantastic when I saw her on the Greenlight reading last week. BTW if you're interested, the owners said they'll be posting the video on youtube later this week. It was a phenomenal lineup. 4y
vivastory @KVanRead I've only ever heard great things about it. I might try to squeeze it in this week.. 4y
Billypar Oh wow, just looked it up - that is a good lineup! I'll have to look out for the recorded version. 4y
vivastory @Billypar I'm planning on watching it again. It was fantastic! 4y
LeahBergen I haven‘t watched Shirley yet (but I will!). 4y
GatheringBooks Awesome! I loved books 2 and 3 on your list! Thank you for reposting. 💕😍🧚🏼‍♀️ 4y
vivastory @GatheringBooks I should receive 2 in the mail in a few days and I will definitely be reading 3 this month 📚📚 4y
readordierachel Great list! Lost Children Archive is high on the list for me too. 4y
readordierachel I haven't read any Luiselli yet. Have you read that one? 4y
vivastory @readordierachel I have. It's strange, but in a really good way 😄 4y
readordierachel Oh, and thank you so much for the books!! 😊 4y
readordierachel @vivastory I like strange! I will add that one to the list! 4y
vivastory @readordierachel Glad they reached you. I know USPS is weird these days. Don't feel any pressure to read the O'Brien, I had a spare & thought you might be interested. I think you'll really like the Szabo. 4y
readordierachel I appreciate it! Really looking forward to the Szabo. 4y
batsy @vivastory I haven't watched Shirley yet, either. I do want to, though! Have you? 4y
vivastory @batsy I watched it a week or so ago, although there were a few factual inaccuracies I liked it overall. Elisabeth Moss' performance as Shirley was def the best thing about it. 4y
Tanisha_A Great list, Luiselli and Boyne are so high on my tbr too. Also, I never got the notification 😱, Litsy acting up I guess. Giving this a think! ❤️ 4y
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Bevita
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Pickpick

Wow this was intense. So beautifully written and so smart. Unforgettable. The intermingling of the refugee children and these children “The Boy” and “The Girl” aka Swift Feather and Memphis. Just lovely and a book I may actually read again.

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Hooked_on_books
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Mehso-so

This book is not what I expected. It is the story of a marriage across its arc with a side story on migration that could have been removed entirely and not changed the book much. The way it is talked about, I expected a full-on migration story. I liked parts of this quite a bit but found other parts unnecessary, distracting, or seemingly pointless. It‘s a little odd.

Cinfhen I thought the imploding marriage was really intense but the middle section got very weighed down. It was odd but I was down for something different so it worked for me 4y
BarbaraBB It is definitely more about marriage than migration. I can imagine you ended up disappointed when you had expected that. I loved the book, also because I went in without knowing much about it. 4y
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Soubhiville
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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Pickpick

Another review I read said this book rides a line between fiction and nonfiction, and I think that‘s accurate.

Much of the story is about a crumbling marriage, both partners knowing things are falling apart and being unsure if what they have is worth saving. There are two children as well, and the older one‘s point of view is also taken into consideration.
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Soubhiville I was hoping for more in this about the migrant children. Their‘s was the story I was after, and it played a secondary role. 4y
Hooked_on_books Hey, we did a buddy read without knowing it! I finished this on audio today as well. I haven‘t reviewed it yet, as I‘m not sure what I think. Parts I thought were terrific, but I found the desert meetup a little too random. I also expected there to be more about the migrant kids, since so many people tout that, but you frankly could‘ve removed that storyline entirely and it would not have changed much. 4y
Soubhiville Ha, that‘s funny @Hooked_on_books ! I liked the parts from the boy‘s point of view, until they wandered off... how stupid! I agree about the meetup, and also frankly found the ending unbelievable. Ultimately I did like the book, even though it was kind of all over the place and not what I wanted it to be. Which surprises me. I chose to read this because several people told me I should read it alongside American Dirt. (edited) 4y
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JillR
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Pickpick

I didn‘t think I loved this, although now I‘ve finished it I can‘t stop thinking about it, so maybe I did after all! The writing is really beautiful, but the story wasn‘t there for me and I always struggle with that. The final third, however, felt almost like a different book and won me over, so much so that it might be one for a reread one day, when I‘m not feeling so impatient. I‘m glad I read it.

Cinfhen Perfect review/ I had similar feelings 4y
JillR @cinfhen thank you 😊 4y
TrishB Still to read! 4y
JillR @trishb save it for when your feeling slow and reflective and not in the mood for fast paced plot I‘d say! :) 4y
TrishB Thanks 👍🏻 I‘ll definitely remember that. 4y
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Graywacke
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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#7days7books Day 7

Seven books that left a deep impression on me and changed me.

One of my favorite books ever and favorite audiobooks ever. I was too lost in the book to notice if it changed me, but I hope it did.

Thanks, once more, for the tag @batsy
@greenreads - want to play?

Graywacke I was thinking I should put my first audiobook here, since that kicked off all my listening, but it was Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick. He‘s a good writer, poor historian with an insanely misleading amateurish flaw in the book. The narrator was George Guidall, who is something awesome. (edited) 4y
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squirrelbrain
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Only Q9.99 on Kindle today. Not an easy subject matter, but I loved this book, and I know a lot of other Littens do too....

Cathythoughts Great price !!! I do have the book ( havnt read yet ) but I would be going for that bargain otherwise 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 4y
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BarbaraBB
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#TOB2020

I am so glad to see LCA back in the tournament thanks up the zombie votes. I‘m sure it won‘t give away this well-deserved position and we‘ll see it back in tomorrow‘s Finals, don‘t you think?

Suet624 I'm so disappointed right now. 4y
BarbaraBB Me too @Suet624 😬😉 4y
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jenniferw88
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli
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rsteve388 How did you like Lost Children Archive ? 4y
Cinfhen Congrats on completing #Winter #Booked2020 ☃️🎉💙This is your “official” entry for #FirstQuarterDrawing 😀 4y
BarbaraTheBibliophage Great job! ♥️👊🏻📚 4y
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jenniferw88
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5 🌟

Loved this - I enjoyed the relationship between boy and the girl and was close to tears at the end.

#millennialauthor for #booked2020 & completes January to March's prompts - update coming shortly! @Cinfhen @BarbaraTheBibliophage @4thhouseontheleft

4th virtual book for #MarchUnshelfing @Clwojick

Cathythoughts Nice review ❤️I have this one ... still not read ... must bump up 4y
TrishB @Cathythoughts me too! Another one I haven‘t got to yet. 4y
Suet624 A five star for me as well. 4y
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Suet624 A five star read for me as well. 4y
Cinfhen Hoping this wins Tournament of Books 🙏🏼📚🎉 4y
Clwojick Stacking! 4y
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jenniferw88
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OriginalCyn620 📚👍🏻📚 4y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks How are you Jenny? Sending lots of love ❤️❤️ 4y
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Mitch
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I did have tickets to see this awards ceremony live at the British Library - watched it on Twitter instead! My favourite won(which seldom happens!).

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jenniferw88
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TheAromaofBooks Good luck!! 4y
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jenniferw88
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#bookreport week 21/3/20 @Cinfhen

Finished
🥇 The Man Who Mistook his Wife for a Hat and Other Clinical Tales
🥇 When the Doves Disappeared

Made progress on
🥈 The Daughter of Time

Started
🥉 Lost Children Archive

Cinfhen Glad you‘re reading!! How are you feeling?? Are you staying indoors?? Is The Chase airing new episodes?????? 4y
jenniferw88 @Cinfhen I'm ok thanks, transplant hospital has advised me to self-isolate, and yes! 4y
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ReadingEnvy
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Reading Envy Podcast Episode 183: Birthing Rabbits with Jessica (ToB2020) @thebluestocking

Ready your brackets, this is the only madness happening in March!⤵️

https://tinyurl.com/ReadingEnvy183

ReadingEnvy Jessica and I are superfans of the Morning News Tournament of Books, and have participated as readers for several years. We are not official partners of the Tournament, nor does it belong to us, but we are hopeful that all involved will take this as a fancast and that readers who haven't heard of it will participate next time. ⤵️ 4y
thebluestocking Thank you for having me on the show! I had such a great time talking about the Tournament with you. I hope your listeners enjoy it too. 💙 4y
ReadingEnvy @thebluestocking you were the perfect guest, let's do it again sometime 4y
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rsteve388
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Pickpick

This book was a wild ride, it really was a surprising story, both in how the story was crafted and how each character develops and changes over the course of the story and how the Audiobook was crafted and delivered.

I would sorta suggest this book, with a strong understanding that it's slow in the beginning.

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rsteve388
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli

Reading through chapter 5, this whole story is really a wild ride for me, I at times felt frustrated, intrigued, inspired and disliked the narrator, but then in chapters 4 and 5 a younger narrator comes into the story and really gives the story more depth then what I found in the beginning. This chapter does a interesting transition between the main character and the secondary character while one speaks and the other takes over. Interesting.

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rsteve388
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli

I am now a member of Libro.fm :) wooo hoo!! Supporting Tattered Cover Bookstore in Denver CO!

I get two free books, which one should be my first Audiobook? Hmmm

LiteraryinLawrence You inspired me to do that for my local indie! Thanks! 4y
rsteve388 Score! Yay 4y
Bookwormjillk Love Libro.fm 4y
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rsteve388
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So this is happening next weekend! Sign up for the #24In48 Social Distancing Readathon

Sign up here https://24in48.com/2020/03/12/24in48-the-social-distancing-edition/

I am really struggling to read cause of my new job, so if I am not working I'll be reading!

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rsteve388
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A good portion of the story seems to be around the narrators relationship with her family and her own desire to grow her own career without them and trying to decide to leave. It's not what I expected I thought there would be more focus on the crisis as the border.

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marleed
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This is my third author read to compliment American Dirt. Because of mixed reviews I opted to read critiques before diving in. I‘m glad I did. It helped me appreciate both story and writing. The second, and fascinating, POV begins in the last third. But that third was as good as it was because of the first POV. ... The migration story is really more of a background story to this book, but it worked.

Suet624 I had some complaints about the book as I was reading it but when I was done I was in love with it. So good. 4y
BarbaraBB and it just made it to the next round in the tournament of books! 4y
marleed @Suet624 @barbaraBB For me some books are like going to a play when it is to my advantage to read the scene synopsis in the playbook before the play begins. I‘m fairly sure I was able to enjoy this book more because I read the ‘play notes‘. 4y
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rsteve388
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What an interesting story so far, a family takes a road trip across the country (The U.S) as the situation on the southern boarder becomes a crisis with migrant children as they are taken into custody.

Hearing the story from the mother as they travel gives the story a nice depth both in terms of narration and the story it's self. It's a book that is very deep intellectually, and so far isn't a hand holder.

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rsteve388
Lost Children Archive | Valeria Luiselli

Good Morning Litsy, I am currently listening to this story for the #TOB2020 it's an interesting Audiobook, I am only into the first hour, but I can already understand why this book was suggested as a better option than American Dirt.

#Audiobook #TOB

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OhNoMersault
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All the ruins of early capitalism now engulfed by future ruins of later capitalism. #realtalk

BarbaraBB Such a great book 4y
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OhNoMersault
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The kid questions in this book are so astute and so sweet.

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rachaich
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I've read mixed reviews about this.
The premis sounds like a road trip with a purpose and underlying theme.
I'm making a start...