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This book was a really nice companion for a day here.

LeahBergen Beautiful! I love Venice SO MUCH. 2d
Cathythoughts How lovely 🥰 2d
batsy Gosh! 😍 2d
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Tamra Gorgeousness! 2d
Graywacke @LeahBergen @Cathythoughts @batsy @Tamra It was a very good day. 🙂 (family trip) 2d
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Graywacke
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On flight one I switched to this.

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Graywacke
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Heard one calling from my bookshelves.

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Graywacke
Invisible Man | Ralph Ellison
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I‘ve been working through this. About half way now. (Although usually without this little purring helper)

dabbe Not an invisible kitty! Sweet face, and that eye! 💙🐾💚 2w
TiredLibrarian Excellent helper! 😻 2w
Graywacke @dabbe She‘s definitely focused in being noticed! We always know when she comes around, because she sings to us (usually in inappropriate language) @TiredLibrarian hmm. Not sure helpful is one of her character traits. “unhelper”? 🙂 2w
dabbe @Graywacke She matches the book colors perfectly! 🤣😍🤩 2w
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Graywacke
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Entertaining and recommended if you want a fun book. It‘s surprisingly fun, also serious, ranting and thoughtful. He covers Africa's tragic colonial history, then the surprising realities of various African countries - the arbitrary borders, tensions from colonial divisions, their youth and variability, and success and failures and new successes. And he has fun ranting on the western perspectives.

BarbaraBB Glad you enjoyed it 2w
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Graywacke
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I sampled this one this morning, and it opens really nicely. So now I‘m 36 minutes into a 36 hour audiobook, and I‘m fascinated. Hadn‘t really processed that J Edgar Hoover was a Roosevelt big government guy before he went all COINTELPRO. Didn‘t know he was gay, or anti-right wing. But, of course, he was racist and anti-liberal, and powerful enough (for 48 yrs) to be really destructive. Anyway, I‘m all-in so far.

Suet624 Ooohhhh, he is quite the complicated guy. And mean. Can‘t wait to hear how you like it. 2w
Graywacke @Suet624 this author has me really intrigued by him 2w
Suet624 36 hours though!!! Yikes!! 2w
Graywacke @Suet624 it‘s a lot of 30-minute commutes. ☺️ (edited) 2w
Hooked_on_books Sounds fascinating! 2w
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Graywacke
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Thin stuff, but this Pulitzer Prize winner comes around and ended up a nice audiobook. Hua Hsu is the son of Taiwanese immigrants who came to the US to study. He was born in Illinois. The book is mostly about his days at UC Berkley in the late 1990's, and the lessons he learned there about life. Of course, he has to make it do a bit more than that for the book be any good. He does.

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Graywacke
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Apparently when my brain needs a rest, this is what I go to. A 1965 biography?/study?/hagiography? of Princeton basketball star Bill Bradley. Bradley would go on to a Rhodes scholarship, an NBA career with the Knicks, a long period as a US senator and a serious president candidacy. But that all happened after McPhee‘s awe-filled exploration of a then young mr. perfect. What weird? It works. It‘s a terrific book.

Currey I have loved many a McPhee 2w
Graywacke @Currey yeah…he‘s such a great writer. I picked this up at the library $1-a-book shelf last week…along with 3 others by him. ☺️ 2w
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A Closed Eye | Anita Brookner
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Wellington Square 👆

1st time reading Brookner. So clean and polished and easy and perfect.

Harriet Lytton has an imperfect, or worse, marriage to an older man, and pins her hopes a daughter she raises to be independent, and who naturally grows up to be independent of her mom. This does some really meaningful stuff, looking at loneliness, desire, and disappointment. So much unspoken, undone. It all feels relatable and real.

Cathythoughts Nice review 👍🏻 I have this one stacked. 1mo
Graywacke @Cathythoughts oh, yay! Hope you find it rewarding. I really enjoyed it, and hope something of it hangs around a bit. 1mo
LeahBergen I‘m “reimpressed” by her writing whenever I pick up one of her novels. 1mo
Graywacke @LeahBergen I can see that. I‘m glad i read this and got a sense of her writing. 1mo
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The Glimpses of the Moon | Edith Wharton
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A predetermined divorce? Two parasitic homeless American newlyweds never leave Europe. Their marriage, designed to end, shatters early. What next? This is a silly setup that should not work. But it works delightfully. Wharton was having fun. #whartonbuddyread

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The Edge of the Sea | Rachel Carson, Sue Hubbell
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What stands out here are tidal pools. Carson starts on the rocky coasts of Canada and New England, checking out every niche in every layer if the tidal rhythms, animal by animal. And then she works south. I found it demanding a lot more of my attention, listening, then it was drawing. Another animal, another minute aspect in detail. Which animal now? 🙂☺️ Well, I appreciated her passion. I hope to finally listen to Silent Spring next.

rockpools I‘ve loved this for years (I wonder why 🤔🐚 🦀) but I‘m not sure I‘d be that keen on the audio… Your review of Under the Sea Wind FINALLY spurred me on to buy a copy of that though, which I am SO looking forward to. Now I just need to read it! 1mo
Graywacke @rockpools well, by handle, it‘s a especially good fit. 🙂 I agree audio is not the ideal. I forced it. (It‘s free on audible). I hope what came across is my limitations, and not Carson‘s. I hope you enjoy Under the Sea Wind. Take it slow. (Avoid the free audio 😉) 1mo
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The Glimpses of the Moon | Edith Wharton
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Alas, she did not understand.

Is anything solved? They still have no money and they still can‘t communicate. But they have experience. Nick and Susy and five Fulmers are bonded and off for another honeymoon. Anyone else imagine Wharton maybe giggling a bit behind her concealed straight writers face?

Well, Wharton has a way. What was your take? Was it too lite, too simple? Does it work? (Why or why not?) Want more Wharton?

#whartonbuddyread

Lcsmcat It was much lighter, I thought, than her more well-known works. But I loved the humor and her spot-on prose. It was nice to have a happy-seeming ending, which is all a “they lived happily ever after” ending is. We all know that doesn‘t mean every day is bliss! But I‘m cautiously optimistic about their chances, as they seem to have grown up a bit. 1mo
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Lcsmcat I‘m up for more Wharton. A Son at the Front is next, and we could start that one in June or July, as people wish. It‘s about 240 pages, so not a long one. 1mo
Currey @Graywacke It worked for me because of having read all the other Wharton‘s. I could see the common themes (societal constraints, miscommunication, the inability to make a decision) and see how she played with them, as you say, with a giggle. I thought that the one more round of Nick showing up just when Stef did also was too pat for Wharton but I found the ending to be generally hopeful. They will clearly still have all the same problems 👇 1mo
Currey but they at least have a few more options than simply breaking up their business arrangement. 1mo
Daisey I thought this one felt quite a bit lighter than most other books by Wharton I‘ve read, but I loved that we got a hopeful ending. I think Nick and Susy learned from their experiences and will be happy. 1mo
batsy Yes, nicely put @Currey ! I agree. The themes are Whartonian but in this I liked that the hopefulness is rooted in trying to honour the integrity of marriage as they both see fit. It could have been cynical but she took what seems like a bit of a risk in going for the happy ending, and I think it paid off. 1mo
jewright I liked this book. It‘s not exactly what I would have expected from Wharton, but it was honestly nice to have a happy ending. They both grew up. 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat i‘m certainly up for A Son at the Front. Traveling early June. So, later June or July might get my personal vote. 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat and how about Wharton doing a happy ending? It‘s nice to know she can that, and manage it pretty well. 1mo
Graywacke @Currey (Streff‘s last appearance was certainly routine RomCom plotting.) Catching these themes and patterns and watching them evolve is part of the reason to read an author chronologically. Changing morality is another theme. (Divorce has gone from something only morally-blind Undine/ pursue to a game plan.) 1mo
Graywacke @Daisey So, from last week‘s discussion, do you mean lighter in substance or in plot? (Happiness being light than death) Or both? (And, a question for everyone: if the later, how does it change our response?) I‘m glad you loved the end! 1mo
Graywacke @batsy wasn‘t it both cynical and happy? I mean, they blew a free summer in Venice for nothing, and wound up with 5 unmoored kids in Fontainebleau. (Hmm. Maybe that‘s just me being cynical. 🙂 And i‘d take the Fontainebleau option!) 1mo
Graywacke @jewright it was nice! Agreed. Nice to feel good about a book. 1mo
Lcsmcat @Currey It was very rom com, but given that date it was written, I‘d say it was Dickensian. ? He used coïncidence in his plots a lot! 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I thought Wharton managed the happy ending well. Keeping the 5 kids in it kept it from being too saccharine. 1mo
AllDebooks I enjoyed it. I got the sense of Wharton's mischief on this one. Definitely a lot looser and lighter than her usual prose. Great ending and you all say, not too romantic with 5 kids in tow 😅 1mo
Currey @Lcsmcat plus the piece about Susy almost blowing it with pawning the bracelet, telling us that there is more for her to learn. 1mo
Daisey @Graywacke I think a little bit of both, because these decisions are not as much about life and death that occur in some of her other books, so the substance is there but lighter. Definitely the plot is a bit lighter because it does work out better than many others. 1mo
dabbe I did enjoy the so-called happy ending, the one I wished would have happened in THE AGE OF INNOCENCE -5 kids (even though I LOVED the reality of that ending). Being basically toward the end of her writing career, it seems like Wharton also changed “a bit“ and loosened up. When I first chuckled at this book at the beginning, I thought, “This can't be Wharton, making me laugh!“ It was, and it did. 😊 1mo
Leftcoastzen I did enjoy the book. I think Wharton lightened up so to speak because the times were changing. I love her storytelling ,the way she writes about miscommunication or no communication at all. I‘d love to keep reading Wharton. 1mo
arubabookwoman Well I think we finally got a happy ending from Wharton. Tho' I was holding my breath at the end when 1st Suzy doesn't tell Nick that she's turned Streff down ( failure to communicate again). Then on the issue of Susy not returning the bracelet from Elsie and pawning it to pay for Fountainbleau, I was holding my breath again, fearing Nick 1mo
arubabookwoman was going to have a moral hissy fit as with the cigars and the letters Susy posted for Elsie. But at least Susy has learned to be honest, and I really think she rather liked her life caring for the 5 kids. I'm more concerned about Nick's ability to live in reduced circumstances. 1mo
arubabookwoman I'm up for more Wharton.I hope A Son at the Front is not a companion piece of propaganda to The Marne though.And I hope the Wharton read continues through at least The Children, which is a fascinating look into the lives of the children (like Elsie's Clarissa) of these people. 1mo
Graywacke @arubabookwoman i deeply hope A Son at the Front is not like The Marne. But it was the next book Wharton wrote, in 1919. (Even if it wasn‘t actually published until 1923). 1mo
CarolynM As everyone has said, this is a lighter story, but no less enjoyable for it. My take on the “happily ever after” is that Nick is going to make reasonable money from his writing and Suzy has learnt to be content with less, so their chances are good. I was glad for them, but I did feel sorry for Coral who was misled not only into false hope for her love being requited, but also into turning down a position that might have suited her well. 👇 (edited) 1mo
CarolynM ☝️ So much for Nick‘s high moral ground🤨 As to the acceptability of divorce, is the society here at the same level as the rarefied heights of the old NY society of A o I or even of T C o t C? It seems to me there were many strata to the social circles of the time. The difference may have been the times or the society they happened to belong to. Anyway, I am definitely up for more Wharton with this group🙂 (edited) 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat i agree Wharton managed. I want to say it worked for me - but also it seems to have worked for about everyone. 1mo
Graywacke @AllDebooks yeah, a lot of authorial mischief. 🙂 glad you enjoyed. 1mo
Graywacke @Daisey yeah, i see that. Last week i made a comment about the writing pretty good and not light. And someone pointed out they meant lighted as in not one dies. No tragedy or upsetting stuff. It‘s just a semi-serious marriage (that evolves into a somewhat silly serious marriage). So i was thinking about that meaning, light, light in what way. But I agree with you completely. 1mo
Graywacke @dabbe Willa Cather said the world “broke” on 1922. A curious time to select. Wharton seems to see a loosening at about the same time. (I‘m thinking - what was it about the early 1920‘s?) 1mo
Graywacke @Leftcoastzen oh, I cringe over the bad communication. But life. It happens. (Also see my previous comment on the changing world) 1mo
Graywacke @arubabookwoman in a way, Susy stays Susy and Nick changes by becoming more tolerant (laying down his fanciful and impossible faux-moral purity. 🙂 ) 1mo
Graywacke @CarolynM i love your optimism. Go Nick! Make a living! And yeah, e out if self-righteous Nick. Bleh. I think divorce is lighter here, in approach, because in no other of her books does a couple say, let‘s get married for now. But in the end it treats divorce more seriously. 1mo
Graywacke It occurs to me that happy endings can be very conservative. They don‘t rock the boat. Whereas tragedy demands rethinking. So maybe this ending reflects Wharton‘s more conservative views of marriage. Maybe her own divorce was harder on her than we realize or appreciate. In any case, thanks everyone for joining and commenting and being a part this and making Wharton a richer experience. 1mo
AllDebooks @Graywacke Thank you for your great hosting. It's been a pretty insightful discussion 1mo
dabbe @Graywacke Hmm. Great question. Maybe the end of WW1 leading into WW2. Lots of disillusionment occurred during this period because of the drastic effects of WW1. T.S. Eliot's THE WASTELAND came out in 1922. Most of her writing occurred at the beginning of Modernism, just like Fitzgerald; both wrote scathingly and humorously (Glimpses) about their societies yet couldn't escape them or maybe even didn't want to. 1mo
Lcsmcat @dabbe @Graywacke As a musician, I‘ve taken it as a given that things created between the wars were very bleak. Some of it very beautiful, don‘t get me wrong, but with a more despairing view of the world. Think Ravel‘s Tombeau de Couperin, each movement named for a friend who died in the war. And literature too - Sartre comes to mind - became nihilistic. Then there was the frenzy leading up to the stock market crash (Thomas Wolfe comes to mind) ⬇️ 1mo
Lcsmcat ⬆️ which sensitive people (artists, writers) knew was covering up something dark underneath. All of that leads me to agree with Cather. And it makes me wonder if, with the bleakness at the end of WWI (especially in Europe, where Wharton lived) she needed a happy ending for herself, and felt readers did too. You don‘t watch horror movies when you‘re in the midst of trauma, you watch comedies. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 1mo
dabbe @Lcsmcat You give excellent reasons for the “broke“ness of 1922, especially about Wharton possibly wanting a happy ending for herself––for a change. And that is the key word: change. Change in society from the horrors of war, and in the story itself: Susy changes by realizing what love truly is and that money can't buy love (cliche, but true, IMHO). 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat That‘s a lovely post. Very interesting thoughts, both. ( @dabbe ) 1mo
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Black Boy | Richard Wright
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This. It‘s like such a crystalline picture. Richard Wright has this way of making himself a regular person in the completely insane, oppressive violent world of the 1920‘s Jim Crowe South. It‘s dystopian, and nonfictional. His response, his strength, but also his tone - it‘s like “What are these people thinking?!…Is this real?” - is incredibly powerful. It‘s an amazing window into that reality, our history.

AmyG This is one of my most favorite books. I picked it up as a teenager and I remember reading the opening part….and feeling blown away. This book was so eye openeing for me. 1mo
Graywacke @AmyG It‘s so memorable! (i must have read some or all the first part in high school because it left a deep impression. I didn‘t remember the author or the title, but I recognized the events and… they really had shaped my view of the world.) 1mo
staci.reads I used to teach this one in a junior English course. Early in its publication, only the first 2/3 were published, leaving out everything in Chicago and his foray into communism. Only much later was it published as the full text. I find that a fascinating and very telling of the time. 1mo
Graywacke @staci.reads I must have read this in high school, but only part one. I was confused why until i read about the publication history. No doubt once the cold war settled in, it was a bad time to share Communist associations (although 1944 was maybe ok??) But, part one is much stronger. And the reworked 1945 ending was nice (merely an endnote in my reconstructed edition). 1mo
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Love Visions | Geoffrey Chaucer
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I‘m sure Brian Stone meant well, but this felt overcooked to me. Stone translated four mid-length works by Chaucer into modern English: The Book of the Duchess, The House of Fame, The Parliament of Birds and The Legend of Good Women, with an autobiographical prologue. I thought it read too easily. I checked a few places against the Chaucer‘s original, and this is just really different and really freely “translated”. But I got through it…

Suet624 Congrats!! 1mo
Graywacke @Suet624 ☺️ 1mo
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A Closed Eye | Anita Brookner
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Well, that‘s an open eye. Anyway another book I‘m starting, and a new-to-me author.

dabbe Precious Pepper! 💙🐾💚 1mo
Graywacke @dabbe she loves the compliments 🙂 1mo
Cathythoughts I loved the ones I‘ve read of Brookner. Stacking this one 👍🏻 1mo
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batsy Snuggly pupper! 1mo
Graywacke @Cathythoughts so clean, skilled, organized and compelling. So well done. Brookner here makes reading very easy. (And it‘s just one of her many novels. Are they all like this?) 1mo
Graywacke @batsy she‘s a little big for actually snuggling, at 60 lbs. But she tries. 1mo
AllDebooks What a gorgeous dog 😍 I haven't read any Brookner for a long, long time. Loved Hotel Du Lac 1mo
Graywacke @AllDebooks she stoically appreciates your comment. 🙂 I just finished this novel, like an hour ago. So clean and easy to read. (edited) 1mo
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Starting a new audiobook

BarbaraBB I learned a lot from this book 1mo
Graywacke @BarbaraBB that‘s what I‘m hoping - to open up some worlds or perspectives… well and I want to enjoy listening. ☺️ 1mo
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Walden | Henry David Thoreau
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Hmm. Can I actually get through this?

#rereadtheclassics (except this would my 1st reading this) #naturalisty @AllDebooks

IndoorDame Good luck! I never managed to get through it 😂 1mo
dabbe I'm going to take your question rhetorically and write, “Of course you can!“ Oh, wait. I'm not supposed to answer a rhetorical question, so I'll say it silently in my head instead. 🤣 1mo
Graywacke @IndoorDame yeah, you know, thank you. @dabbe I‘m afraid the question is not rhetorical 🙂 1mo
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batsy I want to read it too! It doesn't feel like a book that can be read straight through, though? I might be wrong. 1mo
Graywacke @batsy well, these opening 5 pages are all over the place. So far it begs rereading over and over. Presumably he settles down, eventually. ?? 1mo
AllDebooks I've read reviews where the 1st few chapters are tough going, but then we get to the good stuff. It's certainly testing my patience atm! 😅 maybe I should have chosen John Muir or Aldo Leopold 1mo
Graywacke @AllDebooks that‘s what i‘ve heard. Plot through Economy, and then it gets better. I‘m itching to read Leopold. Muir appeals too, although I suspect he is harder to read. 1mo
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The Glimpses of the Moon | Edith Wharton
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Nick is hanging in mixed comfort with the Hickses, while Susy wallows in indecision. Five months of no contact! Is Wharton pressing our limits of belief or capturing a strangled relationship? I thought the chapter on Susy‘s state of mind before Streff‘s 1st disturbing kiss was quite powerful. (But I do wonder about getting engaged before kissing, even in 1922)

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Lcsmcat I was proud of Suzy in this section! Whatever Nick does, she‘s finally coming to recognize her own worth. And maybe even a little that money isn‘t everything? 1mo
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Currey @Graywacke @Lcsmcat Well, we already know from our previous Wharton reads that “trimming hats” does not allow one to buy dresses in Paris, nor for that matter even prevent one from starving. Poor Susy, she can not love any one other than Nick and Nick can not buy her the life she wants to live. 1mo
Currey @Graywacke @Lcsmcat Even with all the usual Wharton themes: miscommunication, the golden handcuffs of the rich, the paralysis of indecision, etc. I continue to enjoy this story for its humor. I thought Susy was going to throw up when Stef kissed her! Plus clearly the social blight of divorce has completely changed since Age of Innocence 1mo
Graywacke @Currey Susy and that kiss! Phew. (But if she had enjoyed it? Different book). I was entertained by Nick‘s moment with Coral: “She turned her head slightly, and their eyes met. For an instant blank terror loomed upon him” 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat Suzy hasn‘t figured out how to live outside the leisure class. So I won‘t give her too much credit. But I‘m moved by her trials. @Currey I‘m glad you‘re enjoying as much as I am. Whatever is here, i‘m finding myself involved and away, momentarily, from real world stuff. 1mo
Leftcoastzen I like being away from the real world stuff too! Sometimes I wish Suzy would abandon the leisure class , but could she at this point?The flaw in the plan becomes more obvious, if the suitor repulses you ,despite their tempting wealth and security, you don‘t want that deal . All the not knowing with no letters would drive me nuts. 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Suzy hasn‘t figured out how to live outside the leisure class, true, but that doesn‘t mean she couldn‘t. And her flying to Grace I took as a good sign. 1mo
IndoorDame @Lcsmcat @Graywacke I‘m moved by her trials also. But I‘m not convinced she could live outside the leisure class. She could certainly survive, but I don‘t think she‘d be truly happy. I thought her little fantasies about working for a living on joining a convent were really telling of just how completely divorced from the real world she is and how unready to enter it. 1mo
Graywacke @Leftcoastzen @Lcsmcat @IndoorDame - wondering what kind of trap the leisure class is. For Lily, departure was fatal. Susy is a different sort. But the answer to that question also reveals something of what Susy gave up with Streff; and, by implication, what other members…tolerated…in their partners. 1mo
Graywacke I‘ve been sidestepping the “lighter” adjective applied to this. It‘s a simple plot. But to make this work, and stay interesting and suspenseful, was not a simple thing. And I feel Wharton is tinkering with something much more serious. I feel like chapter 19, Susy‘s indecision, felt real. Wharton is, 3/4s in, still able to make this work feel heavier or lighter. (edited) 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I like @Currey ‘s phrase “golden handcuffs.” If you are convinced that only certain things will allow for happiness, then the terror of not having them must be fierce. And since that class tended to dehumanize those who served them, they would have no conception of how anyone could be happy in another class. 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat on one hand a lot of basic conveniences were done by servants. So things that allow for happiness included a lot of basic stuff that was very difficult to get. But, on the other hand, I know my grandparents weren‘t suffering in 1922 (they were mostly almost teens then). Even my poor maternal grandfather playing stickball in the Bronx didn‘t remember to complain to me that his life was in danger from inconveniences. 🙂 1mo
Currey @Graywacke Yes, I feel it is “lighter”because the possibilities are more open rather than the tight limitations of societal prescriptions. Suzy actually has options. They may not be great options but they are options. And I have laughed out loud a number of times. However, that does not mean that the craft is “lighter”, if anything it demonstrates a remarkable balancing ability. 1mo
Lcsmcat @Currey Yes, Wharton is in fine form here! There are many passages I‘ve highlighted, like “She had had a taste of the tropics, and wanted more equable weather;” 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Servants were “necessary” to live a certain way, for sure. But not to live happily. How many of our ancestors were in this class? And yet I‘d wager that many of them were happy, or content. 1mo
CarolynM @Currey Some great observations 🙂 I wonder how much the value those brought up in the “leisure class” place on status makes a difference to the degree to which they “tolerate” partners who offer them that status. I don‘t think it‘s just the luxury they couldn‘t do without, I think it‘s their entire world view and hence their “happiness” @Lcsmcat (edited) 1mo
CarolynM Just to clarify, I‘m not saying they‘re right to think that way, just that it‘s not surprising. We are all products of our upbringing even if life takes us in a different direction. 1mo
jewright I was surprised at the end of this section. I thought for sure Suzy would go through with the marriage just for the financial perks. Although, it would really suck to marry someone whose kisses you could barely tolerate. 1mo
jewright @Lcsmcat I liked that line too. 1mo
AllDebooks Anyone else get Pride and Prejudice vibes? The miscommunication, the detached aloofness, pride and judgemental attitude. I'm stunned by the length of time Nick has avoided dealing with the situation he brought on himself. I have hope for Suzy after her caring for Clarissa. She's starting to question both her choices, previous decisions and what makes her truly happy. Really enjoying this one, although it's a simple plot. 1mo
AllDebooks Edith Wharton writes with masterful, elegant exactitude. 1mo
AllDebooks @Graywacke I hope you're ok, you've been very quiet on #NaturaLitsy lately. Not a criticism, only an observation! You've been missed. Irl can get too much and escapism in a good book provides a healthy respite. I do it all the time x 1mo
Graywacke @AllDebooks I‘m still following. My reading is down this last month, as is my online interaction. Just in the wrong headspace momentarily. So I‘m being less ambitious in what I expect to read in a week. I skipped Wilding and I‘ll skip the bee book, but I‘m interested in what will be next. 1mo
AllDebooks @Graywacke keep keeping on and do what you gotta do. Hope you're able to relax and take time out for yourself x 1mo
Lcsmcat @CarolynM I think you‘re right, and that‘s what I was trying to get at. I wonder at what stage of her divorce and leaving the US for France Wharton was at when she wrote this? Was she wrestling with some of these issues herself? Or remembering wrestling with them? 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @CarolynM I believe Wharton had been in Paris, divorced, since 1911 or 1912. This was published in 1922. She was a long time bachelorette by this point. (But i have to imagine her marital trials plays into all her novels, maybe especially in the Countess in Age of Innocence(??). But surely here too(??)) checking my facts… 1mo
Graywacke Wikipedia: The Mount was her primary residence until 1911. … When her marriage deteriorated, she decided to move permanently to France… (missing the word “divorce”) (edited) 1mo
Graywacke More Wikipedia: In 1908, Teddy Wharton's mental condition was determined to be incurable. In that year, Wharton began an affair with Morton Fullerton, an author and foreign correspondent for The Times of London, in whom she found an intellectual partner. She divorced Edward Wharton in 1913, after 28 years of marriage. 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke So could she have been a bit envious of the later acceptance (relatively speaking) of divorce? But very aware of the repercussions of leaving “society?” 1mo
dabbe @Lcsmcat I agree. Grace seems to be the only friend that Susy has whose character shows depth and whose marriage is real. I answered a question on Litsy that required just 6 words to sum up the book you were currently reading. I wrote: Will these two finally get together? 🤣 1mo
Lcsmcat @dabbe 😂😂😂 1mo
Graywacke @dabbe perfect 👌🙂 1mo
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The Glimpses of the Moon | Edith Wharton
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I finished this week thinking this was a transition section, that we‘re waiting to see what will actually happen. But looking over my notes a lot happens. Our year of bliss dissolves in moralistic self righteousness. Nick runs off, writes a terrible letter and climbs aboard with the very likable Coral Hicks. Susy heads to Paris and has a marriage proposal from Streph, care of a tragic accident. Where to, dear Edith? Thoughts?

AllDebooks I'm all over the place with this one! Edith has sketched out an array of privileged people with aplomb. I find this very reminiscent of Waugh. There seems to be a very yin/yang balance between the rich and their 'parasites'. All have something to gain and the interweaving relationships are complex to say the least. There doesn't seem to be an awful lot of communication going on here between Nick and Suzy. Can it all be put down to heedless ⬇️⬇️ 1mo
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AllDebooks Naivety on Suzy's part or judgemental arrogance on Nick's. Very cowardly and bewildering reaction from him. 1mo
IndoorDame Since we‘ve mostly focused on specific moral choices so far, small and more sweeping in scope, I‘m thinking at least one of our couple will be remarried by the time they meet up again 1mo
Graywacke @IndoorDame Noooooo! … sorry. Yeah, maybe. 😒🙁☹️ 1mo
IndoorDame @Graywacke just a theory, 🤷🏻‍♀️I could just as easily be wrong and our lovers future could come up roses 🌹🔮🥀 1mo
batsy I found this immensely readable and so different from the Whartons I've read that I've finished, & am afraid to comment in case I reveal something 🤐 But I'm glad that you think Coral is likeable; I think so too and I wanted so much more of her. Also yes to the self-righteousness on Nick's part! 1mo
Graywacke @AllDebooks I haven‘t read Waugh, but sounds right. And i was happy Wharton used “parasite”, since that was my own word too. ☺️ But anyway, I think i feel the same that we are all over the place, maybe even on every page. And these relationships are complex and curious. I was fascinated by Nelson Vanderlyn, who certainly must know something. (And Fred Gillow always makes me smile) 1mo
Graywacke @IndoorDame not sure Wharton does roses… 🤔 1mo
IndoorDame @Graywacke I feel like I should say there‘s a first time for everything, but I‘m really not the eternal optimist. Maybe that‘s why I‘m reading Wharton 🤔💡 1mo
Graywacke @batsy oh, let it out! We can bash Wharton here too. 🙂 But, I‘m glad you‘re finding this one readable too! I find I‘m getting a little needed release when reading it. 1mo
jewright Well, that went south in a hurry. I guess I was surprised Strefford wanted to marry her. Babysitting five kids would definitely make me consider other options too! 1mo
Graywacke @jewright Violet is so funny. Offering jewelry (and cute emotional disappointment). Phew, that would have been a commitment! (And, yeah, in a hurry. They‘re so impulsive) 1mo
batsy Oh no, to be clear, I loved it! I'm just afraid of spoiling it accidentally by talking about something that happens in a later chapter ? it's the slimy Strefford that gives me the same vibes as how I felt when reading House of Mirth—it seems like a respectable way "out" of her troubles for Susy, but you know it's going to be the slow death of her soul type thing. 1mo
Graywacke @batsy ah, ok. i thought you were withholding Wharton comments, but you were holding on spoilers. Thanks for holding off on spoilers. I haven‘t figured out reserved steady Streph yet. (I think his timing is awkward, at best, quite awful, at worst.) 1mo
AllDebooks @batsy Absolutely agree re Strefford. #shudders They all seem very adept at manipulating people to get what they want, but I feel Strefford in particular, is too good. 🫣 1mo
AllDebooks I also found it peculiar that there was no correspondence between Nick and Suzy, other than his initial note. Admittedly, Suzy didn't know where he was, but for it to drag on for so long with no explanation is tortuous. Being ghosted by text is bad enough, imagine what it must feel like via snail mail 😱 1mo
arubabookwoman I'm annoyed at Nick going so morally offended at Suzy's actions re Elsie's letters. Her actions were totally consistent with the premises on which they married. Once again we're seeing the consequences of the failure to communicate, such a common theme with Wharton. At this point I think Suzy is actually in love with Nick, but Wharton reinforces several times Suzy's inability to live w/o the perks of the rich, which Nick can't afford. 1mo
Currey @IndoorDame @Graywacke But it is Wharton, does anything come up roses with Wharton? Well thorns maybe…. 1mo
Currey @Graywacke I am thoroughly enjoying this one. It feels slightly “lighter” to me. Wharton‘s usual tightly constrained societal rules have definitely loosened over time. The moral ambiguity isn‘t as impossible to understand. Of course, stealing cigars or posting letters is not quite in the same category as mercy killing or talking someone out of a divorce. 1mo
IndoorDame @arubabookwoman I‘m annoyed at the degree of his outrage too! Unless the message we‘re building towards is a subtle ultra feminist men don‘t understand the emotional labor women need to maintain in society kind of message (which I think is too far ahead of its time to be an actual possibility here) then Nick knew the basics of who he was marrying and everything their life meant 1mo
Lcsmcat @IndoorDame With Wharton for an author? I‘m not smelling 💐 1mo
Lcsmcat @AllDebooks Maybe being ghosted by snail mail is easier to take because letters took longer, so you could always invent a reason that you hadn‘t heard yet? 1mo
Lcsmcat @IndoorDame I don‘t think Wharton would use the _term_ emotional labor, but she certainly understood the concept. So I think you might be on to something there. 1mo
AllDebooks @Lcsmcat that's true, but I think his silence is very cruel 1mo
Lcsmcat @AllDebooks Ih absolutely! He‘s punishing Suzy for his own confusion and moral choices. 1mo
Lcsmcat One quote that rang so clearly to me with Wharton‘s less-than-optimistic-yet-humorous outlook was: “those who consent to share the bread of adversity may want the whole cake of prosperity for themselves.” I can‘t help but wonder if she‘s foreshadowing here. 1mo
Leftcoastzen Late to the party , love everyone‘s comments. The waiting is the hardest part! I think it‘s amazing any correspondence gets through when they move about like this! Through banks , embassies hotels, friends, errand boys! Sheesh 1mo
Leftcoastzen What was a bit infuriating but predictable , how Mrs.Melrose wants to stick her with multiple children, they are already pegging her as someone running out of options so if she wants to be part of this group without funds , she will be asked to be of use. 1mo
CarolynM Totally agree @arubabookwoman I highlighted that quote too @Lcsmcat It seems to me that this story is another look at what it takes to be part of a wealthy social group when you‘ve no money of your own so yes, @batsy I‘m reminded of Lily in House of Mirth but also of Ellen in The Age of Innocence and even John and Justine in The Fruit of the Tree and Sophy in The Reef. 👇 1mo
CarolynM ☝️I fear I‘m an outlier here - I don‘t find Coral very appealing at this stage and I think Strefford is genuine and quite likeable 🫤😟 @batsy @AllDebooks 1mo
Lcsmcat @CarolynM I‘m not sure about Strefford yet, but I‘m with you on Coral. I find her as manipulative as the others. 1mo
batsy @CarolynM It definitely reminded me of House of Mirth but in a lighter vein. Though this being Wharton "lighter" is up for debate ? 1mo
dabbe @jewright Amen! I just finished AGNES GREY, and being in charge of any kid except your own isn't worth the effort! 🤣🤣🤣 1mo
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Black Boy | Richard Wright
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My next book. Started today.

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I‘ve started this anthology from 1996 (and I‘ve owned it long enough that there was a Borders bookmark inside).

slategreyskies Ah, I used to work at Borders. That brings back memories! :) 2mo
Graywacke @slategreyskies i do miss it. I miss the wonder of bookstores. 2mo
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Collected Poems | Donald Justice
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I'm just not a very good poetry reader. I really wanted to like this. I love that David Justice is a major 20th-century poet out of depression era Miami - the time and place where my grandparents were struggling to start their adult lives. But I just never felt I linked into this. It had its moments, some very meaningful to me. But much of this felt to me like not very much about not very much. Seems likely I missed a lot.

Tamra I am not a very good poetry reader either; I‘m better if it has a nature focus. I do love Ted Kooser though! Very accessible & observant. Now I think I‘ll pull out my collection for perusal - you‘ve inspired me. 😊 2mo
Graywacke @Tamra I‘m so happy to create some inspiration 👍— especially on a downer review. I haven‘t read Kooser. I feel like i need to see some what an author is getting at within the poem, or my brain doesn‘t know what to do with it. Justice was having a dialogue with works and authors I‘m not familiar with. That didn‘t help me. 2mo
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The Sea Around Us | Rachel Carson
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A time-capsule gem. A 1951 overview of what was known about the oceans - the sea life, the tides, bathymetry, geology (before plate tectonics!), ocean currents, weather, sediments and salt and oil exploration, and human history. She looks into warming oceans, rising sea levels and how all this effects the weather (in 1951!). It's biology, geology, climate, all wrapped together with the knowledge of that time. And it's elegantly written. Terrific.

Graywacke I was mixed on her first book, Under the Sea Wind, despite its poetic writing (and exceptional reader). I was much more fully taken in this time. 2mo
KathyWheeler I‘m reading Under the Sea Wind right now, and have read The Edge of the Sea. The Sea Around Us is by far my favorite. 2mo
AllDebooks Great review, so glad you enjoyed it x 2mo
Graywacke @AllDebooks thanks 🙂 @KathyWheeler I‘m finding The Edge of the Sea is asking a lot of me. I‘m trying not to let my mind wander too much while I‘m listening. 2mo
KathyWheeler @Graywacke Under the Sea Wind is doing that to me. I‘m reading the ebook and can only read a couple of pages at a time. 2mo
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The Glimpses of the Moon | Edith Wharton
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Chapters 1-8 #whartonbuddyread

An opening gimmick, begging for stress, catastrophe and, of course, jealousy. But does it feel gimmicky, hanging out romantically on Lake Como and Venice,
surrounded by the wealthiest Americans and removed from the real world? Almost a garden of eden, if thorns everywhere.

And, another question, on time: This promises a lovely study of how “now” is forever, until it isn‘t. Any one else thinking on this?

IndoorDame It felt oddly modern in that they both know this relationship won‘t last and as much as they want it to and stress about the future privately, they won‘t talk to each other for fear of breaking the spell 2mo
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Lcsmcat And breaking that spell is going to hit them hard, I‘m afraid! 2mo
batsy I like that—"almost a garden of Eden, if thorns everywhere". There was something so dreamlike with the set up, and you just know that Wharton is orchestrating a fall ? 2mo
batsy (I loved it, though. The prose so lush at times!) 2mo
Lcsmcat @batsy Yes, her prose and her humor are on display here. “Mr. and Mrs. Hicks were equally and majestically three-dimensional” 😂 2mo
arubabookwoman After a few books in which Wharton examines the strictures of societal norms, here she is again looking at characters making moral choices, as we saw in some of her earlier books. Suzy makes the"wrong" choice in her husband's view about stocking up on good cigars from the 1st place they stayed. In Venice she makes the choice to stay and cover for Elsie's love affair. She tells herself she's doing it for the sake of Elsie's daughter.?????? 2mo
arubabookwoman What do you think? She doesn't even tell her husband about it, wh I suspect is going to get her in trouble later. He did make the"right" choice about the cigars, but would he have made the moral choice and have left the villa rather than cover for Elsie? Hard to tell. After all he did choose to marry Suzy just until something better came along. I don't have my copy at hand, will try to add some quotes later. 2mo
arubabookwoman One thing I wanted to note about Elsie leaving her daughter Clarissa to be ignored by the servants, we have seen in at least 2 earlier works how the rich basically live their lives with little regard for their children. This b/cs the theme of Wharton's next book, The Children, which I hope we will continue with. In it she looks at a group of children, half- and step- sibs and hangers on who are dragged around Europe and ignored while👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 2mo
arubabookwoman their parents marry and divorce and have affairs. When I read it I wondered whether Nabokov was aware of it when he wrote Lolita, because it centers on a 30-something man who becomes enchanted/obsessed with the oldest child, a teenager who is in charge of her brood of younger "siblings." Clarissa's plight here really echoed the theme of The Children, which I hadn't noticed before. 2mo
dabbe What a lifestyle they have! I'm not sure I even like Nick and Suzy much for the grifters they are (or is grifter too harsh of a word?). It's fascinating to observe this opulent lifestyle of the early 1900s, and how these people move from villa to villa, obviously bored with their lives and constantly seeking something ... I'm reminded of Daisy in GATSBY: “What do people plan?“ 2mo
Graywacke @arubabookwoman this quote my be relevant to your post: “Susy, thrown on the world at seventeen, with only a weak wastrel of a father to define that treacherous line for her, and with every circumstance soliciting her to overstep it, seemed to have been preserved chiefly by an innate scorn of most of the objects of human folly. "Such trash as he went to pieces for," was her curt comment on her parent's premature demise: ?? 2mo
Graywacke 👆👆 as though she accepted in advance the necessity of ruining one's self for something, but was resolved to discriminate firmly between what was worth it and what wasn't.” 2mo
Graywacke A quote pertaining to my time thoughts: "Oh, I say, don't let's talk tonight about going. Aren't we outside of time and space...?” 2mo
Graywacke @IndoorDame I think the 1920‘s were very modern in some ways. Also I think their inability to talk (reflective to me of The Fruit of the Tree) sets us up for expecting the worst. But it‘s not stuff that‘s easy to talk about… 2mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @batsy - aren‘t the prose and atmosphere so much intertwined? 2mo
Graywacke @arubabookwoman one thought about the moral choices here. There is a dilemma. They have bought into a really compromised path, one that really is not fit for anyone with scruples. My take is that their morality is really out of place. It‘s impossible. I think the apple was what they paid to get into this garden. The rest is how they accommodate themselves to this original sin. 🙂 2mo
Graywacke @dabbe I‘m good with grifters. I call them parasites. 🙂 i like your Gatsby reference. I read it in high school, and that‘s a long time ago. But I think Gatsby (what i dimly remember of it) is a decent parallel to this world. 2mo
arubabookwoman @Graywacke Agree. That choice to get married looms over all over choices, so the cigars and covering for Elsie pale in comparison to that initial decision. It is no spoiler to say that their original choice is going to be the crux of where this novel is going. (I've read it before but remember very few details). 2mo
Lcsmcat @dabbe I agree with @Graywacke , grifters is not too harsh. 2mo
jewright I‘m just waiting for something to go wrong. I feel as if I‘m being set up for a sad ending. I don‘t trust Wharton to have any sort of cheery ending. I did feel so sorry for Clarissa. Imagine just being left behind by your parents! 2mo
Lcsmcat @arubabookwoman The choice to marry as they did is like the tragic flaw in a Greek tragedy. It‘s going to be their undoing no matter how many “moral” choices they make later. 2mo
Lcsmcat I found these quotes about Ellie so telling of the whole society “I was meant to be happy,” that lady continued, as if the possession of so unusual a characteristic singled her out for special privileges.” and “she said, in the tone of tender solicitude with which she always discussed her own difficulties.” 👇🏻 (edited) 2mo
Lcsmcat 👆🏻and wonder if Suzy is starting to get the idea that she‘s not much better than Ellie, by her reaction to them. 2mo
Currey @Lcsmcat @arubabookwoman It does appear that we are being set up to watch the tragedy of largely making the right choices but because it is all based on one fundamentally wrong choice, it will all fall apart. I am loving the language and tone here however. It is “lighter” than so many of her other works. 2mo
Currey “I knew her when she was still lovely” 2mo
Currey And of course Wharton‘s trademark willful miscommunication. 2mo
Louise Book Friends, I have enjoyed all your comments. I‘ve been sick with a virus so will have to catch up when my mind is clearer—hopefully by the next discussion! Just wanted to say hello! 👋 2mo
CarolynM As usual I am late getting started😬 I‘ll catch you up next week. Hope you‘re feeling better soon @Louise (edited) 2mo
batsy @Lcsmcat She is so sardonic! I love the little jibes at Nick's writing, as well, like under the guise of fiction he could get away with saying stuff "at the expense of less learning than if he had tried to put his ideas into an essay". Shots fired (at herself too, lol) 2mo
batsy @Louise Hello! Take care and I hope you're feeling better soon. 2mo
Louise @CarolynM @batsy Thanks for your well-wishes! 😊 Tonight I was well enough to do a bit of knitting, which felt good after such a long time of feeling useless. 🧶 2mo
Lcsmcat @Louise I‘m glad you‘re feeling a little better. Hope it continues! 2mo
Lcsmcat @batsy Those jibes reminded me of Austen in Northhanger Abbey. 2mo
AllDebooks I haven't got past chapter 1 yet, as not particularly enamoured with characters. 2mo
Louise @Lcsmcat Thanks for your good wishes! 🤗 2mo
Leftcoastzen I missed the discussion but got this far , so finished these chapters but not next weeks . Love everyone‘s comments. I think a lot of it is Whartons acknowledging the death of the society she knew , the marriage has a bit of the let‘s fiddle while Rome burns quality.And always, the rich abandoning the children to servants ! Yikes . 1mo
CarolynM I‘ve finally caught you up! I like your garden of Eden take here, but I wonder whether the “marrying for the cheques” was in fact an excuse they were each using because they were in love with each other, but couldn‘t bring themselves to admit it. That also explains why they couldn‘t have an honest conversation about their choices and makes N‘s moralising even harder to take. @arubabookwoman You‘ve made me very keen to read The Children. 1mo
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I had fun ordering/buying/requesting books on my birthday. They‘ve all arrived now. 😍🙂☺️

JamieArc Happy Belated Birthday 🎉. May these gifts keep giving for a long time 😁 2mo
Ruthiella Happy Birthday! 🥳 Enjoy your stack. 😀 2mo
IndoorDame Happy birthday! Birthday books are the best! 2mo
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Graywacke @JamieArc long time… yeah, a bit of a chunk to add to my tbr pile. @Ruthiella I hope to enjoy these. @IndoorDame I agree! They come guilt free. Thanks all 2mo
CarolynM Ooo! You did well! Happy belated birthday 🥳 2mo
batsy Happy birthday! You did well—the best presents 🎁🎉 2mo
DivineDiana Wishing you a year filled with great books! Looks like you are ready to begin! 🥳👏🏻📚 2mo
Tamra I really enjoyed this one - I hope you do too! Happy Reading Birthday! 📖 2mo
Graywacke @CarolynM @batsy ☺️ thanks! @DivineDiana it‘s a good start. 🙂 2mo
Graywacke @Tamra someone suggested I read Enoch next. (I read Tinkers shortly after it won the Pulitzer.) so i will probably read them in order. They are a trilogy, as far as I understand. So it shouldn‘t make a real difference. 2mo
Tamra @Graywacke 😲 it‘s a trilogy? I didn‘t know that and now I‘m happily going book browsing! 2mo
Graywacke *not 🤦🏻‍♂️ Sorry! Pesky little word i have a habit of neglecting to actually type. They are -not- a trilogy. 😁☺️ 2mo
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Tamra @Graywacke 😆 well I‘ll still investigate! 2mo
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The Edge of the Sea | Rachel Carson, Sue Hubbell
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The Romance of the Rose | Guillaume (de Lorris), Jean (de Meun)
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(Illustration is from a 1405 illuminated manuscript. Link in comments.)

So I read this because Chaucer translated it (from Middle French to Middle English). There are a number of beautiful medieval manuscripts still around. This playful story about a lovesick youth trying to get back to his beloved rose in the garden, and all its graphic innuendos and playful philosophy, was a big hit in its day. Some dry spells, but I enjoyed it.

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The Edge of the Sea | Rachel Carson, Sue Hubbell
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Working my way through Carson‘s four books on audio. I started this one, from 1955, yesterday. The warming of the oceans was already known and an important topic.

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The Glimpses of the Moon | Edith Wharton
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About time for me to begin (in my case, public domain, kindle format) #whartonbuddyread

batsy Same format for me! I've started and it's lighter and more screwball romcom-y than I expected, which is nice. 2mo
Lcsmcat Same format, except mine is part of a “complete works of” volume. 2mo
dabbe I bought some book online that has ZERO PAGE NUMBERS! How does one do that to a book? WHO would do that to a book? 🤣🤣🤣 2mo
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Graywacke @batsy I‘m enjoying the atmosphere. 🙂 2mo
Graywacke @batsy @Lcsmcat @dabbe well, cheers for ebooks. @dabble - the kindle pages are very annoying too. It‘s like 1.5? or something real pages for each Kindle page (which apparently are formatted on legal paper or something weird like that. The graphic is all long narrow pages) 2mo
Daisey I started the audio on my drive to work today and was entertained by the first chapter. 2mo
Lcsmcat @batsy Knowing how Wharton treats most of her characters, I‘m worried for Nick and Susy! 2mo
batsy @Lcsmcat 😬🤞🏾 2mo
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Love Visions | Geoffrey Chaucer
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The playful opening to House of Fame (c1379?), pondering the nature of dreams.

I started this collection of four poetic works yesterday. In my year of Chaucer, I‘m only just now actually reading him - or a modern verse translation anyway.

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The Photograph | Penelope Lively
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A widower finds a photograph of his diseased wife discretely but intimately holding hands with another man.

While the response lights up obsessive, if cooly reptilian, thoughts, with emotions circling, it's still a thinner baseline to a story than I might have anticipated. But it's well written, and I enjoyed it.

dabbe Da sweetest pensive puppy! 💜🐾💜 2mo
CarolynM I want to read all of Penelope Lively. I have a copy of this one but I haven‘t go to it yet. Your review makes me think I should read it soon. 2mo
Aimeesue Lively is so good. And what a beautiful pup! 2mo
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batsy 🐶😍 2mo
Graywacke @dabbe @Aimeesue @batsy (this only applies when no one is around but…) Pepper, or pup, is really a sweetie. 2mo
Graywacke @CarolynM me too! ☺️ I ordered Ammonites and Leaping Fish for a self-birthday present, and it arrived last night. And, @Aimeesue - completely agree about Lively. 2mo
dabbe @Graywacke Is she a German shepherd? She looks so much like my Kate! 💜 2mo
Graywacke @dabbe she‘s a mutt. Mom was a rescue. But she has the German Shepherd coloring and (anxiety!) 2mo
dabbe @Graywacke She certainly does! And she is GORGEOUS! Funny about the anxiety. When Kate is in full-blown-barking-I'm-going-to-kill-everyone mode, my husband and I call her our Little G for Little General. 🤣 2mo
Graywacke @dabbe we tell people she‘s our social distancing dog ☺️ (edited) 2mo
dabbe @Graywacke 🤣🤣🤣 2mo
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Small Things Like These | Claire Keegan
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A look at the Irish Magdelan laundries completes the #Booker2022 longlist for me.

The opening to this novella is quiet and mundane. But as story tensions develop, that opening style becomes a sturdy story framework. I got into it and enjoyed it and I had only about 2 hours in which to do that because it‘s really short.

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Treacle Walker | ALAN. GARNER
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A child's perspectives of folklore and magic, one that is strikingly playful with language. I can relay that, but I actually struggled with this book. It demands you meet its playful-thoughtful-childish-not-childish mindset. But it's so short that I finished well before I had a chance to do that, so I didn't get much out of it. But, still, it was nice to get a window into this Alan Garner experience. #Booker2022

Aimeesue Backlisted did a nice podcast on this one. Sounded very interesting. 2mo
Graywacke @Aimeesue i‘ve love Backlisted. But I‘m a terribly unreliable listener. I‘ve heard maybe 5 or 6 episodes. I would like the find this one 2mo
Aimeesue Ugh. I forgot they make looking for a specific podcast so difficult. Here you go! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/backlisted/id1063252175?i=1000541157710 2mo
Graywacke @Aimeesue whoa, Nov 2021! Thank you so much for searching for and finding that. 2mo
Aimeesue @Graywacke I‘d just listened to it this week, and hadn‘t played it to the end, so it was still in my queue. Figured I‘d save you a hunt. Enjoy! (Spoiler: they REALLY liked it. 😂 And it does have some nice audio clips of Garner.) I‘m looking forward to reading it - the Backlisted descriptions reminded me a bit of The Dark is Rising, which I really enjoyed. 2mo
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After Sappho: A Novel | Selby Wynn Schwartz
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A reflection on Sappho‘s and history‘s fragments. We are left with so little Sappho, we can only confront the lost and unrecoverable. Here a handful of famous fin de siècle lesbians form a comparable set of fragments of a lost, repressed world. I lost my mom while in the middle of this book, which is why i‘ve been so quiet here. When i got back to the book, it had unfortunately lost its magic. But it deserves a look.

dabbe I am so sorry. 😞 You're in my thoughts. 😊 2mo
sarahbarnes I‘m so sorry about your mom. I am reading this book at the moment. 2mo
Chrissyreadit I‘m sorry. I‘m sure this is a difficult time. ❤️ 2mo
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WorldsOkayestStepMom I'm so sorry for your loss. 2mo
TheKidUpstairs I'm so sorry for your loss. Sending hugs to you and your family. 2mo
jlhammar So sorry to hear of your loss. My condolences. 2mo
xicanti I‘m so sorry about your mom. 2mo
Suet624 Oh gosh. I‘m so sorry. 2mo
JamieArc Holding you in the light 🕯️ 2mo
Leftcoastzen So sorry about your mom. Sending you hugs and condolences. 2mo
psalva I‘m sorry to hear of your loss! My condolences. 2mo
Billypar I'm so sorry to hear this - sending best wishes to you and your family 🩵 2mo
Ruthiella So sorry for your loss. You have my condolences, ❤️ 2mo
eeclayton I'm sorry for your loss ! 2mo
batsy I'm so sorry to hear this. My condolences to your and your family ❤️ 2mo
erzascarletbookgasm My condolences to you and your family. ❤️ 2mo
AnneCecilie I‘m so sorry for your loss ❤️ 2mo
MicheleinPhilly I‘m so sorry to hear this. Sending you ❤️. 2mo
Tamra Take care. 💜 2mo
Graywacke @Tamra thank you 2mo
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The Glimpses of the Moon | Edith Wharton
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Just a reminder
#whartonbuddyread

TheBookHippie Yay! 2mo
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CarolynM Thanks Dan 2mo
batsy Thank you! Looking forward to this. 2mo
Leftcoastzen WooHoo! 2mo
arubabookwoman Oops. I thought 1st session was today, and I also kept reading, and am now at chapter 10. Just wanted to say, this is a good one! 2mo
Graywacke @arubabookwoman 🙂 that‘s a great head-start 😆 i‘m trying to decide when to start myself …and also whether i should post another reminder today. 2mo
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The Sea Around Us | Rachel Carson
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My current audiobook

(With fascinating time-capsule geology. This is written in 1951, a decade before the basic theory of plate tectonics was worked out.)

Bookwormjillk Wow, I didn‘t realize that wasn‘t worked out until relatively recently. 3mo
Graywacke @Bookwormjillk pretty amazing, right?It‘s so fundamental to understanding the earth, but it wasn‘t worked out until after WWII sea floor mapping was available, and, next, once sea floor magnetic striping was discovered (~1963). The idea of continental drift is much older, but lacked a feasible physical mechanism. So Carson correctly doesn‘t bring it up. 3mo
KathyWheeler I just checked this out as my new walking book. 3mo
Graywacke @KathyWheeler cool! Curious what you will think about it. 3mo
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Carson‘s first book is a striking poetic-prose tour through the US eastern coastal world. Published in 1941 shortly before Pearl Harbor, this was lost until the success of next books.

I listened after learning about Carson and her eels in The Book of Eels by Patrik Svensson, read recently with #naturalitsy

Pictured is a black skimmer

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Native Son | Richard Wright
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Whoa!

A look at the human cost of racism without pity - well, that's the idea. What comes out is some insanely and uncomfortable intense tension using a Shakespeare-like villain—all calculation without consequential foresight—confined in racist space. This is followed by a lot of contemplation, some of it awkward and with an agenda. No literary work of perfection, but a powerful and uncomfortable novel.

(Richard Wright is a 2023 theme for me)

KathyWheeler Maybe that‘s how I‘ll finally read this book — make Wright my theme for a year or even a few months. 3mo
Graywacke @KathyWheeler 🙂 He only has three major books. Lots of non-major stuff, though. 3mo
Billypar Great review - you summed it up perfectly. I would have loved it, but I thought the ending was disappointing. 3mo
Graywacke @Billypar thanks. I don‘t know that I could have loved this, but i‘m glad to have read it. As for the ending, 🤷🏻‍♂️ 3mo
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The Age of Innocence | Edith Wharton
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The novel where Wharton revisits that insanely wealthy world she grew up in, 1870‘s New York‘s wealthy established families and their stifling culture. She criticizes this old lost New York world, but remains very attracted to. It comes out beautiful.

Thanks #whartonbuddyread for all the chat and posts. This was my first time reading this.

TheBookHippie I loved this one -I‘ve not read it in decades 🤣♥️may need to add this to summer reading. 3mo
Graywacke @TheBookHippie it‘s really terrific. We‘re doing Glimpses of the Moon next if you need a Wharton fix. 😁😇😁 3mo
TheBookHippie @Graywacke I‘m fairly sure that‘s on my kindle! Count me in. 3mo
batsy Yes! It does come out beautiful ✨ 3mo
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For baseball fans - the story of the cheating scandal behind the 2017 World Series champions, my team. Drellich broke the story with Ken Rosenthal, and here covers how a fantasy baseball aficionado from Wharton used a NASA engineer and an investment banker among others to help build a team by analytics and any technology available (within the rules or not).

Bookwormjillk Sounds good! 3mo
Graywacke @Bookwormjillk it was cool to get so much insight into the way the front office worked and into why they made various moves. 3mo
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After Sappho: A Novel | Selby Wynn Schwartz
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Oh, Ovid

Jury duty day 3. This is -not- conductive to finding reading time. Unexpected breaks and unexpected ends of these breaks. Unpredictable time all day.

I think, with Heroides, Ovid gives us the only Roman-perspective sympathetic view of woman. (Maybe a touch also in Metamorphoses.) Don‘t trust him.

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After Sappho: A Novel | Selby Wynn Schwartz
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Not as nice as yesterday. I‘m now on a jury and spending my morning in a courthouse Lubys.

Also, I started After Sappho and it reminds me of reading a collection of her known fragments, which took all of about 2 hours. Our one western classical female author of stature was lost. (Is there another?) We‘ve lost every book, and are left with tantalizing fragments of poems. Here these pieces are played into feminine suppression.

swishandflick I've low key always wanted to be picked for a jury, lol 3mo
batsy Jury duty! That's so fascinating. 3mo
Graywacke @swishandflick ha. I‘m not recommending it. 🙂 @Batsy - despite my wanting to not be here, it is actually an interesting experience. 3mo
batsy That's cool! All I know about it I learned from American crime shows 😆 3mo
Graywacke @batsy 😂 The jury thing is strange and unpredictable. You hear the whole trial without speaking a word of it to anyone on the jury. Only when it comes time to make a decision do you find out what each person thinks. It‘a a strange moment to realize each person had their own train of thought, and each one you would never have had. 3mo
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The Romance of the Rose | Guillaume (de Lorris), Jean (de Meun)
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The painful side consequences of downtown jury duty. (Campesina Cafe, downtown Houston)

Lcsmcat Did you actually get seated on a jury? I‘ve never been called, but I suspect my training as a paralegal would keep me from being seated. 3mo
Graywacke Twice previously, but today is unknown. A summons. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat well - now i‘ve been selected. 3-day trial. ☹️ (and, maybe weird for me, but I love the ncaa basketball tournament 1st round. I may miss almost all of the 1st round.) 3mo
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dabbe Is there any way to listen with some airpods? I guess then you wouldn't hear the case, so probably not. The upside is that they chose an intelligent juror who will do an excellent job! 😊 3mo
Lcsmcat @dabbe Yeah, they would frown on air pods for sure! @Graywacke I‘m sorry you‘re missing the games! But maybe it will be an interesting case. 3mo
Graywacke @dabbe @Lcsmcat phones off during trial. ☹️ But good idea. Can‘t comment on the case 🙊 but…🙈 3mo
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The Age of Innocence | Edith Wharton
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“Ah—i‘ve had to. I‘ve had to look at the Gorgon.”

#whartonbuddyread
Mar 11 - chapter 28-34 (the end)

A section of Newland, Ellen, Catherine Mingott, May and Dallas. As Newland plans to commit to Ellen, May resolves everything. Then an epilogue 25 years later, happy, but so bittersweet. I‘m mainly left with an image of an empty Paris park bench. Thoughts? I‘ll post some questions in the comments.

Graywacke (My first thought on finishing is that you were right, @Lcsmcat , Newland would have held out for the second marshmallow.) 3mo
Graywacke Come back to this later, after you post your own thoughts. These were some questions I had on mind (most were inspired by the introduction in my copy by Regina Barrenca)

1. One of Newland‘s contradictions:He imagines woman as acted upon, but here they are the ones who act, while he hesitates, Hamlet-like. Does Newland prevents his own affair?
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Graywacke 2. May‘s victory - we might see it differently in our world, but in May‘s world she pulled off a masterpiece victory. It was really brilliant and smart. Was it a win for Newland too? And for Ellen?
3. With that in mind, is this a feminist work?
4. Did you sense Wharton had a natural affinity with Ellen, a fellow single woman in Paris?
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Graywacke 5. My introduction identifies Ellen as “unassimilable” in this NY society. That she can‘t be relied upon to play her part. She doesn‘t have a role. You agree? What would you do in her place?
6. If Archers had a real job, one that was actually difficult and trying, would it make a difference? How? Is this just a story of leisure?
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Graywacke Some quotes in the Gorgon
“Ah—i‘ve had to. I‘ve had to look at the Gorgon.”
“Well—it hasn‘t blinded you! You‘ve seen that she‘s just an old bogey like all the others.”
“She doesn‘t blind one, but she dries up one‘s tears.”
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Graywacke “Oh, my dear—where is that country? Have you ever been there?” … “I know many who have tried to find it; and, believe me, they all got out by mistake at wayside stations: at places like Boulogne, or Pisa, or Monte Carlo—and it wasn‘t at all different from the old world they‘d left, but only rather smaller and dingier and more promiscuous.” 👇👇 3mo
Graywacke 👆👆 …

“Yes, the Gorgon has dried your tears”
“Well, she opened my eyes, too; it‘s a delusion to say that she blinds people. What she does is just the contrary—she fastens their eyelids open, so that they‘re never again in the blessed darkness.”
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Graywacke (This is arguably another reference to the title. Newland still lives in the Age of Innocence, but Ellen has graduated) (edited) 3mo
Currey @Graywacke @Lcsmcat Quite amazing ending. Not the actual recap of 25 years later so much, but how Wharton left me so full of empathy even to the hapless Newland and the “unimaginative” May, (who was able, in fact, to imagine a way out of her problem). 3mo
Currey @Graywacke Classic Wharton on communication: “She never asked me.”…and Dallas saying: “No, I forgot. You never did ask each other anything…” 3mo
Currey @Graywacke. The ending where Newland is musing on his inarticulate life, which in the end he decides to continue rather than face a woman who has truly lived and who might ask him about himself and his life. 3mo
Currey Also loved that Dallas marries a Beaufort and no one judges him for it 3mo
Ann_Reads I only think Wharton had more of an affinity with Ellen, as we readers seem to get far more insights into her character than May, granted it's through Newland's eyes. I suspect Wharton found it easier to write about Ellen vs May (or devoted more time to overt observations about Ellen). That is all just my personal conjecture though and might be completely off base. With May, I was left guessing more of the time as to what she was thinking or knew. 3mo
Lcsmcat @Currey May, I agree, knew how to work within the system to get what she wanted. Ellen seemed to get what she wanted by working against the system. Newland just muddled along not quite knowing what he wanted. 3mo
Lcsmcat I found the ending very telling of Newland‘s character. He cared more about his perception of Ellen than her reality. 3mo
Lcsmcat Also, my grandson is still here. I‘ll check in on the rest of the discussion when he goes home. 🙂 3mo
Louise I‘m still behind with reading this one, though I‘m still reading it aloud to my mom. Trying to get caught up in time to participate fully in the next book‘s discussions. I‘m enjoying all your comments! 3mo
Lcsmcat In response to questions 2 & 3, I do think this is a feminist work. Both Ellen and May were more aware and active in their fates than Newland gave them credit for, and possibly more than he was in his own life. As for 6, I don‘t think a better job would have helped, because he wouldn‘t commit to it. As he couldn‘t to politics. I think he just had that kind of personality. 3mo
Currey @Lcsmcat I agree, Newland did not seem to have it in him to problem solve and he did not expect any satisfaction from working so I think he would not have had a better life with a better job. 3mo
Currey @Graywacke Do you think Ellen had a good life given what Wharton has given us? I assumed that she did based on Newland‘s musings but then when I read your questions it made me consider that perhaps her life was as equally constrained in Europe as it was in NY. 3mo
CarolynM Oh wow, those final few chapters were really something! I would have been very happy for it to have ended at chapter 32 with that final image of May‘s torn and dirty wedding dress. Up to the point of May‘s announcement (if you can call it that 🙄) I had started to feel sympathy for Archer, but what sort of moral code is it that makes it ok to impregnate the wife you barely tolerate while glorifying in your fine feelings for another woman? 3mo
CarolynM My previous comment is kind of an answer to your questions 1 & 2. I can‘t imagine May as a seductress, so Archer‘s own actions gave May the opportunity to use the situation to her advantage. In that sense he prevented his own affair and set up May‘s win. Insofar as it kept him in society‘s good graces it was a win for him. As to Ellen, I‘m not sure that an unalloyed win was possible. 3mo
CarolynM Re question 5, I think anyone who wasn‘t brought up immersed in that society by people already immersed in it would have been “unassimilable” in it. I might feel a little bit more sympathetic to Undine Spragg after reading this! 3mo
Graywacke @Currey yeah, on the amazing ending. It‘s hard to stick the landing on this kind of novel, but this one really left an impression on me. “unimaginative” May was strong and clever, a strategist who doesn‘t show her cards. And that Wharton miscommunication. 3mo
Graywacke @Ann_Reads was it Wharton or Newland who couldn‘t see into May and found Ellen easier to capture? Maybe it was both. I think Wharton had known a few real life Mays, though. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat great characterization of Newland refusing to see Ellen at the end. Maybe he wasn‘t a big fan of reality. Enjoy grandparenting. 3mo
Graywacke @Louise no worries. You can post as you catch up. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat that feminist question - I completely agree. But May - is preserving the status quo really feminist even if she was very clever in making it happen? I adore May. That‘s just her challenge. She did what worked but not what we would advise today. She had to sacrifice herself in there. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @Currey on Q6 - and Newland not a problem solver - you know, he does nothing. Everything he accomplishes he accomplishes by not doing anything. Just passively riding his money, culture and support (wife) 3mo
Graywacke @CarolynM It‘s a different book if we end at chapter 32! The torn wedding dress was a nice literary touch. Great point about Newland‘s moral code, his mental cheating. He wants what he has and what he doesn‘t have… 3mo
Graywacke @CarolynM “i might feel a little more sympathetic for Undine Spragg after reading this.” 😂 😂 3mo
Currey @Graywacke so true about Newland doing nothing 3mo
batsy I think it's a feminist work because of how it depicts women's lives for what they are. No sugar coating anything, here, and there's a variety of experiences (albeit from within an upper-class angle). I agree that on the surface May pulled off a masterpiece victory, but to me it was the most tragic aspect of all. How did she feel knowing she wasn't what Newland wanted most of all? On the flipside, Newland wanting something most of all doesn't 3mo
batsy count for much, does it? He was willing to forego it. Are we meant to see Newland as essentially good, though, because he did that knowing he and May were to become parents? 3mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I think May is feminist in that she took hold of her own destiny. She could have let things happen to her, but she took what control she could to make things happen the way she wanted. It‘s not the way most of us would want, but within the constraints of the life she was trained to she made her own life. 3mo
Ann_Reads @Graywacke I think it was mostly Newland. He seems to misjudge May's character, especially early on in their relationship therefore the reader is also influenced by Newland's assessments. As for Wharton, I'm sure you are correct that she knew multiple 'Mays' during her lifetime. Having said that, I do think it is easier to write about people who remind you of yourself, so for Wharton, that would probably be Ellen. 3mo
Graywacke @batsy it‘s interesting that we don‘t know what May wanted. She divinely strives to hold up the tradition/save face without showing the strain. In the epilogue all that becomes meaningless (but can we doubt May would have adjusted?). Newland is, I think, tamed. He‘s made to be good. He‘s soft and more tame-able than he is aware. But May knew and kept him on the high road. 👇👇 3mo
Graywacke 👆👆 On his own, Newland is such a contradiction that he balances at zero. Ultimately I think he‘s everything he thinks May is - all that unimaginative stuff is his mindset. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @batsy No question May takes control. She would meet Alexandra Bergson of O Pioneers! on equal footing. Thanks both for your thoughts on May‘s feminism. 3mo
Graywacke @Ann_Reads thanks. I like thinking there is a lot of Wharton‘s own self in Ellen. 3mo
batsy "Ultimately he's everything that he thinks May is"—yes! Sums him up accurately, I think. 3mo
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The Romance of the Rose | Guillaume (de Lorris), Jean (de Meun)
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Getting going with some 13th-century literature, and the philosophies of love. Chaucer translated this into (Middle) English. It also influenced Dante, Petrarch, Boccaccio, and everyone else in Europe‘s intellectual creative zeitgeist of this era. @Dilara

batsy Lovely photo! The book looks and sounds good. 3mo
Graywacke @batsy thanks. So far the book is terrific. 3mo
Dilara I like your book's cover ! Does it say where the illustration is from? It looks like it could be Nantes castle... 3mo
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Graywacke @Dilara there‘s an oddly specific but meaningless to me description on the back cover: “detail from a miniature in a late fifteenth-century French manuscript of The Romance of the Rose. MS Douce 195, fo. 105v. Bodleian Library, University of Oxford.” - so, i have no clue which castle it might be. 😐 3mo
Dilara @Graywacke Thank you for the description: it took me down a pleasant rabbit hole. All the miniatures from the Douce manuscript are viewable online https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/da582e4f-8ee0-4bbc-9315-895fd44430d2/s...
I still don't know which castle it is, and will probably never know for sure, but it doesn't matter, really :-)
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Graywacke @Dilara whoa! Ok, 1st I didn‘t realize “MS Douce” meant Douce Manuscript. ☺️ But also, thank you so much for that link! Gorgeous! 💙 3mo
Graywacke @Dilara the illustrations in that manuscript are just amazing (edited) 3mo
PaperbackPirate Cute reading helper! 😍💙🐕 3mo
Graywacke @PaperbackPirate 🙂she‘s a good helper. (Well, when she‘s not barking at strangers.) 3mo
PaperbackPirate Lol mine too! 😅 3mo
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The Glimpses of the Moon | Edith Wharton
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Planning ahead - our next #whartonbuddyread

Apr 15 - chapter 1-8
Apr 22 - chapter 9-15
Apr 29 - chapter 16-23
May 6 - chapter 24-30 (the end)

Editing to add that anyone is welcome to join. 🙂

IndoorDame Please tag me! 3mo
Graywacke @Hanna-B @rubyslippersreads @Tamra @dabbe @Daisey @Cathythoughts as I mentioned above, let me know if you plan to join or want to be tagged 3mo
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Graywacke @IndoorDame i will! 👍 3mo
Tamra I‘m going to sit this out. Thank you! 3mo
Lcsmcat I‘m in. 😀 3mo
dabbe I'll give it a go! 😊 3mo
Graywacke @Tamra no worries. I figured it‘s worth checking with you. @Lcsmcat I was hoping 🙂 @dabbe great to hear! 👍 3mo
Currey @Graywacke Okay, one more…count me in 3mo
batsy Yes! I'm game 🙂 3mo
Graywacke @Currey phew! 🙂 I‘m really glad you‘re joining @batsy so glad you‘re joining too! 3mo
Louise Yes, count us in! 3mo
CarolynM I‘m in 🙂 3mo
Daisey Yes, I‘m in for this one as it‘s on the #1001books list. 3mo
Graywacke @Louise @CarolynM @Daisey - oh good! thanks all 3mo
TheBookHippie Yay!!! I‘m in! 3mo
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The Age of Innocence | Edith Wharton
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May Archer and her bow. Newland and his pathetic liaison attempts. And a window into Ellen (and Boston, pictured) Does May really know everything? We‘re in the middle chapters, maybe our novel has slowed down quite a bit. What‘s capturing your attention? Thoughts?

Ann_Reads At first I thought maybe May just suspected something was off, with a change in Newland's demeanor. On the other hand, it feels like May is egging him on when she brings Ellen into their conversations under the guise of being concerned about her cousin. I cannot imagine much could go on in that level of society without their being gossip about Newland's behavior. Even if May didn't initially figure it out, her family probably would have. 3mo
Currey @Ann_Reads I agree, in a society that is so primed to notice the least little faux pas, I think that May and family suspect something although perhaps not the specifics of Newland‘s motivations. 3mo
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Lcsmcat @Currey @Ann_Reads I think May is more observant than she gets credit for. I think she knows and brings up Ellen to needle Archer. Because she was reared to accept that behavior, even though the men in that society think their women are unaware of it. 3mo
Graywacke @Ann_Reads @Currey @Lcsmcat - May is so comfortable in that society, maybe she does know everything. I thought the honeymoon chapter came across as a character attack on May. But I have to keep in mind it‘s more Newland‘s character attack of May than Wharton‘s. Newland, first, really doesn‘t get May, and second, is rationalizing his interest in Ellen. So he‘s not a great point of view. 3mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Exactly! What a way to describe your wife, on your honeymoon. 🤦🏻‍♀️ 3mo
Graywacke Still, I‘m interested in this play on May as virginal Diana. Maybe Newland is dealing with issues Wharton doesn‘t like to address directly. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat yeah, not a good start to a marriage. 3mo
Graywacke By the way, Ellen has my a favorite line: “Do you suppose Christopher Columbus would have taken all that trouble just to go to the opera with the Selfridge Merrys?” 3mo
Graywacke I loved May‘s archery: May Welland was just coming out of the tent. In her white dress, with a pale green ribbon about the waist and a wreath of ivy on her hat, she had the same Diana-like aloofness as when she entered the Beaufort ballroom on the night of her engagement. In the interval not a thought seemed to have passed behind her eyes or a feeling in her heart; … 3mo
Graywacke She had her bow and arrow in her hand, and placing herself on the chalk mark traced on the turf she lifted the bow to her shoulder and took aim. The attitude was so full of a classic grace that a murmur of appreciation followed her appearance, … All (her rivals) were young and pretty, and bathed in summer bloom; but not one had the nymphlike ease of his wife when, with tense muscles and happy frown, she bent her soul upon some feet of strength. 3mo
Graywacke And mom, Mrs. Archer: “…she was able…to trace each new crack in its surface and all the strange weeds pushing up between the ordered rows of social vegetables. … For New York, to Mrs. Archer‘s mind, never changed without changing for the worse…“ 3mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Ellen‘s line is as good as that first quote about opera! 3mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I don‘t think about archery as being considered feminine back then, but I guess it was. And the Diana comparison was spot on! 3mo
Louise Hello, All, I‘m behind with reading after a busy week but hope to catch up soon! Enjoying your comments and looking forward to reaching some of these delicious quotes! 3mo
batsy @Graywacke I thought that archery description of May was sublime. I could picture it in my head. Probably because there's also one of those Penguin covers with a painting that's lodged in my mind https://indextrious.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-age-of-innocence.html?m=1 3mo
batsy "He saw in a flash that if the family had ceased to consult him it was because some deep tribal instinct warned them that he was no longer on their side..." I thought this was a great bit of insight into Newland; he's unknowable even to himself. A hint of being an unreliable narrator. Mainly because he knows he's outside of the values of the society he's in but I maintain that he's too afraid to give it up totally (hence his admiration for Ellen). 3mo
IMASLOWREADER sorry guys i am so behind work is kicking my butt for the last three weeks with new system upgrades and training the staff 😭 hoping to catch up soon 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat i was surprised to find so many references. Apparently archery was a thing for 19th-century upper class ladies. 3mo
Graywacke @Louise @IMASLOWREADER no worries. Take care. Good luck with all the real life stuff. 3mo
Graywacke @batsy sublime is lovely way to describe it. That cover is perfect. 3mo
Graywacke @batsy I remember that line on Newland but hadn‘t thought about it that way. But yeah, he‘s tricky because he doesn‘t know himself and doesn‘t act rationally or observe objectively. It‘s all warped in his mixed be a good part of society/want want internal conflict. He‘s that kind of accidentally unreliable observer. 3mo
CarolynM I‘ve been super busy and haven‘t read this week‘s portion. Will come back when I have read it. 3mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke @batsy The more I think about it the more I think the Diana reference indicates that May is stronger than her husband gives her credit for. Physically and mentally. Those bows take a lot of strength. And Diana was the huntress. Not exactly the blank slate Newland envisioned. 3mo
Graywacke @CarolynM no worries. Wish you well with the busy stuff. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat I agree and, it‘s such a beautiful way to make that point. 3mo
CarolynM Finally read these chapters! I enjoyed this part more than the last, I found the sparkles in the writing again, maybe I was just out of sorts when reading our 2nd portion. I thought the likening of May to “virginal Diana” and the later reference to her “virginal features” may well be a hint at things that couldn‘t be decently addressed at the time. Also the reference to “when” they had children and the notable absence of such after 2 years.👇 3mo
CarolynM 👆I also think May and her family are very aware of an unsuitable connection between Elena and Archer. It‘s interesting that Archer is so in tune with many of the social values (the ban on socialising in Europe made me laugh - they must have seemed so rude to the Europeans) including around financial dealings, yet chafes at the “moral” values around marriage (or is it just sex) @batsy I loved the Columbus quote @Graywacke 3mo
batsy @CarolynM Yes, he was bothered by the hypocrisy in those values only when they started to affect him. I feel like Wharton is giving a wry look to the reader the whole time. 3mo
Graywacke @batsy @CarolynM selective chafing. 🙄 @batsy - wry is such a good word for this. @CarolynM - I‘m really happy you enjoyed this section. Great post. 3mo
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Native Son | Richard Wright
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I‘m glad kitty is relaxed because this book is insane and has my little brain all worked up. After stumbling through a dry introduction (by Wright), I started yesterday.

dabbe Da sweetest baby! ❣️🐾❣️ 3mo
LitStephanie So cute! I have never read that. Hope you enjoy it. 3mo
StillLookingForCarmenSanDiego I've been listening to this and have had so much anxiety over the choices he's making. I still can't get over the main thing he did, was not expecting that in any way. 3mo
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Graywacke @StillLookingForCarmenSanDiego I knew and yet i was still stunned. It just came out of nowhere! 3mo
Leftcoastzen 😻 3mo
Bookwomble There's a grim inevitability about the unfolding of events. I can remember reading this and thinking "No, no, no, don't do that!" An amazing book, and Wright really hooked me in, but I'm not sure I could reread it as it was emotionally exhausting. Enjoy! ? 3mo
Bookwomble Also, 🐈‍⬛😻 3mo
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By the Sea | Abdulrazak Gurnah
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My 3rd novel by Gurnah, all since he won the Nobel Prize. I‘ve enjoyed them all. He‘s a wonderful storyteller, weaving gentle kindnesses into serious story tensions. This 2001 novel is a beautiful book about two refugees from British Zanzibar and later independent Zanzibar/Tanzania, who meet up in England.

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Graywacke
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My new audiobook. This, released Feb 14, is making a few headlines, including NPR. I live in Houston and I‘ve become a fan of Houston Astros. I might still be after I finish this. (I‘m watching their first game of spring training as I post this.)

BarbaraBB Great illustration 🤍 3mo
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