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Winter: A Novel | Ali Smith
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Ali Smith has left me here thinking. If I could put what it is I‘m thinking into words, I would. Art, nature, politics, plastics, messaging, googling, Dickens maybe, and Psyche, which happens to vaguely tie in to the Shakespeare I‘m reading through Eros/Cupid, but also Shakespeare too. And, of course, relationships. She always seems to leave me just maybe following by grasping a thin fragile thread.

Song of the Lark | Willa Cather
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Song of the Lark, Part 1 Friends of Childhood

Pictured is Swedish-born American sonata Olive Fremstad, the inspiration for Thea Kronborg. Part I has Thea growing up in a railroad town in the sand hills of the northeastern Colorado Prairie. Too much to mention - prose, descriptions of nature and people, American mythology, the unspoken. What were your thoughts? Did it work? What did, what didn‘t?#catherbuddyread

Graywacke I loved this, thought it could be a standalone novella. Have a bunch of unstructured thoughts on this, but trying to reign them in... 3d
Lcsmcat There‘s so much to unpack here. It‘s a different landscape from O Pioneers! but she depicts it with equal clarity. I loved the descriptions of the sand hills. 3d
Tanisha_A I am loving the description of Mrs. Kohler's garden so much. The effort she puts in, obsession about it coming out in the narrative so strongly! 3d
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Graywacke @Lcsmcat yes, there is a lot to unpack. Where to begin? And, yes, totally different. I'm having trouble placing myself in this little town and this landscape. Whereas the town in Nebraska felt very familiar. Intrigued that this is maybe all just background. 3d
Graywacke @Tanisha_A Those trees are like another character in the novel. I'm trying to figure out what she is saying with this garden. Any thoughts? 3d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Having lived out west helped. It‘s not Cather‘s usual landscape. 3d
Caterina I'm loving this book! I grew up a pastor's kid in a pretty small Southern town, and Cather's descriptions of the life and pressures of a minister's family feel very accurate. Oh and that small town rivalry between different churches!! 😂 I love the characters too... I love the descriptions of Mrs. Kronborg, and I'm completely heartbroken about Ray Kennedy. At first I thought he was creepy because of the age gap, but he grew on me! 3d
Caterina @Tanisha_A @Graywacke I love Mrs. Kohler's garden and trees! I feel like she and her husband have a lot of love to give, and now that their kids are off in the world, that love and care is lavished on the trees and Wunsch. 3d
Graywacke @Caterina Ray is a curiosity to me. Was that considered ok at that time. He doesn't come across as anything other than a really good person - who happens to be courting a teenager. But, yeah, can't really not like him. 3d
Graywacke @Caterina also, that's a special perspective you have this. That rivalry between the churches was very entertaining. 3d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat I simply don't know that area. I've driven through it, made memorable geological stops for field trips in far west Kansas (not Colorado, but similar), but never saw the sand hills. It's my 3rd book from Cather, and each landscape has been unique. (She captures New Mexico magically) 3d
Graywacke @Caterina now thinking of the garden as Mrs. Kohler‘s children. 🙂 3d
CarolynM I'm a bit behind, I've only made it halfway through Part I do far, but most of what has been said reflects my thoughts. I haven't yet seen Ray's good points, he just looks creepy to me. I love the way all those differences between the various groups of immigrants are described, it's good to remember these issues have always been there (in Australia as well as in the US) but they don't have to be as nasty as they are now. @Caterina (edited) 3d
Lcsmcat Ray never felt creepy to me because he was waiting for her to grow up. Maybe because my husband‘s grandfather was 10 years older than his grandmother and “picked her out” when she was in elementary school. 🤷🏻‍♀️ But Ray just seemed like one of those decent guys who never quite catches a break. 3d
Lcsmcat Side note, I was fascinated by the reversal of train status - how the freight trains had to wait for the passenger trains to go by. Now it‘s the opposite, as anyone who rides Amtrak can tell you. (edited) 3d
Graywacke @CarolynM on immigration: Cather seems very sensitive to origins, particularly since so many people are immigrants or first generation Americans. She is respectful. The country wasn‘t. This was published in 1915, the US effectively closed its borders ~1924. First anti-European immigration act was passed in 1917 (Anti-Chinese was much earlier). So tensions were high. 3d
Graywacke @CarolynM @Lcsmcat I like Ray, but if any 30-yr-old man tried to respectfully court my 14-yr-old daughter, I‘d call the police. So, it‘s weird to me. Also, I thought the text implied she was really too young for that kind of attention, that‘s she still forming her mind in very fundamental ways. No?? (edited) 3d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat everything about the trains was interesting to me and pretty much all new. Had no idea how they coordinated anything then with any effectiveness. And never thought about small train-stop towns in the Colorado plains (ok, I never thought about anything in Colorado east of Denver...) 3d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke @CarolynM True, today it would be perceived differently. But we wouldn‘t expect our 15 year olds to quit school and go to work to help support the family either. One of the things that has changed a lot in the past 100 years is our perception of childhood. And girls in particular had to grow up fast. 3d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke @CarolynM On the immigrants: I think that capturing the “flavor” of life in the different immigrant communities is one of Cather‘s amazing talents. They‘re fully-formed characters, not caricatures, but still have distinctive character traits. She finds the laudable in each culture. 3d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @CarolynM I do believe in trying to read from the perspective of the author‘s era, and not our era. (Key word - trying. 🙂) So, yeah, I‘m trying to be more passive and learn from Cather (instead of judge). So, I give Ray credit, but also wonder what happens if...well, this is a spoiler for CarolynM, but if part I doesn‘t end as it does. 3d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I think he‘d be disappointed again. Thea has no interest in marrying anyone and settling down to her mother‘s life. 3d
batsy So much to cover! I found Cather's descriptions of the landscape as evocative as ever. The Ray thing makes my skin crawl, nice guy or not. Glad to see the end of him, to be very honest. Thea is fascinating but I also love the depiction of Mrs. Kronborg. There was something about how when she learned that Thea had talent, she knew it meant discipline & practice, not decking her daughter out in ribbons to perform for every audience. Loved that! 3d
batsy @Graywacke @Lcsmcat Great points. So far I really appreciate her sensitive and respectful portrayal of immigrants. I was worried about general stereotyping, but she always pulls inward to capture nuances and to describe them as individuals. 3d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat well, yeah, probably so. 3d
Graywacke @batsy so much to cover, yes! Good points about Mrs. Kronborg. She‘s get a tough intro by Dr. Archie who thinks giving birth is no big deal. 🙂🙄😳 She is subtly very sharp. 3d
Graywacke @batsy @Lcsmcat @CarolynM - on immigrants - individually she is really respectful of everyone. She‘s kind of master at character. 3d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke She does have a very good ear for character! 3d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke @batsy Mrs K is such a great no nonsense woman! 3d
batsy @Graywacke Yes, Dr Archie is so dismissive of the mother at the start! Cather peels back the layers to show the other side. She's a master of character indeed. 3d
CarolynM @Lcsmcat My grandmother began "teaching" in her country school at the age of 13 (so that would have been 1919) and the school leaving age for my parents' generation was 14. You are so right about the changes in attitude to childhood. While I'm very glad that I, and my children, didn't have the pressures to be in the workforce at that age, we may have gone to far in reducing our expectations of teenagers. 3d
CarolynM @Graywacke On immigration - I take your point. She is dealing with day to day interactions, not the political environment. 3d
Graywacke @CarolynM hmm. Is she not being political? I‘m not sure that‘s true. Something to think about 3d
Tanisha_A @Graywacke My thoughts are on the same lines as @Caterina. She is full of love and she showers it on her garden. Also, that keeps her busy in her daily life, with nothing else to do (as she doesn't really go out, not many friends etc.). 3d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke @CarolynM I think she‘s being the best kind of political - leading by example - and saying all of us deserve the respect of being treated like human beings. Subversively political? 3d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat elegantly put. 🙂 3d
Graywacke @catebutler @crazeedi @Lcsmcat @Tanisha_A @Tamra @CarolynM @batsy @Caterina Just a quiet little reminder: Part 2 this week, for Sunday. A bit shorter than last week. 1d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I‘ve finished reading this week‘s bit, but may not chime in until Monday, after the wedding. 1d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat enjoy your weekend! 1d
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A Midsummer-night's Dream | William Shakespeare
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But I might see young Cupid‘s fiery shaft
Quenched in the chaste beams of the wat‘ry moon,
And the imperial vot‘ress passèd on,
In maiden meditation, fancy-free.

— Oberon to Puck. I like the contrast, the fire and water, especially in play on plans gone wrong.

Fancy-free : free from the power of love


merelybookish Yes that is a lovely image, of the fire quenched in the watery moon! And I have always loved the term fancy-free. There was so much beautiful imagery in this act! 3d
Graywacke @merelybookish I like the term. (Isn‘t there a Fancy Nancy book that makes terrific use of it? 🙂) But the way it‘s used here is, well, magnificent. (edited) 3d
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Winter: A Novel | Ali Smith
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{over the phone}
Her father is saying he has never forgotten how much it mattered to her and that he‘s phoned her because he thought she‘d like to know what he‘s just read, today, in today‘s paper —
she can hear him shaking the paper about down the phone to get to the right page —


This random inconveniently-timed parental phone call just made me smile.

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“...Well, comrade, because you bored us to death this morning, is there any reason why you shouldn‘t be hanged tonight?”

My favorite line of Book II, at the Court of Miracles. Illustration by Gustave Doré.

Lcsmcat 😆 I love Hugo‘s humor! 4d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat apparently he wasn‘t a fan of morality plays (or “mystery” plays). 4d
Graywacke (Forgot the hashtag: #hugonuts ) 4d
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Tanisha_A 😂 4d
Tanisha_A I can come up with a list of people if that's the way we want to hang people. 4d
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Notre Dame de Paris | Victor Hugo
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#hugonuts My title page with the odd double-but-separate and not-equal translators.

Graywacke (Cute side note: It has a big stamp of “DANNY CHAIKIN”, because I was Danny as a kid. Anyway, I had books stamped? I have no memory of this. I wasn‘t even reading then unless I was forced. Did not read for fun as a kid. At least I know this copy was actually mine...it might be the longest rider on my TBR shelves!!) 4d
Lcsmcat Now I have to try to find out! 4d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat curious... 🙂 4d
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Professor Google pays off. La Farge translated the Afterword by Maurois. Cobb translated the novel. 4d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat ok, you‘re awesome. Thanks! Also, another little part of the world makes sense now. 4d
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Notre Dame de Paris | Victor Hugo
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#hugonuts This Signet Classic was around the house when I was growing up. Probably a 1980‘s printing (says 9th printing of a 1964 edition). Title page is curious. Says “A New Translation by Walter J. Cobb”, then “Translated from the French by Phyllis La Farge”. So, then, what the heck was left for Cobb to translate, the Argot Latin?

Lcsmcat Very curious. Maybe the one updated the other‘s translation to@more modern English? 4d
Graywacke @Lcsmcat maybe. Maybe La Farge was too female and they needed a male name for the sexist buying public. Cobb‘s name is in BIG print abd La Farge is in a smaller font at the bottom of the page, like a footnote. Maybe I should just post it.... 4d
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Song of the Lark | Willa Cather
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“The summer moon hung full in the sky. For the time being, it was the great fact in the world.”

Getting going, discovering things I never knew, like sandsage prairie (Cather calls them sand hills). And all the other things she does. #catherbuddyread

Lcsmcat Great photo! 1w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat (power of Safari ☺️) 1w
batsy Lovely photo to pair with the quote. Her descriptions of nature make me swoon 🥰 1w
Graywacke @batsy Yes, They‘re wonderful. And it‘s a region I know nothing about. 1w
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Song of the Lark | Willa Cather
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#catherbuddyread reminder.

(Also inviting anyone who wants to join. We‘re on book two.)

Graywacke A note for slow readers like me - part one is 124 pages in my ebook. It‘s the longest of these sections. (And probably 3x as long as any sections in O Pioneers.) 1w
Lcsmcat 👍🏻 It‘s a reread for me, so that‘s usually faster. 1w
Caterina I read O Pioneers! last year on #SerialReader and have been meaning to continue the trilogy. This is great timing! Count me in. :) 1w
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Graywacke @Caterina welcome. You‘re in! 👍 1w
Crazeedi I have to find the book and I'll be with you! Hopefully the 19th!! 1w
Graywacke @Crazeedi good luck. There‘s always the ebook options (if you use them). 1w
CarolynM Thanks. Looking forward to getting started.🙂 1w
Crazeedi @Graywacke that's where I'm planning to get!! 1w
Graywacke @CarolynM Me too! I might start tonight. @Crazeedi 👍 1w
catebutler My copy is showing up today, looking forward to reading this! 6d
Graywacke @catebutler enjoy, take your time. 6d
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A Midsummer-night's Dream | William Shakespeare
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But earthlier is the rose distilled,
Than that which, withering on the virgin thorn,
Grows, lives, and dies in a single blessedness.


merelybookish Beautiful image! I find that quotation interesting. He's saying marriage is better than becoming a nun, yes? But what is a rose distilled? Perfume? (And thanks for playing! 😉) 1w
Graywacke @merelybookish technically yes, perfume. But then the meaning still isn‘t clear. I like it because partially because it seems open to multiple meanings and also because I like how it sounds. 1w
readordierachel Lovely 💕 1w
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batsy I love the way it sounds, too. Though I think I disagree with the sentiment 😌 1w
Graywacke @readordierachel the image? Love art nouveau. 1w
Graywacke @batsy 🤣 Theseus is not a good guide to life! 1w
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Just starting this for the #hugonuts. Lush visual prose and an entertaining variety of insults (which are probably a lot more entertaining in French)

Lcsmcat The university students are amusing, aren‘t they? 2w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat yes. I‘m all lost in this lost room and these lost statues, and suddenly bathroom jokes about a rector. 2w
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Alas, I‘ve started volume 2. Should take me two months to crawl through it.

Winter: A Novel | Ali Smith
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Not that they should be compared, but this is so far a heck of a lot more fun than Plutarch. I just started today.

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Started this on audio today. At 37 hours, should keep me busy a while. The first 15 minutes were really elegant.

Theaelizabet I‘m both listening and reading Jill Lepore‘s These Truths and am currently at The Civil War section. Was just thinking that the Frederick Douglas bio might be my next nonfiction read. 3w
Graywacke @Theaelizabet I‘ve thought of that Jill Lepore book a lot. How are you liking it overall? 3w
Graywacke @Theaelizabet Lisa Peet on LT convinced me to dive into the Frederick Douglass - because she liked it and because she noted into spends a lot of time looking into the world of abolitionism. 3w
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Theaelizabet @Graywacke Lepore‘s book is terrific, but it offers hundreds of jumping off points in the historical timeline where you really want to know more. Re: Abolition, don‘t miss Henry Gate‘s documentary about reconstruction on PBS. 3w
Graywacke @Theaelizabet Ok. I might follow up this with that. (Gates, PBS...thanks! 👍) 3w
RaimeyGallant Omg, that's longer than any audiobook I've ever attempted. 1w
Graywacke @RaimeyGallant 🙂I‘ve done longer before. Nonfiction tomes... good for commutes and saving audible credits. This is one is particularly well written, so I‘m loving listening. 1w
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Washington Black | Esi Edugyan
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The slave boy and tortured enlightened man of the Age of Reason give this almost a steampunk touch. And it has some weight to it and aspects work that I wouldn‘t have thought would. But I felt like it got plot-tangled, making for some silliness. Too awkward for me overall.

Liz_M This was an audiobook for you ? I wonder if it works better in print... 3w
Graywacke @Liz_M yes. The reader was mostly good. A bit dramatic. One oddity was that he read all the older men like they read Thomas Jefferson in old museums ... that maybe didn‘t help. 3w
Liz_M Ha! 3w
Susanita I thought it started strong then fell apart as they moved away from the Barbados story. Interesting themes, though, and I‘d read more from this author. 3w
Graywacke @Susanita I might read another her books, if it had some nice reviews. Parts worked, parts didn‘t-maybe just too convoluted a plot. Things that really didn‘t work for me: Erasmus, Tich‘s dad, Tana‘s dad, the love story, the magical expertise in aquariums. But, oddly, I did like how it ended. 3w
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Giovanni's Room | James Baldwin
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I struggled with the first two of Baldwin‘s books I tried, but I found this beautiful from the opening and throughout. The prose is cleaner, more open and fluid, has more space somehow, but still it has those mannerisms distinct to Baldwin. I absolutely loved this.

Liz_M I am so happy that you loved this one! 3w
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O Pioneers! | Willa Cather
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I‘m enjoying exploring Cather this year and also our #catherbuddyread . O Pioneers looks at the early immigrants who settled the Nebraska prairie and how that world molds them. With Cather the descriptions of the people and place and the atmosphere she captures leaves a lingering impression, here, especially, of the heroine, Alexandra Bergson.

catebutler Even though it was a short novel, it had a punch. The descriptions were beautiful, with a touch of melancholy. She really is a fabulous writer. I‘m so happy we‘ll be reading another later this month! 3w
Graywacke @catebutler Yes, I love how you put that. There is something sad throughout even when the the story isn‘t sad. (edited) 3w
Lcsmcat I‘m eager to reread Lark in close succession. I didn‘t realize the connection before. 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat of course, it will be my first time, but I‘m curious how interconnected these really are. I had no idea these were a trilogy until we started talking about it here. 3w
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Song of the Lark | Willa Cather
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Hey #catherbuddyread -ers. I‘m thinking about the scheduling for the Song of the Lark - the next book in the Prairie Trilogy. I‘ll put my idea of the moment in the comments (because it might change). Let me know of you‘re interested and if this works.

Graywacke Initial schedule idea: May 19: Part 1
May 26: Part 2
June 2: Parts 3-5
June 9: Part 6 and Epilogue
(edited) 3w
Graywacke Note - this is 3x as long as O Pioneers. So a bit more of a weekly commitment. 3w
Lcsmcat Sounds good to me. 3w
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catebutler Count me in please! 👍🏼 3w
CarolynM I'm in 3w
Tamra I‘m in! 3w
Crazeedi @Graywacke I'm on vacation during the first 2 weeks, but I'll join in as I can!! 3w
Graywacke @Crazeedi 👍 enjoy your vacation. 3w
batsy I would love to join, if I may? 🙂 I might not be able to get the book in time but will catch up. 3w
Graywacke @batsy You‘re on the list. 👍 3w
Tanisha_A Sounds good! I may turn out to be erratic in discussions, but I will try my best. 🙂 3w
Graywacke @Tanisha_A I‘m happy you‘re joining. 👍 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @catebutler @CarolynM @Tamra @Crazeedi @batsy - I think we‘re settled. I‘ll use the schedule above. I‘ll post a reminder Sunday next week and then post discussion threads each of the four Sundays after. 2w
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Sounds good! 👍🏻 2w
Crazeedi @Graywacke good deal!!👍❤ 2w
catebutler Sounds awesome! 👍🏼 2w
Graywacke @Tanisha_A So sorry! Meant to tag you on that post too. 2w
batsy Great 👍🏽 2w
CarolynM Looking forward to it 🙂 2w
TheEnd @Graywacke I'll join in too, if that's okay. I missed the O Pioneers buddy read, but all the books within the trilogy are rereads for me. 2w
Graywacke @IndigoBlue adding you. Glad you‘re joining. 2w
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No clue what I‘m doing awake at 1:30 am, even the cats asleep, but I finished the first volume of Plutarch‘s Lives. 49 hours of reading over two months and 4 days. I can‘t say I recommend it, but it does end at the best part - Crassus‘s loss of his life and entire army to the Parthian horsemen in the Battle of Carrhae in 53 bce.

pdever With all due respect (and advance apology) to classicists ... that sounds like a real project! 3w
Graywacke @pdever a strange one too. 🙂 3w
rretzler 😻 3w
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Henry IV, Part 2 | William Shakespeare
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It‘s like the cobbled Shakespeare. Second-rate Falstaff humor makes takes up most of the stage time. Here and there plot is stuck in, and the wordsmith has whole sections of gems. But they sit lost within what feels like an unpolished script.


Cathythoughts Uh -oh Shakespeare is in trouble with the Littens 😳🤣 @batsy (edited) 3w
GingerAntics I‘m believing that Shakes only collaborated on this one and didn‘t write all of Henry IV himself. I can see where the theory comes from. 3w
batsy @Cathythoughts He's got some explaining to do 😂😂 3w
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Lcsmcat @GingerAntics I can believe it on this one. It seems so cobbled together. 3w
GingerAntics @Lcsmcat right? Part 1 and the last two acts of Part 2 seem like they could have been written by the same person, but it does feel like two different authors. 3w
Graywacke @Cathythoughts @batsy I have this image of the bard waking up to a beautiful morning in purgatory, basking in the warmth of his fame, then opening the door to these sourly litten faces. A little hurt, he‘ll say something like, “What? You try writing about this stuff without boring everyone?” ... “Good grief, move on. Go read A Midsummers Dream or Hamlet or something. Leave me alone.” He‘d go back to bed. (edited) 3w
Graywacke @GingerAntics @Lcsmcat Putting my two cents (edited because I had written “sense”) on the multiple author bit in the GingerAntics group thread (edited) 3w
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Love that image! I can imagine him adding “Hey, I was trying to make a living. Cut me some slack!” 3w
TheBookHippie I feel the same!!!!! I‘m glad I read it however I‘m not revisiting this one !!! It was work phew 🤣🤣 3w
Graywacke @TheBookHippie yeah, tough one to get through. 😳🥺 3w
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O Pioneers! | Willa Cather
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O Pioneers: The End. (Part IV chapters V-VIII and Part V Alexandra, chapters I-III)

The book begins in town, but quickly makes its way to a vast and overwhelming landscape, and here we end, after some serious drama, talking about the land.

Some discussion questions coming in the comments.


Graywacke Some questions: 1. How did you like it? For those who were re-reading, any thoughts on the second time around? 2. What did you think about Frank, and about how Alexandra treated him? 3. Ivar tells us, “it has fallen! Sin and death for the young ones! God have mercy upon us!” Whose to blame? Emil? Marie? Frank? Chance? Alexandra? (edited) 3w
Graywacke Feel free to add any questions 3w
Graywacke Meant to add this question: The Song of the Lark is the next book in Cather's Prairie Trilogy. Let me know of there is any interest in continuing. We could read it in May, or, as Lcsmcat has The Hunchback of Notre Dame starting, we could wait till after that. 3w
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Lcsmcat I spent more time enjoying the prose on this reread, rather than thinking about the plot. 3w
Lcsmcat Obviously, from my indiscret comment last week I blame Emil mostly, and Frank tangentially. 3w
Lcsmcat As for Song of the Lark, I can go either way. I usually read more than one book at a time, and they‘re different enough that I won‘t mix them up. 🤣 So whatever the group wants. 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat on her prose: I tried to think about and take in the prose as I read. It‘s, for me, what I‘ll most take away from this. 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat on blame: hope we get more comments. For Emil - he was at that age where passion happens and it‘s so intense. Of course, Alexandra went through that too, and just let it ride, focused as she was on figuring out how to manage. I‘ll just nudge in there, circumstance (with some implications) 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat Song of the Lark: OK. It might work best that way, but not sure. Might mean I overcommit my May reading. 🙂 3w
Lcsmcat @Graywacke It‘s easier for me to focus on the writing in a first read now. When I read it the first time my 3 kids were quite young and I was catching snippets of time to read when I could. It wasn‘t conducive to deep reading. 😀 3w
CarolynM 1. Second time around was very much about the writing for me. Appreciating the descriptive passages and the structure of the story. 2. I didn't have much sympathy for Frank. He didn't seem to have any positive characteristics. 3. While I agree that it would have been better if Emil had left his feelings unspoken, I don't think that either he or Marie actually did anything wrong. Frank was jealous without cause over the other boy, he was going👇 3w
CarolynM To snap at some point and do violence to someone. His mental gymnastics about who was to blame were horrible but unfortunately still the way a lot of people think when they do something they know they shouldn't have done and even more unfortunately particularly in cases of domestic violence. Alexandra is his opposite personality-wise so was examining her own behaviour for how she might have contributed to the outcome. 3w
CarolynM I've not read Song of the Lark. I'm easy about timing, especially if it's broken up into little chunks like this one was.🙂 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat any reading with three small kids is impressive. 3w
Graywacke @CarolynM Glad to see the comments on her prose. She had a sense for it that was special. .... Frank, he was always a head case, right. I was surprised how messed up he was at the end when he spoke to Alexandra. 3w
Graywacke @CarolynM On Song if the Lark - I agree, it makes it a lot easier with the small chunks. And I think about it for a longer time. 🙂 3w
Lcsmcat @CarolynM @Graywacke Frank was something else. I know if I were in Alexandria‘s shoes I could not have been so forgiving! And I agree that he would have eventually done violence to someone, and blamed it on Maria. Most of the men were pretty narcissistic. Ivar and John the least so. But then we saw the least of them. 3w
Lcsmcat Even Ivar and Amédée were a bit narcissistic, although granted in less toxic ways. 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat Amédée too? Ivar was like prophet. 3w
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Amédée‘s self-absorption took the form of “whatever is making me happy right now is what everyone should do” so I‘m not saying he was evil. Just that he didn‘t see how much pain he was causing Emil. And yes, Ivar serves as a prophet, and he‘s Good with a capital G. So I suppose narcissistic is the wrong word for him. 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat ok, I can see that with Amédée. 3w
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @CarolynM Alexandra‘s perspective on Frank caught my attention and made me uncomfortable because it is actually a lot different from how someone in her position would view him today. 3w
CarolynM My view is that the social order dictated that a man was in charge of his home and family so any dealing with that home or member of the family affected him. If the dealing was perceived as wrong in any way it was seen as at least an insult and possibly a threat to him, not only by him but also by others. I think this is where Alexandra is coming from. Most of us don't see it like that today, but there are remnants of this kind of thinking👇 (edited) 3w
CarolynM I think we see those remnants in relation to people in positions of power when people make excuses for their behaviour. I'm having trouble putting my thoughts into words tonight. Please excuse me if I'm not making sense. 3w
Tamra @Graywacke I‘m late to the party! 1. I liked it the second time around, instead of loving it like I did the first. The writing of course is superb, so it‘s probably circumstantial for me - very busy. 2. Frank is the man he was when Marie married him, but she was young and people change and can grow apart. She was bored with her life. Seems like a relatively common issue, though what a scandal then!Alexandra understood Frank better than himself. 3w
Tamra 3. Legal culpability, obviously Frank. Moral blame is a complicated creature. We all like to think we can control our circumstances and behavior. So often we fail. Marie & Emil knew better - particularly Marie who was wiser and knew Frank‘s character. 3w
Graywacke @Tamra Interesting about the second time around, and your circumstance. I‘m a moody reader, so makes sense to me. Yes, it seems Frank didn‘t change. He just seemed more appealing to M when he was younger... 3w
Graywacke @Tamra - knowing better - as is life-and-death knowing better...as in don‘t piss off the angry guy whose ready to beat someone up knowing better. 😳 Good point. Maybe M lacked a little self-preservation. 3w
Graywacke @CarolynM I was wondering about the social order while reading too. I agree, that was the perspective then (and through most of recorded history). I‘m not quite sure how Cather felt. First I thought she did not like it with Carl, but then Alexandra‘s reaction to Frank implies maybe Cather did respect that sense. She, Alexandra, clearly didn‘t blame Frank. (I did! You don‘t just pull a gun and start shooting because you‘re upset...) 3w
CarolynM I don't think we can necessarily say Cather's viewpoint was the same as Alexandra's. Alexandra, after all, had led a relatively sheltered life in a conservative environment. Perhaps even in her time more sophisticated readers would have been critical of Alexandra's response to Frank. 3w
CarolynM @Tamra I think I know what you mean, and I agree that we can all take some responsibility for our own safety, but it is a very fraught area. Can moral responsibility for acts of violence ever be shared by the victim? 3w
Tamra @CarolynM that is an excellent question to ponder! I am not attempting to justify Frank‘s action at all or suggest M deserved it. I think we can put ourselves and others in perilous situations that if we were thinking more rationally in a heated moment may choose differently. Therein lies the danger of being all too human. 😑 3w
Tamra @Graywacke moody reader is definitely me too! 3w
CarolynM @Tamra Something we should all try to keep in mind🙂 3w
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Giovanni's Room | James Baldwin
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I had trouble with Baldwin‘s first two books (Go Tell It On the Mountain and Notes of a Native Son). But so far this book is really beautiful, with a much cleaner softer prose.

The quote I circled above should be taken in light of Baldwin and his main character‘s literal flights from New York to France and also, I imagine, in light of the homosexual awakening of both.

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O Pioneers! #catherbuddyread April 15-21

- Part III Winter Memories, chapters I-II
- Part IV The Mulberry Tree, chapters I-IV

Isolation and the impossible love of Emil and Marie.

Tamra Love plains pics! 1mo
Cathythoughts Stunning picture 1mo
Lcsmcat So much tragedy! And so much of it could have been avoided if Emil hadn‘t forced Marie to admit to her feelings. I felt like his selfishness in that regard put him on the same level as Frank. He didn‘t care how much pain he caused Marie as long as HIS need to be loved was met. Not that she would have been happy with Frank, but she would have been happier than she was after admitting it, and she might have been alive. 1mo
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Graywacke @Tamra @Cathythoughts I enjoyed looking for a good winter on plains picture. (Of course, for Litsy I need to square them off) 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat You might want to add a spoiler tag to that comment, since it happens after our section... but yeah, Emil can‘t lay off. He‘s over obsessed. And after the two dolt brothers were so offensive, Alexandra put all her hopes into Emil. In RL maybe that works out. But in literature that selfless single goal full commitment has an iffy track record. I feel bad for her. (edited) 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Oops! I thought we were reading all of Part IV. Can I blame it on Holy Week brain? 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat 🤣 Happy Easter to those who celebrate! (And Passover). 1mo
CarolynM I loved Part III - it really gave me a sense of what the winters must have been like. Not do much the weather, but what the weather meant for the people. I agree with @Lcsmcat about Emil's selfishness, but I think it was also a product of being Alexandra's brother. I wonder whether he really understood how different she was from most other women? 1mo
CarolynM Oh, and I love the picture too. It is perfect for this part of the book. 1mo
Crazeedi Agree with all the comments!!! I finished the book, it was so good! Cant believe I never read her! 1mo
Graywacke @CarolynM she takes us a lot of places with her prose. I felt the winter too. Emil is a bit of a mess... 1mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi This is my second from Cather. (Haven‘t finished yet). She is something. The New Yorker article @Lcsmcat linked to last week noted that in analyzing Cather (well, in a specific way) her prose gets overlooked. She was an elegant writer who could capture so much in a few words. (edited) 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke @Crazeedi @CarolynM I agree. She is so good at portraying place and character while staying out of the reader‘s way. Her plots are interesting, but even if they weren‘t I‘d read her for her use of language. 1mo
Tanisha_A Ugh! I feel so bad, haven't had much time to read. What with work to eat! :/ 1mo
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Adventure, pacing, landscape and character and a masterful setup. Took me 20 years in Texas to get to this classic.

Mollyanna An excellent tale of life and relationships on the frontier. I loved it! 1mo
Graywacke @Mollyanna 👍 yes, that! I think I‘ll miss reading it. 1mo
Leftcoastzen The book McMurtry was born to write! 1mo
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Mollyanna I‘ve debated reading the rest of the series but am worried it would ruin the magic of Lonesome Dove. 1mo
Graywacke @Mollyanna i have heard they aren‘t as good. I‘m hesitant to read them myself 1mo
Kaye I‘ve read all but one in the series. LD is by far the best. The first is really graphic, lots of Indians slaughtering and torturing people. The last one is good. Sad , but I‘d rate it maybe 3.5-4 ⭐️. I only have to read the second, when Gus and Call are maybe middle aged ? Before they are LD age. 1mo
Graywacke Thanks @kaye ! Appreciate the summary 1mo
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O Pioneers! | Willa Cather
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O Pioneers! - Part 2 Neighboring Fields

16 years on. I kept wondering where Cather was going with this, but it seems we can always trust her. This section all ties together, from grim reaper Emil at the graveyard to an emotional place at the close - even if we might not pick up on it all along the way.

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Graywacke The end of this section put me in a state and sent me to a lot of re-reading. Lots of stuff going on around the text, subtleties in the text. (edited) 1mo
Graywacke (Side note: a quote from Lonesome Dove - from Clara in Nebraska. “It discouraged her to look out the window at the empty plains and reflect that even if she had the eloquence to write, and the time, she had nothing to write about.” McMurtry winking at Cather?) 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke 😆 I love that quote! 1mo
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CarolynM Yes! Definitely a Cather reference. I love picking up little nuggets like that. Interesting, though, that Cather found plenty to write about. There are so many threads you could unpick in the section we've just read. Such a lot conveyed about the people and the society they lived in. 1mo
Lcsmcat So many sad things in this section. Emil and Alexandra both are so sad at the end. 1mo
Graywacke @CarolynM yes, lots of thread to woven in. How about the heat between Emil and Marie? Just picking cherries... 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat I didn‘t catch that sadness until the end!! It was like - look, success. Then it all came together at once near the end for me. So, yeah, that‘s how I closed part 2 - lots of sadness. 1mo
Graywacke Any thoughts on feminism? Carl‘s masculinity problem? 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I wish I could say Carl‘s attitude distressed me, but it‘s so much what I‘ve experienced all my life that I can‘t waste time being angry. It just makes me sad. He would risk the happiness of the woman he claims to love because of his misplaced pride. 😞 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat yeah, it is sad. Creating problems. 1mo
CarolynM I don't see Carl's problem as masculinity so much as misplaced independence. I think both sexes suffer from that. Frank, Lou and Oscar, now, they've got serious masculinity problems. @Lcsmcat 1mo
Graywacke @CarolynM Not macho male, but the masculinity in male role playing. Flip the sexes and it would be quite different. A female Carl going nowhere in the city would happily marry and settle down with a male successful farmer Alexandra. His pride is based on being the male provider - and not a comfortable partner to a female provider. He can‘t fathom the indignity... 1mo
CarolynM I don't think that's necessarily true. I know a lot of women who can't stand the thought of being provided for. If we're viewing it in the context of the times then we can't really call it a masculinity problem, it's much more of a social problem - how everyone else judges. 1mo
Graywacke @CarolynM Sorry, not trying to argue. A social problem is a good description and underlies my question. Carl and Alexandra are within their times and social conventions. Cather isn‘t. (She was always independent. She also left Nebraska for NY city - surely a place with different cultural norms.) Any thoughts on what she‘s doing with these social conventions here, from her perspective? From ours? 1mo
CarolynM Not an argument - a robust discussion🙂 I'm not as familiar with Cather's personal story as I probably should be, but I think she never married. An unmarried woman supporting herself was a lot more acceptable than a woman supporting her husband and less unusual (although I can think of a couple of examples - E Nesbit comes to mind - and it put the family outside polite society.) 1mo
Lcsmcat I think Carl‘s problem with being supported was about others‘ perceptions. He even says he‘s neither weak enough or strong enough to do it, indicating that a strong man wouldn‘t care about the conventions. Don‘t even get me started on Frank, Lou, and Oscar! @CarolynM @Graywacke 1mo
Graywacke @CarolynM @Lcsmcat Yes, she never married. (I don‘t know much about her life either, other than what Wikipedia tells me). Maybe Cather had had a real-life parallel story to Alexandra and Carl. ?? 1mo
Lcsmcat No one can know for sure, of course, but there is a general feeling that Cather was a lesbian. See https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/whats-in-cathers-letters And she said in an interview that is in the back of my volume that her characters were based on the “foreigners” she grew up with. Antonìa, in particular, was a young woman who was kind to Cather as a girl. 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat Wikipedia was dismissive, which means nothing. Seems she never wanted to be seen that way. 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I‘m sure she didn‘t want to be seen that way, and I don‘t know if there‘s any evidence of her acting on her feelings, but the article‘s quotes from her letters are intriguing. 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat i‘ll read it eventually. Very curious. Thanks for the link! 1mo
Tanisha_A Eh! I am still catching up with this part! Work got in the way 😶 1mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A sorry about a crazy work stuff. But I hope you enjoy catching up. 1mo
Graywacke Just a reminder, this week (April 15-21) is Part III Winter Memories, chapters I-II, and Part IV The Mulberry Tree, chapters I-IV (if you can stop there...) 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat very interesting New Yorker article (and shorter than I anticipated ☺️). 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I should have clarified that! 1mo
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Washington Black | Esi Edugyan
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Just getting started on this - 17th century Barbados. So far “tropey” - horrors of slavery, spirituality of African slaves, simply cruelty of spoiled lonely slave owner, and hints at the Age of Reason. Entertaining enough though. I‘ll give it some time to evolve.

MelissaSue81 I guess I‘m not super familiar with the tropes of the genre but I do think this book eventually goes in a different direction than you would expect. 1mo
Graywacke @MelissaSue81 thanks! That‘s good to know. I‘ll give it a decent chance. 1mo
cariashley This was just picked for my work book club, I‘m excited to read it. 1mo
Graywacke @cariashley I‘m listening. Been looking forward to it, too. 1mo
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Milkman | Anna Burns
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Still processing this curious and complicated look into the Troubles of Belfast in the late 1970‘s... at the regular people living through it...well, at our 18-yr-old protagonist in 19th-century literary denial and her elder self as a narrator who does not use any names of anything ever... and how incapacitated she is when stalked by a prominent renouncer, identified simply as the milkman. A play on language and other things.

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When I first read this I thought it meant Marie was happy...


Lcsmcat She would have to have a “happy nature” not to have become bitter living with Frank! 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat !! True that. 1mo
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O Pioneers! | Willa Cather
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O Pioneers! - Part 1 The Wild Land

“But the great fact was the land itself, which seemed to overwhelm the little beginnings of human society that struggled in its somber wastes.“

Cather‘s writing, the hard people who are careful how they express themselves leaving us a little in the dark, and the indifferent land, the great fact framing, threatening everything. And Alexandra. Welcome to empty plains of Nebraska.


Graywacke Among the things I‘m thinking about: 1. The effortless writing. Is it that? 2. The pioneers of the title - the ones who arrived in the newly empty land, that‘s one generation previous. We‘re on generation tow...no? 3. The great fact of the land 4. The hard people and their thick outer shells. Their formality 5. Alexandra and her methods. Keeping a lot to herself. 6. The mythology of these plains and settlers 7. ??? And so on 1mo
Lcsmcat In between church services, so this is quick and I‘ll have more to say later. But 1. I don‘t believe it WAS effortless, just that she makes it SEEM effortless. The seams don‘t show, to use a sewing metaphor. Which makes the prose glide for the reader. 1mo
Lcsmcat 2. We are on generation two, but in some ways they might be the real pioneers, if, like Alexandra, they‘re learning to farm differently than east coast farming ways. Back to choir - I‘ll check in later. 1mo
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Tanisha_A I believe by effortless meaning she had it thought out brilliantly and that shows. There is a neat sequence in which the narrative flows. 1mo
Lcsmcat @Tanisha_A Exactly! She was very talented! 1mo
Tanisha_A Pioneers, yes absolutely the ones who arrived at the newly empty land, but i'd like to believe this generation as pioneers too for retaining it/ keeping the word of the pioneer(s) (here A's & siblings' father) before. Considering the natural conditions, poverty that lays upon them, it's increasingly difficult to strive. 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @Tanisha_A (typing while in line for ice cream at a baseball game) wondering about my own feelings on the this aspect of her writing, but yes, it flows and seems to breeze by. I was thinking about her style and choices while reading, how she chose to present characters...wondering why she started with the kitten, for example, on what has been anything but a “cute” text - although there is a lot of innocence. 1mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I did not remember about the kitten from the first time I read it. Do you suppose it‘s there to illustrate 1. how hard life is on the prairie; and 2. the closeness of Alexandra and Carl? 1mo
Lcsmcat Going back to your original comments, 3 and 6, the land is a major character in the novel, along with the weather that goes with it. Cather‘s love of place really shines through. 1mo
CarolynM @Lcsmcat @Tanisha_A I'm sure a lot of effort went into her writing but it reads SO easily. As you said, it glides and flows. As a reader I feel as though I am being gently pulled along. The land is absolutely a character in the novel. Alexandra's relationship with it is central. I think the kitten is at least partly illustrating how young Alexandra, Carl and Emil are. 1mo
Lcsmcat @CarolynM Good point! 1mo
Graywacke @CarolynM @Lcsmcat yeah, good point. The kitty actually tells us a lot about these three characters. The connection of Carl and Alexandra, some of Carl‘s resourcefulness, Alexandra‘s calmness and how she solves problems...and a lot more. Hmm. 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @Tanisha_A - so, I‘m reading Lonesome Dove while reading this, and although I‘m not in Nebraska yet there, I‘m seeing these empty plains from just the other side. Few to no natives, and also no real settlers (or fences). The land is empty. And then I switch here and the Dad bought this empty land with nothing on it (that one character lives in a cave!) And he and his wife did all the initial figuring it out... 1mo
Graywacke Alexandra comes in, and begins to play real estate. She couldn‘t have done that 20 years earlier, probably not ten years earlier. It was a new opportunity. (Am I right there? Not actually sure) It just struck me, the world is changing and she is adapting quickly. That‘s why I mentioned the pioneer bit. 1mo
Graywacke Also - I really like Alexandra. I like how she learns, and thinks and is so careful how she acts, how she balances and manages personalities. She always has a purpose behind what she‘s doing. And when things come up, she processes it, thinks it through before she acts. Anyway, really like her and look forward to following along what she does (and how she might handle whatever goes wrong) 1mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @CarolynM @Tanisha_A - the land drew me, personally, more than anything else. It left me thinking of Kansas, where I was a geology grad student, and I just loved what she captured and how she did that. 1mo
Graywacke And (I‘m going one post too far now) going back to the kitten, I like how she set up the landscape by starting in town. When we get out of town, the unfriendly landscape overwhelms it and everything thing we know of this book at that point (as does fate, a bit, with the dad). (edited) 1mo
CarolynM @Graywacke I think the first couple of chapters are genius - immediately relatable for place and character - and then as you say overwhelms it all with the harsh empty land and the harsh reality of human frailty 1mo
Graywacke @CarolynM well put. !! 1mo
Tanisha_A @Graywacke I love that you mentioned the kitten section - love how she builds up Emil's character filled with love, innocence! 1mo
Tanisha_A @Graywacke @CarolynM @Lcsmcat That's a great point about using kitten to illustrate/ connect the 3 characters. I especially loved the part where the narrator mentions this while Emil is sitting by himself in despair - "He was a little country boy, and this village was to him a very strange and perplexing place, where people wore fine clothes and had hard hearts." Emil feels secure only when he is with A, siblings etc. 1mo
Tanisha_A @graywacke To your point about Alex playing real estate, yes. Also, what amazes me is how @CarolynM said the harsh reality of human frailty makes one take a grown up role so quickly. Alex herself is too young, but now she has to do all of this, make these big decisions if to survive! 1mo
Tanisha_A @Lcsmcat Love what you said, "Cather's love of place really shines through." 1mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A I love that quote - from Emil to hard hearts. And, yeah, they really do need to grow up quickly. Alexandra is trying. 1mo
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O Pioneers! | Willa Cather
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Getting started : #catherbuddyread

Crazeedi I have the book and I'm ready to read!!! 2mo
Graywacke The road led southwest, toward the streak of pale, watery light that glimmered in the leaden sky. ... The little town behind them had vanished as if it had never been, had fallen behind the swell of the prairie, and the stern frozen country received them into its bosom. ... 2mo
Graywacke But the great fact was the land itself, which seemed to overwhelm the little beginnings of human society that struggled in its somber wastes. ... he felt men were too weak to make any mark here, that the land wanted to be let alone, to preserve its own fierce strength, its peculiar, savage kind of beauty, its uninterrupted mournfulness. 2mo
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Graywacke Joe Bergen : “He was only forty-six, and had, of course, counted upon more time.” —- it happens to be my 46th birthday... 2mo
Tanisha_A Love the opening paragraph, the setting of the street/ town. And this thought of the Swede boy, oh "He was a little country boy, and this village was to him a very strange and perplexing place, where people wore fine clothes and had hard hearts." 2mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Happy Birthday! I‘m sure you‘ll have more years than poor Joe! 2mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A that fine clothes and hard hearts comment - draws up an image. 2mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat well, that‘s encouraging 🤣 I‘m free of farm debt too! Just worried about coming tuition 2mo
Graywacke Frithjof Saga?? 2mo
Tanisha_A Happy happy birthday! 🥳🎂🎉 2mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A ☺️ thanks! 2mo
Graywacke I‘ve already read this week‘s section. Not ready to stop 😕 It‘s only Monday 2mo
Crazeedi @Graywacke happy birthday!🎁🎉🎂 2mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi thanks!! 2mo
catebutler Starting this evening! Happy Birthday! 🥳 2mo
Graywacke @catebutler Have a great evening reading! And thanks! 🙂 2mo
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Henry IV, Part 2 | William Shakespeare
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A little different flavor, this part 2.


Lcsmcat There are some good speeches in this act! Like Bardolph‘s, near the end of the act. 2mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat agree. Bardolph has a some pithy things to say at the end. 2mo
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Saw a post on this and couldn‘t resist. A taste of my 1990‘s music - alternative rock and some of the New Orleans scene.


Cinfhen See, seeing your post makes me realize who I left off of my list!! Smashing Pumpkins & 10,000 Maniacs 🙏🏻 2mo
Graywacke @Cinfhen 🙂 My head is now spinning on all those I missed (REM, Blue‘s Travelers, Rage Against the Machine...). Also, I‘m wondering why they are all male bands (except Natalie Merchant) 2mo
WorldsOkayestStepMom Okay but that Dave Matthews album is the best. I used to listen to it all the time with my dad, and now I LOVE DMB! 2mo
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batsy Oh, these are some great choices! Can't believe I forgot 10,000 Maniacs (also yes to Rage Against the Machine! And Nine Inch Nails 😆) @WorldsOkayestStepMom I adore that DMB album, too! 2mo
Bookwomble Pixies ❤🎸 2mo
Graywacke @batsy NIN!! Of course 2mo
BarbaraBB Such a great list! My kind of music 2mo
TK421 I haven't heard Fly Me Courageous in years! I'll remedy that today. 2mo
LauraJ Are you from New Orleans? I lived there for most of the 90‘s. 🖤 2mo
Graywacke @TK421 one of my favorite memories is watching DnC play at Tipitina‘s in New Orleans, ~1994 2mo
Graywacke @LauraJ I went to Tulane (1991-95). Great time to be there. 2mo
booklahoma @Graywacke Drivin N Cryin! I still grab my guitar and stumble through "Straight To Hell" occasionally. And Cowboy Mouth - though I was a bigger fan of Red Rockers. Thanks for the memories and smiles! ??? 2mo
kalinichta I mean, how good is "Doolittle"? I was just listening to it again recently, and it still excites me. 2mo
Graywacke @booklahoma hmm. I don‘t know Red Rockers. I‘ll have to check them out. (The post sends me on nostalgia runs too 🙂) 2mo
Graywacke @kalinichta I‘m still ridiculously obsessed with the Pixies all these years later. Gouge Away gets me all worked up. 2mo
booklahoma @Graywacke Red Rockers were John Thomas Griffith's band before he was in Cowboy Mouth. Their hit song "China" is an 80s classic. I also used to see Dash Rip Rock play on the Gulf Coast bar circuit before Fred and John formed Cowboy Mouth. Good times! 2mo
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Moby Dick: bílá velryba | Melville Herman
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1. I‘ll be dog paddling and my row boat a half mile away before I can decide, so we‘ll just go with this one
2. I‘m saving Queequeg because he should have survived. Pip too, he‘s been through enough.
3. Everyone else, I guess. Sorry Ishmael.
4. The only thing I can think of is gold coin. But what would I do with it? And Ishmael‘s notes, or we don‘t have a book.
5. @catebutler and @Theaelizabet

Thanks @Gezemice
#whatwouldyoudo @DannyHattan

Gezemice Moby Dick! I must say I struggled with it. I enjoyed the story, but the endless whale chapters... not so much. 2mo
Graywacke @Gezemice I was in the right mindset when I read it. So, didn‘t mind the length, but lingered and absorbed this subversively open-minded (maybe gay and atheist) author‘s toying with overly-conservative America. He‘s become a hero of mine. Not sure I could find that experience if I read it again. (edited) 2mo
Gezemice @Graywacke Ah, lingering. I do not have the patience any more... 2mo
Graywacke @Gezemice yeah, I fight with it. Being a slow reader, it‘s essential I make some peace with patience 🙂 But it‘s tricky for me to find the right balance 2mo
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O Pioneers! | Willa Cather
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A plan! Of sorts. 😁 This is a bit tricky because there are five unequal parts to O Pioneers!, instead of four equal buddy-read friendly parts. So the plan above has a long week 2 (112 pages in my edition) with three shorter weeks, and has me posting something each Sunday for the part. Let me know your thoughts.


jmofo 👏 2mo
Tamra 👍🏾 2mo
catebutler This looks great! 2mo
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Lcsmcat Perfect! 2mo
Tanisha_A Okeydokey! 😀 2mo
CarolynM 👍 2mo
saresmoore Sounds good to me! 2mo
Graywacke @catebutler @crazeedi @Lcsmcat @Tanisha_A @Tamra @CarolynM @jmofo @saresmoore Well, I miss-tagged crazeedi (sorry, now fixed) but everyone else has ok this! Assuming crazeedi is good, we‘ll get to those the endless plains next week. 2mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke Can‘t wait! 2mo
Crazeedi Just saw this I'm ok with it! 2mo
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Notes of a Native Son | James Baldwin
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Having trouble putting thoughts together on this. His autobiographical essays are pretty powerful, especially the title essay about his 19th birthday spent dealing with his father‘s death, the birth of his youngest sister and the Harlem riots of 1943. However his non-autobiographical essays on racism made me uncomfortable because I didn‘t get them or like reading them and was left wondering what‘s wrong with me.

ProfReader I have this book; I just need to read it. (edited) 2mo
Graywacke @ProfReader hope you get to it and get more from these than I did. I would like to read any of your thoughts on them. 2mo
ProfReader Will do!!! 2mo
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A fun exploration of how the story Marco Polo told might have related to real story he experienced - tied into Coleridge‘s Xanadu. Lots of fantastic (but real) here. Wowed by his father and uncle, by the details of Ghengis Khan found only here, by Beijing, Hangzhou, by all the crazy details that were accurate, and by Venice and the world between. 👇

Graywacke I could go on endlessly: 1. His father and uncle had already met Genghis Khan before later taking Marco. So they were much bolder explorers (actually merchants). 2. The crossing took years, including fascinating places like the Lop desert. 3. The aspects of Genghis Khan‘s personality captured here exist nowhere else! Chinese records don‘t record all the quirky stuff (if we believe Marco). (edited) 2mo
Graywacke 4. China was more interesting than Europe! This was the 1200‘s. 5. It does go dry, with too much detail on Mongols, Beijing and Hangzhou 6. But then we‘re in Indonesia, in the 1200‘s. I mean, wow. 7. And there‘s still so much more to tell. (edited) 2mo
Crazeedi Wow such an interesting book! I read a book on him previously, I'll have to check this out!! 2mo
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Gezemice This sounds fascinating! What is the image? I love it. 2mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi see comment #5, but, yeah, really enjoyed it. Reader is good too, on audio. 2mo
Graywacke @Gezemice hmm. I found the image on a google search for Xanadu and Coleridge. 😊 And, yeah, it was fascinating. 2mo
Crazeedi @Graywacke 👍😉 2mo
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King Henry IV, Part 1 | William Shakespeare
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Kate and Hotspur (from a google image search).

So, this was part I and maybe/maybe-not ended anticlimactically. But it was quite wonderful to meet Falstaff and all the insults around him. Kate makes her mark, a potent foil to Hotspur, even if she just has a few appearances. Not my favorite Shakespeare, but has its moments. (And, I quietly really liked Prince Henry)


swynn Yay for love of the history plays! I think of the tetralogy Richard II - Henry IV 1 & 2 - Henry V as a single play, and it's my favorite. 2mo
Graywacke @swynn I‘ll have to backtrack to RII. I‘m reading through Shakespeare with a Litsy group, but I came in late and missed it (... lacking that initiative just now, though 🤭😊) 2mo
Gezemice @Graywacke I missed it too but Shakespeare‘d out. Instead I am reading about the 2mo
Graywacke @Gezemice You‘re on theme! But, yes, I‘ll take my week off. 🙂 I‘m enjoying reading these plays at this leisurely pace. 2mo
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Spent part of our Spring Break making a small dent in this brick. (The book caused a security check on one flight!)

uva uvam vivendo varia fit - whatever that means.

Graywacke @kaye 🙂!! 2mo
Kaye I looked it up a long time ago. McMurtry being a bit humorous with Gus‘ supposed knowledge far beyond that of his “ partners”. Such a wonderful book. 2mo
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Graywacke @kaye google translate has its own way with the translation. Yeah, fun book so far. 2mo
Tamra 💜 2mo
Graywacke @Tamra 🙂 2mo
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Milkman | Anna Burns
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Started a new audiobook, the latest Booker Prize winner.

Cathythoughts I did the audible as well ... excellent 2mo
Graywacke @Cathythoughts I‘m adapting to the narrator‘s accent. ☺️ But, yeah, good stuff so far - at least it has me wondering. 2mo
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Deaf Republic: Poems | Ilya Kaminsky
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About time I try some not-ancient poetry. This was just released this year.

Tanisha_A Haha. Think I need to read some not-ancient poetry too. Maybe this 2mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A I‘m curious! 2mo
SqueakyChu I saw this in the library. What did you think of it? I need to read some short books (preferably good ones) since I‘m still in LT‘s 75 Book group, and I‘m concurrently reading (edited) 2mo
Graywacke @SqueakyChu well... I can‘t answer that yet. 😁😊 Too many books at once, so this has gotten much attention yet. I‘ll let you know when I spend some more time with it. 2mo
SqueakyChu @Graywacke Heh! I know that feeling. I‘m juggling four books at once myself. I‘ll wait to hear, though! 😃 2mo
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O Pioneers! | Willa Cather
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Just checking in (after mostly being off Litsy for a week, while on vacation). The book waits impatiently for an April buddy read. Let me know if April 1 is a good start date (happens to be my birthday 😊🤫)

@catebutler @Lcsmcat @Crazeedi @Tanisha_A @Tamra


Graywacke @CarolynM @jmofo @batsy @Liz_M - just tagging you this one time as an invite to join the buddy read of this book in April. 2mo
saresmoore I would love to join in this buddy read! 2mo
Graywacke @saresmoore 👍 👍 2mo
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Lcsmcat April 1st works for me! 2mo
zsuzsanna_reads Enjoy! I really liked this book. Come to think of it, I like everything by Willa Cather. 2mo
Tamra I‘m up for it! Please send me reminder. 🤪 2mo
Crazeedi Yes I will join in! 2mo
CarolynM Lovely idea. I'll have to see if I can find my copy🙂 2mo
catebutler Can‘t wait to start this one next month. The 1st works for me! 2mo
jmofo Hey thanks! I‘m gonna give it a spin! Thanks for inviting me! 2mo
Graywacke @saresmoore glad you‘re joining us! 2mo
Graywacke @zsuzsanna_reads this will be my second Cather. Read tagged book. There was some talk...🙂... of reading the whole trilogy. Will see how that pans out. 2mo
Graywacke @Tamra will do! 👍 2mo
Graywacke @CarolynM @jmofo happy you guys are joining! 2mo
batsy Thank you. Just read it last year so I won't be joining, but I hope you all enjoy! It's a lovely book. 2mo
Graywacke @batsy thanks. Let me know if you would like me to keep you tagged so you can follow along. 2mo
Graywacke @catebutler @crazeedi @Lcsmcat @Tanisha_A @Liz_M @Tamra @CarolynM @jmofo @saresmoore So you all know, I‘m kind if a dork at this. This post was just to remind everyone when there‘s still time to find a copy and make sure the energy was still there. It clearly is! I‘ll post again closer to April 1. I‘m thinking of posting a reading plan - breaking the book into 4 weekly sections somehow, for those (like me) who might want to follow that plan... 2mo
Graywacke ...Not that I‘m stuck to a reading plan, but it seems like something that works really well here. Anyway, looking forward to starting ... and hope you all had a happy St Pat‘s Day. 2mo
CarolynM 👍 2mo
Tamra @Graywacke I am largely a monogamous reader in print, so I may plow thru quickly, but I still love a buddy read because it‘s a prompt and then it‘s fresh on my mind. 👍🏾😁 2mo
catebutler Dan, I think that‘s a great idea! We can discuss the section of reading at the end of each week too, if everyone is up for that. 2mo
batsy No worries, I'll peek at discussions by looking at the hashtag and all of your posts 😁 2mo
Tanisha_A Yes sir! Done! 😀 2mo
saresmoore Reading plan sounds great! Thanks for letting me join in! 2mo
Graywacke @zsuzsanna_reads brain dead... I recently read the tagged book - except this time I‘m actually tagging it. 😐🙂 2mo
Graywacke @CarolynM @catebutler @Tanisha_A 👍 🙂 @Tamra sounds good @batsy makes sense @saresmoore absolutely, you‘re welcome 🙂 2mo
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Notes of a Native Son | James Baldwin
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It‘s been a crappy reading month so far. Nothing is working, these essays have been tough. But this one, the title essay in the collection, is terrific. First time I felt like I could relax, trust the author to lead, and just read.

Theaelizabet Baldwin, for me, is the essays, but my favorite short story is “Sonny‘s Blues.” Guts me every time. Hope the month gets better for you. 2mo
Graywacke @Theaelizabet “Sonny‘s Blues” is in Going to Meet the Man. I‘ll get there. Baldwin‘s still a lot of mystery to me. Some of these essays leave me wondering. They‘re his earliest essays and I‘m not sure if that just means these are steps toward creating his voice, or if this is him. (edited) 2mo
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King Henry IV, Part 1 | William Shakespeare
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Time to catch up (#shakespearereadalong)

GingerAntics Same here. I got so wrapped up in the Robin Williams Bio I couldn‘t bring myself to take a half hour away to read this act. Doing it now. 3mo
Graywacke @GingerAntics that‘s a good reason. This a another fun act, especially the opening with Hotspur and Glendower (sp?) 3mo
GingerAntics I liked that part as well. The other two scenes had me rolling my eyes a bit. (edited) 3mo
Graywacke @GingerAntics i say more in the general discussion... 3mo
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Lonesome Dove: A Novel | Larry McMurtry
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Have a trip coming. A few new books because, you know, have to be prepared.

Bklover Lonesome Dove ❤️❤️❤️💙 3mo
Graywacke @Bklover I‘ve read a few compliments. 🙂 Hopefully this means I‘ll read it. 3mo
saresmoore Great choices! 3mo
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Graywacke @saresmoore 🙂 👍 3mo
Graywacke (Meanwhile, I‘ll quietly add in here that, 11 months into Litsy my Litfluence thingy just crossed 10,000) 3mo
Crazeedi @Graywacke congrats! And have a good trip!😊 3mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi thanks. Looking forward to it!! 3mo
Tamra Litsy, it‘s a terrible good thing! 😆 3mo
BarbaraBB Great stack. Have a good trip! 3mo
Graywacke @Tamra so true. 👍 3mo
Graywacke @BarbaraBB thanks B. Still a bit ahead. I‘m planning early. 🙂 3mo
Liz_M Looks like some excellent choices! 3mo
Graywacke @Liz_M club read 2019 is responsible for the top three. 🙂 The last one, well, I was going to wait for Circe in paperback but release date is September... 3mo
Liz_M Yep. I haven't read any of these but certainly have seen the many glowing LT reviews! 3mo
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Notes of a Native Son | James Baldwin
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It seems it‘s never easy with Baldwin. He fights simplicity, showering the reader with startling unexpected lines and apparent contradictions that are resolved by, and only by, thinking it through a bit more. I‘m reading this now. The opening autobiographical essay required me to put the book down and just think a while. The second essay, quoted above, on Uncle Tom‘s cabin demanded my attention. Trying to get my footing.

jmofo 🖤🖤🖤 3mo
Graywacke @jmofo 👍 3mo
TheWintergarden Insightful and truth.🖤 2mo
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Pictured is Ácoma, my favorite area described in the book.

My first Cather hits all sorts of uncomfortable spots - missionaries, superiority of the religious and of western European culture. But Cather won me over because she was a great writer, humbled to the historical facts and to the landscape. She captures New Mexico, centered on Santa Fe, both in its 19th-century isolation and its natural timelessness. Will read more by her.

Graywacke @catebutler @crazeedi @Lcsmcat @batsy @Tanisha_A @Liz_M - just tagging you in case you were wondering where I ended up on this one. (I still plan to write a somewhat longer review - not for Litsy though) 3mo
Crazeedi This is one of my favorite places in the United states! 3mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi pretty spectacular. I‘ve been places in NM, but they were not like this. 3mo
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Crazeedi @Graywacke I saw from distance, my daughter and her partner got to see up close. I've been to painted desert, petrified forest, sandia mountain, jemez and other places. I long to go back 3mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi hmm. Me too. I‘m on the wrong side of tx, so it‘s so close yet so far. (I-40 leaves memories of a lot of basalt covered in light snow...and petrified forest. That was a long time ago for me. And there‘s white sands, the volcanic cones...) 3mo
catebutler Great review! What a stunning view, NM is such a beautiful state. So many sweeping vistas. 3mo
Graywacke @catebutler so true, Cate, about NM. (And thanks!) 3mo
Crazeedi @Graywacke oh yes I've been in southern nm too. The whole state is so amazing, the very large array! 3mo
Lcsmcat Cather was such a talented writer! You should try 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat we‘re actually talking about an April buddy read for O Pioneers (with @catebutler and possibly @Crazeedi). I have copies of both, so some day!! 3mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi indeed 👍 3mo
CarolynM Echoing @Lcsmcat Both those books are fabulous. 3mo
Graywacke @CarolynM they seem to inspire a lot of literary 💜 3mo
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I could do with a reread! Let me know. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat I‘m going to tag you in the conversation 3mo
Lcsmcat Thanks! 3mo
jmofo I love Acoma, too. And I also struggled reading this book, as the accounts erased the non-white experiences and her presenting manipulation by an authority of the church as charming was gross. But she did describe NM and CO so well as well as life-long friendship. 3mo
Graywacke @jmofo yes, it was the undercurrent that bothered me. I convinced myself she wasn‘t really aware of this or at least not from the perspective we have now. (she was writing in the 1920‘s) That she really meant to show everything. Anyway, I bought into her as having integrity and left it there. Of course she was human. Could be better or worse. ?? 3mo
batsy I loved O Pioneers so much. Nice review; now I know how to prepare myself for this one re: some of those themes... And this photo is gorgeous. Just wow. 3mo
Graywacke @batsy Thanks. Ácoma is actually more impressive in the text, as she describes it and how the people lived with it. ...... Since I basically closed my eyes and picked this off the shelf, I was not prepared. ? 3mo
Tanisha_A Superb review! Thank you. I am certainly excited to read her, whenever I get to her! That picture is 😍! 3mo
Tamra Cather is such an evocative writer! 3mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A Thank you! And, yeah, that place - didn‘t even know it existed. I tagged in a conversation for a what‘s becoming a group read, in case you might be interested to get Cather soon. 3mo
Graywacke @Tamra yeah, she is. I enjoyed how much she loved and captured the landscape. 3mo
Tamra @Graywacke I‘d love to reread any Cather as buddy read! (edited) 3mo
Graywacke @Tamra cool. I‘ll tag you in the conversation. 3mo
Liz_M Sigh. I spent a summer in Santa Fe and somehow missed seeing anything else of the state. 3mo
Graywacke @Liz_M was it a nice summer? 3mo
Liz_M @Graywacke Yes, mostly. Some good memories and I loved the beautiful, almost nightly, lightning storms. 3mo
Graywacke @Liz_M Seems like a lovely place to live for a bit (and maybe I‘m a little down on Houston) (edited) 3mo
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The only preserved novel of the Roman Empire is notable for its simple straightforward language (in translation, but apparently also in Latin), its heavy play on Roman taboos, especially sexual ones, its love of story telling and maybe its hidden complexities. Playful overall and an enjoyable read.

Bookwomble I have this in an old Folio edition - I must get around to reading it! 3mo
Graywacke @Bookwomble it‘s an easy read, a stroll in the park. Took me a while, but it was never difficult and I was only bored when the notes overkill insisted I try harder to read between the lines. (That is, it can be difficult if you try to grasp all the extra meanings) 3mo
Bookwomble @Graywacke I think my copy is free of notes, so I'll just have to make of it what I can 😊 3mo
Graywacke @Bookwomble ah, that‘s maybe one solution! 3mo
BarbaraBB Happy to hear it‘s not that difficult. I wouldn‘t have guessed and have left it on my shelves for years! 3mo
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I‘m not entirely sure what I‘m doing by voluntarily reading this, but I do appreciate the opening sentence (there‘s a period in there eventually)

Mtroiano Good luck! 3mo
Graywacke @Mtroiano thanks! 😳 (😊) 3mo
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King Henry IV, Part 1 | William Shakespeare
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Just polishing up on my 16th-century insults.


Tanisha_A Hahahah. Thanks, i am going to use them too. 😆 3mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A I imagine calling someone a bulls pizzle would at least get them to pause quizzically a moment. 🙂 3mo
CoffeeNBooks There are some great ones a few pages after that, too! 3mo
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batsy Ahahaha, yes! I'm taking detailed notes of the insults 😂 3mo
Graywacke @CoffeeNBooks Quite an act overall, no? I finished thinking the act II is lesson in this stuff. 3mo
megansaurusrex Lol! Wow, I didn't know I needed this in my life. 3mo
Graywacke @batsy 😆 3mo
Graywacke @megansaurusrex right. Joy of Shakespeare. (And maybe a reward for surviving Act I !!) 3mo
CoffeeNBooks @Graywacke I can't wait until I have an opportunity to call someone a bolting-hutch of beastliness or a stuffed cloakbag of guts, lol! 😂🤣😂 3mo
Tanisha_A @Graywacke Hahah yes. And dried neat's tongue. That'll fizzle their brains out. 3mo
Lcsmcat I love Will‘s insults! I need to work starvling and bull-pizzle into my conversation. 3mo
Gezemice This is awesome. 😂 3mo
TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat language goals for the week!!! 3mo
Graywacke @CoffeeNBooks @Tanisha_A @Lcsmcat Could start a trend... @Gezemice 🙂 @TheBookHippie expanding our vocabulary! ... to all, Doesn‘t this add a new perspective when thinking about the influence of Shakespeare on this language? 3mo
zsuzsanna_reads @Lcsmcat I regularly buy bull's puzzle for my dogs. Available at good pet shops and on Amazon 😁 3mo
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I‘m starting this, a second random book off the shelf, with help of critic.

Lcsmcat And a good book it is. 3mo
batsy Sweet 😻 And that's a lovely edition. 3mo
Graywacke @Lcsmcat 👍 I haven‘t read Cather before. So it‘s all new to me. 3mo
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Graywacke @batsy cool thing about the edition (1971 Vintage), which came from my in-laws: there‘s a bookmark inside from “Plaza Paperbacks” with an address of 1903 Walnut Street, on Rittenhouse. That must be the store in Philadelphia where they got it from - presumably in 1971. Trying to treat the book well. 3mo
Tanisha_A I have never read her. First I have on list is My Antonia! 3mo
Tanisha_A And, that's so cool and special about the edition! 3mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A I‘ve been meaning to read her for a long time. Finally opening a copy. I‘m entertained. The pace early on is very fast, but then there are these meaningful paragraphs where I need to kind of let the image sink in a moment. Also lots of lovely landscapes. 3mo
catebutler Cather is fantastic, definitely one of my favourites. I‘m so happy to hear you‘re enjoying your first reading of her. Her imagery is astounding, it definitely leaves much to ponder and reflect on. P. S. Your vintage copy is lovely! 3mo
Liz_M I want your shelves -- you seem to have gotten a couple of great reads randomly from them! ☺ 3mo
Graywacke @Liz_M awe, thanks. It's odd, there are lots that I really want to read on those shelves, but the brain plays tricks on me. 3mo
Tanisha_A @Graywacke Isn't that great! That sounds like almost perfect writing style - good pace, inclusive of meaningful paragraphs! 3mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A I‘m halfway through now. The writing is good, the moralizing - is she moralizing... - anyway, I read with a sort of paused concern, and curiosity. She is exploring a multicultural clash on many levels. Our author plays neutral, maybe. Anyway, she has my attention in these wandering tales. 3mo
Crazeedi @Graywacke @catebutler @Tanisha_A I think I've only read this one by her, years ago, it was really good 3mo
catebutler @Crazeedi ‘My Antonia‘ is stunning! It was my first Cather and made me want to read more. I do have a few left to read, I‘ve been holding on to them, I love her so! 3mo
Crazeedi @catebutler then I must find some of her others and put in my tbr! 3mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi @catebutler My Antonia - some day! I have a few others on the shelf too - O Pioneers, Shadows on the Rock. 3mo
catebutler @Graywacke @Crazeedi I love seeing others reading her. If either of you are ever up for a buddy read, do let me know! 3mo
Graywacke @catebutler @crazeedi In theory I‘m up for a buddy read, but, admittedly, I‘ve never figured out how to do them exactly...😕 3mo
catebutler @Graywacke @Crazeedi No worries! Basically we would decide on the book, a reading schedule, and then post and discuss, you can do it by breaking down chapters or by a final discussion at the end. They can be really in-depth or a laid back read. I find them quite fun, since they motivate me to get to a book that‘s been lingering for a while. 3mo
Graywacke @catebutler don‘t want to commit anyone, but I‘m open to this. (Although March is kind a loaded for me, reading-wise). Have three Cather‘s in the shelf. 3mo
catebutler @Graywacke How about we plan on reading one of hers in April? I‘m fine with reading whichever one you‘d like to read. 3mo
Graywacke @catebutler April works! O Pioneers is looking at me - I think it‘s volunteering itself. (This way I‘m not to blame 😉) The others I have are Shadows in the Rock and My Antonia. 3mo
catebutler @Graywacke Ha! Too funny! O Pioneers it is then! I‘ll mark it down for April. It will be so fun to get back to her works again, it‘s been awhile. 3mo
Crazeedi @catebutler put me down if its April, I would be interested. I would have to know which book to get, since I dont have any of hers 3mo
Crazeedi @catebutler so its o pioneers? 3mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi yes, we‘ll read O Pioneers in April. A good excuse to read it!! 🙂 3mo
catebutler @Graywacke @Crazeedi I‘m so looking forward to reading with the both of you! 3mo
Graywacke @catebutler @Crazeedi - we might have four!! @Lcsmcat is interested. Might demand a good hashtag. #catherbuddyread ?? 3mo
catebutler @Graywacke @Crazeedi @Lcsmcat Sounds great! The more the merrier. And I think the hashtag is brilliant!💡 3mo
Lcsmcat Love the hashtag! 3mo
Crazeedi @Graywacke @Lcsmcat @catebutler excellent hashtag! I will get the book and be ready!😊 3mo
Graywacke @Tanisha_A - just checking, are you interested in joining us in April for O Pioneers? 3mo
Graywacke @tamra - See comments above - err, the ones from yesterday. It‘s all kinda unplanned, but I‘ll try to “organize” it before April 1. 3mo
Tamra @Graywacke 👍🏾 3mo
Crazeedi @Graywacke @catebutler @Lcsmcat @Tamra did you know O Pioneers is part of a trilogy? It's first, then The Song of the Lark, then My Antonia. I was looking for O Pioneers on overdrive to borrow when we read, and the blurb said first of trilogy!! We might want to think about #catherbuddyread and continue with them?! Thoughts?? 3mo
Tanisha_A @Graywacke Cool, let's do it! 😀 Thankee! 3mo
Lcsmcat @Crazeedi I didn‘t realize that she considered them a trilogy, but it was pretty clear that they‘re connected. I‘m down for a reread of all three if y‘all are! 3mo
Crazeedi @Lcsmcat so you've read them, I have not. If you want it'd be great! 3mo
Crazeedi @Tanisha_A glad you're in too!! 3mo
Graywacke @Crazeedi @Tanisha_A @Lcsmcat had no idea. I‘m interested. 3mo
Lcsmcat @Crazeedi I have, but not back to back and not in a long time. It‘ll be interesting to read them with that in mind. 3mo
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