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North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Graywacke
North and South: Easyread Edition | Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell
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Mehso-so

So, this was all a morality tale? Middle class well- educated but impoverished Margaret Hale sees both sides of Marx and Engel‘s Manchester and … finds a dumb strike-leader/factory worker and respectable attractive factory owner who just needs to understand his workers better. Got that? Also she matures, and religion is good, and fortune spins, and other stuff happens. For me this represents the paternal contradictions of the 19th century.

Graywacke The painting is titled Our Town by Laurence Stephen Lowry, 1943. The town is Manchester. 2w
Ruthiella A much loved novel that I did not love either. Gaskell seems to really want the reader to love and admire Margaret and I pretty much found her to be insufferable. 2w
BarbaraBB I had been planning on reading this one later this year but now I‘m not so sure anymore. 2w
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Graywacke @Ruthiella i can see that. Ms. perfect and morally superior can be really irritating. I think Gaskell wrote her as an ideal model 18-yr-old. 2w
Graywacke @BarbaraBB it‘s such a classic it‘s definitely worth reading. It‘s a little slow, but Gaskell knows her topics. It‘s the subtext and paternalism (to the poor and to the reader) that bothered me. 2w
Ann_Reads @Graywacke - Nice summary. I really liked this novel when I read it once upon a time during my Gaskell phase. If I read it now, from a more mature pov, I suspect my opinion would be different. Margaret's “perfection“ and contradictions, would totally irritate me. 2w
DivineDiana Haven‘t read the book ... yet. But I did enjoy the movie. 🙂 2w
Graywacke @Ann_Reads i was mildly amused by Margaret herself. The presentation of her always acting immature, sometimes disastrously, but still actually appropriately was a but tough for me. 2w
Graywacke @DivineDiana I‘m interested in a movie version. 2w
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Graywacke
North and South: Easyread Edition | Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell
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Started this Sunday, part of a Victorian theme on LibraryThing. I basically missed all the Victorian novels, so filling in. I‘ll try to pick through it in little pieces over the next two months (in between other things).

BarbaraBB This is also one I‘ve been meaning to read. 2mo
Graywacke @BarbaraBB you can always join the group read 🙂 (although I think I‘m the only one who has started) 2mo
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StolenBookmobile
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell

Update: I never got to it. Sunshine, a nap, and my kids dominated the day. Ah well…..I‘ll try again in October. I‘ll be starting this today for the Dewey's 24 hour readathon. I'm not sure i filled out the form correctly.....but gonna have fun anyway haha.
#readathon #Dewey's24HourReadathon

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nanuska_153
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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I'm giving this a Pan but it could be a generous So-So.The only reason why I didn't bail on this one is because I was doing chalter a day with #Pemberlittens. I didn't connect with any of the characters, Thornton's love comes from nowhere and it's so intensely exagerated that sometimes is even funny, Margaret's love seem to come from nowhere,even when we have "access to her thoughts" through the narrative they are never mentioned ⬇️

nanuska_153 Although I'm very interested in social rights and the difference between classes I didn't appreciate the fact that we hear all the arguments against the strikes and the workers, but although the characters seem to change their ideas we don't see why or hear any debate so I don't know how anybody reading it at the time could get any ideas in favour of workers rights.⬇️ 2mo
nanuska_153 Sorry I couldn't keep up with chapter a day! A family visit to introduce the baby and organise the wedding took up all my time! 😔 Thanks to @MicrobeMom for hosting! 2mo
Libby1 I agree! 2mo
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truthinfiction I do agree with your review despite liking the book and developing a massive crush on John Thornton. The discussions were a little hard to follow. The end particularly fizzled out. 2mo
Ruthiella Those memes you were able to post while reading were priceless! 😂 I would also only give it a generous so so for similar reasons. 2mo
eeclayton I wholeheartedly agree. Your posts were much more enjoyable than the book 😁 2mo
nanuska_153 @truthinfiction He was too intense for me without much reason for it to develop a crush, which is a pity cause I had heard of many people with a crush on him and there's nothing that I enjoy more than a literary crush 2mo
nanuska_153 @Ruthiella @eeclayton Aww thanks! ♥️ The fact that I couldn't take the book too seriously made it an easy target for memes 😅 2mo
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LitStephanie
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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I loved this story about a family who moves from a farming community to an industrial city and the culture shock that ensues. Sometimes it is really cringey reading about the imperious "masters" (factory owners) and their free market, anti-union rhetoric, and the patronizing descriptions of the hands are disgusting. But I also appreciate the historical snapshot of peoples' attitudes, and there is character development here. Both Margaret and ⏬

LitStephanie her new friends in Milton learn about the others' perspective and lose some of their prejudices. I also loved the portrayal of family tensions and loyalty and the themes of overcoming old ways of thinking to make way for love and friendship. #pemberlittens 2mo
batsy Lovely review! I agree, I enjoyed the book for a lot of those same reasons. 2mo
LitStephanie @batsy thanks! I love that Gaskell writes about the non-idle classes, i.e. most people. 2mo
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Crinoline_Laphroaig
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Pickpick

I'm doing the good Auntie thing today. Picking up from Dental Surgery and watching over. So getting caught up on my Litsy Reviews.

Thanks for hosting at @MicrobeMom. I always have fun with #PemberLittens. This was my 2nd reading. It's the favorite book of a Library friend of mine so I read it few years ago. This time I did audio. Enjoyable but still love Jane more.

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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens me me! 🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️

batsy A little bit since I finished, yes 😆 2mo
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Mehso-so

#pemberlittens I was so happy to do this buddy read, but I am not sure so would have finished it it I was required to read more than a chapter a day. I loved that this was grittier than a Jane Austen novel and really delved into conflicts between the upper class and the working class. I also loved Mr. Thornton‘s transformation and the moments of feminism. However, I did find big chunks of this novel boring and unnecessary. I agree with others👇

MicrobeMom that Gaskell used the death of characters to move the plot along. I also found there was little to no humor in this book which I find very different from Austen‘s novels. Lastly, I found Margaret a disappointing protagonist. Just when I felt she was going to come into her own and live up the feminist ideal she does not. I felt this in several places in the book. I am happy I read this and did enjoy doing the chapter a day report! 2mo
sprainedbrain Great review, and THANK YOU so much for hosting! ❤️ 2mo
Julsmarshall Great review and you were a wonderful host! 2mo
eeclayton My thoughts exactly. Thanks for hosting ❤️ 2mo
LitStephanie Thank you for hosting and all your memes that made me laugh and brightened my day! 2mo
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #chapter52NS Finally!! In our last chapter Margaret and Mr. Lennox spend lots of time talking properties and not marriage much to Edith‘s chagrin. The next day Mr. Lennox, Mr. Thornton, & Margaret are to meet but Mr. Lennox never shows. Margaret is forced to meet with John alone. She tries ineloquently to explain that she want to give him some of her money to stay in business. This quickly devolves into again ineloquent 👇👇

MicrobeMom Professions of love. They will marry and live happily ever after. I am happy and sad to have finished this book. I will post my review tomorrow! 2mo
Julsmarshall 😍 2mo
CrowCAH Finally!!! OMG I waited till the last page to get a HEA for those two! ❤️ 2mo
sprainedbrain ❤️ 2mo
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mklong
North and South: Easyread Edition | Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell
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Pickpick

While I didn‘t warm up to any of the characters enough for this to be a favorite, I‘m glad that I finally got around to reading this classic. I had fun reading along with my fellow #Pemberlittens and huge thanks to @MicrobeMom for leading the read along!

MicrobeMom Yay! This was so fun! Glad you enjoyed. 2mo
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eeclayton
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Mehso-so

I didn't hate it, but didn't like it either. Most of the characters are ego-centered or weak, and/or die. I found the romance unconvincing. The ending was rather abrupt, too. The themes explored are important and interesting, but that's all I can list on the positive side.
Reading with the #Pemberlittens added a lot to the enjoyment factor for me. Thanks for hosting @MicrobeMom and a shoutout to @nanuska_153 for your hilarious posts 😂

MicrobeMom Thanks for your review!! 2mo
nanuska_153 Thanks so much! It's a pity I couldn't keep it up! 2mo
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AnneCecilie
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Pickpick

I‘m so glad I read this with the #PemberLittens. Reading this a chapter a day, increased my enjoyed of this.

About the North and South of England which is between industry and farmers. About masters and workers. About the new world and the old.

Margaret grew on me and Edith annoyed me.

I loved your daily summaries and memes @MicrobeMom so thanks for tagging me.

@sprainedbrain

LitStephanie I also really like the contrast between old world farming country and the new industrialized country. 2mo
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter51NS Mr. Thornton is visiting London to settle the loss of his business and to sublet his factory and home. Mr. Lennox gets him an invite to dinner at Edith‘s. Margaret wishes not to attend but is forced by Edith. While Margaret is checking John out, he is doing an excellent job of avoiding her. It is clear that he has lost everything, but he tells Margaret that all his men want to for him again. He knows this will 👇👇

MicrobeMom please her and it does. After dinner, Margaret makes plans to meet with Mr. Lennox to discuss thing Milton. I have know doubt Margaret is going to do some grand gesture for John. I cannot wait to finish tomorrow. 2mo
CrowCAH Gosh, yes she will help him out in some way. She has such a large giving heart! 2mo
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Palimpsest
North and South: Easyread Edition | Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell
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Pickpick

I finished this a couple of weeks ago, but forgot to post about it. I enjoyed this story as an audiobook; Margaret moving from a quaint town in the South to trying to adjust to an industrial town where a strike takes place. I read that this book was initially serialized and Gaskell had wanted the book to be longer, but had to cut it short by two episodes. I would like to see what she intended as I feel that the romance portion was cut short.

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mollyrotondo
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I‘m so glad I finally read this classic. I had steered clear of it but thank you #pemberlittens and @MicrobeMom for picking this one and leading a great discussion these past two months. This was an excellent book giving me insight into the industrial revolution in England and the parallels between country living and city dwelling. Very detailed and pretty depressing. Very different style from Austen but she was writing later than Austen

MicrobeMom Great review! So glad you enjoyed! 2mo
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Julsmarshall
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Pickpick

First #buddyread with #PemberLittens was so fun! Lovely to read so slowly, a chapter a day and, while it was strange at first, I enjoyed the pace and the time it gave me to think through the themes. A grittier world than Austen‘s, but the push/pull between industry/class, city/rural, business owner/worker, individual/community is riveting. Mr. Thornton is a great hero because he is so invested in the relationship. @MicrobeMom @sprainedbrain

MicrobeMom Great review and I am glad you enjoyed it!! I can‘t wait to see how it ends. 2mo
sprainedbrain Lovely review! 2mo
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TheAromaofBooks
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Mehso-so

Well, I went ahead and finished this one yesterday - I got behind on the chapter-a-day schedule when I was sick over the weekend and then had no idea where I was supposed to be, so I just went for the gold! 😂 I'm glad to have read this one, but can't particularly say I enjoyed it. I found Margaret to be sanctimonious and boring. Gaskell's only method for forwarding the plot was killing off another character so that we could watch Margaret be ⬇

TheAromaofBooks (cont'd) sad and strong and her eyes shimmer with unshed tears. She's surrounded by child-adults who seem incapable of doing anything besides wringing their hands and sighing over how they wish things were different. Thornton is the only one with any kind of actual character development and that's covered in about five pages towards the end. The book could have been a lot more interesting if we'd actually spent time on Thornton learning to ⬇ 2mo
TheAromaofBooks (cont'd) appreciate his workers and setting up programs for them, but that happens off-page for the most part because we're busy watching Margaret be sad about 79th person in her life who has died in the last year. I can see why people are fond of this one, but I would have bailed if I'd been trying to get through more than a chapter a day. I didn't find the romance particularly believable (or interesting) especially on Thornton's part and the ⬇ 2mo
TheAromaofBooks (cont'd) long swaths of nothing happening except for people having feelings took up way too much of the book for my personal tastes.

However, really enjoyed reading this with the #PemberLittens - I'm reading books I wouldn't otherwise pick up and it's been fun to explore some classics I've avoided!!

@sprainedbrain @MicrobeMom - thanks for hosting the readalong!!
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MicrobeMom Great review! I agree with many points. I have enjoyed this read despite the flaws and I look forward to finishing it In two days! Thanks for participating! 2mo
Daisey I agree with so many of the points you made here. I just kept wanting more, and you're right that some of what I wanted did happen with Thornton but it was off the page and that was frustrating to me. I wanted to see theose changes and that growth to bring the two of them together actually occuring in the story. 2mo
sprainedbrain Love this review! 2mo
TheAromaofBooks @MicrobeMom @sprainedbrain - I may have been a bit harsh in this review 😂 I didn't hate it, I just felt like it lacked forward motion a LOT! 2mo
TheAromaofBooks @Daisey - I think that's really part of the issue - maybe Gaskell didn't feel comfortable delving too deeply into the masculine psyche or something, but I think this book would have been significantly more interesting if it had focused more on the changes Thornton made both inwardly and outwardly. He changes more than anyone else in the book, but it's somewhat hard to see because it's almost entirely off-page. 2mo
eeclayton Couldn't agree more. I too would have bailed if it wasn't for the #Pemberlittens 2mo
nanuska_153 "Because we are busy watching Margaret be sad about the 79th person in her life who has died" ?? 100% agree with your review. I don't know what's more unbelievable, Thornton's exaggerated love, or Margaret love that's so sudden that it could happen the same way in page 10 instead of 350 2mo
TheAromaofBooks @nanuska_153 - I was so confused that he literally just fell in love with her as soon as he saw her and then is obsessed with her even though she hates pretty much everything about him... until she doesn't?!?!!? And it was like every time the author needed something to happen, the only thing she could think of to do was to kill somebody off!! 😂 I see why people like this one, but it was not for me! 2mo
nanuska_153 @TheAromaofBooks The fact that the author kept killing people was hilarious. Margaret's love is so nonsensical that I was surprised Thornton understood she was in love cause she offered money, I thought she was just being nice for once xD Thornton was so intense it ended up being funny, I didn't enjoy the book, but him angrily delivering delicious fruit will be forever in my memory as one of the funniest moments in literature. 2mo
TheAromaofBooks @nanuska_153 - Oh my gosh, the fruit scene was THE BEST. And honestly, I've been in a similar situation before... I gotta do something nice, but I don't have to be happy about it 😂 2mo
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter50NS Trade is bad in Milton and John‘s business has not recovered since the strike. His bet on the Irish workers ended up being disastrous. John‘s brother-in-law wants him to dump his borrowed money into some speculation scheme. After a dramatic talks with Mrs. Thornton he decides not too and is forces to give up his business. While he is offer a few positions, he is waiting for the right one. He also finds👇👇

MicrobeMom out that the speculation scheme made his brother-in-law a very rich man. During all of this, because he was forced to borrow money, Margaret somehow becomes his landlord through the properties she inherited from Mr. Bell. Also, Higgins reveals that Fred was in Milton at the time of Mrs. Hale‘s death. John is comforted that Margaret never did anything improper. He now regains his respect of her. I have 8 pages left and It is killing me! (edited) 2mo
Julsmarshall It was killing me too, @MicrobeMom and so I finished it this morning! I haven‘t participated in a buddy read before-are we supposed to tag everyone (anyone?) in our review? 2mo
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MicrobeMom @Julsmarshall I am trying to be patient. Feel free to tag whoever you like. I tag everyone in my daily posts because I volunteered to give each chapter a summary. I would love any tags to see people‘s thoughts on the book and the chapter a day experience. I think @sprainedbrain would also like a tag because she organized it all! Thanks for participating! (edited) 2mo
CrowCAH Yeah I didn‘t quite get how Mr Thornton became a tenant of Margaret‘s, but it was an interesting juxtaposition for their roles of “master” and “hand.” 2mo
Crinoline_Laphroaig @Julsmarshall I usually find things other reviews by using the #PemberLittens tag. I go through it every so often for reviews 2mo
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LitStephanie
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Chapter 53? I know we are past this chapter, but this quote just slayed me: "If my tones, or modes of thought, are what you dislike, will you do me the justice to tell me so, and so give me the chance of learning to please you?" ??? Because that's how love and respect work. #pemberlittens

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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #chapter49NS Margaret has inherited a substantial sum from Mr. Bell. Henry Lennox is helping her sort it out. She is still upset Mr. Thornton does not know her truth. The family travels to the sea where Margaret grieves and is able to come to some resolutions. Henry is finding her more attractive and amiable. The family is hopeful. Upon their return, Margaret has decided to take matters into her own hands👇👇

MicrobeMom and start living her own life. Go get it Margaret! It is about time. Love the feminism! This was a very important chapter for Margaret! 2mo
LitStephanie Hahaha, exactly! And also, wouldn't ten years younger be about 11? To Lennox's credit, he did propose before she gained her fortune, although he did think she should be really grateful about it. 😆 2mo
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MicrobeMom @LitStephanie yes he did. He is not horrible but he was shocked by their poverty in Helstone. I can I my image what he would have thought of Milton. But to be fair I do genuine think he has some affection for Margaret. I just don‘t like him. 😂😂 2mo
CrowCAH I‘m with you @MicrobeMom I don‘t like Henry Lennox. But he does kinda have a brotherly affection for her. He is helping her with her finances and not taking advantage of the funds. 2mo
MicrobeMom @CrowCAH yes you are right Mr. Lennox is trying and doesn‘t want Margaret unless he wants him. I am hiding his harshly for the sake of a funny meme. 😊 2mo
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DebinHawaii
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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I must be honest, this is a reluctant pick because I admire Elizabeth Gaskell‘s quite modern writing for 1854 about the classes, gender roles, & the rural life vs industrialization, but I slogged through this one, got behind & then did 3 chapters a day to catch up & finally finished it to get it off my plate. I‘m glad I read it, but found almost every character tedious (occasionally even John Thornton who was the best of the lot). I‘ll forever ⬇️

DebinHawaii …think of it as a mostly depressing novel where almost every character is either annoying, dies or is annoying & then dies. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Read with the #PemberLittens 2mo
rubyslippersreads Have you seen the BBC miniseries? I watched it before reading the book. I think being able to picture Richard Armitage as Mr. Thornton vastly enhanced my enjoyment of the book. 😂 2mo
DebinHawaii @rubyslippersreads I have not but I may try it! 😉 2mo
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sprainedbrain I‘m with @rubyslippersreads about watching Thornton helping. This was a rare instance where I maybe liked the miniseries more than the book. 😬 2mo
Julsmarshall I agree with you all the way around! And I agree with @rubyslippersreads that Richard Armitage is a wonderful Mr. Thornton and with @sprainedbrain that the miniseries is more enjoyable than the book. 2mo
LitStephanie 🤣🤣your review is so funny. Annoying people who then die, haha! 2mo
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter48NS So Margaret is attending Mrs. Shaw‘s dinners which are not boring but Margaret is still depressed. She is still not thrilled with Mr. Lennox. Mr. Bell is to visit and he has not been feeling well. There is more talk of Spain, Edith is again insensitive and self-centered. Margaret feels bad. Mr. Bell never shows up because he is dying. She travels to Oxford to find he has died and returns to London. Poor Margaret.

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sprainedbrain
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Stolen from JA Universe on the evil Facebook… but I laughed, #PemberLittens. 😂

lirahlu Cranford by Gaskell is really fun too. Wrote my Masters thesis using North and South, Cranford, and Mary Barton 2mo
zezeki I just saw this post after one my friends called me to say she just got engaged. 😂😂 2mo
MicrobeMom 😂😂 love this! 2mo
sprainedbrain @lirahlu I will make sure Cranford is on our list to vote next round! 😃 2mo
sprainedbrain @zezeki presumably your friend wants to get married. 😂 2mo
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter47NS Dixon returns with gossip from Milton. Fanny Thornton‘s wedding was too over the top. Edith mentions Mr. Bell wanting to take Margaret to Spain to visit Fred. Dixon is worried about being converted to a Catholic. Edith is annoying and self-centered making everything about her. Margaret wants Mr. Bell to visit Milton to explain all to John. Mr. Lennox visits often but there is nothing between him and Margaret.

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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter46NS Margaret and Mr. Bell travel to Helstone where she finds it much changed. Susan is now in school and the Vicar and his new wife are awful. They have made many changes to the house and to the school. Margaret is depressed and confesses her lie to the police to Mr. Bell. She wishes for him to tell John the truth. After a fitful night, she feels better for her confession. She turns down the vicar‘s invite for dinner.

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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter43NS Mr. Bell has it in his mind to visit Helstone. After a meeting with Henry Lennox in which Margaret learn there is no hope for a defense for Fred, Mr. Bell proposes they visit Helstone together. Margaret is very excited to do so and they secure permission from Mrs. Shaw.

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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter44NS Margaret is now at Harley St. Every night she is left alone and she is bored by the monotony of each day. Mr. Bell visits and finds out Fred was in Milton when Mrs. Hale died. Henry Lennox arrives and Mr. Bell senses tension between him and Margaret. When they both leave they talk of Mr. Hale and Lennox puts him down for leaving his position. Mr. Bell is not having it. Henry is very arrogant.

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MicrobeMom
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#pemberlittens #chapter43 It is decided that Margaret will return to London. Mr. Bell writes her a letter explaining her father‘s burial in Oxford, she will get an allowance from him, and Cpt. Lennox and John are there. Margaret goes about Milton saying goodbye to Mary, Mrs. Thornton who is now having tender feelings, John who stupidly does not profess his love again, and finally Higgins. Higgins is kind and she gives him Mr. Hale‘s bible.

Julsmarshall Every day it gets harder for me to not just finish the book. Anyone else? 3mo
Crinoline_Laphroaig @Julsmarshall I'm determined to stay the course. 3mo
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CrowCAH Giving the Bible was a nice touch. 3mo
LitStephanie @Julsmarshall I have usually been a couple of days behind, but when I catch up, I always want to keep reading! 2mo
MicrobeMom @Julsmarshall omg yes it has been hard! 2mo
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Daisey
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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I went ahead and finished this ahead of schedule because I kept losing track of the right chapter and my library borrow was expiring. Overall, it‘s a low pick for me. I just didn‘t get caught up enough in or care enough about any of the characters‘ stories and the ending felt abrupt. I can see that it had important things to say, but I just kept wanting something more.

#PemberLittens #audiobook #1001books

janeycanuck I haven‘t finished yet but am feeling very much the same. 3mo
Daisey @janeycanuck Yes, I was continually waiting to like the characters more and feel they had grown in a way that made me want them together. That never completely happened. 2mo
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MicrobeMom
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#pemberlittens #chapter42 NS I am so behind! So quickly, Margaret is too depressed to get off the couch. Mr. Bell loses his appetites, quickly regains it, and wants to take Margaret to Oxford. Mrs. Shaw doesn‘t want to travel to Milton, hates when she gets there, and displaces Mr. Bell at the Hale home. Mr. Thornton arrives and take Mr. Bell to his house. They discuss Frederick and John begins to realize a few things.

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LitStephanie
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Chapter 42. I love Mr. Bell, and I hate how the movie implies he wants to marry Margaret. This is a good Mr. Bell quote about how eating together makes people have a little more understanding of each other. If I could have you all over, I'd share my roasted eggplant and tomato soup with you. 🙂 #pemberlittens

Chrissyreadit Can you share the recipe? 3mo
LitStephanie @Chrissyreadit I wish I could, but I don't see it online, at least not yet. It is in the current print magazine Forks Over Knives i 3mo
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LitStephanie
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Chapter 38. Mrs. Thornton takes "a savage pleasure in the idea of speaking her mind" to Margaret, then is so undone by Margaret's thoughtful hospitality (so unlike Mrs. Thornton's hospitality the first time Margaret visited her) that "it became impossible to utter the speech so easy of arrangement with no one to address it to." We've all been there, Mrs. T! She draws up her meanness, though, and still manages to insult Margaret. #pemberlittens

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staci.reads
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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I ended up reading through to the end of this one today ahead of schedule. It's another one that I've meant to read for years but had never gotten to. Glad to have finally tackled it through our group read. #Pemberlittens

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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter41NS Mr. Hale has not been feeling well but goes to a Oxford to visit Mr. Bell. Margaret stays home and finds some time to grieve all that has happened in the last year. She is beginning to enjoy things again. While in Oxford, Mr.Bell says she will care for Margaret is Mr. Hale dies. The Mr. Hale dies in his sleep! Mr. Bell travels to Milton and sees Mr. Thornton. He tells hime the news and they discuss what will 👇👇

MicrobeMom happen to Margaret. Mr. Thornton is concerned. When Mr. Bell arrives, Margaret knows why. 😢 3mo
CrowCAH At this point I was like everyone keeps dying! It was too much. 3mo
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LitStephanie @CrowCAH yes, it is so sad. Poor Margaret! But everyone died young back then. Death was much more present in young peoples' lives than now, I think. 3mo
Julsmarshall Both of her parents died so young! Margaret has had such a sad life. (edited) 3mo
TheAromaofBooks @CrowCAH - I felt the same way! I could NOT believe that she killed off Margaret's dad as well! 3mo
CrowCAH @LitStephanie yeah perhaps death was more common. Still there‘s going to be one more death in the book. 3mo
CrowCAH @TheAromaofBooks I know, right?! Like let her have some “pleasant” time in her life, instead of all this grief. 3mo
TheAromaofBooks @CrowCAH - I didn't realize I was going to need a death sheet for this one like I did for Wuthering Heights! 😂 3mo
CrowCAH @TheAromaofBooks 😆 oh my, same! 3mo
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter40NS Mr. Bell visits and loves everything about Margaret. Mr. Thornton visits and is not in the mood to be friendly. He is unable to take a joke and has an intense discussion with Mr. Bell about manufacturing vs academia. He leaves vowing to see a little of Margaret as possible. Mr. Bell realizes John loves Margaret and tells Mr. Hale who denies it. Eventually he comes to, and Margaret confess all things Mr. Thornton.

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jenniferw88
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #chapter39NS Mrs. Boucher is dying and Mr. Higgins is taking care of the kids. Margaret visit both and learns that John did not hire Higgins. Just themN John walks in, and Margaret leaves. John admits he was wrong and offers Higgins work, which he will take. John catches up with Margaret and lets her know. He wants an explanation from Margaret but she refuses to protect Fred. They leave equally frustrated.

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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter36NS John is fretting about Margaret and her love for another man. Mrs. Thornton tells him that she knows about Margaret consorting with a man at the train station. They decide that she should visit and ewarn Margaret as that is what she promised Mrs. Hale. But Margaret is not having it and leaves Mrs. Thornton sitting in their parlor alone. Higgins begs John for work and is denied.

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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter37NS Margaret and Mr. Hale visit Higgins but he is not home. They visit Mrs. Boucher instead and she is mad at the world and only thinking of herself. The Hales return home where Margaret frets some more about Mr. Thornton when he does not visit again. Mr. Huggins visits saying he was looking for work all day to support the Boucher children. He blames himself for Boucher‘s death. After talking him out of being a 👇👇

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Bookwormjillk
North and South: Easyread Edition | Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell
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I decided I was too over scheduled reading wise to read this with the #PemberLittens only to have my work book club pick it!

Overall I liked it even though Margaret was a little too preachy and it ended abruptly. It kind of made me think that if LM Montgomery and Jane Austen wrote a book together this would have been the result. Scrapes and Prejudice or something like that.

CrowCAH Like your mashup! 3mo
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MicrobeMom
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter36NS Margaret and Mr. Hale visit Mr. Higgins who cannot find work because companies are making employees take an oath not to support the Union. Mr. Higgins blames Boucher for the unsuccessful strike and Margaret accuse Higgins of creating Boucher by forcing him into the union. Boucher is then found dead by self draining? Margaret must tell Mrs. Boucher and Higgins locks himself in his house.

Crinoline_Laphroaig Margaret's dad has got to be the WORST MINISTER EVER! Delivering bad news. Comforting people thats like Church 101. 3mo
CrowCAH Pointing fingers solves nothing. 3mo
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North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter35NS Margaret is an anxious mess about the cop who runs into Mr. Thornton. The cops tells him of the situation and John knows Margaret lied. But he looks over the evidence and has the inquest stopped. Margaret is first relieved than highly embarrassed and worried about what John thinks of her. A letter arrives telling her Fred made it in the boat. She didn‘t have to lie!

Julsmarshall This chapter kept surprising me! First ooh! And then ahh! And then wow! 3mo
CrowCAH Yes, she didn‘t have to lie. I just love how she‘s worried about what John thinks! ☺️ 3mo
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North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #chapter34NS a day late. Margaret and Mr. Hale are distraught about Mrs. Hale and Fred. Mr. Thornton visits and is very tender to both. Then Margaret get called away to answer a policeman‘s questions. Apparently, Leonards suffer internal bleeding from the scuffle with Fred. Margaret was recognized but she denies being there.

CrowCAH I know her denying that she was there added more internal conflict for her. But I wonder how it would have played out if she had admitted she was there. Anyway, it allowed for John to do a good deed and call off the inquisition. 3mo
Caitlin89 Ugh. I haven't read this yet but I LOVE the film!! 3mo
LitStephanie @CrowCAH I don't understand why she feels so bad about lying, even later on. If she had admitted being there, the next question would have been "who were you with?" Then she would have had to explain they were housing a fugitive. 3mo
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sprainedbrain
North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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I did it again… I was honestly just going to catch up this week‘s chapters for #PemberLittens, but it got too good for me to stop. 😬

Good heavens, this is a depressing book, isn‘t it?

My feelings about almost all of the characters kept changing, and it was often slow and very dry, but I ended up truly loving Margaret. Such lovely writing, further enhanced by the incredible Juliet Stevenson on audio.

Now I can finally watch the show!

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North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Chapter 33. Margaret dares to accompany a MAN to the train station as late as 6:30 PM! What a shameless hussy! Thornton thinks she might be sleeping around, what with the loose morals such a display insinuates, even as he is a little disappointed she isn't so completely falling apart over her mother's death that she might accept his huge impressive love for comfort. I laughed so hard at this scene even though the funeral is sad! #pemberlittens

LeahBergen 😆😆 3mo
sprainedbrain 😂😂😂 3mo
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North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Margaret accompanies Frederick to the train station, they are there early so they go for a walk and talk intimately.Mr Thornton sees them and thinks he is a love interest,realises how imperfect is Margaret cause she is out at night,he is angry,he still loves her,maybe he'll bring more fruit(?)
Leonards sees Frederick in the station but Frederick escapes.Margaret hears Leonards plans to follow him to London.
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LitStephanie Come back here and let me love you! Bahahaha! 3mo
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North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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Dixon makes the terrible mistake of saying hi to someone she hates,Leonards,the knives are flying and Leonards says he wants to hand Frederick over to the authorities.
They all decide Frederick has to leave,but when Margaret finds out he is in love she has another of her terrible plans:Fred should surrender and risk being hanged to try to clear his name .She convinces him to stop in London to talk with a lawyer and see his chances #Pemberlittens⬇️

nanuska_153 This is like when she told Mr Thornton to go to talk to the rioters if he is a real man, she keeps telling people the correct thing to do is something totally reckless and that it doesn't make any sense. Her father already told her that in these cases the defense doesn't matter and that if you are part of a mutiny you are hung, but she either forgot that conversation or again she thinks she knows best 3mo
LitStephanie That is actually a good point. She is so young and naive! 3mo
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North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter33NS The Hales prepare for Mrs. Hale‘s funeral. Mr. Bell cannot attend. So, Margaret will attend. Mr. Thornton offers there carriage and Margaret is angry he does not offer to attend. A letter lets her know that Fred made it to London, but Mr. Lennox is out of town. So he will delay his leave by a few days. The funeral is sad. Mr. Higgins attends and so does Mr. Thornton but Margaret does not see him.

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Bookwormjillk
North and South: Easyread Edition | Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell
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Trying to refurbish some furniture for porch reading while listening to the tagged book for my work book club.

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North and South | Elizabeth Gaskell
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#pemberlittens #Chapter32NS Everyone is still mourning Mrs. Hale including Margaret who finally gets to grieve. But it is time for Fred to leave for London. They arrange for him to take a 6:10 train. When he and Margaret get to the station the train is late by 20 mins. The station is creepy and quiet. Of course a Leonards shows up and grabs Fred. He escapes onto the train as the Leonards falls. Margaret is then anxious about being seen by him.

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