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The Women Could Fly: A Novel | Megan Giddings

so-so

Finished last Sunday & didn‘t take part in the #independentwomen #buddyread festivities. I may go back & look at the discussion questions but maybe not.🤷🏻‍♀️ I wanted to love this book but found myself slogging through it-the idea was there, but it didn‘t quite hook me & I spent much of it a bit confused. Given recent life events, I was also not in the mood for a too-close-to-today‘s-world & ultimately depressing book, so just a so-so from me.

Cinfhen, BarbaraBB

BarbaraBB I understand! The discussion was a good one but I didn‘t like the book much either. 3mo

Cinfhen This book was definitely a disappointment for many of us. I‘m sure life has been difficult without your loving Max - im so sorry, Deb xx 3mo

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The Women Could Fly: A Novel | Megan Giddings

pick

Finished up a little late for the #independentwomen buddy read from last weekend. This was not on my radar prior to this, though I did read her book Lakewood. I found the two titles similar: fascinating ideas but the execution left a bit to be desired. In this novel, some women are witches and to be accused of being a witch in America is a potentially deadly accusation. Entertaining audio, but left something to be desired. Low pick.

Hooked_on_books I completely agree! 3mo

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Kimberlone

The Women Could Fly: A Novel | Megan Giddings

Joining in late for #IndependentWomen! I unfortunately didn‘t get to reading the tagged book (Feb was a terrible reading month for me).

Posting a pic from my bachelorette party a couple weeks ago - I have to say, building a strong group of female friends has been such an important part of my late 20s and really value those relationships as I‘ve matured into my 30s.

I‘ve been continuously adding to my Girl Power playlist on Spotify for years:

Cinfhen, BarbaraBB

Kimberlone https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3FtL9uDXvjJ5n6uFz2K8L6?si=3w8JIfyHQzOErh7u5t4v... 3mo

Crazeedi Great looking group of ladies! 3mo

Reggie Love the purple hair! 3mo

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vivastory Looks like you had a great time! Congrats on the upcoming wedding 👏 3mo

ElizaMarie Congrats! Having a group of powerful women in your corner is so important! So happy for you :) Also, such a beautiful photo! 3mo

Bookzombie I love the shades of purple you are all rocking! 3mo

BarbaraBB Nothing beats a group of close friends! Happy for you! Thanks for sharing that awesome playlist!! 3mo

Cinfhen Congrats on your upcoming wedding 🎊love the photo and the playlist 💜 3mo

bthegood congrats on your upcoming wedding 💕 3mo

kspenmoll Congratulations! Women friends are the best! 3mo

TheBookHippie Congratulations!!! Love this pic!! 3mo

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The Women Could Fly: A Novel | Megan Giddings

Question 5 of 5. #IndependentWomen

Cinfhen

IndoorDame I thought the most interesting point she raised was about true choice and true freedom when she asked if you can really love someone when there‘s an underlying thread of coercion. It brings up ideas about the choices forced on people in today‘s world because of inequity. 3mo

Deblovestoread I took it as a warning to how easily we could go backwards. 3mo

Reggie @IndoorDame totally agree. I‘ve read two books about slavery where there was a “romance” between a slave and her owner and at the end of the day, he still owns her. I‘m not saying that‘s what happens here but it‘s relative. Wench by Dolen Perkins-Valdez and The Book of Night Women by Marlon James. I did really like Preston. 3mo

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TheBookHippie @Deblovestoread 💯💯💯 3mo

BarbaraBB Well said @IndoorDame I think that‘s what the book was meant to be about too. And @Reggie I liked Preston too. In fact I trusted him. Is that naive? 3mo

Soubhiville I agree with @IndoorDame . How can anyone be happy in a life that is forced on them? Be that a spouse, an unwanted pregnancy, a job that is chosen for you. Without freedom to choose our own lives can anyone be truly happy? 3mo

Soubhiville @Reggie I liked Preston too and felt like he was motivated by love and did truly want a marriage with Jo. But could she ever have accepted that? Like you said, even with some form of love there, control is still control. 3mo

Reggie @Soubhiville And he even says it himself in the end. Would she have loved him if she didn‘t need him as her chaperone. 3mo

Cinfhen @reggie @Soubhiville @BarbaraBB I thought Preston was a good guy and really loved Jo - he didn‘t seem to want to control her but Jo wasn‘t ready for marriage- 3mo

Reggie @BarbaraBb I don‘t think it‘s naive at all. He went out in a limb knowing all the stuff he‘d have to go through. 3mo

Cinfhen Great insight @IndoorDame @Deblovestoread 3mo

Deblovestoread I liked Preston, too. He felt genuine but I totally agree with @IndoorDame. Can you have true freedom if your choice is forced upon you? 3mo

Reggie That sometimes if your choices don‘t align with what men and society wants for you it can suck to be a woman in our world. And if you are a woman of color that becomes exponential. If I learned anything by reading You‘ll Never Guess What Happened to Lacey by Amber Ruffin is that racism isn‘t always the big thing, it can be a lot of small things everyday all the time. And it feels relentless. And I felt that this world was relentless for Josephine. 3mo

Deblovestoread @Reggie Agree 100%. The author did do a good job of showing the daily micro aggressions that are inflicted on women of color. 3mo

vlwelser I thought this was actually a hot mess. She almost had too many themes going. But I appreciate the effort. 3mo

Cinfhen Was just going to say that @Deblovestoread @Reggie the author was definitely making a point about the added difficulties women of color face and Jo was always explaining that to Angie & Preston & even her dad and his side of the family but they didn‘t seem to want to hear it 3mo

Bookzombie I agree I thought that most of this was about being completely free to make the choices you wanted in life. Who you marry or don‘t? Whether you have children or don‘t? Even whether you live on the island or not? 3mo

Bookzombie I love Preston too. I think he loves and truly cares for Jo. I think he is a bit naive about the world they live in. 3mo

Bookzombie @Reggie Yes! This world was relentless for Jo. 3mo

vonnie862 @Deblovestoread I saw it that way as well. We got a glimpse of going backward with Roe vs. Wade. 3mo

Reggie @Bookzombie you know what I loved in here is the little witch fairy tales. Like the one about the lover growing a garden for her love and which plant should she pick. And the answer was for the love to go back into the house and get her own seeds and plant her own plants. I found this book to be heavily whimsical if that makes sense. Like she put in a lot of thought to details that seems fun but had much larger things behind them. 3mo

DGRachel I think both @IndoorDame and @Deblovestoread cover the big themes. I also agree with the notes on how much harder it is on women of color. The whole thing felt very current and real to me, despite the magical elements. Oh, and I really liked Preston, too. He seemed like a genuinely good guy. 3mo

Chelsea.Poole Preston did seem good, and I‘m glad for the author‘s choice to make him likable, this allows the readers to see that even someone who treated her well and she enjoyed spending time with was not the situation she was able to live with, knowing these decisions were forced upon her. And when this happens, everyone is a victim, including Preston. Who would want a partner that‘s forced to be there? (edited) 3mo

Lauredhel There are a lot of messages in this book, & to a large extent the message is in the eye of the reader. For me it's a meditation on the whole “why didn't they just leave?“ attitude. Not only said of individual people in family violence situations, but of marginalised people living in hostile places - transphobic, racist, sexist, and so on. Yes there may be places which are less hostile - but those places aren't home, and your people aren't there. 3mo

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BarbaraBB

The Women Could Fly: A Novel | Megan Giddings

Question 4 of 5. #IndependentWomen

Cinfhen

IndoorDame No. I don‘t see her leaving home, safety or family unless something forced her to. 3mo

Deblovestoread I agree. I think she would want to but unable to actually follow through. 3mo

Cinfhen I felt like Angie would join Jo but maybe that was wishful thinking on my part @IndoorDame 💖 3mo

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IndoorDame @Cinfhen I like your vision better, I‘ll have to work harder on cultivating my inner optimist :) 3mo

Reggie I do. Especially if Josephine took her to see it and her marriage wasn‘t all that great. 3mo

Soubhiville In my head Angie went with her. 3mo

Cinfhen Right @Reggie I thought Angie would want to escape her arranged marriage and move to an island where she (Angie) would be free to live her life on her own terms 3mo

Cinfhen Yes, it was unclear whether Angie actually did join Jo @soubhiville but I liked the fact that Tiana had made a doll for Angie back in the day - 3mo

TheBookHippie Nope. I do not. 😅 3mo

vlwelser I feel like Angie was going to sort her own shit out. But going to a weird island didn't seem on brand for her. 3mo

Bookzombie The optimist is me hopes she did go with Jo, but I‘m not 100% sure. If she didn‘t go then, maybe she joins her later. 3mo

vonnie862 It would be nice to think that Angie went with Jo but my realistic side says no, at least not yet. 3mo

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The Women Could Fly: A Novel | Megan Giddings

Question 3 of 5. #IndependentWomen

Cinfhen

IndoorDame The compulsory marriage age felt like an especially real aspect to me. Sadly, I could envision a world where that comes to pass. 3mo

jenniferw88 Unfortunately, yes, especially with people like Trump around. 3mo

Deblovestoread Yes, some parts do feel plausible. The watching of women and if they don‘t conform labeling us as a problem. The registration and necessity to marry to be controlled. 3mo

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Reggie I don‘t think this is dystopian. I think she went the ol‘Margaret Atwood-I haven‘t written anything that hasn‘t happened in our world way of things. 3mo

squirrelbrain I agree @IndoorDame @jenniferw88 @Deblovestoread - there were some believable aspects relating to the control of women (and minorities). However many aspects weren‘t fully explained for me - what did men get out of marriage, for example? Why would Preston agree to be her guardian, with all the issues that could bring for him? 3mo

Soubhiville Absolutely this feels plausible, especially in the US. With rights being taken away already- abortion, freedom to marry, and closing national and state parklands… we are creeping ever closer. Best way to control the creative nature of women? Forced marriages seem like a good step. 3mo

Soubhiville @squirrelbrain I agree, it didn‘t feel well thought out or complete. 3mo

BarbaraBB To me it didn‘t sound plausible at all. Foremost because it‘s not clear to me what‘s the merit of women being married. Are they - when married - suddenly only obedient and without their own opinions? Again I‘d have to guess because I really think the author didn‘t create this world well enough. 3mo

TheBookHippie Yes as into control for the reason of control it was kinda a mess though… 😵‍💫 3mo

Reggie @BarbaraBb I think how easy would it be to get someone to do your bidding if all it takes was me for to just whisper-you‘re a witch. Don‘t wanna cook me dinner, don‘t wanna have sex with me tonight-I‘m picking up the phone and calling 1800-she‘s-a-witch. 3mo

Cinfhen I agree @BarbaraBB this book lacked context and cohesion - I do so how the author was trying to convey that rights of women & minorities are at risk and that is definitely terrifying and plausible @Soubhiville @Deblovestoread @TheBookHippie @Reggie 3mo

Cinfhen @Reggie hahaha 🤣 it‘s Salem all over again! 3mo

Reggie The part I think she missed out on here especially being about witches is religion. She could have made mention all the sexual abuse of children across all kinds of religion and how these are the same people still worried about women being witches. I liked all the little gun asides in here also. Like the questions for being a witch but nobody asks any questions before they sell a gun. She was so on point. (edited) 3mo

TheBookHippie @Reggie oh I agree 💯💯💯. 3mo

BarbaraBB @Reggie I see but I can‘t see why anyone would want to do so. Of course it would happen, but would it be an ever present threat? Again I can‘t believe so because the authors didn‘t make it plausible because she didn‘t invest in creating a believable atmosphere of fear and betrayal. To me it all felt so rushed, I had to believe what was told without being able to decide for myself 🤷🏻‍♀️ 3mo

vlwelser Treating women like second class citizens? Definitely. Flying? Maybe not. 3mo

Bookzombie I found this plausible. Not the aspect of magic, but that people in power can turn the tide and make things happen that I would think would be impossible. I agree with @Soubhiville about how forced marriage would be a step to control the creative nature of women. A way to start turning us back into chattel. Women have always had opinions but in societies where we have no rights opinions become more life threatening. 3mo

vonnie862 The notion of controlling women...yes. The magical stuff, no. 3mo

DGRachel It all felt very plausible to me. Women‘s access to healthcare is already being heavily restricted. Several states are enacting draconian anti-LGBTQIA+ legislation…we‘re so nearly there. 3mo

Cinfhen It‘s frightening to think that @DGRachel yet in some ways we are inching closer into the NO FUCKING WAY territory!!!!! 3mo

BarbaraBB @Bookzombie @DGRachel @Cinfhen It is probably because I am not in the US but I don‘t have this feeling at all - regarding women. The world is polarizing and I am not optimistic about our future but I don‘t feel the pressure on women as much as you do I think. 3mo

Cinfhen Absolutely @BarbaraBB BAD legal decisions are being made in the US right now 😢 3mo

DGRachel @BarbaraBB Yes, it probably makes a big difference being somewhere else. Like @Cinfhen noted, there are really bad legal decisions being made in the US. It‘s insane. I never thought this would happen here. 3mo

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The Women Could Fly: A Novel | Megan Giddings

Question 2 of 5 #IndependentWomen

Cinfhen

jenniferw88 I loved the Island! I would definitely have stayed there and not returned, but a huge part of that is to do with my sexuality (homoflexible). Life in the dystopian world was way too strict for me - I don't want (& it's very possible I won't be able to have) children. 3mo

jenniferw88 Also, I would have been annoyed with all the paperwork - it's bad and hard enough in the real world when we've tried to apply for the disability benefits for me. 3mo

Deblovestoread I am not sure how I feel about it. A menstrauting sky would be off putting. 3mo

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Amiable @Deblovestoread I‘m with you on that one! 😬 3mo

squirrelbrain No - I didn‘t want to inhabit either world! The island still felt like a stressful place to me. 3mo

Soubhiville I can see the appeal of the freedom and artistic creative side of the island. I think I could be happy in a place like that, but wouldn‘t disappear without explanation to my loved ones. (edited) 3mo

Soubhiville I liked the witchiness and the cooperation of figuring out and writing spells together. 3mo

Cinfhen Haha 😂 @Deblovestoread that was pretty gross 🤮 I also did not feel drawn or compelled to live on that island @squirrelbrain but I can appreciate where you‘re coming from @jenniferw88 and see how an island of all women working together and free to be could be comforting 3mo

Reggie I loved the island. I loved that they were free to create without the expectation of monetization. That they were a community in the best sense of the word. That none of the women were homeless. Like they all said hey, let‘s get you a shed and went about it. 3mo

BarbaraBB It could be, I agree @Cinfhen. And I see its possibilities @jenniferw88 when it would have been described a bit realistic. But in the story it appeared to be a rather boring place where nothing much happened. 3mo

TheBookHippie No none of it but I‘m crabby this book 😵‍💫🤮🤐🤫 3mo

vlwelser 😂 no. Not a chance. City girl all the way. The thought of being in the woods with no proper wifi, electricity, plumbing, etc gives me hives. 3mo

vlwelser @TheBookHippie you don't want to be stuck on a remote island in your beloved rural Michigan? Inconceivable. 3mo

TheBookHippie @vlwelser with my narcissistic verbally abusive mother ? No. 🤮😵‍💫 3mo

vlwelser @TheBookHippie double barf. I didn't think of that. 3mo

TheBookHippie @vlwelser dented book donated to teachers lounge with warning note on it … 👀🤣 3mo

vlwelser @TheBookHippie mine just calmly went back to the library to lie in wait for the next unsuspecting individual. 3mo

Bookzombie I loved aspects of the island, but I guess I will say what I told my husband. “If the world changes and I have to be managed and “protected” by you to exist. Then I‘m done.” And I don‘t mean I will go live on island. Also, this is no comment on my husband, who is wonderful. I just don‘t want to live in that situation. Sorry, I got dark. 3mo

Cinfhen Hahaha 🤣 @Bookzombie AGREED!!! I can tell you right now - my hubby would NEVER want that type of responsibility - he‘d rather be a confirmed bachelor and have me flying around casting spells 🪄 3mo

Cinfhen My copy went to the charity bookshop @vlwelser @TheBookHippie and apparently it sold the very day I brought it in!! Im glad the book found a new home 🧙🧙‍♀️🧹 3mo

vonnie862 I was a little confused with the world setting of this book. At first I thought the notion of witches and magic was made up in order to control women... but then we get to the island. The island sounded enchanting and “safe.“ It was a place to fully express one self without the concern of being burned to death. If I had to live in a world where I HAD to get married by certain age or be deemed a witch, I can see how the island would be appealing. 3mo

TheBookHippie @Cinfhen Ha it sold 🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼also Mr Book Hippie would NEVER take the job either 😵‍💫🤣 3mo

Bookzombie @Cinfhen That would be my husband too. It would beat him down to have to do that. 3mo

TheBookHippie @Bookzombie 💯💯💯👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 3mo

Cinfhen My hubby doesn‘t have the mental strength to “control” me @TheBookHippie @Bookzombie he lacks the patience or fortitude 😂😂😂 😉 3mo

Cinfhen That‘s a good point @vonnie862 !!! 3mo

TheBookHippie @Cinfhen mine doesn‘t have the stamina 🤣🤣🤣 in our fourth decade he would be here have her let her do her witchy things oh wait … 👀 3mo

Cinfhen Yup!!! @TheBookHippie EXACTLY 3mo

IndoorDame @TheBookHippie you‘re so right! No electricity and a narcissist parent. 😩😤That definitely takes the shine off any sweet artist community vibe it might have had! 3mo

BarbaraBB @TheBookHippie @IndoorDame Exactly! It doesn‘t really sound like a sweet artist community 🤣 3mo

DGRachel I like the idea of the island - a place where women help each other and work together, but I couldn‘t live there. Like @vlwelser I am a city girl through and through. And like @Bookzombie I wouldn‘t want to live in a society that necessitates an island like that as a safe space. I think that‘s what hit me - it feels like we‘re so close to that kind of a society as reality and it terrifies and angers me. 3mo

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The Women Could Fly: A Novel | Megan Giddings

Welcome to our #IndependentWomen #bigbuddyread discussion!

We came up with 5 questions which I will post on this page. I‘m tagging everyone now, please return to this page for the other 4 questions!

Afterwards Cindy and I will get back to you!

Cinfhen

BarbaraBB
@LapReader @vlwelser @DebinHawaii @TheLudicReader @Bookwormjillk @TrishB @DGRachel @Deblovestoread @Jenniferw88 @MoonWitch94 @erzascarletbookgasm @zezeki @squirrelbrain @Megabooks 3mo

BarbaraBB @vonnie862 @Aimeesue @Librarybelle @Chelsea.Poole @BookwormAHN @Kimberlone @KarenUK @Gissy @Addison_Reads @LeahBergen @julieclair @Sparklemn 3mo

BarbaraBB @AllDeBooks @Bookzombie @Reggie @IndoorDame @Amiable @TheBookHippie @Gissy @Vansa @Soubhiville @Chrissiereadit 3mo

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BarbaraBB @BarbaraTheBibliophage @Amandajoy @CBee @Amabear @Rissreads @BookBosomed1 @TheKidUpstairs @ImperfectCJ 3mo

Deblovestoread What a contradiction her mother turned out to be. And no, I don‘t agree with her choices. Just disappearing without a word, especially at Jo‘s early teenage years, and in the world they were living. I get needing to not get lost in the roles of wife and mother but her decision was beyond reprehensible in my book. 3mo

Bookwormjillk I don‘t agree with it, but I guess I can understand it. What I didn‘t agree with or understand was her expectation that she could take over as mom again 10+ years later. 3mo

Cinfhen That‘s a great adjective for Jo‘s mom @Deblovestoread contradiction - she was all for asserting independence but still wanted / expected Jo to follow in her footsteps - I thought she was pretty selfish in both “worlds” 3mo

squirrelbrain I agree @Cinfhen - was just about to post that I found her very selfish. If she had been compelled to a different life that may have been more understandable but it seemed to be a choice that she had freely undertaken. 3mo

jenniferw88 I can understand it, and I think I agree with her choice. BUT maybe she could have left a letter for Tiana to open when she became an adult, explaining what she'd done and how to get to the island if she wanted to go/felt able to go. 3mo

Soubhiville I don‘t agree with it either. While I understand being unhappy in that political climate, disappearing without a trace and abandoning her family seems selfish to me. Then returning, even more so. 3mo

BarbaraBB I‘m with most of you. It is so selfish and to me, it didn‘t make sense why and how she could get to the island. Did she have connections? I didn‘t get it. 3mo

TheBookHippie I don‘t but 🤷🏻‍♀️ I think she was a narcissist 👀😵‍💫😅 3mo

Deblovestoread Mom was raising her to conform to the laws of the state and encouraging her to ignore any possible “witch” traits. Was that to appease the dad? And then in order for Jo to get to the island she needed a doll that she randomly found among a bunch of boxes? 3mo

Cinfhen Yeah, I thought there were too many unexplained variables in the story that didn‘t make sense or weren‘t properly explained @deblovestoread the mom was 💯 a narcissist @thebookhippie 3mo

Reggie I love how she left the whole mother daughter thing open and unresolved because I don‘t think there is a good answer for any of it. But I can see why she would feel she had to do it. What if she gets so unhappy she starts self harming or turning that on Jo and the husband and makes them miserable. Idk. I loved and was horrified by all the after details. The Unsolved Mysteries episode. And how every time she mentions high school, there is a 👇🏼 3mo

Reggie new way in which the kids made her miserable, like when the kid steps on her toe and says”Don‘t curse me, bro.” (edited) 3mo

TheBookHippie @Cinfhen Such a hot mess 🤣 3mo

Deblovestoread Her mom did seem pretty cold in the flashbacks of her younger years…maybe on purpose for the eventual leaving? But I can‘t get on board with abandonment regardless of the reasons. 3mo

Cinfhen I was also disturbed by the dad who just gave up on Jo - that was pretty disheartening @Deblovestoread @Soubhiville @Bookwormjillk 3mo

vlwelser @TheBookHippie 💯 3mo

Deblovestoread @Cinfhen agreed. Both of her parents let her down. 3mo

Bookwormjillk @Cinfhen yes he was just as guilty for letting her down 3mo

vlwelser The mom was a hot mess. She disappears, makes a mess of things on the island, basically drags her daughter there without an explanation, then gets mad when the daughter doesn't do everything her way. Gross. 3mo

TheBookHippie @vlwelser 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼narcissist … 3mo

Cinfhen @vlwelser I agree, I found her ( the mom‘s) actions in the past & present unforgivable 3mo

Bookzombie I had a hard time with the mom. I understand she wasn‘t happy to be married and living in that world, but leaving her daughter with no word was selfish and abusive. Her decision to leave impacted Jo in so many ways, even when you take away how it marked her as “other” even more. Then when Jo goes to the island and her mom just expects her to stay and won‘t ever really discuss her leaving, it‘s selfish all over again. 3mo

Bookzombie Also, she left a will with the instructions about the island, did she think they wouldn‘t wait as long as they did to declare her dead? Legally, I think you to wait a number of years anyway, so it wasn‘t like Jo would have been able to come to the island soon. 3mo

jenniferw88 @Bookzombie 100% agree with this, and, as a child, Tiana probably wouldn't have been able to leave on her own anyway. And it's not like her Dad would have been able to take her and I don't think any of her female relatives would have. I don't think Angie's Mum would have taken her either, as she wants a normal life(?!) for Angie and doesn't approve (or know of) of her sexuality. 3mo

vonnie862 I have to agree with many of you. I understand why Jo's mom did what she did, but I don't agree with it. I think she should have taken the time to say goodbye to Jo and her husband, or at least left a letter. Her disappearance was a huge impact on them and other people (i.e. Unsolved Mysteries). 3mo

Chelsea.Poole I agree—I always try to put myself in the character‘s shoes and I don‘t believe I would have made the same choices. She seemed callous. 3mo

DGRachel I‘m super late to the party but I agree with what‘s already been said. I do not agree with what her mom did at all. It was cruel and then to expect Jo to be “oh, yay! Awesome island, I totally get why you left. Let‘s be besties”…No. 3mo

Cinfhen The whole character of Tiana didn‘t add up @DGRachel @Chelsea.Poole @vonnie862 I wonder if the author had some personal issues with her mom she was working through ??? 3mo

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Untitled | Anonymous

This is just a small group of the women I admire:
Dolly Parton, Maya Angelou, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Shirley Chisholm, Michelle Obama, Taylor Swift, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Fannie Lou Hamer. #independentwomen

Cinfhen, BarbaraBB

Cinfhen 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 3mo

Bookzombie @Cinfhen 🙂 3mo

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BarbaraBB Admirable women indeed 🫶🏽 3mo

Bookzombie @IndoorDame @BarbaraBB 💗 3mo

kbibliophilific Fabulous women indeed 3mo

Reggie I had no idea who Fannie Lou Hamer was. Nice list! 3mo

Bookzombie @kbibliophilific Thanks! 3mo

Bookzombie @Reggie Thanks! Hamer was such a strong woman. I‘m not sure where I first heard about her. There was a recent biography out but I haven‘t read it yet. 3mo

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Bookzombie

Miss Independent: A Simple 12-Step Plan to Start Investing and Grow Your Own Wealth | Nicole Lapin

I‘m late to the party but definitely wanted to participate. I started this list years ago because of my irritation with current bro-country music and their lack of playing many of the women on the radio. However, the list has evolved to be multi-genre and currently has over 400 songs. 😁

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/44UjwH5Jx5bhSgVUVxTInI?si=Yi9lkxfTSYyCwk7gL2Sg...

#independentwomen

Cinfhen, BarbaraBB

Cinfhen Whoa!!! This should make for an awesome companion on my 14 hour flight this Tuesday!! 3mo

Cinfhen Im sooooo happy to hear Linda Ronstadt 🫶🏼 3mo

BarbaraBB That is a great list!! 3mo

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Bookzombie @Cinfhen This list has you covered, lol. Linda Ronstadt is great! 3mo

Bookzombie @BarbaraBB Thank you! 3mo

Reggie Holy wow that‘s a lot of songs, Margie! I love that you have Shakira and Selena on here. And Heart‘s All I wanna do is make love to you! Have you ever seen the video to that song? Where the woman picks up that cute hitchhiker in the rain. They have a one night stand and she leaves him early the next morning. Years later she comes back through with a husband and a BABY with the eyes of the guy she left who is now running the same motel. Very drama. 3mo

squirrelbrain I ❤️❤️❤️ that Heart track (and the video @Reggie )! 3mo

Bookzombie @Reggie Yes! I love that song and absolutely remember the video. I didn‘t realize it was such a long list. I just randomly add to it. I love Selena and Shakira and they probably should have more songs on the list. You know how we all have those deaths that we remember exactly where we heard about it. Selena is one of those for me. I was at a UIL competition in high school and it was the day after my birthday. 3mo

Bookzombie @squirrelbrain It‘s so good! 3mo

Reggie @squirrelbrain 🎵 all I left him was a note, it said‘I am a flower, you are the sea, we walked in the garden, we planted a tree,‘ don‘t try to find me, please don‘t try to find me, please don‘t you dare, just look in my memory, you‘ll always be there!🎵 Lolol love it! 3mo

Reggie Was the competition for band? Also, my mom was a principal at the time and I was in her office with her when my grandma called to tell us the news. 3mo

Bookzombie @Reggie No, I didn‘t do band in high school. I hated marching and my huge bass clarinet that I got pushed in to playing. Lol. I really wish I picked percussion in sixth grade but at the time it seemed for the boys. Wow, was she your principle then? No pressure. 🙂 3mo

Reggie No, I was in high school at the time and she was an elementary principal. For most of my years at home she was a teacher. Her and my dad were both teachers. He worked the oil fields when I was young but after getting laid off like 4 times he went back and got a teaching degree. In the 90s he was one of the first teachers to have his kids have an e-mail address. He also let them have a camera during recess and at the end of the year he would put 3mo

Reggie all the pics to music on a power point on a cd and give it to them at the end of the year. And he would tell the parents how they could see it at the library if they didn‘t have computers at home. He was technology forward. Lol 3mo

Bookzombie Aww, that‘s great! I‘m sure they were both great teachers. I‘m assuming they are retired based on previous info. While the world always needs great teachers, I‘m happy they aren‘t having to deal with some of the stuff happening these days. 3mo

batsy Wow, amazing. I look forward to checking it out. 3mo

Bookzombie @batsy Thank you! 🙂 3mo

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