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NeuroTribes
NeuroTribes: The Legacy of Autism and How to Think Smarter About People Who Think Differently | Steve Silberman
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BookishShelly
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This book is excellent. It could have been trimmed down a bit, but that‘s true of most books IMO. 5⭐️
#nonfiction

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Aimeesue
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#audiowalking
#autism

Job related reading, so I‘m totally working right now, right? 😄

julesG Of course! 2mo
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LittlePixels
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There are many good aspects of our culture being more accepting of "neurodiversity", but as the mom of special needs kids, one with autism, I'm going to have a very unpopular opinion here. Books like this piss me off. I guess more specifically they make me sad, and feel like I'm not seen. My kid's autism isn't good, or cute, or fun. Talking about Daryl Hannah or Jerry Seinfeld being autistic...really? (Continued in comments...)

LittlePixels In my world, being autistic doesn't look like a successful actor, or even someone who can ever live independently. It looks like screaming fits, speech difficulties, sign language, anxiety, aggressive outbursts against family members...did I mention the screaming? So much screaming. It isn't charming, and it isn't good for siblings to have to deal with. Yes, there are good moments, and yes we all love each other. 4mo
LittlePixels But whitewashing the bad aspects invalidates those of us who deal with the downside of autism on a daily basis. :( 4mo
rretzler 🤗 4mo
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LittlePixels @rretzler Thanks ❤️ 4mo
Bookwomble 💖 2mo
LittlePixels @Bookwomble Thanks 💕 2mo
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LindseysLibrary
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This book was so excellent, but quite long, and sadly my library insisted I return it before I got to finish it, haha. That said, it was AMAZING to read the backstory of why we have the ideas about autism that we do: all the stigmas, the stereotypes, and even a possible explanation for why there are so many parents who believe they themselves can do something to help their child‘s “condition.” I hope I get a chance to finish it someday!

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Bianca
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THIS

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Bianca
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Trying a new book tonight.

I would always rather be reading than at a party.

Crazeedi Me too!!! 8mo
Reviewsbylola I‘ve read about 1/3 of this. 8mo
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taraWritesSci
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1. Yes!
2. 60/40 - more fiction
3. Science
4. Neurotribes by Steve Silberman
5. I Contain Multitudes: The Microbes Within Us and a Grander View of Life by Ed Yong

@wanderinglynn

wanderinglynn Thanks for playing! 😀 11mo
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kgriffith
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We need to do better at interrogating media that misrepresents autistic folks, stop hero-worshipping the “autism mom,” and demand that publishers and film/TV production companies prioritize works by autistic writers if they want to cash in on autistic main characters. Tagged an “autistic-approved” work I‘ve been reading for a while. Quote in the pic is from https://aeon.co/essays/the-autistic-view-of-the-world-is-not-the-neurotypical-cl...

Emilymdxn I loved the tagged book so much! It opened my eyes and deepened my understanding of these issues a lot - I knew the issue was important before but hadn‘t read much or thought about it in depth. I‘ve been recommending it to everyone I know 12mo
kgriffith @Emilymdxn a former partner, who is an academic and knows their shit around research, said Silberman is the only NT they‘d trust to tell this story properly. That was good enough for me. 12mo
Broke_Girl_Reads The shade in the last line of this quote is legendary 😂 this book has been on my tbr for ages, I need to pick it up! 12mo
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kgriffith @Broke_Girl_Reads isn‘t it great? The whole piece is just a string of zingers and perfectly articulated truths. 12mo
LindseysLibrary My library insisted I return the book before I finished it, but I got about 3/4ths of the way through, and I totally agree with everything you say in your post. Thanks for sharing! 7mo
kgriffith @LindseysLibrary good luck getting it again to finish! I‘ve been away from it for a while but it‘s one I just pick up for a bit here and there; it‘s too emotionally charged for me to stick to for long 😬 7mo
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Emilymdxn
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I‘m so glad I read this book! It made me think I should read more by autistic people about their lives and experiences which I will make sure I bear in mind next time I can afford to buy books. Harrowing sometimes, hilarious sometimes, really made me laugh at myself as a non-autistic person sometimes which I loved so much. Really recommend!

rwmg Have you read this by a 13 year old Japanese autistic boy? 1y
Emilymdxn @rwmg oh that‘s just what I‘m looking for! Thank you! 1y
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Emilymdxn
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I‘m so happy I‘ve finally got round to this book! I like to think of myself as a progressive, inclusive person but I‘ve been realising recently how my reading history does NOT reflect that and I need to work harder. Can‘t believe this is my first ever book about autism! It‘s so interesting so far, well researched but comprehensible for a non scientist. Really recommend so far particularly if you‘ve never read about autism like me!

Aimeesue Due to my job, I know a lot of people who are on the spectrum. It's amazing - it's a whole different way of thinking and structuring the world. I've learned a whole lot from people who see things differently. ❤️ 1y
Emilymdxn @Aimeesue I‘ve just started working in education support and access and understanding more about what students might have going on in their lives is so important to me - there‘s so much to read about it and so many books on every issue that I have no idea how to even approach it but I guess trying is most important 1y
Aimeesue @Emilymdxn I‘ll give you a super important tip: you‘re going to come across people who have so - called “challenging behaviors,” meaning they do things that are socially frowned upon in larger society. Sometimes those behaviors need to be mitigated. Self- injury or aggression towards others, for example. ALWAYS ask yourself “What is this person trying to communicate here?” Or “What need is this fulfilling?” Try to see things from their point of … 1y
Aimeesue …view. You can solve a lot of “problems” that way. As a reader, you‘re one step ahead of a lot of people in that regard - we‘re good at looking at things from different viewpoints! 1y
Reviewsbylola I‘ve read 1/3 of this but needed to take a break. I hope to eventually get back to it! 1y
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Christine
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I found this to be well-written and impressively researched. The historical data was intense and extensive, and overall the book is heavier on the “legacy of autism” part of the subtitle and lighter on the “future of neurodiversity.” As a mom of an autistic son and having my own point of view re: what matters, I wanted more about neurodiversity, but that‘s just my preference, not an indictment of the book at all, which was well worth the listen.

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Well-ReadNeck
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Mehso-so

Eh. Very detailed history (with extensive notes) on the history of autism. Concentrating on those who studied the condition and two long chapters on the DSM and, yes, rain man. Picked this up after it was repeatedly mentioned on Laura James‘ great memoir, Odd Girl Out. This was way too academic and had too few case studies for my taste.

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tysephine
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What an amazing look into the history of autism! Highly recommended.

TW for abuse of/ unethical medical experimentation on children. Nazis were awful, we know this. But their treatment of disabled children was beyond evil on a level I couldn't have imagined.

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tysephine
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Started a new audiobook on my way home! Has anyone read this one? It's interesting so far.

Cinfhen No, but I love the cover 🦋🦋🦋🦋 1y
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kgriffith
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“The beginning of autonomy is being able to communicate ‘yes‘ and ‘no.‘”
So simple, and yet... #autismawareness #autismacceptance #redinstead #audiobooks

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kgriffith

Testing tagging when you know the person‘s whole username @raimeygallant okay, this is a workaround but until we address tagging wonkiness here‘s how I did it: type @ NAME then go back and delete the space, X out of the pop up at the top right, then tap after NAME, X out of the pop up again, hit space and type on. NOT elegant, but it works, and I‘ll pass this along; thanks, Raimey!

RaimeyGallant Thanks. :) Just tried it with @maggie but it didn't work...maybe because I'm on ios? 1y
kgriffith Hm, nope, me too. I‘ll try her. 1y
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kgriffith
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Yep, time to quit. 🤬🤬🤬 #redinstead #autismacceptance #autismawareness

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kgriffith
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This book is breaking my heart as it further educates me. Not that I didn‘t expect it. #autismacceptance #redinstead #autismawareness

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kgriffith
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This book strikes exactly the tone I was imagining when I decided I needed to go back to school so :I: could write a book. And with this bit that echoes my personal lending-library dreams, I‘m having all the feelings, don‘t mind me. #autismacceptance #redinstead #autismawareness

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kgriffith
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“By sharing the stories of their lives, they discovered that many of the challenges they face daily are not ‘symptoms‘ of their autism, but hardships imposed by a society that refuses to make basic accommodations for people with cognitive disabilities as it does for people with physical disabilities such as blindness and deafness.” #autismawareness #redinstead #autismacceptance #neuroqueer

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kgriffith
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Lunch listen: Audible daily deal, $5.95 today. It‘s a tome, ~500 oversized paperback pages, but I‘ve read a bit here and there since I bought it several months ago at the recommendation of an autistic person who said that reading this made them feel incredibly seen. I know some of it will be hard to read, but it‘s important to me personally not to avoid the hard stuff: autistic folks don‘t get to. #autismawareness #redinstead #audiobooks

Emilymdxn I just bought the audiobook of this too! Excited to read it 1y
Christine I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this one...as a mom of a 13 year old with autism, I really need to read it but have been putting it off for (conscious and unconscious, I‘m sure) reasons. Hearing that it made your friend feel seen is huge motivator to finally get to it, though - thanks! 1y
kgriffith @Emilymdxn I think it‘s going to be a much faster listen than a read. 1y
kgriffith @Christine I‘m so glad it helped with that motivation. I have autistic folks in my life in a few different capacities and am neuroqueer myself, so when they held this up as a must, I knew it was indeed that for me. 1y
Christine ❤️ 1y
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MatchlessMarie
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Bourriquet76 The Red Tent is one of my top 5 books ever. 1y
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kgriffith
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Neuroqueers, what are your recs for fiction by autistic folks, whether they center autism, discuss it tangentially, or not at all? How about non-fic about autism and neurodiversity? Tagging Neurotribes as a rec from an autistic person who said Silberman is the only NT they trust to speak for them. I really want to combat this "parent narrative as the voice of autism" bullshit that is so pervasive in books and television, especially of late.

keggergoldy 💗📚 2y
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kendrastephaniekaryn
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#allthebooksof2017 #longestbookyouread

Weighing in at just under 500 pages, this was the chunkiest book I read this year. It was also one of my favourites, and I recommend it to any fellow #teachersoflitsy (whether you work in SPED or not!)

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clbeattie123
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Well with my day being cancelled due to Storm Ophelia I am currently reading Neurotribes- I work with kids with Autism every week and I have heard this is essential reading for anyone who wants to expand their knowledge on it!

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msflewell
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Awesome book. Helpful in understanding Autism and other neurological issues. Fabulous.

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thebookmagpie
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Read in August (hi Litsy! It's been a while!)

Centique Wow you've read heaps! I'm looking forward to that one. 2y
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MelanieMefford
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Anyone in San Diego going to The San Diego Festival of Books? It's the first one and I'm very excited!

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LubicaP
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A useful overview of how the medical profession has viewed autism in the past century. Silberman shows that the perception that there's an autism epidemic is inaccurate - more people are diagnosed because there's more awareness about autism. Also good history of parents' activism and cultural perceptions of autism. Best of all, it's really well written - a genuine page-turner, even though it's over 500 pages long.

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LubicaP
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One way to understand neurodiversity is to think in terms of human operating systems instead of diagnostic labels like dyslexia and ADHD

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LubicaP

Neurotypical syndrome is a neurobiological disorder characterized by preoccupation with social concerns, delusions of superiority, and obsession with conformity. [...] There is no known cure.

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LubicaP

[The boy] was perturbed by the fact that each sheet of paper for recording patient histories had Johns Hopkins Hospital printed at the top. Didn't the doctors know where they were?

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jdtchicago

One of the most promising developments since the publication of “The Geek Syndrome” has been the emergence of the concept of neurodiversity: the notion that conditions like autism, dyslexia, and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder should be regarded as naturally occurring cognitive variations with distinctive strengths that have contributed to the evolution of technology and culture rather than mere checklists of deficits and dysfunctions.

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jdtchicago

When I think back upon the kids that I tried to treat back in the 1960s, who were so extremely self-injurious, I think, “Boy, they were tough!” What they were really saying is, “You haven‘t taught me right, you haven‘t given me the tools whereby I can communicate and control my environment.” So the aggression that these kids show, whether it is directed toward themselves or others, is an expression of society‘s ignorance...

Prairiegirl_reading I need to read this book! I was just thinking about yesterday and now you've put over the edge. 🙂 2y
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jdtchicago

Researchers would eventually discover that autistic people stim to reduce anxiety—and also simply because it feels good. In fact, harmless forms of self-stimulation (like flapping and fidgeting) may facilitate learning by freeing up executive-functioning resources in the brain that would otherwise be devoted to suppressing them.

Leniverse I wonder if this goes for non-autistic people too. Like every school child who is being told to stop fidgeting and pay attention, would it be better to hand them a fidget cube? 2y
tpixie @Leniverse exactly! Or sit on those exercise balls. Doodling, fidgeting can help with focus for some. 2y
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kendrastephaniekaryn
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This is a sign of a book well enjoyed! Since I read this for work, I flagged all of the passages which I think will be useful for the general ed teachers and parents I work with. I learned a TON about the history of not only autism, but diverse mental and physical illnesses as well. Highly recommend! #teachersoflitsy

ElenaBaer Thank you! Always looking for ways to deepen my understanding of kids. ❤️👍🏻 2y
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kendrastephaniekaryn
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Two more days of the school year and I've given up on being productive while I'm here. #workreading #teachersoflitsy #currentview

MrBook Nice pic! 2y
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kendrastephaniekaryn
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#litsypartyofone, day 3.

It's a gorgeous day already, so I'm working on my tan and continuing on with this book. Learning lots about the history of the ASD diagnosis so far! #teachersoflitsy #mugsoflitsy

LitLogophile Aries! 🙋🏻😀 2y
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kendrastephaniekaryn
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I'm joining the party pretty late (7:30pm here), but I'm still excited to jump in. Spending my evening reading, taking notes and watching #carnivaleats. #litsypartyofone

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MelanieMefford
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Next up! So interesting.

Reviewsbylola I just ordered this! 2y
MelanieMefford it's so good! 2y
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kendrastephaniekaryn
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Coffee at 6pm on a Thursday? Such is the life of a teacher in June. I'm working on the 500 page monster in preparation for my new position! #teachersoflitsy

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kendrastephaniekaryn
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Book mail! These are all for my summer reading before I start my new job. #teachersoflitsy #specialeducation #bookoutlet #bookhaul

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Nitpickyabouttrains
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This book was about more then just neurodiversity and the way we talk about it. It went deep into the history of diagnosis for autism and how that has changed the way the world views neurodiverse individuals. I thought it was very well done, interesting, and thought provoking.

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LitDrivenGirl
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My review is up on Goodreads. I couldn't post here because I got a "little" long winded ??. I highly recommend everyone read this book. It is amazing! #neurodiversity #autism #beYou #awesome #bookreview
review link: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1769325416

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saguarosally
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I'm wondering how psychiatry during WWII, German history, and the history of autism and Asperger's syndrome all come together. I'll keep listening. #autism #wwii

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jdtchicago

Aware adults with autism and their parents are often angry about autism. They may ask why nature or God created such horrible conditions as autism, manic depression, and schizophrenia...It is possible that persons with bits of these traits are more creative, or possibly even geniuses. If science eliminated these genes, maybe the whole world would be taken over by accountants.

Gina I concur! 3y
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bathtubbooks
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#readingchallenge2016 completed! I had a solid reading year. I read more fantasy, westerns, and graphic novels than usual. Also a significant percentage of #homeschooling books. Neurotribes was the standout this year. #100books I'm ready for more!!

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Dvmheather
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Wait, what? Geeklife is considered pathetic? That's absurd. LOL

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Dvmheather
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That would be crazy-making.

KCorter What a monster. 3y
estellasrevenge Homicide-inducing. 3y
LisaJo SMH 3y
Dvmheather I agree! 3y
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lilycobalt

I'm having trouble reading this book. On the one hand, I need to know my own history to better inform my existence in this world. On the other hand, it's hard to read about autistic people being institutionalized and murdered. How lucky I am, not only to be alive right now, but to live independently. 😢