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Why Im No Longer Talking to White People About Race
Why Im No Longer Talking to White People About Race | Reni Eddo-Lodge
'This is a book that was begging to be written. This is the kind of book that demands a future where we'll no longer need such a book. Essential' Marlon James, Man Booker Prize-Winner 2015 'One of the most important books of 2017' Nikesh Shukla, editor of The Good Immigrant A powerful and provocative argument on the role that race and racism play in modern Britain, by award-winning journalist Reni Eddo-Lodge In 2014, award-winning journalist Reni Eddo-Lodge wrote about her frustration with the way that discussions of race and racism in Britain were being led by those who weren't affected by it. She posted a piece on her blog, entitled: 'Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race'. Her words hit a nerve. The post went viral and comments flooded in from others desperate to speak up about their own experiences. Galvanised by this clear hunger for open discussion, she decided to dig into the source of these feelings. Exploring issues from eradicated black history to the political purpose of white dominance, whitewashed feminism to the inextricable link between class and race, Reni Eddo-Lodge offers a timely and essential new framework for how to see, acknowledge and counter racism. It is a searing, illuminating, absolutely necessary exploration of what it is to be a person of colour in Britain today.
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Alexx.Harperr
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Wow, it's so refreshing to finally be reading about racism in the no-bullshit way that Reni writes it, which is exactly how we should be talking about it if we ever want to truly develop positively as a society for the benefit of genuinely everyone. Every chapter was rich with facts, fair reasoning, and a lot of information about Britain's heavy involvement is a racist history that simply isn't taught to us, despite how important it is. Recommend!

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Smarkies
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Clear and direct articulation of white privilege and how it affects the world in which we live in.
Focuses on the experience of UK.
#booked2021 #antiracismbook

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jenniferw88
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Leniverse Best seller in Ancient Mayan History? 🤔 The Amazon categories are weird! 😆 14mo
TrishB @Leniverse they always make me laugh! 14mo
MicheleinPhilly @Leniverse 😂😂 My favorite is still Barack Obama‘s “A Promised Land” being #1 in Victorian Literary Criticism. Go home Amazon, you‘re drunk. @TrishB 14mo
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keepingupwiththepenguins
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I would love to give this one a blanket recommendation as a catch-all universally-accessible masterwork of consciousness-raising, but I can‘t imagine people still deeply entrenched in systemic racism learning from it. I would recommend it only to readers who are ready and willing to meet and understand Eddo-Lodge on her terms. Full review: https://keepingupwiththepenguins.com/why-im-no-longer-talking-to-white-people-ab...

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Liz_M
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January (and beyond for the chunksters) to read stack! (Tagged book is an ebook & therefore not pictured)

Billypar Interested to hear what you think about Fever Dream and Time's Arrow. Both of them are so inventive as far as how the narrative works (but in very different ways). 1y
BarbaraBB What a great stack! 1y
Liz_M @Billypar I'm impressed that you could pick out Time's Arrow! I suspect my desire to read Fever Dream is partly your fault. I've enjoy the other Amis books I've read and expect to like this one as well. 1y
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ChasingOm
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I met my #FeastMode goal yesterday! Here‘s my potential Thanksgiving Day spread...

Goals:
1 Chapter of the Tagged Book
Read either the comic trade or novella. (Both tagged below.)

I‘m also cooking and playing Animal Crossing, so I chose two short books that I can complete! 😄

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Amy_gla
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Must read, opens up so much

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Lucy_Anywhere
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#TBRPile 📚 Continuing my self-education about race and privilege

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Curvybookgirl
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Mehso-so

Interesting read

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bekakins
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This book should be required reading for everyone. Eye-opening.

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AnneCecilie
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A must read.

A look into the history of racism in the UK, but maybe more importantly a look into how people aren‘t just one thing. That women of color face discrimination both as women and colored and that these aren‘t opposites. How being working class and being colored also means that you are disadvantaged on more than one front. And that white people need to start thinking about their privilege.

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Floresj
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One aspect of this book that I really found interesting was the focus of racism in Britain and the impact of colonialism on how Brits treated and accepted people who came from areas that they conquered. I also found her essays on white privilege, feminism and class thought provoking. This book is a must read for those wanting to round out their anti-racism education.

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Mrs_B
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Always a difficult but necessary read (or listen in this case). Reni explains very well systemic racism. I appreciated listening to the chapter discussing racism within the feminism movement. Highly recommended read.

Leftcoastzen I thought it was great! 2y
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heikemarie
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Couching opposition to anti-racist speech and protest as a noble fight for freedom of speech is about protecting whites people from being criticized. It seems there is a belief among some white people that being accused of racism is far worse than actual racism.

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Mitch
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I‘ve just taken out an audiobook subscription - determined to shape a space to enjoy some audio. I‘m a huge podcast fan - which leave little too for audio books. But I‘ve read so many great reviews to audio versions so I‘m going to make it work! ✔️

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/02/a-word-in-your-ear-why-the-rise-of...

squirrelbrain I‘ve only just got into audiobooks, and I‘ve just signed up to Audible and Scribd. Might not have as much time when I get back to work but, like you, I‘m determined to fit some time in somewhere. 2y
Mitch @squirrelbrain me too. I joined mainly because of this book - which has had such rave reviews for the audio - 2y
wanderinglynn @Mitch @squirrelbrain I only embraced audiobooks in the last year, but I now love them and a huge fan. I like them because you can listen while doing other things, like cooking or crafts. I also listen to them on my commute. 2y
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squirrelbrain This is a recent favourite of mine, @Mitch, @wanderinglynn - @julesG and I did a #buddylisten and both loved it! It‘s on Scribd. 2y
wanderinglynn @squirrelbrain I will check it out! 👍🏻 2y
jenniferw88 I loved this one on Audible - the only thing that would have made it better is the addition of Mark Gatiss as the spooky voice! 2y
Chelsea.Poole I'm a huge Audiobooker! 😍 I have to drop in to say, please please try something besides Audible. I work at a public library so I'm most familiar with the FREE and wonderful apps Libby and hoopla. But I hear there's also a great way to purchase audiobooks from bookstores. I believe it's Libro.fm I've seen discussed here...? Audible is harmful--they have enough $ to create content that they do not make available anywhere else. A Monopoly 2y
rockpools @Chelsea.Poole I think @BookishClaire posted an article about this the other day. Membership of libro.fm is only available to US/Canada, I think, but you can buy individual titles and (it looks like) access their sales prices if you live elsewhere- will definitely try them sometime. 2y
Mitch @jenniferw88 love her Norfolk series 👍🏼 2y
Mitch @squirrelbrain 👍🏼 2y
Mitch @Chelsea.Poole @rockpools I got in touch with libro.fm a few weeks ago and they sorted me out with a membership using a gift card as you can‘t take out a normal subscription if you‘re not in the US. 👍🏼 2y
rockpools @Mitch Oh that‘s really neat! 2y
julesG @Chelsea.Poole I love what you just wrote. I'm a huge audiobook fan. I'd really like to use Libby and Hoopla, but my local library doesn't support it. (I'm in Germany, I should add.) I'd also love to use other stores than audible, but either audiobooks are horribly expensive, or my German IP doesn't allow me to even open an account. 2y
julesG @Mitch oh wow! That's a good idea. Thanks for the info. 2y
Kappadeemom I can‘t keep up with podcasts much less as audiobooks to the list 😀 2y
JamieArc I have to admit that I used to be a huge podcast listener but since really getting into audiobooks 3-4 years ago I don‘t listen to podcasts too much any more. I don‘t think it helped that a lot of my fave podcasts started talking about Trump all the time, so it made it easy to do audiobooks instead. I miss podcasts sometimes, but love audiobooks too much to give that time to podcasts. 2y
Mitch @Kappadeemom I know the feeling. I‘ve tried about 3 times this year to get into audiobooks and failed miserably every time !🤣 2y
Mitch @julesG yeah - it allows you to buy a gift subscription card with a bank account outside of the US. But sadly doesn‘t allow you to purchase a subscription the normal way. But it was a good work around. 2y
Mitch @JamieArc I have a feeling life only makes room for one - podcasts or audiobooks! 2y
BethM I love audiobooks! Like @wanderinglynn I use them for commute, house work, etc. I‘ve done Libby, audible, audiobooks.com, and scribd. Scribd is by far my favorite bc you aren‘t buying the titles and can have more than one a month. 2y
Sargar114 Thanks for sharing. I‘m just about to dabble in audiobooks and am kinda excited about it! 2y
MsMelissa I have tried and tried to get into audiobooks, but I simply can‘t listen to them unless it‘s the only thing I‘m doing (they were my savior several years back when I had debilitating vertigo for weeks and was bedridden). I‘ve tried when crafting, when walking, when puttering around my house, but I get distracted too easily and miss too much. Oh well. 2y
Chelsea.Poole @julesG I knew these options weren't available everywhere but I was hoping to spread the word for those who are able to access it. I'm hoping these options will be available to you and everywhere sometime soon!! Thank you! 😊 2y
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heikemarie
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There isn‘t anything notably, individually racist about the people who work in all of the institutions he [hypothetical typical black British man] interacts with. Some of the people will be black themselves. But it doesn‘t really matter what race they are. They are both in and of a society that is structurally racist, and so it isn‘t surprising when these unconscious biases seep out into the work they do when they interact with the general public.

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heikemarie
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This book is super readable, as all great nonfiction should be. I like getting to hear some history and perspective of a black person from Britain, and considering the similarities and differences in experience when compared to the US‘s history of race and racism.

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Godmotherx5
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1️⃣I was torn over recommending How to Be an Antiracist by I. X. Kendi or the tagged book. Everyone is probably familiar with Kendi‘s enlightening book. Eddo-Lodge provides the British perspective. Global change is crucial. 2️⃣ I am always open to suggestions. My TBR is huge. @TheSpineView #TwoForTuesday

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Leftcoastzen
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#BLM An absolute gem! I do read widely about race but mostly thru books focused on the U.S.The author does an outstanding job of explaining systemic racism, the lack of greater inclusion regarding the feminist movement & class.Her added chapter notes that some gains have been made , but in light of Brexit, Trump, & other countries worldwide embracing racist , anti-immigrant, & Nationalistic political ideas we should be ever vigilant.

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Apinlibraryland
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I picked this book up mostly because of the provocative title, but what I got was a fascinating and insightful look at racism in the UK. I especially liked the sections on feminism and class. Read it! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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heikemarie
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As the kids say, “Let‘s goooo” 😂

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wanderinglynn
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Thought provoking and an important read. I can‘t recommend it enough.

Book 3/4 for #jubliantjuly and another free space on my #bookspin bingo card. 👍🏻

#intergrateyourshelf

Andrew65 Well done. 👏👏👏 2y
TheAromaofBooks Yay!! Great progress!! 2y
wkm306 Intriguing summary 2y
wanderinglynn @wkm306 I recommend reading it. Although she discusses racism specifically in the UK, much of the discussion has broader application. 2y
wkm306 @wanderinglynn yup i added to my stack 📚 2y
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kyraa
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One everyone should read

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AbigailJaneBlog
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Readers have no excuse not to be educated

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COBryen
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I was recommended this book as protests broke out following the death of George Floyd and as Black Lives Matter was on headlines in the UK.

I knew very little about race and the struggles faced and thought being 'colour blind' was okay and enough. This book discusses structural racism, and racism in feminism and class. It has helped me learn and asks for action to bring justice. It focuses on the UK.

I recommend to all

TrishB I agree, this one changed my outlook completely. Not enough to just not be racist, have to be anti- racist. 2y
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Victoria6
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Book #26: Gotta unlearn and relearn quite a lot!

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Bakingbookworm
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⭐⭐⭐⭐ - An important, eye-opening book that is a must-read for people who want to understand systemic racism - its effects, its history and its devastating effects - so we can begin the long journey to end it. It's going to take all of us. This is a good book to start your journey.

My Review: https://bit.ly/WhyImNoLongerTalkingRace

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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And one that‘s sitting on my #BLMTBR pile, I really need to read it this year. There is always more to keep reading and learning, keep an open mimd and make it a lifelong project, the more you read, the more connections you‘ll make!

#BLM
#BLMReadingList

Jee_HookedOnBookz An eye-opening read, but I preferred 'So You Want to Talk About Race' and find it more accessible :) 2y
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Thisisus_reading
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The amount of arguments I‘ve had with people who “don‘t see colour” and who “wish people would just forget the past” 🤦🏼‍♀️

Genuinely think this book needs to be compulsory high school reading. I‘m learning so much.

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Whatannareads
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“In culture particularly the positive affirmations of whiteness are so widespread, the average white person doesn‘t even notice them”

“To be white is to be human, to be white is universal- I only know this because I am not”

“We can‘t afford to stay silent, this book and an attempt to speak”

Got impatient waiting for my physical copy so audible it is- I am all ears 👂

#bethannesbookclub #blacklivesmatter #newread #currentlyreading

tippytupps I went for Kindle for the exact same reason!! 2y
Whatannareads @Thisisus_reading are you up night feeding to🙈🙈😴😴 2y
Whatannareads @tippytupps Hehe great minds, And all that! Or is it impatient ones?!? 😂 2y
Thisisus_reading Ha @Whatannareads Yep - was hoping she would sleep through but no luck tonight 😴 2y
Whatannareads @Thisisus_reading I hear you 😴🥱 we have the opposite issue Flo‘s on quite a strict feeding plan at the minute so she would quite happily sleep through but we still have to wake her at present. 2y
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tippytupps
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When you find a fabulous new book club and this is the next read. I have a good feeling about this one! #whatimreading

Nute Welcome to Litsy! It‘s a warm and friendly community. I know that you will enjoy yourself here. I‘m looking forward to getting to know you!🙂 2y
Powered_By_Plants Welcome to Litsy 🥳 , have heard great things about this book . Iv Currently got it on hold on the Libby 🤞 huge waiting list . @LitsyWelcomeWagon 2y
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Thisisus_reading
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“Every voice raised against racism chips away at its power”

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SW-T
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Reni Eddo-Lodge has become the first black British author to take the overall No 1 spot in the UK‘s official book charts, making her the first black British author to take the top slot since Nielsen began recording book sales in 2001.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/16/reni-eddo-lodge-first-black-britis...

annahenke Wow, that‘s an astonishing stat 2y
TrishB Great news, but shameful for 2020. 2y
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Emilymdxn
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Such good news, but also so depressing that they started tracking UK book charts in 2001 and this is the first black British author and only the second black author at all (thank you Michelle Obama) to top the list. The fact this even has to be news at all shows what a state we‘re in. Her response to the news is really interesting to read I‘ll put the link in comments

#blacklivesmatter #blackpublishingpower

Butterfinger Thanks for sharing the link. 2y
rwmg And Bernadine Evaristo is top of the fiction paperback chart https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/10/black-british-authors-uk-book-char... 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa That is so completely crazy....So much work to do! 2y
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sarahlandis
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“Structures... are made out of people. When we talk about structural racism, we are talking about the intensification of personal prejudices, of groupthink.”

Pretty great read. I didn‘t realize how little I knew about race relations in other countries. I am, and the book points out, focused on a very American-centric view of race. this book pointed out that I still have so much to learn about the WORLDS history of race and colonization

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ChasingOm
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It was a good “mail” week in terms of my #integrateyourshelf project. I‘ve been reading diverse fiction for years, but I can afford to put my money where my priorities are, so I‘m making an effort to buy more from BIPOC authors and get my white authors through the library.

The physical books support #DuendeDistrict pop-up bookstore through bookshop.com and the audiobook supports #SemiColon bookstore through Libro.fm.

#blackstoriesmatter

Julsmarshall I find myself in much of the same place; I‘ve read pretty diversely and seek out #ownvoices but I have so much farther to go. Your post eloquently expressed exactly how I‘m feeling 😄 Happy reading/listening. (edited) 2y
Emilymdxn Fantastic post and I love the idea of the #integrateyourshelf project, is it an organised one I can join? I‘ve felt like I‘ve been consciously trying to read more diversely for years but when I crunched the numbers this week it showed my reading was much more dominated by white authors than I realised. When I get paid I‘m putting in an order from a black owned london bookshop I‘ve found online recently, which is a good baby step 2y
ChasingOm @Emilymdxn It‘s nothing organized, just a hashtag I came up with. I read something on my social media this past week about how saying you want “diversity” in the workplace is more like you want to look like you‘re trying while “integration” should be the real goal. So I merged that with a book pun and here we are. 😂 Maybe I‘ll think some more on my goals with the project and invite people to join.... (edited) 2y
Emilymdxn Id love to be part of an effort to make this a thing! That‘s a really interesting thought from your social media. I‘d not thought of it before but now you say it I think I agree. 2y
ChasingOm I‘ve never done a “thing” on Litsy before, lol, but if you want to toss some ideas back and forth, you can email me at chasingom (at) gmail. 😄 I think it could be fun! 2y
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Bookwomble
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Feel the fear, stretch into learning, grow 🖤❤🖤
#blacklivesmatter

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ONH
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Reni Eddo-Lodge has contributed so much to the global conversation on race, and she does it succinctly, passionately, and straightforwardly. Her skills as a journalist really shine in this book.

There is always more that can be learned and done about the structurally racist systems we live in. This book does focus on the U.K. rather than America, but it is a good place to start and I learned so much. #BLM 👊🏿

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eraderneely
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My local indie just posted this. How to Be an Antiracist and Me and White Supremacy are both being reprinted in the UK too. Amazing!

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TrishB
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#blacklivesmatter
Exhausted calling everyone out on fb for saying all lives matter. Education is essential.
Weary of everything at the moment, what a time and place we‘re in.

MsMelissa I‘ve been watching the news coming out of the US and I find it both discouraged and encouraging. Discouraging that such horrible racism still exists in this day and age, and encouraging that so many more people seem to be willing to take a stand for what‘s right. I really hope that meaningful and lasting change can come out of this. It‘s more than past time for it. 2y
BookwormM That is a powerful quote and so true. My heart goes out to everyone who is suffering 2y
TrishB @Book_Fiend_Melissa thank you for reminding me of the positive ❤️ 2y
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TrishB @BookwormM ❤️ 2y
GingerAntics I love this quote!!! 2y
TrishB @GingerAntics I‘ve found it very helpful with the yeah but sitting on the fence racists!! (edited) 2y
GingerAntics Oh my god, those folks drive me nuts. “I‘m not racist, but...” I just want to scream at them. I genuinely commend every black person on the planet for not slapping those folks into oblivion everyday. I have a hard enough time not doing it and I‘m white. (edited) 2y
Chrissyreadit The video of her presentation was very powerful. 2y
suzie.reads What is wrong with people? I've seen people putting status' saying white lives matter. Absolute morons who are too stupid to know what is going on in the world and have no respect. Makes me so mad! 2y
TrishB @GingerAntics exactly! 2y
TrishB @Chrissyreadit I have to admit to not knowing anything about her until today (always room for learning!). But I have watched her on YouTube and she is very powerful and also very simple, clear reasonings. 2y
TrishB @suzie.reads I can‘t even.....gave up on fb in the end as I was just winding myself up. 2y
Chrissyreadit @TrishB I had to step away from FB during last presidential election. The overwhelming purposeful ignorance and hatred were toxic. 2y
suzie.reads @TrishB I need to do the same. Status 'white lifes matters' can't even spell let alone have any respect. I just deleted them 🙃 2y
TrishB @Chrissyreadit same here at Brexit time. Though I did delete a lot of people at the time too because I just couldn‘t cope with the hatred and bile. ☹️ 2y
TrishB @suzie.reads best thing to do! 2y
Reggie ❤️❤️❤️ 2y
Butterfinger Powerful. They do know what is going on and yet they are not willing to understand the rage and anger. I've lost so many family members because as they say, "she reads too much." And thank God I do. But it is still so tiresome to hear that from family because I am a humanist and I condemn them for their disempathetic views. 2y
wordslinger42 Very well said ❤ 2y
Jennifer3 ^^^^^^^^ All of this. 2y
CarolynM ❤️ 2y
batsy I saw on twitter a guy who mainly posts about football say that this book opened his eyes and made him really think, and it was good to hear that. Sometimes I despair that I overvalue reading. But this was a small bud of hope ♥️ 2y
TrishB @batsy this book helped me understand what I could actually do to help, that it wasn‘t just enough to be anti- racist I needed to do more. That it is also making others think is great 👍🏻 2y
batsy @TrishB I definitely need to read this, and soon! 2y
Caroline2 Yep!! I‘ve been avoiding FB lately because of this. I can‘t handle another meme from my Uncle Jeff banging on about White Lives Matter Too!!! 🙄 😡 2y
Centique This is such a good way to demonstrate the truth. I‘ve cut a couple of people out of my life because they haven‘t progressed at all for years despite me calling them out. I‘m realising though that me cutting people off isn‘t helping POC - it‘s just my anger getting the best of me 😥 2y
TrishB @Caroline2 oh those family members....☹️ 2y
TrishB @Centique sometimes we are not banging on an open door though. I managed to get 2 people to take things down on fb this week by pointing out what they‘d posted was racist and why. Small wins. Have I changed their minds/hearts, I don‘t know but I hopefully made them think. Sometimes it‘s ok to be angry too though!! 😘😘 2y
Michellesibs My soul hears how tiring it is at the moment but we have to hope that this is finally the movement that kick starts a system reform. The fact that all these books are sold out everywhere is really encouraging, there are people educating themselves, lets ignore the others. 2y
TrishB @Michellesibs I hope so ❤️ can‘t lose hope yet! 2y
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nanuska_153
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#7days7books Day 6

Presenting books that changed me or left a deep impression on me.

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CRR
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I learned a whole bunch from reading this book. I appreciated learning more of the history of race in Britain. I benefited from reading the authors perspective and through considering her words deeply. I‘m thankful she wrote this book and I‘m thankful to have read it.

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Jen2
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Pickpick

I learned so much!!!

elizabethlk This book is a favourite of mine, it's so brilliant and informative. 2y
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Connster
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I‘ve already beaten my reading challenge of 100 books and am now at 125 books read this year. These are some of my favourites...I‘ve been playing around with layout apps!

Clwojick The Hate U Give 😭😭😭😭 3y
Connster @Clwojick Yesss! So good but so 😭😭😭 (edited) 3y
Clwojick Agreed. I loved it. But it shattered my heart. 3y
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Connster @Clwojick Me too! I haven‘t seen the film yet and I‘m not sure I want to as it‘s just 💔💔💔 3y
Clwojick I will admit to turning it on, and then shutting it off after 5 minutes. I just couldn‘t bring on the emotional damage that I knew it would bring 😂😂😂 Like, I was legitimately worried about having to go to work with swollen eyes the next day 😂 3y
Connster @Clwojick 😢😢😢 I guess the time will be right for us both to watch it at some point! You know when something‘s good for you or not and whether to do it 😁 3y
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