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Unmentionable: The Victorian Lady's Guide to Sex, Marriage, and Manners
Unmentionable: The Victorian Lady's Guide to Sex, Marriage, and Manners | Therese Oneill
A scandalously honest guide to the secrets of Victorian womanhood. "If "Unmentionable" does not secure the Pulitzer Prize for Most Fascinating Book Ever, the whole gig is rigged. Therese Oneill opens the doors to everything we secretly wanted to know about the Victorian era, but didn't think to ask. Knickers with no crotches? Check. Arsenic as a facial scrub? Check. The infrequency of bathing and the stench of the Victorian human body? Check mate. "Hilarious, horrifying, shocking and revelatory, "Unmentionable" is for every girl who pictured herself running through a field of wildflowers in a silk dress and Little House on the Prairie boots, only to discover she has nits in her hair, her clothes have never been washed and she sleeps with her poop under her bed in a bowl. A miracle of a book and one of my favorite reads ever, "Unmentionable" will be my go-to gift this year. All hail Therese Oneill for uncovering all of that dirty, dirty laundry." -- Laurie Notaro, #1 "New York Times" bestselling author of "It Looked Different on the Model "and "Housebroken"
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Brooke_H
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This is pretty much what the subtitle says it is, although very tongue-in-cheek, the sarcasm flag flying high. The book is written in the second person, which I found clever and silly at the same time. The conceit is that the author has whisked the reader (a woman, presumably) back through time, and now she has to learn how to survive as a Victorian lady. Which is not pleasant. I had a good time with this kind of easy breezy history lesson.

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Sarahreadstoomuch
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Fun and quirky nonfiction regarding what life was really like for women in Victorian times; including but not limited to: dress, going to the bathroom, flirting, hosting a dinner party, and hysteria. Lots of quotes from original texts/manuals from the time and lots of snark to keep it real.

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Cazxxx
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It‘s very rare that I read something light and fun but this was just what I needed. It‘s so tongue in cheek that I found myself laughing out loud quite a few times. The underlying subject is how women were told to behave and dress in the 19th century but it was so snarky that it was hilarious

jlhammar I hope we get a new one from her soon! I enjoyed both this and 2y
Cazxxx @jlhammar ooh I want to read that one now! 2y
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I‘m a day late in doing this because I‘ve been away from home. Thank you so much @aroc . I‘m especially excited for the tagged book, and looking forward to sharing it with my mother in law, who is obsessed with all things Victorian Era 🥰 #llss #LitsyLoveSolsticeSwap @Tattooedteacher @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @rsteve388

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I love the cover of the tagged book!! Awesome gifts!! 💛💛 3y
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Current audiobook. I‘ve been reading a lot of dense 19th century history for research so the Intro to this felt a little patronizing but I‘m hoping the actual information is a little more interesting. Need to lighten my reading up a little bit.

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Ash.on.the.line
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Last review for the day I promise #bookspinbingo
At first I didn‘t like the tone of the narrator but it grew on me. Fun informative look into the time period and how women dealt with every day life and trials they went through mostly because men thought they knew best (not always different from today). I could see many historical romances being based around much of the information in this book though!

Ash.on.the.line This was the oldest book on my TBR and now I only have one book that has been on my TBR for over a year. May work on that next! 🙀 if I finish it all my TBR will have been on it for less than a year!!! 3y
KateReadsYA Hey I hope you are feeling a little better. I sent out your letter yesterday, I hope you get it soon and have a Merry Christmas!!!!!!
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Ash.on.the.line @KateReadsYA Hey thanks, I am starting to feel better! Thank you for sending a card I‘ll be trying to send out replies asap, might take a bit but I will reply! 😁 the Litsy community is really too kind! And Merry Christmas to you!!! (edited) 3y
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RainyDayReading
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This book definitely whips the rose tinted glasses off your face when it comes to looking back at the lives of women in the Victorian era. Some stuff I knew already and other stuff was new to me but overall this book was horrifyingly hilarious. The writing style could be off putting for some people because it‘s written as if you had time traveled to the Victorian era and the narrator is talking directly to you but I found it snarky and fun.

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It‘s weird. I‘ve been feeling like reading an older epic fantasy...and yet the only thing that can hold my attention is non-fiction at the moment 😪 Maybe after I get this done I can switch back to fantasy. What I do know though, is that I am very glad I don‘t live in the Victorian era 😅

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BookwormAHN
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I really enjoyed reading Unmentionable. Its been on my tbr for awhile & I was really excited that it is this month's #Doublespin book. It was funny, sometimes disturbing and irreverent. I'm never going to look at Victorian England the same way again 🙈🙉🙊
#BookSpin @TheAromaofBooks
#Booked2020 #MakesYouLOL @Cinfhen @4thhouseontheleft @BarbaraTheBibliophage
#MemoirsAndMysteries #History

TheAromaofBooks Great review!!! 4y
Cinfhen I‘ve heard this book is pretty entertaining 😁 4y
SconsinBookyBadger 😬 still sitting on my tbr 4y
BarbaraTheBibliophage Glad to hear you enjoyed it. I thought some of it was pretty depressing—women were so oppressed. 4y
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LondElle89
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This was such a fun read. It was tongue in cheek and sassy. Great intro to Victorian Lady's history. 4 out of 5.

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RedxoHearts
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I'm always a sucker for a book with random facts and tidbits. This one did not disappoint. Unmentionable gives insight on what life was like for the women of the Victorian era past the surface of what is usually talked about in history. It's written in a funny sometimes snarky tone and will definitely make you happy to be a modern woman.

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LauraJ
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Busts some popular Victorian myths and informs with icky detail the reality of what daily life was like 150 years ago. Audiobook is excellent! Looking forward to her next book, Ungovernable.

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Erie
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It just occurred to me as I was returning this that I never got around to stating how much I enjoyed reading it, but I very much did. It's an endless barrage of truly horrifying facts that had me ranting to my friends for days afterward told in arguably the best way to get through without losing your mind: unrelenting sarcasm.

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Equal parts entertaining and eye-opening. I have a tendency to romanticize, well most things, and this book did it‘s best to burst my bubble by shedding light on the undesirable parts of the Victorian age. While I‘m definitely thankful for indoor plumbing and modern medicine, I‘ll always love those big, smelly, impractical dresses.

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Perhaps there is still time to get your perfect beach body before summer!!

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Brie
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This was a fun, humorous, slightly horrifying glimpse back into the Victorian era in the realms of fashion, medicine, and etiquette as it specifically referred to women of the period. Let‘s just say I‘m glad I live in the 21st century, even with its many flaws.

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Flawless reasoning 😂

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Reviewsbylola
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Victorians had some wild ideas about how to #fixyou. #anglophileapril

MicheleinPhilly 😂😂😂 5y
LeahBergen 😂😂 5y
Mdargusch Crazy! 5y
emilyhaldi That photo says a thousand words 5y
Cinfhen This book cracks me up, EVERY TIME 5y
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BarbaraTheBibliophage
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If you enjoy history, especially about women‘s lives, this is densely populated with information. Its comedic attitude helps the bitter realities go down more easily. I thought it was funny. Until it was just overwhelmingly sad and depressing. The misogyny, people.

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BarbaraTheBibliophage @Gezemice Oh well, it‘s no problem really. I think some books are dependent on the timing of when you read them. And I have some weird baggage with all that Victorian language from the quotes. The cult / religion I grew up in used a book full of gobbledygook in that style. Every time I read language like that, I feel blocked and triggered. Just figuring this out after being out of that cult for 30 years. Go figure. 5y
Gezemice @BarbaraTheBibliophage Oh I am sorry! Yes, I understand, I sometimes cannot read some books because they are too painful for some personal reason. Such as rage or calling people names like the r word. I could not finish “The Man Who Took His Wife For a Hat” for that reason. 5y
Gezemice @BarbaraTheBibliophage I am listening to “The Woman in White” and it seems like this book in action - how full a control a husband exerted over his wife, and how much a woman was to the mercy of men - guardians, husbands - is at the core of this otherwise exciting mystery. 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Gezemice It‘s all good. I sold the book to my fav used book seller and have moved on! 🤪 Thanks for the heads up on The Woman in White. I‘ve got it on my Audible shelf—now I know to wait for a while before tackling it! (edited) 5y
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#LitsyPSA: For anyone who has seen the recent posts hashtagged #NFBuddyRead and thought, hey, that book sounds interesting, you can get the ebook for $3.99.

BarbaraTheBibliophage Good point!! 5y
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Gezemice
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After finishing this book, this still stands out to me - under a bajillion layers of clothing, the Victorian lady went commando in the crotch area, like Paris Hilton. It apparently had to do with the impossibility of lifting those skirts to go to the bathroom. Who would have thunk?
#nfbuddyread @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BarbaraTheBibliophage

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Right, can‘t get all those layers off in a hurry! It made me think of the old one piece long underwear with a seat flap. 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Just to think they did not even use much during their periods! Madness! And the comment about the Moulin Rouge... I had no idea! 5y
Slajaunie 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice Yes, I honestly had never thought of that either....my innocent self thought it was all those high kicks and ankles and legs showing, like the Rockettes.🤪😱😂 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yep, they always tell you that the sight of an ankle was scandalous. But ne thinks a lady falling over was way more scandalous back then than it would be now... I wonder if the period costumes in movies allow the ladies to go to the bathroom... 5y
Crazeedi This looks like a rather interesting book!! 5y
Gezemice @Crazeedi Well, who would not be interested in crotchless drawers? 😉 5y
Crazeedi @Gezemice exactly, lol😁😁 5y
GingerAntics Well you also have to remember, underpants are a modern invention. No one worn them, for the reasons we now wear them, until rather recently. Probably the last 100 years-ish. 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics I did not know that, but gross. 5y
GingerAntics 🤣😂🤣 actually, underpants aren‘t even universal. When you can barely afford clothes, underpants aren‘t really important. Most countries still don‘t wear underpants. It‘s a western thing, really. Why is it gross? It‘s actually healthier, especially for females, to not wear them. They just create humidity where you really don‘t want it. 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics It is amazing to have historians around. Love it! But still gross. All sorts of fluids leak out if you are not wearing them. And get on your outer clothes. And things you might sit on. Which might get into your lady parts. And who knows who sat there before... Ugh. Nope, gross, thank you! Although I concede the humidity thing in hot climates. I did do some googling though... and tgey do wear loin cloths! 5y
GingerAntics Yeah, loin cloths do sometimes function as something similar. Someone dared me to run commando once, dude it was freeing. No wedgie and absolutely everything evaporates through the “cool 360” wicking fabric. 😆 when it‘s too cold I don‘t do it, but especially when it‘s 100 degrees outside, it‘s a game changer. 5y
GingerAntics Where are you sitting with no trousers/jeans/skirts on that you‘re concerned with who sat there last? 😂 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics I‘ll just call you Paris Hilton from now on. 😉 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics I think most of my clothes would feel gross after I sat down and then I got up... Also, miniskirts! And if you are wearing your jeans without underwear, you better wash it every day. I don‘t. Not to mention the clothes that are dry clean only. As far as sitting, this explains why women in India who are menstrating are banished to the grass hut. Tgey sit on the floor while cooking!! 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics When I had to wear pantyhose to work (Victorians were not the only ones with torturous underwear) I did the concession to stockings with garters and long, loose skirts in the summer months, and indeed it was freeing. But that‘s as far as I got in that arena... I am just glad pantyhose is mostly a thing of the past. (edited) 5y
GingerAntics Oh I would never do jeans, that would be a bit rough, I would think. I generally wear underwear, I just don‘t find anything wrong with choosing not to. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I don‘t know about the mini skirt thing. If your skirt is so short it doesn‘t cover your butt when you sit, it‘s probably too short. 5y
GingerAntics Oh god I hate pantyhose. I must be allergic to something in those and tights. They always made me itch. The pantyhose less than the tights, but still. 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics Miniskirts are long enough to sit. But the view... 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics It‘s the material - pantyhose makes you sweat. I hated the smell of my own feet! I never had such smelly feet in socks or bare feet. Tights don‘t give me a problem if they are mostly cotton, but all sythetics is bad. 5y
GingerAntics I‘ll give you that on the view. Yeah. That would be creepy. Pantyhose do make you smell weird. I remember that. I don‘t know if I ever had cotton tights. I probably would have been okay with those...maybe. It didn‘t help that my grandmother insisted I wear tights, so to “help” me she would lather me with lotion and then put baby powder on top. I was basically pasted into these things. It was gross. 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics Ouch! Thankfully no one insisted that I wear tights as a child. I do it occasionally nowadays although I am mostly for jeans. But they go well with a miniskirt in the winter. I would never wear them on their own like so many do nowadays. I feel like that‘s too much public info about your butt. 5y
GingerAntics We may be talking about two different things. I‘ve never seen anyone wear just tights (like pantyhose but thicker, and very popular for little girls in winter when dresses are required - I had to wear them at Christmas and for my First Communion). Leggings are the thin, stretchy pants things. People are wearing leggings alone now, especially the workout ones. I love how now they‘re being called “jeggings.” No idea what the hell is up with that. 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics Well they are the same thing here. Kinda confusing. Jeggings are keggings that are jeans patterned or jeans material. 5y
GingerAntics 🤦🏼‍♀️ dear god why smh 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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I quite enjoyed this snarky look at the past, It‘s so interesting to look into a past we continually romanticize (and some what to return to those glorified eras), but I love these looks back with modern eyes, and the stark reminder that not everything was rose-tinted. Life was hard and progress, with the science, knowledge, and understanding that created it, isn‘t something we should ever wish away.

#NFBuddyRead

Gezemice I thought it was great that it was written with lots of humor. It would have been rather depressing otherwise. On the other hand, we don‘t normally get the lowdown on what it was really like in any historical era. I am quite sure the Tudor court was way worse. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice I‘m betting the further back, definitely...then you were beheaded if you didn‘t produce a male heir, because of course, it was the lady‘s fault. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice But yes, the humor bit about outing the era‘s issues to a person of the modern era really worked for me. It reminded me a bit of Anthony Bourdain‘s Typhoid Mary book, historical and honest, but snarky and fun as well. (edited) 5y
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Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Typhoid Mary sounds fun, did not know it was humorous. But Get Well Soon was about plagues, and it was humorous, too, even had Typhoid Mary in it! It is interesting that many choose humor to talk of disgusting things. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice I think it‘s a way to make them more palatable. I‘ll definitely have to check out Get Well Soon. I wouldn‘t say Typhoid Mary was meant to be humorous, but the author‘s snark and as a cook putting himself in her shoes just made it a great take on an otherwise heavy subject. 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Kitchen Confidential is on my list. He sounds like a good author to check out. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice It‘s on my long list too. 5y
Megabooks Hey! If y‘all do any more of these, can I join in? (edited) 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Megabooks You most definitely can! We are running a bit behind, this was March‘s pick...April‘s book is White Rage which we‘ll get to, hopefully before May.🤞 5y
Megabooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa My library doesn‘t have that, but I‘ve requested it. It was on my TBR already! 👍🏻 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Megabooks Great! That‘s actually how @BarbaraTheBibliophage and I made our list when we started this Nonfiction books that had been sitting on our shelves and TBR lists for way too long. I‘m so happy you are interested in joining in! 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I wish I‘d been able to keep my feelings on the humorous side. After about 100 pages, I just got depressed for all these women. And also for how far we haven‘t come. Sure, we aren‘t forced to live in a filthy house with dirt floors (although globally, plenty of women still do). But the misogyny was just utterly overwhelming for me. I wanted to cry, even though the author was trying to make me laugh. 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Megabooks Yes, please join us! I can invite you and @Gezemice to the Google doc we have with our list. As long as I remember after I get home from work today ... 🤪 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Gezemice I thought Bourdain‘s Typhoid Mary was funnier and less forced. It was also shorter, which worked in its favor. I‘ve listened to him narrate his book Medium Raw, and loved it. 5y
Gezemice @BarbaraTheBibliophage An invite would be great! Thank you! And it is lovely for you to join, @Megabooks ! (edited) 5y
Gezemice @BarbaraTheBibliophage I definitely understand that some books just make us upset. I like history and I know this is part of history and I can deal with it. I am less able to deal with current things - so I will be skipping White Rage. I am quite ok with Victorian mysogyny but current rage about anything is too real. I am trying to block it out but still finds its way in daily... I am rather for finding peace nowadays @Riveted_Reader_Melissa 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice I can understand that...I‘ve been trying to balance by alternating around. I don‘t expect every book to be for ever one. 5y
Megabooks @BarbaraTheBibliophage @Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Thank you for the warm welcome! 🥰 I didn‘t find Typhoid Mary funny as much as touching, but it‘s been about 10 years since I‘ve read it. The audiobook of Unmentionable makes it a bit more fun than the print, but you miss out on the illustrations. I‘m with Marta as far as being able to digest far past struggles better than current ones. 5y
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And divorce men who hurt us. And do whatever work we want or need to do to make our lives as we would have them.”
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“Come on. We‘ll grab some fat-free froyo, text our partners to remind them they promised to make stir-fry tonight. We‘ll fill a shopping cart to spilling with safe, effective ibuprofen and tampons and shampoo. Just because we can.”

Best Conclusion! 😂👍

Keep nudging ladies, together now!

#NFBuddyRead

Gezemice Oh yeah, great, fun look-ahead. To put things into prespective. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice She has another book coming out soon about child rearing at that time, I may have to check it out...eventually. 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Neat! I will have to take a look, too! I am on a history kick now. 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice I love the fun and funny history books. Have you ever read Packing For Mars? 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa No but I recently ran across it somewhere and noted it under “might read”. I am not surprised you recommending it :) I think might be Hoopla. I discovered I can get five books a month - not much but no waiting... and not too many books but some look pretty good. And a good selection of classics on audio. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice You finally got Hoopla! I read a lot of my comics from there...I just read the newest Walking Dead and the new Sleepless. 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I saw the newest Sleepless! But I said only five so I gotta pace myself. 5y
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Gezemice
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In this snarky look at the Victorian underbelly, or rather, underskirt, Therese O‘Neill tells us all a lady needs to survive in this romantic era of filth, diseases, complete subjugation of women, and crotchless underwear. We learn (or rather, are told by Victorian men), how to menstruate, stay innocent until wedding night, cope with our husband‘s syphillis, flirt with a kerchief, and where to put our forks at dinner. Lots of fun. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Gezemice Enjoyable history, very snarky, easy read with many illustrations. #nfbuddyread @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BarbaraTheBibliophage @Weaponxgirl (edited) 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I enjoyed it and finished today too! 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Awesome! What was your biggest surprise? Mine was the crotchless underwear. Really! With that much clothing! 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice Right! It‘s because all those clothes were impossible to get out of in a hurry or often. 😂. So that and that the whole movie Hysteria lied to me!🤪 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa what movie? 🤔 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa It was called Hysteria and starred Maggie Gyllenhaal https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1435513/ 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Sounds like fun! But yeah, sounds like lying, too... 5y
Slajaunie Yeah...it‘s history. 5y
Gezemice @Slajaunie I love history. 😊👍 5y
Slajaunie I do as well! @Gezemice 5y
Gezemice @Slajaunie Awesome! Nice to find other history lovers. What‘s your favorite era? Mine is medieval and ancient Europe, especially Britain and the Tudors. 5y
Slajaunie Love the Tudors, French Revolution, The Romanovs. @Gezemice (edited) 5y
Gezemice @Slajaunie Awesome! Lots of intrigue and madness. 5y
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Okay, so pinching is not massage. And I should know, since I‘m a fancy board-certified massage therapist. Not the other, either. But, hey, if massage solves what ails us, I guess that‘s better than a lot of the other Victorian cures.

p.s. @Riveted_Reader_Melissa , I did power through today and finish. 👊🏻🤸🏼‍♂️🤸🏼‍♀️🤸🏼‍♂️🤸🏼‍♀️🤸🏼‍♂️

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I finished today too! 5y
Gezemice Glad to hear you finished! 5y
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It is good to know that the whole you can‘t win no matter what you do, there is no perfect middle ground really, “dammed if you do, damned if you don‘t” has always been baked into the female ideal.

I fell like this whole section backs up what we read in The Beauty Myth and then takes it back another 100 years! @BarbaraTheBibliophage
#NFBuddyRead

BarbaraTheBibliophage Yeah, these are the underpinnings of The Beauty Myth. Honestly, I‘m just so disgusted with the men of that era right now. I‘m struggling to finish because of it. And the men of today aren‘t any less frustrating. (The audiobook I was listening too wasn‘t the same time period, but had so many chauvinistic moments.) 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage Okay, I‘m closer to the end than I thought. I can power through. But this book stopped being funny about 75 pages ago. Now I‘m just depressed. 😰 5y
Gezemice @BarbaraTheBibliophage I thought it was funny all the way, although the subject gets more and more depressing indeed. 5y
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...”The presence of a single married lady, who may or may not be a crone, will mitigate this, and you then may walk as a group. Although you really ought not, unless you can get your brother or father to come, too. It can‘t be your cousin, because although eugenics is a booming area of study, intermarriage of first cousins is considered acceptable and cannot be considered otherwise as long as Victoria,” (cont. below)

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...”who bore her (first-) cousin-husband Albert nine inbred children, still reigns over the greatest empire on earth.” 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Have you got all that straight, don‘t forget it, or you‘ll be a “walker of streets” 🤪 5y
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And now you know, through all the centuries that woman were supposed to do, well not a lot, they were expected to be good cooks! It was vitally important.

She goes on to say: “A slice of burnt toast in the morning could trigger a terrifying series of events. It makes one wonder how many lives might have been spared if just one of Genghis Khan‘s concubines had known her way around a kitchen.”😂

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Texreader 🤣🤣🤣 I can‘t wait to get this book and read it. And here‘s another reason why... of course I hew to the belief that a full belly for every human (burnt toast-which I love with butter-or otherwise) would solve so many of this earth‘s ills. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Texreader It‘s so informative, but she writes it with such humor! It makes me think about how the future people will right about our time. 5y
CampbellTaraL Holy crap, I had no idea I wielded such power! *burns every meal* 😜 5y
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Just in case you thought the hygiene and social status of woman was overlookable in your quest to get to the “romantic” 19th century, think about the food. 🤢

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Karkar I think about these thing every time I read Outlander. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Karkar You might enjoy this book, it‘s so interesting in that context. 5y
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Did you ever wonder what Victorian women did with their periods or if it‘s possible to flirt using handkerchief sign language? Curious about the state of Victorian toilets? This is the book for you. It‘s both interesting and fun to read and I can‘t wait to read her new book coming out next month.

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BarbaraTheBibliophage
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Flirting will ruin you and shorten your life, whether you‘re male or female. Worse effects for females though. No flirting!

Quite a few good laughs in tonight‘s reading. I have no wish to time travel any earlier than 1960.

#unmentionable #NFbuddyread @Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa

UwannaPublishme 😂👍🏻 5y
Gezemice The struggle is real. 😉 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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And not only is it dirtier and stinkier than you thought, wow the racism....you know why you can feel all this, because you are not hardened by....hardship. Those others, who can not complain about it, obviously don‘t feel it either. 🙄

And hey, this is some of the same thinking that still leads Black Women to get less care, be taken less seriously, and have worse outcomes in our medical system today.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ... but mind you, this works great both ways. You, delicate flower, touch nothing, do nothing without a “doctor‘s” permission...it‘s injurious. Don‘t be silly, the maid can do x, y, and z and she IS fine. Well that‘s because she has had hardship her whole life so it is not injurious to her.🙄. #NFBuddyRead (edited) 5y
Graywacke 😲 5y
jpmcwisemorgan I think I want to be sick. 5y
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ScientistSam Oh geez 😞 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage These are great quotes from the book, even though the racism and sexism is rampant. I started it and then got sidetracked trying to finish a fiction book. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BarbaraTheBibliophage That‘s ok, we‘re in no rush. I‘m not even halfway yet. 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BarbaraTheBibliophage and I have a fiction going at the same time too and another due back at the library soon.🤪 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I have Mayor Pete‘s book as well. And we have the Midtown talk on Wednesday!! 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BarbaraTheBibliophage Yes we do! A busy week, but lots of great stuff in it. So yes, if we don‘t finish this one until early in April sometime, don‘t sweat it. 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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So if you are crabby and “fairly insane against your husband” during your time, it‘s because you aren‘t having your period properly! Obstinate lady, do it correctly and everything will be fine!🙄

#NFBuddyRead

Eggbeater 😂 5y
Emory I forgot how funny this book was. I might need to reread it soon. 5y
Swe_Eva 😂😂😂 5y
Naj I'm loving all your posts for this book! 5y
Laura317 Whew! I‘m glad that “insanity” is behind me! I‘m both cracking up and shaking my head over your posts from this book. 😂 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Well... I understand the whole town in the movie Footloose so much better now, and maybe those people who were aghast that AOC danced in college and found it disqualifying. 😱 Just trying to save them from a ”feeble middle life”...gotta save the ladies from themselves and their primitive instincts.🙄

#NFBuddyRead

BarbaraTheBibliophage Childhood crushes? Who doesn‘t have those? So much ridiculousness. 🤪 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BarbaraTheBibliophage Apparently only future spinsters who fade early! 😂 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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“Wow betide the unfortunate trifler!” 😂

Sorry this chapter is sad and cracking me up, so glad distinguished doctors (like phrenologists) were around to tell women the right way to go about this natural process.

#NFBuddyRead

Eggbeater I don't know what I'd do if some man didn't explain to me how to handle my monthlies. I might take a cold bath and freeze to death. 😂 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Eggbeater This whole chapter is basically that...and in summary, no matter what you are doing for yourself during that time, you are doing it wrong (according to the expert men). 5y
Laura317 Thank goodness we no longer have to hide ourselves as unclean now! 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage The original mansplaining! 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Why are the dresses so intricate, because they are NEVER washed🤷‍♀️

Swe_Eva Yeah, but they HAVE TO start smelling eventually. 🤔🤣 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Swe_Eva The earlier chapter was about how dirty everything really was in this time, raw open sewage, horses, basically mud and muck inches deep, and people bathed very infrequently (they thought it was unhealthy), and wore strong perfumes to cover it all up....so in that environment, probably wasn‘t very noticeable. 5y
Swe_Eva @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yum. 😨 I'll try to forget that next time I watch a romantic movie that takes place at that time... 😂 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Swe_Eva 😂That‘s what makes this so funny to read, the reality of the time versus how romanticized we‘ve made it in books and films. 5y
Swe_Eva @Riveted_Reader_Melissa True, I think I‘ll have to check this one out. 👍🏻 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Swe_Eva It‘s quite entertaining, and she‘s very sarcastic about the material and our delusions about the time period, which I am really enjoying. 5y
Swe_Eva @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Sounds excellent! 😁 5y
xxjenadanxx This is a book I‘ll have to read. 5y
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Yay for Scott! 😂

#NFBuddyRead

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Things to remember when touring old castles! 😂

#NFBuddyRead

Tadams4 That is so awesome! 5y
GingerAntics 🤣😂🤣 5y
Swe_Eva 😨😂 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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This book is horrible (thank god we didn‘t live then) and horribly funny!

The History of the pre-indoor plumbing era:
“How much poorer history would be if there hadn‘t been so many artistically talented perverts in days gone by.” 😂

#NFBuddyRead

GingerAntics 🤣😂🤣 5y
Texreader Great quote!! 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Starting this one tonight, and I‘m loving the snarkiness already! This might be just the NF shift I was looking for after a bunch of earnest political candidate reads! 😉

#NFBuddyRead

CampbellTaraL Oh man, I love this start! Show me the gritty! Or... maybe not too much because reality is icky enough in current times. I can't wait to read your quotes and commentary. 😄 5y
Naj ?? Stacking for the "pa-PA". 5y
Gezemice It is really fun although I got sidetracked with The Wars of the Roses. It‘s Shakespeare‘s fault 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Gezemice Best excuse ever!! 5y
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BarbaraTheBibliophage
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I‘m very glad to be in my super comfy (and a little goofy looking) pajama pants while I read about outhouses, corsets, and super dirty streets. And wine because I want it. Not because it‘s safer than massively contaminated water.

#nfbuddyread #unmentionable

LeahBergen 😂😂 Right? That‘s how I felt reading this book. 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @LeahBergen Oh yay—it‘s not just me! 5y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Sounds great! Let‘s definitely move forward and not go back again to that! 5y
Gezemice You are not wearing your corset at home? How dare you be so slovenly. This can ruin your life! (there is a story about that later) 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Gezemice I‘m definitely a slattern. Proud of it! 👊🏻🤣 5y
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Craftylikefox
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#blameitonlitsy both have been on my radar and I just finally gave in, after so many different posts. Plus I hadn‘t realized the black lagoon one had come out! I wasn‘t going to buy any books until I had a serious dent in my pile BUT 2018 was a low non fiction read year and it kind of bummed me out. I barely have any non fiction in my stack so I I really just had to get these to make sure I had some non fiction in the mix this year.

Kelican17 @Wife the tagged book. 5y
Wife @kelican I bailed on that one. The author tried to be too humorous and it got old quickly. I skimmed the rest for facts and pics before returning it to the library. 5y
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Gezemice
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Mansplaining ca. 1890.
“The highest [best] type of bosom... is not only placed well upon the chest, but can be best described as of slightly pine-apple form.”

@Weaponxgirl @BarbaraTheBibliophage @Riveted_Reader_Melissa

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Gezemice
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I have started reading Unmentionable for the #nfbuddyread. I also wanted to show off my tulips. It is still cold but if we have tulips, spring could not be far away, right?
@Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Weaponxgirl

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Beautiful photo and tulips! I want spring so badly, but here it‘s still cold, windy..and generally dismal looking.☹️ 5y
Gezemice @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Same here, it sucks! But you can always get some tulips... 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage I started it today. It‘s so zany ... and a little depressing. 5y
Gezemice @BarbaraTheBibliophage Yeah, it certainly takes the romance off the era... 5y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Gezemice For sure. I‘m glad it‘s not all totally new to me. Imagine how disillusioned someone would be ... 5y
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Weaponxgirl
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Mehso-so

Meh. This is one of those books that‘s not bad but you don‘t love it either. The whole humour is based of the idea that you wanted to live like these heroines and that was flawed for me. I‘m very fond of voting, contraception, painkillers ect. I know I don‘t want to live in the past already so sometimes the humour fell flat. It did though make me laugh on occasion too and it‘s very quick and easy to read. It‘s ok

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Yea, sorry to be that person but a book that‘s trying to dispel our rose tinted glasses about the past went full on beer goggles for our own.
If this was true a living wage wouldn‘t even need to be discussed and people in essential roles for society wouldn‘t be treated like they were idiots and unskilled in certain professions.
#nfbuddyread

GingerAntics 🤣😂🤣 5y
Gezemice I think what she is saying that in America we don‘t have a hereditary aristocracy... we do have people who inherit wealth but you can also make your own fortune if you are talented. Many billionaires started in their garages. There is class but it is not like lords vs. commoners. 5y
Weaponxgirl @Gezemice I think she went on to talk about the difference between Europe and a America class system but honestly the wording here just made me think about how some people in job roles are definitely not treated with respect. Such as in the service industry where tips are essential to making up your money to any kind of decent wage. 5y
Gezemice @Weaponxgirl Yeah, not everyone is respected, but I think I understand what she means by that working for your livelihood is a respected state to be. In fact, if you are wealthy but do not work, people would look at you funny. Even wealthy people work nowadays, they run companies or their social media empires. 5y
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