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Nomadland: Surviving America in the Twenty-First Century
Nomadland: Surviving America in the Twenty-First Century | Jessica Bruder
The end of retirement? From the beet fields of North Dakota to the National Forest campgrounds of California to Amazons CamperForce program in Texas, employers have discovered a new, low-cost labor pool, made up largely of transient older Americans. Finding that social security comes up short, often underwater on mortgages, these invisible casualties of the Great Recession have taken to the road by the tens of thousands in late-model RVs, travel trailers, and vans, forming a growing community of nomads: migrant laborers who call themselves workampers. On frequently traveled routes between seasonal jobs, Jessica Bruder meets people from all walks of life: a former professor, a McDonalds vice president, a minister, a college administrator, and a motorcycle cop, among many othersincluding her irrepressible protagonist, a onetime cocktail waitress, Home Depot clerk, and general contractor named Linda May. In a secondhand vehicle she christens Van Halen, Bruder hits the road to get to know her subjects more intimately. Accompanying Linda May and others from campground toilet cleaning to warehouse product scanning to desert reunions, then moving on to the dangerous work of beet harvesting, Bruder tells a compelling, eye-opening tale of the dark underbelly of the American economyone that foreshadows the precarious future that may await many more of us. At the same time, she celebrates the exceptional resilience and creativity of these quintessential Americans who have given up ordinary rootedness to survive. Like Linda May, who dreams of finding land on which to build her own sustainable Earthship home, they have not given up hope.
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Adventures-of-a-French-Reader
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Mehso-so

Quite disappointing...

While the subject matter is interesting, the delivery is lacking. First, the timeline of events is not well defined (no chronological order), then the structure of the book in itself isn't satisfactory neither. I feel like Jessica Bruder didn't really know where her book was leading, or the points she was wanting to make.

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DisneyFan
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Mehso-so

Eye opening and heartbreaking
But didn‘t hold my interest as much as other investigative reporting books like Evicted and Invisible Child
#bookspinbingo
#july2022

TheAromaofBooks Great progress!!! 2mo
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Shannon_McKinney
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I really enjoyed this one. It makes you ponder what‘s truly happening in the US.

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Bookishlie
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A re-read and very good. I wonder how all these people faired through Covid and the pandemic? If you haven‘t read it you should. All of this is probably just as pertinent today as it was when it was first written! 5 stars.

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SweetP1967
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Following several “nomads” through their journey being houseless, the exploration of community at the edges of more visible society was illuminating. At times too detailed and repetitive, overall a good book that treated those that shared their stories with respect.

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Smartypants
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Mehso-so

An interesting take on how cost of living, recessions, and Amazon have created communities of gypsies around America, particularly in the NW and SW areas of the country.

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Reynosa8701

Omg this book is an eye opener I‘m halfway through with it! Have you read it? What are your thoughts! I don‘t care for Amazon now lol!

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Singout
Pickpick

Absolutely gripping: interweaving the story of a woman who went from a house to a “nomadic” life in a trailer with a broader analysis of people in a housing crisis moving to vans and mobile homes, economic and housing challenges that led to this need, how they live as Amazon employees in the parking lot, park staff, or “stealthy” urbanites, and their strong mutually supportive culture.
#Booked2021 #haspictures
#Nonfiction2021 #Friendship

Cinfhen I read this last year and was also completely riveted. I think it was made into a movie 🍿 12mo
TiredLibrarian Loved this. There is a movie with Frances Mcdormand, who's amazing, but the movie sounds quite different from the book. 12mo
Singout @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Not completely centred on friendship, but how authentic friendships emerge from people finding themselves in challenging situations. 11mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Makes perfect sense to me. Great job! 11mo
BarbaraTheBibliophage I loved this book but the movie was just a lens on one small portion of it. 11mo
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Travelling to Northern Ireland again, for a whole week off work (after 3 really busy intense weeks at work). Treated myself to a couple of books at the airport bookshop as a reward to surviving tht last month at work.

Ruthiella Enjoy your time off! 1y
squirrelbrain Have a great trip! (I read Nomadland recently - loved it) 1y
Oryx @squirrelbrain thanks! Yes, I instantly like it from the first few pages. I watched the film a few weeks ago, thought it was excellent. 1y
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Oryx @Ruthiella thank you♥️ 1y
rockpools Enjoy your trip! 1y
Liz_M What a lovely place for a vacation, enjoy! 1y
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vivastory
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#midyearfaves Day 8 It will come as no surprise that this is one of my favorites of the year. I've raved about Bruder's book in several posts. I will say that if you have watched the movie but not read the book, please do read it. There is an entire dimension that is important to the book that is barely addressed in the movie. I can't wait to see what Bruder's next project will be.

Leftcoastzen Totally agree with your review & post ! I know they had to have a more direct story line for a film , the book is vital reading to really comprehend the issues . 1y
BarbaraBB No surprise but well deserved. What a reality. 1y
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Schwifty
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Journalist Jessica Bruder documents the growing class of elderly precariat attempting to escape ever increasing rents for a life on the road, with only the support of other nomads, dodging urban vehicle camping laws and often sacrificing their already dwindling health to work seasonal jobs as sugar beet harvesters or in one of Amazon‘s sprawling fulfillment centers. Bruder adopts the lifestyle herself along the way. Good, but depressing read.

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Macnjen
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Interesting story about the “houseless“; those who live nomadically in the US to survive while working sporadic temporary jobs. I learned a lot and now appreciate and understand the lives these folks live, mostly out of necessity than desire. I listened to it on Audio which might not have been the best telling; I didn't love the narration. The book did seem a bit repetitive as well but overall worth the read.

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Macnjen
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Interesting story about the “houseless“; those who live nomadically in the US to survive while working sporadic temporary jobs. I learned a lot and now appreciate and understand the lives these folks live, mostly out of necessity than desire. I listened to it on Audio which might not have been the best telling; I didn't love the narration. The book did seem a bit repetitive as well but overall worth the read.

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Hooked_on_books
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While I enjoyed this book, it was not as utterly engrossing as I was expecting. I found myself appreciating the information, but then being ok without picking it up for days at a time. It‘s a good window into the financial realities of people being pushed into a nomadic lifestyle and an important window to look through, so I‘m glad it‘s out there.

CharismaRaven13 I didn‘t know this was a book. I saw the movie and loved it. I have to read the book now. 1y
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vivastory
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The individuals profiled in Bruder's unforgettable book might seem #meek but it's their resilience & generosity towards fellow van dwellers that sees them through. As aesthetically pleasing as the movie is, & impressive McDormand's performance, if you haven't read the book I highly recommend.
The following Vulture article perfectly expresses my frustrations with the movie:
https://www.vulture.com/article/nomadland-amazon-warehouse-chloe-zhao.html

Eggs Great choice ! Just finished it yesterday. Probably won‘t see film... 1y
vivastory @Eggs What did you think of the book? I think it's best to skip the movie. 1y
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Eggs I thought it was well done 👍🏼 1y
Eggs @vivastory just read the article. This is why I won‘t see the movie. Would be better as documentary, without fictional characters 1y
vivastory @Eggs I completely agree. Documentarians are able to do so much now & make their work highly stylized while retaining their message, it would have been a much better adaptation. The filmmakers also injected a couple of changes in the movie involving real people from the book that were really baffling & served no purpose. 1y
MicheleinPhilly I just watched the film this weekend after reading the book a few months ago and I was...unimpressed. I don't take issue with the fictionalization of real life people and occurrences, per se, I just felt that nothing much happened. I have no problem with “quiet“ movies, I just felt very emotionally moved by the book and COMPLETELY missed that with the movie. Maybe I was just in a mood. 😉 1y
vivastory @MicheleinPhilly No mood because I had the exact same experience. I think that had I not read the book I would have enjoyed it, but the movie completely romanticized the lives of the van dwellers & glossed over the harsher economic realities. The more I have thought about it the more disappointed I find it. 1y
vivastory @MicheleinPhilly One of the more interesting aspects of the movie is including several people from the book, especially Linda May & Swankie. What I found unnecessary was that they had Swankie dying of brain cancer when she's still very much alive. That plot point felt a bit pointless & even exploitative 1y
Eggs That‘s a strange choice @vivastory . Agree also with your statements @MicheleinPhilly 1y
MicheleinPhilly @vivastory @Eggs It was completely pointless. It felt like a cheap plot device thrown in to make us feel something because all of the emotion was stripped from the book. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 1y
Eggs Agree. The book was a solid authentic journey! Would be fun to read a follow up on the earthship 1y
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Yahui07
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This book is between “pick” and “so-so”. It may be that I was distracted by the recent outside world I found that this book is not as good as what I expected. It is dry sometimes. However, the contents over all are still worth your time!

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squirrelbrain
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#weeklyforecast

Here‘s a small part of my TBR cart (there are TBR shelves as well of course!)

I‘m already more than halfway through Nomadland and loving it. I‘m also going to start on Patsy shortly as that‘s my #doublespin book.

After that I‘m not really sure..... oh, I‘m listening to On Chapel Sands on audio too.

Hope everyone has a great week!

Cathythoughts I thought I‘ll Be Gone In The Dark excellent 1y
Cinfhen I found Nomadland really fascinating/ I‘m not surprised you‘re enjoying it!!! 1y
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squirrelbrain I‘ve actually read that @Cathythoughts - I have it on Kindle but hubby won‘t read e-books so I borrowed it from the library for him to read.... it‘s great isn‘t it? 1y
squirrelbrain I‘m very much looking forward to the Boyne @Cinfhen - I may take it camping when we go..... 1y
Cinfhen Oh, you‘re off camping??? That‘s awesome!!! Enjoy ❤️ 1y
LeahBergen Yay for camping! 👏🏻 1y
squirrelbrain @Cinfhen @LeahBergen - not until the week after next, but a girl needs time to plan which books to take, right?! 1y
TrishB Good choices! Patsy has been on my forecast a couple of times and I‘ve still not read! 1y
BarbaraBB The Boyne is great and I am looking forward to Patsy too. How wonderful you‘ll go camping! 🤍 1y
Caroline2 Ohhhh I really want to read Nomadland too. Looking forward to hearing what you think. 👍 1y
squirrelbrain I loved it @Caroline2 - just haven‘t had time to post a review yet....😬 1y
Caroline2 Oh good! 😊 the whole living in a camper van element is right up our street eh. 😉 I‘m looking forward to the film too. 👍 1y
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BarbaraBB
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This movie! So good. The actress is incredible as is the scenery of course. The truth is raw. Very raw. Sometimes I think the US and Europe don‘t differ that much, sometimes (like now) I feel like they are worlds apart. I must read the book.

merelybookish Excellent movie! 1y
Leftcoastzen Love the movie! the guy in the top hat who plays piano used to own a bookstore called Reader‘s Oasis.He was known as the naked bookseller, just wore a crochet codpiece.He has since passed away.Quartzite,Az (edited) 1y
BarbaraBB @merelybookish Absolutely. So honest and respectful. And that scenery ❤️ 1y
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BarbaraBB @Leftcoastzen Really? Have you met him? Characters were so well casted. 1y
Leftcoastzen Yes ! He was a character for sure !! 1y
Readerann I actually liked the book better than the movie (and I liked both). 1y
sarahbarnes Man, this was an incredible film for sure. I‘m glad you enjoyed it! ❤️ 1y
Tamra I like it too - you can‘t go wrong with McDormand! 1y
peaknit We are watching it right now, very good. 1y
BarbaraBB @Readerann That‘s what @vivastory says too. I must read it! 1y
BarbaraBB @sarahbarnes @Tamra @peaknit She is an amazing actress, but I liked them all. It felt so real and honest. I was really impressed. 1y
peaknit @BarbaraBB “so real and honest”, you nailed her performance. She seems very eccentric in real life, and also in the roles she chooses. 1y
Suet624 You‘ve probably seen my comment on other posts but I‘m with @readerann 1y
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vivastory
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Jessica Bruder documents what appears to be a marginal subculture, vandwellers who travel across the country in assorted vehicles as they work low wage seasonal jobs. As she documents, the numbers of individuals adapting to this lifestyle exploded after the financial crisis of '08. Bruder spent 3 years researching this book & it really shows in the complexity of the people that she portrays. They are not a homogenous economic class forced to👇

vivastory adapt to this existence. They are from varying economic backgrounds who were forced to drastically downsize & head out on the road for an indeterminate period as a survival strategy. As she points out, for many who have adapted this lifestyle they are not waiting for a solution that will allow them to resume their settled lives. This has become their new norm. This shouldn't be romanticized either, as regardless of the friendships & family 1y
vivastory that they have formed, it is nonetheless an enormously difficult & dangerous existence. This is easily one of the best nonfiction books that I have read this year. Now to watch the movie. (edited) 1y
TheKidUpstairs I really want to read this one. The movie was beautifully done, Frances McDormand is absolutely fantastic, I hope you enjoy it! 1y
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vivastory @TheKidUpstairs I'm looking forward to it. Love McDormand! I think you'd like this book, I read nearly the entire thing in today 1y
Addison_Reads This book was one of my favorites last year. I still need to watch the movie though. 1y
vivastory ETA: Just finished the movie & I have very conflicted feelings about it. If I hadn't read the book I would have enjoyed it more, but I have issues with how the treatment of the workers was glossed over in the movie. 1y
vivastory Also, I found it interesting that the movie includes two people in the movie who were featured in the book, but I have mixed feelings over a portrayal of one 1y
BarbaraBB Very nuanced review. I was thinking of starting with the movie. I have so many books tbr. Now I think I should read it and skip the movie 🤷🏻‍♀️ 1y
vivastory @BarbaraBB That would definitely be my recommendation. It's a fairly quick read. 1y
BarbaraBB I‘m sorry. I watched the movie. It was so well done. Your beautiful country. And yet.. I have a thousand questions, don‘t know where to start. So I won‘t and will just ask two: 1) I thought the book is much more about how companies like Amazon treat their employees? 2) I think Swankie and Rosa May (?) were in the book too. Both fascinating women. How were your feelings mixed about them being portrayed? 1y
vivastory @BarbaraBB 1) You are correct. The book is about Amazon, but also how other companies exploit the population that Bruder is writing about. In the movie this was completely glossed over. 2) Linda May & Swankie are both characters in the book, esp Linda May. My issue with the movie is that they have her dying of brain cancer. Well:
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/04/30/swankie-nomadland/
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BarbaraBB That is weird... and unnecessary. Why couldn‘t she live peacefully in Alaska but did she have to die in the movie? Strange. 1y
vivastory @BarbaraBB It really served no purpose whatsoever IMO 1y
Suet624 You certainly didn't see my Facebook posts where I vented about my frustration with the movie. I have handed this book out to so many people because it's an important lesson about capitalism. The Amazon parts in particular. It was probably my favorite nonfiction read a year or two ago. The movie is a completely different animal. I was so disgusted when I finished watching the movie. 1y
vivastory @Suet624 I'm not on Facebook. The more I think about it, the less I like the movie. I think that if it wasn't based on the book, it'd be a decent movie. But so much of the hard realities in the book was romanticized 1y
Suet624 At one point, after having already bitched about the movie vs. the book too many times, I posted Rebecca Solnit's article about the movie. Have you seen the article? https://harpers.org/archive/2014/08/the-end-of-retirement/?fbclid=IwAR2-5DMb3NUb...
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Suet624 Sorry, that was Jessica Bruder's article. Rebecca sent the article out and prefaced it by saying: Whatever you think about Nomadland the film (which I think nothing about because I haven't watched it yet), Nomadland the book by Jessica Bruder is a tough investigation of the victims of our recent economic brutalities, mostly senior citizens living vehicularly and struggling to get by, 1y
Suet624 sometimes forming strong communities and showing great improvisation and determination, but not exactly enjoying their golden years as they intended, and holding it all together with duct-tape and determination that will not overcome old age's and poverty's troubles. People who thought the 2008 financial collapse was over a long time ago need to meet the people Jessica Bruder got to know in this scorching, beautifully written, vivid, disturbing 1y
Suet624 (and occasionally wryly funny) book. Nomadland is a testament both to the generosity and creativity of the victims of our modern-medieval economy, hidden in plain sight, and to the blunt-end brutality that put them there. Is this the best the wealthiest nation on earth can do for those who've already done so much?” 1y
vivastory @Suet624 I haven't seen that article. Thanks for the link. I love Rebecca Solnit, she's easily one of my favorite political thinkers at the moment. Did you see her recent article about what the past 4 years of living under #45 has been like? Brilliant piece 1y
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vivastory
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My current read, a nf about workers forced to travel great distances for difficult temporary work & little pay definitely fits today's prompt.
#migrates #maycharacters @Eggs @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Is this a movie? I think I keep seeing it advertised on ppv 1y
vivastory @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks It is! It won Oscar for best picture. I haven't watched it yet, but from what I know it's a fictionalized version of the stories in this book. Frances McDormand is in it & if I'm not wrong I think she won an Oscar for it too 1y
TravelsWithBooks @vivastory Correct on both! I started watching the movie on Hulu, but it was a bit depressing. I want to go back to it now that I‘m in a better state of mind. 1y
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Liz_M Don't forget Chloé Zhao winning the Oscar for Best Director, the first woman of color and (I think) only the second woman ever to win for Best Director. 1y
vivastory @Liz_M That's fantastic!! I didn't watch the Oscars & only read a little about them, so I was unaware of who had won best director 1y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @vivastory awesome!! Thank you!! 1y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Liz_M yay!!! 🙌🏻 1y
Eggs I too am curious about both book and film! Perfect choice ❣️ 1y
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Lindy
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Journalist Jessica Bruder interviewed seniors who travel between seasonal jobs in the USA, living in cars, vans, motorhomes & trailers. It‘s a huge number of people. Many fell on hard times as a result of the 2008 housing collapse. They refer to themselves as “houseless” rather than homeless. The work is hard & the pay is low: 40 hours a week at minimum wage can add up to as little as $17,000 per year. I‘m keen to see the film. #Audiobook

AmyG The film was great. 1y
Lindy @AmyG I noticed it won an academy award 🏆 1y
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Lindy
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A temp firm called Express Employment Professionals sought labourers for the annual sugar beet harvest. “If you‘re willing to fill out an application, then you‘re hired for the coming season,” the recruiter told me. “We would hire you today.”

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Leftcoastzen
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Could happen to anyone.Folks live on min.wage, or their social security is quite small.If you look at the rents in most cities,there is a tipping point where places become too costly.Though this community looks after each other & are very resourceful, the temporary jobs they move in & out of are physically challenging even for younger folks.The system is a set up for taking advantage of them , they will be moving on.Loved the film too.Essential.👇

Leftcoastzen Just to add , many had good jobs , 401k, homes. But illness, divorce , downturns in the economy &/or the housing market problems played roles . It can change so fast. (edited) 1y
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Heartbreaking and inspiring. Middle aged and seniors eking out an existence on their own terms. The adventure, the ingenuity, the friendships right along the tales of loss, broken bodies and illness and neverending financial worry. Surviving America.

SamAnne Drove through Quartzite last week. I appreciate the community people have found but oh, I found it so depressing. Couldn‘t wait to leave. Loved the movie and want to read the book. 1y
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Leftcoastzen
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#SpringSentiments half way through this book & to say their lives are a little #precarious is an understatement.Many people turn to the road as the reality of affordable housing in our age slips away.Many never had a retirement account or lost all value in their homes during the housing crash .A woman who worked all her life has social security totaling $500. Most follow temp jobs,often the group passes the hat if someone needs a tire or gas .

Eggs Really want to read this 📚! ❤️📕❤️ (edited) 1y
Leftcoastzen @Eggs it‘s good , & there are positives too . Less stuff , a strong community made possible by the internet ( when you can get it) Most love nature & enjoy working and spending more time in it. 1y
AmyG The movie is very good. 1y
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Leftcoastzen @AmyG I loved the movie, so good! 1y
SamAnne Watched the movie and thought it was really good. Am currently roadtripping on vacation from Phoenix back to Spokane. Spent a night in Quartzite, which is in the movie. Oh. My. God. I found it a very sad and depressing place, although clearly people are creating community there. 1y
Leftcoastzen @SamAnne on my trips from SoCal to Phoenix I‘d stop to see the gem & jewelry stores, Readers oasis with the naked bookseller. If you stroll into McDonalds when folks are coming back to winter there , you will see many happy reunions.It goes to show there are many communities not obvious to everyone out there, 😀 (edited) 1y
Eggs @Leftcoastzen It is the perfect choice for many people, at 1 time it appealed to me but now I‘m too old and tired for the rigors of that life. And I‘d miss my kids and grands...💔 1y
Leftcoastzen @SamAnne I meant to mention the naked bookseller was in the movie dressed and in a top hat .He was playing the piano.He passed away not long after film appearance. 1y
SamAnne @Leftcoastzen oh yeah! I remember him. I really enjoyed the movie. 1y
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5feet.of.fury
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This is way more of a bummer than I figured it would be... I don‘t know why I wasn‘t expecting that. They‘re talking about the ways these seniors are exploited working for Amazon and I‘m here.. listening... on audible. 🤐

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ke1lbe1l
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The book was well researched and written but the very brief explicit nod to structural racism 2/3 of the way through the text felt obligatory, and did not make up for the lack of conversation around race and the privilege that whiteness provides for those that live this mobile/van lifestyle.

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March 2021 - read before watch non fiction - really enjoyed and will own. Great to share with friends to discuss things. Should read with evicted

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squirrelbrain
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Today‘s #bookmail 😁👍

The Roasting Tin was a prize from Penguin Bookmarks for reaching a certain badge level. There were 6 books to choose from but I‘d read a couple already and didn‘t fancy some others - this looks rather yummy!

I‘ve wanted to read Nomadland for a while now and don‘t usually like movie tie-in covers but this was cheap(ish) on Amazon so why not?!

Cathythoughts It does look yummy ! And why ( the hell ) not 👍🏻😁 2y
AmyG The movie was excellent. 2y
squirrelbrain I‘d like to watch the movie @AmyG , hence getting the book first. I don‘t watch many films but I think my hubby would like this one - I may even persuade him to read the book too! 2y
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Oryx Really interested to know what nomadland is like. Subject sounds really fascinating and I really want to watch the film. 2y
Oryx I'm due a book from bookmarks too - hopefully they get to me soon! I know they had a backlog. 2y
squirrelbrain I didn‘t think I was due one @Oryx - maybe I got yours instead?! 😁 2y
LeahBergen I love one-pan meals. 👍🏻 2y
MicheleinPhilly @LeahBergen 1-pan/1-pot meals are such a lifesaver. 2y
Megabooks Really enjoyed Nomadland as an audiobook! Haven‘t watched the movie yet 2y
Oryx I messaged bookmarks and they sent me an email about a book this morning 😊. I went for the Jo Nesbo one - not really my thing, but it sounded ok and I can give to my mum afterwards (she likes anything with a murder...). 2y
squirrelbrain That‘s great news @Oryx ! I‘ve only read one Jo Nesbo and didn‘t like it so that‘s why I skipped that one..... I was going to get another copy of the Richard Osman one to give to someone but decided I‘d be greedy and order one for me, myself and I instead! 2y
Oryx I just bought my mum the Richard Osman a few weeks ago, so I'm planning on reading her copy - otherwise I'd have got that one. 2y
Caroline2 Oh yes!! I really want to read/watch Nomadland too. I ended up choosing The Porpoise from bookmarks. But it doesn‘t have v good reviews on Litsy.... 😬 wishing I‘d got the girl with the mousing voice now. 🤦‍♀️ 1y
Caroline2 Mousing?!?! I meant Louding!! Lol 1y
squirrelbrain I nearly went for The Girl With... @Caroline2 but I have it on Kindle already so.... 1y
Caroline2 Think it‘ll be the first book I get once I‘ve got space on my shelves. 😉 1y
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amyf0x
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Bruder tells the fascinating story of the many - often older - Americans who live in trailers, RVs and cars, by choice or by necessity, and travel across the country for work, camaraderie and adventure.

Read March 24-29
Rated 4.5/5 ⭐️
Book 19/60

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cant_i'm_booked
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A traveling journalist peels off the veneer of American “middle class coziness“ and reveals a particularly interesting subculture whose members attempt to minimize debt and omit rent by living in camper vans, RVs, truck beds and cars. This account relates the joys of the freedom living off-grid, but also the desperate lows of trying to sustain oneself in an economy that, for 98% of its citizenry, demands much but offers little in return.

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LikelyLibrarian
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At times, inspiring and anxiety provoking.

#booked2021
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Readswithcoffee
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Interesting book. I‘ve must admit that I didn‘t realize there were so many older adults following seasonal work to survive. Some of the jobs sound brutal, especially for older people. I found it intriguing that many of those who have embraced this lifestyle don‘t consider themselves to be homeless, but rather “houseless” and it is an important distinction for them.

Readswithcoffee I had never heard of this book until I watched the movie. Now that I‘ve listened to the book, I‘m going to rewatch the movie. 2y
llcoolnate Lived in an RV for a short amount of time. Haven't read the book and I already don't envy them 😬 2y
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Brooke_H
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I finally braved Target to spend a gift card I‘ve had forever!

Tamra Nice! 2y
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MicheleinPhilly
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This took me quite a while to read considering its length. I could only digest it in bits and pieces and then had to set it aside for something less depressing. I greatly appreciated the care Bruder took with her subjects and only wish our country had shown them the same. Very sobering.

Prairiegirl_reading Sounds very interesting and something I definitely can‘t deal with right now. Good for you for finishing. There is an adaptation (not sure if it‘s a movie or limited series or what), Frances Mcdormand is the star. I‘m wondering if that might be easier to digest. 2y
MicheleinPhilly @Prairiegirl_reading It‘s a film. I‘ve had this book for a bit but the adaptation is what prompted me to tackle this now. You know, that pesky “must read before watching” quirk. I‘ve heard nothing but raves for it so I am looking forward to it and seeing how it compares. 2y
Prairiegirl_reading @MicheleinPhilly I definitely feel that way too but I‘ll watch something I know I‘ll never get to. Lol 2y
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Betty The movie won Best Director and Best Film on the Golden Globes tonight. You had to read the book in bits and pieces; I‘m the same way about the movie —- needed to take a break after 30 or 45 minutes of watching, then I go back to it. 2y
Suet624 Maybe you saw my comments about my disappointment in the movie? I loved this book. A must read. (edited) 2y
MicheleinPhilly @Suet624 I still haven‘t watched the film but I‘ve heard nothing but raves. What didn‘t you like about it? 2y
Suet624 I just realized I wrote about my displeasure on facebook. Not here. Herr is an article that talks about it more succinctly than I ever could: https://www.vulture.com/article/nomadland-amazon-warehouse-chloe-zhao.html?fbcli... 2y
Suet624 I think it completely missed the point of the book: Capitalism and what it does to a society. About Amazon. About the modern day version of grapes of wrath. The movie just focuses on modern day nomads which is entirely different. 2y
Suet624 This book was an important piece of work and I thought the movie did a disservice to the book. 2y
MicheleinPhilly @Suet624 Very interesting. I hope to watch it soon and will let you know what I think. 2y
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Anyone seen both the film and read the book? How do they compare?

I just watched the movie because I love McDormand‘s acting! Now I‘m intrigued by the book - clearly the screen writer had to create a composite character to capture the essence of older American van life.

I recommend the film - it‘s out on Hulu. Very contemplative.

Jess I think I may watch this tonight. 2y
Tamra @Jess 👍🏾 I hope you like it! 2y
EKonrad Just watched this movie. Loved it but don‘t know much about the book. Definitely an interesting topic. 2y
Tamra @EKonrad I‘d like to thumb thru the book now. It is definitely interesting - I knew vanlife was a thing, but didn‘t know there was a community of older Americans following seasonal jobs. 2y
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The movie is on Hulu.

https://youtu.be/6sxCFZ8_d84

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I had no idea they made a movie out of this book. It‘s such a good book. Frances McDormand plays one of the individuals the book follows as she navigates van life and working at Amazon. I never thought they could make a movie from this, but the trailer looks like they‘ve done a great job. https://youtu.be/6sxCFZ8_d84

Jeg Loved the movie. Didn‘t realise it was a book. 2y
Tamra Will put it on my list. (edited) 2y
Suet624 @Jeg oh, it‘s quite a book. I handed it out to all my friends. It was a book that made my blood boil about the effects of the 2008 financial crisis and highlighted the atrocities of working at Amazon. It looks as though the film is a bit softer on those themes than the book. 2y
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tenar Wow, thanks for putting this on my radar! The film looks beautiful, and after following Amazon‘s attempts to suppress the union vote in Alabama, the book is certainly something I‘d like to read. 2y
Jeg After the movie I was left with a sad frustrated feeling. Maybe angry too. 2y
Suet624 @tenar the things that the book reveals about Amazon are infuriating. 2y
Suet624 @Jeg I wondered if it would carry that feeling in the movie. How did you see the movie? Oh, I just saw it will be in Hulu in mid-February. (edited) 2y
Leftcoastzen I wanna see it !need to read the book. 2y
Jeg I saw it at our local cinema here in a suburb of Perth . I‘m pretty sure they used lots of “ real “ people in the filming. It was a bit like a documentary. At the end during the credits I think they showed photos and what happened to these people. Very moving. 2y
BarbaraBB Stacked of course! 2y
Megabooks Nomadland (the book) was fantastic. Haven‘t seen the movie. If you want to know more about working at Amazon (and the frustrations of other low wage jobs in the digital era) check out 2y
tenar @Megabooks Also stacked! Thank you for sharing! 2y
MicheleinPhilly I‘m reading this now in small doses each day. 2y
Suet624 @Leftcoastzen It's going to be on Hulu in mid-February. I'm curious to see how much they put in about Amazon. The fact that Amazon chose to pay for an ambulance to stay full time at the warehouse rather than put in air-conditioning still pisses me off. 2y
Suet624 @BarbaraBB I'm glad the book will get even more attention now and I hope people realize what spending their money at Amazon really looks like. 2y
Suet624 @Megabooks I think I stacked On The Clock specifically because of your earlier review. Definitely want to read it. 2y
Suet624 @MicheleinPhilly Your thoughts so far? 2y
Leftcoastzen Well in Az they have no choice on the air conditioning, but I‘ve read about other areas that need it in summer , & Amazon won‘t put it in. 2y
MicheleinPhilly Thus far mainly sadness that people were sold a bill of goods re: their retirement years and now these people are working 10-12 hour days doing back-breaking physical labor. I can see some of the attraction in not being beholden to a mortgage payment or rent, but the uncertainty and exploitation is deeply unsettling. 2y
Suet624 @MicheleinPhilly Yes, exactly. I was glad to see that someone wrote about this because at the time I think it was unreported or underreported. I gave it to someone who is very egocentric and assumes that people in poverty just made bad choices. With this book he could finally relate to the issue because he saw it was something that could happen to him. 2y
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Pickpick

A chilling reminder that the capitalist system that we live in can disappoint us.

Read this for #nonfiction2021 #somethingaboutcommunity . I really am amazed at how people bounce back and form communities in the face of adversity.

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I put off reading this because I was afraid it would be too depressing. Bruder reports on seniors living in vans & RVs, unable to retire after the 2009 market crash, working low-wage jobs around the US.

However, despite the sometimes harsh conditions, the people she talked to had a fairly upbeat attitude about their situation. She spends a lot of time with Linda, an infectiously funny senior. Bruder even takes on van life herself for a bit.

JenReadsAlot I enjoyed this one. 2y
Megabooks @JenReadsAlot 👍🏻👍🏻 2y
Reviewsbylola I thought this one was great! 2y
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My latest read still doesn‘t give me a bingo! I should read more strategically. I can‘t remember who created the bingo card, but I love all I‘ve learned this year reading #nonfiction. Now to focus on a BINGO!

MallenNC I don‘t have a Bingo on my card yet either! @Riveted_Reader_Melissa made this card. 2y
Amandajoy @MallenNC I thought that‘s who made it! Thanks for reminding me! And there‘s still time this year for a bingo 😉 (edited) 2y
MallenNC @Amandajoy You are right. I think I‘ll get at least one row before the year is up. Good luck on your card! 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yes, It was me....sorry for making it so intense. I also am all over my board and don‘t have bingo yet either if it helps.🤪 2y
Amandajoy @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I wouldn‘t say it‘s intense, just challenging! I have books picked out for every square, just not enough time to read them! 2y
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#Nonfiction2020 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa

Before reading this book, I wasn't aware of the percentage of Americans who lived a nomad lifestyle in order to survive. This book has real information, wonderful heartfelt human stories, and it's also full of happiness and hope. Breaking free of the commercialism of our society is something I strive daily to do, and reading about others who share similar views was refreshing.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa This one is on my lost to read this year too! 🤞 2y
mirnass Sounds interesting! 2y
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This book is full of stories that may become more common in 2020 or 2021. People who pare life down to a mobile home or vehicle are called houseless. Not homeless, in their estimation. But without brick and mortar places of residence. It started with retirees. But I fear our “American Dream” is forcing more people into this lifestyle.

Full review http://www.TheBibliophage.com
#thebibliophage2020 #nonfictionchallenge2020 #aboutsocialsafetynet

JanuarieTimewalker13 Oh sounds great!! I follow a lot of the van lifers on YT. Fascinating. Some people even live in minivans that they convert. 2y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @JanuarieTimewalker13 It is good! Now if I go over to YT for videos, I may get lost and not come out for days ... 2y
JanuarieTimewalker13 Hahaha!! True!! 2y
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TheBookHippie I follow a ton of these by choice folks for the past years as it is also my plan in 5 years. As for the not by choice I‘ve been bringing bread and books to “camps” during summers for workers who work field here and we are all wondering how we can get the place occupancy year round and jobs and all other ideas .. so it was very interesting to get this in my inbox today. 2y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @TheBookHippie All of this is so cool! I‘m excited you want to do this. And impressed—but not surprised—that you‘re helping those you can. 2y
TheBookHippie @BarbaraTheBibliophage Also why I yell at news daily ... we have huge migrant camps here and the last four years have been brutal to say the least. (edited) 2y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @TheBookHippie I can only imagine ... 2y
Crazeedi @BarbaraTheBibliophage I watched a special about a girl who decided to live in something like this and travel. She actually started out in her van! 2y
Crazeedi @BarbaraTheBibliophage and I think shes now making a living blogging about her life! 2y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Crazeedi I‘ve seen some shows like that also. I don‘t know how people make enough just by blogging ... but people do, I think. 2y
Crazeedi @BarbaraTheBibliophage yes, I dont know how that's possible! But I guess with enough sponsors 2y
Suet624 I loved this book. It wasn‘t the “living in the RV” that got me though. It was the section on Amazon that I have been talking about ever since I read it. Just an awful company. (edited) 2y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Suet624 I agree. I buy way more from them than I‘m comfortable with. Especially since the pandemic. 2y
Suet624 Haha. I just had to fix my typo. I can‘t remember he last time I ordered from amazon. I just won‘t do it. Sometimes I go in to see what company they might be using and then order directly through that smaller company. 2y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Suet624 The typo was funny though! Yes, I try to do that as much as I can also. Company profit margins are so low as it is, but Amazon gives them a platform to be seen that‘s expensive. It‘s a tough call for them. 2y
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Here‘s my garden gnome who keeps this little container garden on our back deck in order. He‘s my “gnome-land” opposite of my newest audiobook, Nomadland. Bad pun ... 😝

#aboutsocialsecurity #nonfictionchallenge2020 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa

p.s. then I saw that @Cinfhen just read this for the same prompt ... 🤣😍

Texreader 🤣🤣🤣 2y
Smarkies Noting this down for that prompt as I don't have anything for that now. 2y
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Cinfhen I love your little gnome 🥰and this book was super interesting!!! I‘m still thinking about it 😌hope you enjoy it, I think it‘s right in your reading zone (edited) 2y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @Cinfhen I think it will be too! Thanks 2y
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For many hardworking Americans who have aged out of the workforce & can no longer afford housing a new subculture is presenting itself- nomad living. They‘ve given up a permanent structure and are now living in vehicles. Known as camper work force, they traverse the country taking seasonal jobs at campgrounds, fairs, amusement parks, and warehouse jobs for companies like Amazon. These seniors are a new type of “vanily” (play on family)👇🏽

Cinfhen They are an online community that shares survival tips, job opportunities, swap meets, and friendship for those who are untethered. Both sad and touching this book was very interesting. My only complaint the author seemed to add too much page fillers with unnecessary content which I found distracting and not needed. #NonFiction2020 2y
Reviewsbylola I enjoyed this one and it tied in well to another book I read recently. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Reviewsbylola Thanks for the recommendation, I‘m adding that one to my to-read list too! (edited) 2y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Cinfhen Sounds interesting, and since you clued me in that Hoopla has it on audiobook, I‘ll definitely check it out sooner rather than later. 2y
squirrelbrain Oh I think I need to read / listen to this. 2y
KateFulfordAuthor Great review thanks! 2y
CarolynM Great review, but what a sad state of affairs😢 2y
BarbaraBB Echoing @CarolynM , how sad to have worked all your life and never be able to rest and have a comfortable life. 2y
Suet624 @BarbaraBB many of these folks lost their money during the 2008 recession. While the banks got their bailouts, these folks had to change their lives completely with their retirement funds decimated. Infuriating. 2y
Suet624 Cindy, I was so excited when I saw that you had read this book. I think everyone should read this book and I push it on friends who use Amazon just so they‘ll know how horrid that company is. 2y
BarbaraBB @Suet624 That is so unfair. Aren‘t there government funded retirement allowances? 2y
Suet624 @BarbaraBB most people get social security, but it‘s not a lot of money each month. 2y
Cinfhen I know @Megabooks also liked that tagged book @Reviewsbylola I intend to read soon @Riveted_Reader_Melissa 2y
Cinfhen Reading about Amazon was so disheartening @Suet624 I‘m such a consumer but after reading this book I‘m definitely going to think twice before I visit Amazon 2y
Cinfhen It really is a sad state of affairs @CarolynM @BarbaraBB America is not the country everyone believes it to be 😪This was an eye opening read @KateFulfordAuthor 2y
Cinfhen As you own a camper @squirrelbrain I think you‘d find this subculture fascinating 2y
Suet624 Sometimes I‘ll look on Amazon to see if there are small companies that are using the site to sell their products. If so, I go directly to the small company‘s website and order directly from them. I never order from Amazon. 2y
Cinfhen Ahhh, that‘s a good idea @Suet624 😊 2y
squirrelbrain Yes, I certainly will @Cinfhen. I shall try to find a copy somewhere.... 2y
BarbaraBB Sadly it isn‘t (America I mean), I also realized that when travelling there last summer. So much poverty and especially inequality, it really shocked me. And @Suet624 I have boycotted Amazon too, long ago 💕 2y
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Current #Audiobook 🎧 Really interesting... a look at camper workers / people who have given up owning/living in a house & instead invest in “wheel”-estate...living full time in RVs. I‘m enjoying @Riveted_Reader_Melissa thanks for the suggestion ♥️🚍#NonfictionChallenge2020 #AboutSocialSecurity

marleed Sounds fascinating. I could not do this because I couldn‘t be trusted in the driver‘s seat. 2y
BarbaraBB Definitely intriguing. I can see the charm of living that way forever and travel the world but in reality it would probably drive me nuts 😀😘 2y
Cinfhen It‘s not as “glamorous” as it sounds @marleed @BarbaraBB for most of these people they are no longer able to afford housing and because of their age ( most are over 65) they can‘t find good steady employment so they travel around the US looking for seasonal jobs. It‘s really fascinating but pretty sad/depressing 😞 It‘s very informative 2y
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BarbaraBB Oh that is really sad indeed. Like the Grapes of Wrath... (edited) 2y
Megabooks I tried to listen to this but I was in a bad headspace and ended up crying a lot. Maybe someday. 2y
Cinfhen I definitely think this is in your wheelhouse @Megabooks my only complaint... it contains too much page filler😬otherwise it‘s really interesting #Hoopla 2y
Hooked_on_books I ran into a couple of folks with this lifestyle when I lived in Oregon. The ones I met had a pretty set pattern of where they would go at various times of year. It was interesting chatting with them but made it rather challenging to plan surgery. 2y
Cinfhen Yes @Hooked_on_books different industries hire seasonal workers throughout the year so these camper force workers do have an idea of where to dwell....as for surgery most don‘t have medical insurance so they cross into Mexico for all medical/dental needs. 2y
Hooked_on_books If I remember right, the people I saw were Medicare, so at least they had insurance. It‘s definitely a hidden population. That‘s the thing about medicine—you really see a cross-section of society. It‘s eye-opening. 2y
Cinfhen Interesting about Medicare / a few narratives do follow the over 70 @Hooked_on_books surprisingly there is lots of hopefulness as well (edited) 2y
TheAromaofBooks There are a lot of YouTube videos about this population as well, as well as younger folks doing the same thing in an attempt to save money and “live small“ - love seeing school bus conversions especially. I don't think it's for me (could I possibly fit all my books in a motorhome?!) but it does have its attractions. 2y
Cinfhen I‘ll have to check out YouTube / thanks @TheAromaofBooks ♥️ 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa You are welcome, glad you are finding it interesting. 2y
Suet624 @Hooked_on_books the thing about Medicare is that it costs $$$. Some people can‘t afford it. 2y
Hooked_on_books @Suet624 Medicare is essentially given to everyone over 65 and to those with certain health issues. Premiums are based on income or paid by Medicaid, if the person qualifies. It typically covers 80% of the cost and if people don‘t have a supplemental insurance then yes, there are people who can‘t cover that 20%. I was in health care for almost 20 years and learned far more about insurance than I ever expected to know, though it‘s useful. (edited) 2y
Suet624 @Hooked_on_books I‘m about to sign up for Medicare. Only the hospital portion is free. Part B which covers the doctor‘s visits costs $144 a month. Prescriptions and any supplemental coverage is an additional cost.I‘m currently on Medicaid and pay nothing. So in my case Medicare is a new cost that strains my very small budget. 2y
Hooked_on_books @Suet624 I of course can only speak to what I saw as a surgeon. Many of my patients had both Medicare and Medicaid, so they had no out of pocket costs. BUT if you tried to authorize a procedure Medicare approves and Medicaid doesn‘t, it‘s a challenge, because you aren‘t allowed to bill Medicaid patients (not in Oregon anyway). So the hospital typically lets it go forward and just eats the 20% cost. 2y
Hooked_on_books @Suet624 We were writing at the same time. I can only speak to Oregon, where you would not be kicked off Medicaid when you went on Medicare. You‘d have both and therefore no costs. But every state has different rules. Be sure you know your states rules, since you definitely want the double coverage if you qualify. 2y
Suet624 @Hooked_on_books Yes. Thanks. I‘m already working on that. 😊 Just a reminder though that saying Medicare is free would be inaccurate and might confuse future recipients. I had no idea until I started to enroll. 2y
Crazeedi @Suet624 yep the part B premium is a stress on a limited income for hubby and i 2y
Suet624 @Crazeedi Diane, are you paying for part d too? I‘m trying to decide on that. 2y
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#N is for "Nomadland" about new community of nomads: RV and van-dwelling migrant laborers, or "workampers" often older who due to economics, are instead of traveling the country in RVs for pleasure, are living in them and trying to find the work they can to survive.
#30JuneBooks @howjessreads

Suet624 I have purchased this book for so many of my friends. It‘s a must read. 3y
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This book makes me 😢 these are some instagram pics of the Rubber Tramp Rendezvous, a rally for vandwellers. The sections on Amazon‘s CamperForce are particularly infuriating. #currentlyreading Heading out for my walk shortly! #litsywalkers I am grateful for my house, my camera, and blueberries #grateful21

Eggs Fascinating! 3y
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