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Okay#LMPBC #Round7 #GroupI today was crazy so I'm just now able to post my choices. I'll tag them in the comments as well. 4 contemporary and 2 classics. I'm kind of leaning towards the tagged book, Signs Preceding the End of the World, but let me know what you all prefer!

lele1432 Mexican literature. A young woman must traverse the Mexican-US border to find her brother. (edited) 1w
lele1432 German literature. I was first introduced to Stefan Zweig through another #NYRB title I read for the #NYRBBookClub, Chess Story. I absolutely loved it. My only 5 star read so far this year. So I've been wanting to try another one of his works. 1w
lele1432 Hebrew literature. This one is a mystery concerning a hit-and-run. 1w
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lele1432 Another Spanish translation. We decided not to do The Shape of Ruins due to length, but I actually have a copy of this shorter title by the same author. It's intriguing as it deals with a political cartoonist who could ruin politicians' careers with his art. 1w
lele1432 Classic Indian literature. Described as three stories of forbidden love. Tagore received the Nobel Prize in Literature, the first Asian Nobel Laureate according to Amazon. He was also a poet. 1w
lele1432 I've been interested in this title for a while now, but it borders on Argentinian folklore/gothic horror, so probably not for the faint of heart. 1w
Carolyn11215 I‘d love to read Signs Preceding...but would be happy with any of these! 7d
lele1432 @Carolyn11215 okay great! If @rachelm and @aeeklund don't object, I'll go with that one! (edited) 6d
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The Other | Thomas Tryon
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Perfect fall weather today 🙌🏻 and perfect time of year to ready this creepy book...

vivastory I have the feeling this one will be a hit with the group 1w
LeahBergen What a pretty photo 😍 1w
Reviewsbylola I still need to read this. 1w
BarbaraBB I am so looking forward to this one! 1w
Mdargusch Great photo and that cover is very creepy. 4d
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Harvest HOme | Thomas Tryon
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“Don‘t finish it when you‘re home alone” my mother said. Being 17, did I listen? No. Scared the 💩 out of me. #harvest #fallisbooked @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @OriginalCyn620

ErickaS_Flyleafunfurled That‘s a good endorsement! 1w
batsy Now just a wee bit nervous about reading Tryon's The Other for #NYRBbookclub this month 😬😅 1w
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BookNAround I haven‘t read another Thomas Tryon book since The Other permanently traumatized me decades ago. 1w
Lcsmcat @BookNAround I confess this is the only Tryon I‘ve read. 1w
Lcsmcat @batsy I‘m a bit of a wimp when it comes to that, so don‘t worry. 1w
OriginalCyn620 😂🖤🍁 1w
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Two people have yet to vote, but with 4 more votes than second place, The Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne has been voted as the November selection for #NYRBBookClub I'm looking forward to reading this one with my co-host @Leftcoastzen & discussing!

sisilia Yay! I‘m looking forward to the discussion ❤️ 2w
Suet624 Yippee! By the way, i didn‘t want to read a scary story, especially one that involved twins (seeing as I have twins!) so I‘ll be skipping October‘s read. Looking forward to hearing all about it though. 2w
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batsy Whooo! 🎉 2w
sprainedbrain Oh awesome! 2w
Reviewsbylola 🙌🏻🙌🏻🥳🥳 2w
GatheringBooks enjoy the discussion! will be skipping this one again, my deepest apologies. will be more constant by next year as i can read books by male authors by then. 2w
merelybookish Nice! Turns out I already have a copy of this (the New Canadian Library edition) so I'm set! 👍 And @Suet624 I may also skip the October read...because horror freaks me out. 😬 2w
LeahBergen Yayyyy! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 And @Suet624 and @merelybookish - no worries! I think we‘ll all be skipping a few as our wonderful little club carries on. I won‘t be offended! 😆😆 2w
merelybookish @LeahBergen Thank you! Its a perfect October pick. I'm just a big scardy cat. 2w
youneverarrived Looking forward to it 😁 2w
Cathythoughts I‘d like to read this too. The movie was great. Stacked 2w
sisilia @Cathythoughts I want to see the movie! Maggie Smith as Judith 😍 2w
BarbaraBB Thanks for organizing! Looking forward to it! 2w
saresmoore 🙌 I‘m excited! 2w
emilyhaldi Sorry I‘ve been MIA for a few days 😅 but my vote would have been for this book 😉 can‘t wait!! 2w
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Dark Tales | Shirley Jackson
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This is more a “pile of choices” for October than a strict TBR. I really want to get to some more Shirley Jackson as I loved both We Have Always Lived in the Castle and The Haunting of Hill House so much.

I will definitely be reading The Other as it‘s my pick for our #NYRBBookClub. 😄

#OctoberTBR #FallIsBooked
#SpookyTBR #ScreamathonPhotoChallenge #Screamathon

OriginalCyn620 👌🏻📚🖤 2w
4thhouseontheleft Look at all of those Shirley Jackson's! 😍 😍 2w
JenniferP I loved Hangsaman! 2w
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Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks 🧡🖤🧡🖤 2w
sprainedbrain I have a Jackson on my tbr for this month, too! 2w
Ilovemyfreckles I just started The Other! 2w
LeahBergen @Ilovemyfreckles I read the first few pages and I think it‘s going to be good! Let me know how you like it. 😘 2w
Mdargusch I just finished Dark Tales and I highly recommend! 1w
LeahBergen @Mdargusch Good to hear! Are you going to read any other spooky ones this month? 1w
Mdargusch Doubtful but let me know if there‘s one you highly recommend. 1w
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Apartment in Athens | Glenway Wescott
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Happy October! These are my picks for November selection of #NYRBBookClub . Time for the club to vote.🙂
And thanks to @Aimeesue and @Billypar for joining the conversation on the Hardwick, I really enjoyed your insights!Voting open to original members till we get through the first round, right @vivastory ?

LeahBergen Oooo, I love voting day!! These all sound SO GOOD. I‘m going to have to go for the one I‘ve wanted to read for ages now 2w
Aimeesue Oh, I do apologise for busting in uninvited. I didn't realize this was a sort of closed group. I can see why, given the voting, though. A thousand apologies! 2w
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Leftcoastzen @Aimeesue Oh , please stay ! We are a welcoming group, really enjoyed your input. 2w
Aimeesue @Leftcoastzen I will definitely continue to follow along! I just don't want to step on anyone's toes. Lovely discush! 2w
LeahBergen @Aimeesue Oh, not at all! The discussion is open to everyone on Litsy. It‘s only the voting that is restricted to this group of people. I believe @vivastory is going to open the group up to new (voting) members when this first round of picks is finished. Keep reading with us! 😘 2w
saresmoore I just have to vote for Judith Hearne because my husband‘s name is Bryan Moore! 😄 2w
Rachel_nyc Another difficult choice! I‘ve added all to my TBR but I‘ll vote for 2w
Reviewsbylola I‘m mostly voting for the cover. 🤣🤣 2w
mklong They all look good, but this one is just too beautiful to pass up (edited) 2w
batsy So exciting, I too love voting day 😁 They all look amazing but my vote is for the one I've been meaning to read for awhile 2w
Leftcoastzen I apologize to @sisilia because I know she‘s read this but I just loved the description,though I really want to read them all (not voting not sure if I‘m allowed cuz I picked just mentioning) (edited) 2w
sisilia Hahaha no worries @Leftcoastzen 😘 I really loved Judith Hearne; amazing writing and story. And i enjoy the discussions with you guys... not to forget that I have many other NYRB titles in my TBR 🙈 2w
vivastory @Aimeesue I've greatly enjoyed your insights in our discussions. I hope you continue to chime in & once the group opens up after this round I hope you join! 2w
batsy @GatheringBooks That one sounds so good. 2w
vivastory These all sound great! I'm voting for 2w
BarbaraBB Such a great selection, thanks @Leftcoastzen ! My vote is for 2w
merelybookish Happy to read any of them but my vote goes to 2w
youneverarrived Great choices! They all sound interesting. My choice is 2w
MicheleinPhilly 🤔 My vote is for 2w
Aimeesue @vivastory @LeahBergen I‘ll happily continue to read along! I've been in a couple closed groups in the past, and I understand the need -you can't have random everybodies showing up to vote and then vanish - so I wanted to make sure! (edited) 2w
Liz_M Am I too late? If I'm not too late I vote for The Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne! 2w
Leftcoastzen Hey @vivastory do I vote or cuz I picked them ,no? 2w
vivastory @Leftcoastzen No, the person who makes the selections should not vote, unless there's a tie 2w
sprainedbrain If I‘m not too late, I vote for 2w
vivastory @sprainedbrain nope! In fact your vote helped determined the winner 😂 2w
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The Other | Thomas Tryon
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Thanks to @youneverarrived for co-hosting #NYRBBookClub September's selection. Thanks to everyone in the group for a thorough & lively discussion yesterday! I'm looking forward to co-hosting October with one of the first Littens I ever interacted with @LeahBergen I can't wait to see your choices for November @Leftcoastzen !

MicheleinPhilly I will read this one! I‘ve been slacking BIGLY. 2w
GatheringBooks Thanks for this! Unfortunately, I will have to skip this title again because of our #WomenReadWomen2019 theme, but will still follow closely and watch from afar, until the next title. 2w
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saresmoore @MicheleinPhilly (Me too.) I‘m looking forward to this one, though! 2w
MicheleinPhilly @saresmoore I‘ve actually read this one before. It‘s SOOOO good. 2w
batsy Thank you! Can't wait to read this one! It's been TBR for ever so long 😆 2w
Aimeesue Could you add me to the group to be tagged list, if such a thing exists? I'd like to keep reading with y'all, but I know I'll forget if I don't see the posts. Thanks! 2w
Leftcoastzen The pressures on ! 2w
LeahBergen Yessss! I can‘t wait, my long-time Litsy chum! 😘 2w
sprainedbrain Ughhh... this one is still on hold and I‘m getting nervous! 2w
sisilia I‘m a bit scared to read this. Must I put it in the freezer when things go wild? 😅@vivastory @MicheleinPhilly @saresmoore @batsy @Aimeesue @Leftcoastzen @Liz_M @LeahBergen @sprainedbrain 2w
sprainedbrain @sisilia the freezer is always an option! 😂 2w
Leftcoastzen @sisilia 😂Freezer book! I may have to do that!This book has been on my radar for years , glad I have some reading partners for it. 2w
Leftcoastzen @sprainedbrain if you have a little paperback exchange in your town,the old mass market might be sitting there. 2w
sprainedbrain @Leftcoastzen I‘m thinking pretty seriously about doing the Audible free trial and listening to it. 😬 2w
Leftcoastzen @sprainedbrain understand your frustration, I don‘t have audible cuz I don‘t listen enough to make it pay..free trial tempting when you are in a jam. 2w
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Sleepless Nights | Elizabeth Hardwick
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#nyrbbookclub Question 5 of 5.

Would you agree that the novel is “a vision of a radical new kind of writing, one suited to a woman‘s body and language and experience outside of the primarily masculine narrative tropes of the past”?

BarbaraBB No I think that‘s a bit exaggerated. It was 1979. It made me think of works by Simone de Beauvoir written much earlier. I do prefer De Beauvoir though. 2w
Suet624 Wow! That feels super-exaggerated. I agree with @BarbaraBB 2w
lele1432 I have no idea lol. I didn‘t really get the feeling it was more “suited to a woman‘s body,” but I did find it unique and refreshing at times. 2w
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Liz_M @lele1432 Right! I like the idea that it is written to escape masculine tropes, but in this era, I don't think tropes are tied to a physical body -- masculinity is cultural, not physical. 2w
Liz_M Also, I don't know how "new" it is either. It doesn't feel more radical or experimental than 2w
Leftcoastzen I agree with @Liz_M and @BarbaraBB Women have been writing their own world view for years forever subverting the masculine cultural gaze. 2w
lele1432 @Liz_M very true! 2w
sisilia What?! Lol 😅 No, I didn‘t even find anything special about it. 2w
merelybookish Wow! I don't even understand that! 😂 It made.me think of Mona Awad's Bunny when people in the MFA program keep talking about how to write the body. And the MC is like WTF? 2w
Liz_M @sisilia Ha! :-)) 2w
batsy I do think it's interesting to consider if the style is kind of radical. Was it kind of new & experimental at the time & place of publication? Coz in other times, languages, & cultures women might have been experimenting for a long time (thinking of Clarice Lispector, or even the Tale of Genji!). Like @merelybookish made a good point in the comments elsewhere that Hardwick was doing autofiction before it became the done thing. 👇🏽 2w
batsy But I agree with others that I don't think it's radically suited to only women's experiences, as such. Or the way women inhabit their bodies. That seems a wee bit hyperbolic :) Is that quote from the NYRB intro to the book? (I read a different edition.) 2w
batsy @sisilia 😅😅 2w
vivastory @batsy I think it might be from the appreciation piece by Groff. I recall reading it while researching Hardwick 2w
batsy @vivastory Thanks! I remember reading that Groff article awhile ago before I read the book; I'll have to give it another close read 🙂 2w
GatheringBooks Again, this is unappreciative me not seeing what the critics are jubilant about. I understand that it may be somewhat diff compared to other contemporary works published at the time - but @BarbaraBB is right about De Beauvoir. I am sure there are also other female novelists not from the US like @batsy referenced Genji who have also written nuanced narrative but with a semblance of structure. I am actually thinking now of Gertrude Stein & Anais Nin 2w
BarbaraBB Thanks @youneverarrived and @vivastory for coming up with these great questions and hosting again! 💕 2w
youneverarrived @BarbaraBB thanks for joining in 😁 2w
Billypar Yes, this was a great discussion, well done @youneverarrived and @vivastory 👏👏 A fun first NYRB club discussion for me- looking forward to future months! 2w
youneverarrived @Billypar I‘m glad you joined in. Great, insightful comments from you and all 😁 2w
DrexEdit Sorry I missed the discussion! It was a terrific one. I don't have anything to add. I can tell I'm going to have to be better prepared with this group. 😁👍📚 2w
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Sleepless Nights | Elizabeth Hardwick
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#nyrbbookclub Question 4 of 5.

Hardwick said, "I remember that I started writing Sleepless Nights because of a single line. The line was: “Now I will start my novel, but I don‘t know whether to call myself I or she.” In autofiction what percentage of the book should focus on the protagonist?

vivastory I think this struggle is present throughout the book. Hardwick doesn't seem as interested in a finished representation, as much as the process. I can see why poetry appealed to her so strongly. There was also the discursive attraction that the essay form offers. 2w
BarbaraBB I don‘t know the answer but I did think it was an interesting question she asked herself. 2w
vivastory @BarbaraBB Questions seem to appeal to Hardwick more than any attempt at definitions... that doesn't always work for me 2w
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lele1432 I would think autofiction would focus mainly on the protagonist, but since this seemed to be more than just autofiction, with her observations and relating stories of others, this didn‘t really follow that format. 2w
vivastory @lele1432 Completely agree! 2w
Billypar Yes, good point @lele1432 The Guardian article @BarbaraBB posted mentions her response to an interviewer on the autobiographical feel, stating that it wasn't "entirely taken from life, rather less than the reader might think." So if she chose 'I' over 'she' maybe she acknowledged the extent to which the narrator was herself, but wanted to have freedom to invent as needed when it suited what she wanted to explore. 2w
Leftcoastzen I almost bailed myself after the first part .I just glanced at it again and still 🙄.When it clicked for me could have had a lot to do with loving the idea , somewhat stereotypical, of the writers and/or artists life, odd and smart people , having interesting conversations in the night, cheap Chianti,scaping by ,etc. (edited) 2w
lele1432 @Billypar that makes a lot of sense! 2w
vivastory @Billypar That's a great point. I think she didn't want to be restricted by the purely autobiographical & the novel form allowed her that freedom 2w
sisilia Good one @lele1432 2w
merelybookish I think @BarbaraBB mentioned Simone de Beauvoir in another thread which is made me think of her quote about how "one is not born but becomes a woman." So somehow to write the I is to always wrestle or require the writing of the she. 2w
batsy I'm not sure how to answer this but great points @vivastory @Billypar @merelybookish I agree with Margot that to write in this vein is to ask the question of who is the "I" that writes. The whole book is kind of Hardwick asking that question. I think it's quite fascinating that to ask what makes a person conscious is to bring to the fore how they see the world & people & remember things. To get to know the protagonist through their observations. 2w
Billypar @merelybookish @batsy That's a whole different layer I never thought about. So instead of writing herself into her memories and looking at her actions (which we can't really step outside ourselves to do in real life), she wants to see how she observes/remembers other people from her life, and find herself through that process. And I suppose that's one reason the narrator stays up all night writing her letters. 2w
BarbaraBB @batsy @vivastory @Billypar @merelybookish Your observations make so much sense and make appreciate what she was doing so much more. 2w
GatheringBooks @Billypar @batsy @merelybookish appreciate your thoughts about I and She as the story‘s narrator - which for me also underscores the target “you” or target audience, as I felt that Hardwick was pretty dismissive with the “you” - not really caring whether her reader grasped her nuances, or understood her narrative. it was simply just “I” or “She” in the writing - with little attention on the “target audience/reader” or if there is even one, at all. 2w
merelybookish @Billypar @batsy I love how you've developed this idea more! Both of your describe this I/she decision so beautifully! I also think gender is important. The I somehow belongs to a man. It is an active, confident stance. The she opens up ways for Hardwick to tell other stories about women that reflect her truth too. 2w
merelybookish @GatheringBooks I agree that Hardwick doesn't seem too concerned with the you; she is not making it easy for the reader. But part of me wonders if that is complicated by the fact that this is a novel. If it were designated as creative nonfiction or poetry, it might seem less demanding/dismissive of the you. 2w
GatheringBooks @merelybookish i have been thinking about this the whole day. and I think what turned me off with hardwick is her seeming disregard for the invisible reader. i find that the books i love best are the ones that build connections or attempt a sense of kinship without pandering necessarily to the reader, just an authentic rendering with a genuine affection for the time spent by an invisible other going through one‘s words - which I never sensed in H. 2w
Billypar @merelybookish Thanks! I was in agreement with the #5 question comments, but I am very interested in questions about gender that this raises, both in terms of I/she and connections to authors dealing with similar themes, such as already-mentioned de Beauvoir and Woolf, and I'd add Doris Lessing to that list. Too much there to cover in Litsy comments though! 2w
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Sleepless Nights | Elizabeth Hardwick
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#nyrbbookclub Question 3 of 5.

How would you categorize Sleepless Nights?

Rachel_nyc I am hoping someone can answer this question for me! Ha ha. Very difficult to categorize which is probably why the descriptions for this book did not prepare me at all for what I ‘d be reading. 2w
BarbaraBB I think it‘s autobiographical but not in the traditional format. Its stream of conscience character made it more of a literary read imo. 2w
vivastory I think it's really in a class by itself. Definitely a hybrid novel. Not strictly autobiographical novel, it often borders on prose poetry & her love for the essay form frequently shines through. 2w
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Aimeesue I wouldn't even know where to begin! Def has a very stream of consciousness feel, as @BarbaraBB notes. 2w
lele1432 Yes @vivastory! It definitely felt like prose in some instances and essays in others. 2w
vivastory @lele1432 @Leftcoastzen I'm definitely interested in reading her essays. I believe it was lithub that collected bits of wisdom from Hardwick & several pieces that really stood out to me were from her essays 2w
Liz_M To me it feels like a literary collage. It has a similiar feel to two other books I am reading, one for the stream of conscious (Pilgrimage by D. Richardson, 1920s) the other for the layering of details to tell a story (Anniversaries, by U. Johnson, 1970) 2w
BarbaraBB @Liz_M Two books I still need to read and am not looking forward to... 2w
sisilia This book is like her journal on-the-go. Whenever she remembered something about her past, she wrote it down. 2w
Liz_M @BarbaraBB I am loving Anniversaries. The only downside (which could be a bonus later) is the length. ☺ 2w
Liz_M @sisilia Another good description. 2w
batsy I love the answers above. A good question that I don't quite know how to answer. Maybe an essayistic novel? I do like that she's playing with the form of the novel and crafting a hybrid form like @vivastory mentions. 2w
vivastory @batsy Essayistic novel is a good description! One of my favorite passages was the section about Billie Holiday which had all of the hallmarks of a great lyrical essay 2w
batsy @vivastory Yes, that was one of my favourites too. It was so perfectly executed with so many layers of observation & feeling. 2w
BarbaraBB @Liz_M I am happy to hear that! 2w
GatheringBooks @sisilia exactly how i felt; it was a “journal-on-the-go” - although the literary craftsmanship and incisive insights and reflections about self and family and moving and celebrities and sense of place all demonstrate dense poetic caliber; yet, while I generally like this kind of writing, this one failed to capture my interest. may just be the time in my life. perhaps if i have read it at another time, it will resonate more tho i doubt it. 2w
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