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The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper | Hallie Rubenhold
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Five devastating human stories and a dark and moving portrait of Victorian Londonthe untold lives of the women killed by Jack the Ripper. Polly, Annie, Elizabeth, Catherine and Mary-Jane are famous for the same thing, though they never met. They came from Fleet Street, Knightsbridge, Wolverhampton, Sweden, and Wales. They wrote ballads, ran coffee houses, lived on country estates, they breathed ink-dust from printing presses and escaped people-traffickers. What they had in common was the year of their murders: 1888. The person responsible was never identified, but the character created by the press to fill that gap has become far more famous than any of these five women. For more than a century, newspapers have been keen to tell us that "the Ripper" preyed on prostitutes. Not only is this untrue, as historian Hallie Rubenhold has discovered, it has prevented the real stories of these fascinating women from being told. Now, in this devastating narrative of five lives, Rubenhold finally sets the record straight, revealing a world not just of Dickens and Queen Victoria, but of poverty, homelessness and rampant misogyny. They died because they were in the wrong place at the wrong timebut their greatest misfortune was to be born a woman.
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BeththeBookDragon
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Pickpick

Amazing book! The five canonical victims of Jack the Ripper, as people. Women, wives, mothers... all they were allowed to be in Victorian London.

Cinfhen Been meaning to read this one ☝🏾 thanks for the reminder 2w
Foxyfictionista I'm listening to this one on audible right now. It's so good! 2w
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EllieDottie
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Still working on moving and getting our place together so ALL of my books are just chilling in the middle of my room! I can‘t wait until I get all these put away and my nights just consist of reading 😉

kathedron They're not even my books but I just want to hug them! 😀 3w
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Wow!!! I sent you a card and it came back! I forgot you were moving 🤣🤷🏼‍♀️ 3w
EllieDottie @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks ahh!! Thank you for the card! Sorry about the upheaval in my life!! I meant to send you a card with my new address, but with everything moving around I accidentally shredded the envelope with your address! I always save the card but the envelope ended up in the shredded pile! Could you email me your address: thoe0064@gmail.com? 3w
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @EllieDottie no worries!! I know how it is!! I‘ll send it now ☺️ 3w
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veritysalter
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melissajayne
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MicheleinPhilly
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Pickpick

I was absolutely fascinated by this. Rubenhold‘s level of research and ability to so convincingly transport us to Victorian era London was quite remarkable. 4⭐️

LeahBergen I liked this one. 👍🏻 1mo
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Hooked_on_books
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Pickpick

We all “know” that Jack the Ripper‘s victims were prostitutes. Only, apparently, most of them weren‘t, according to this well researched book. Alongside descriptions of life in Victorian-era London, Rubenhold humanizes these 5 women and places the focus on their lives and who they each were, rather than on their deaths and killer. A fascinating book and a mirror into how we continue to objectify women.

mreads ❤🐕 1mo
Hooked_on_books @mreads Oh goodness, I forgot! Thanks for the reminder: #dogsofLitsy #Greta 1mo
Foxyfictionista This might be the next audio book I "read". It looks interesting . 1mo
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Crazeedi
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Mehso-so

3 ⭐
This book tells about the women murdered by Jack the Ripper in 1888. The author posits that 4 of the 5 women were not prostitutes as the papers of the time labeled them. At the time of their deaths they were all destitute, only one found in a bed, the others lived on the streets. The book shows how women of that era had no options, the author has an extensive bibliography attached.

Prairiegirl_reading Why only three stars? 1mo
Crazeedi @Prairiegirl_reading I thought it was good, not great 1mo
Prairiegirl_reading @Crazeedi just curious because I want to get this one. Probably going to wait for the paperback. 1mo
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awishman
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I was mesmerized by this book, a meticulously researched portrait of the five canonical victims of Jack the Ripper. By focusing on their lives and the social norms of the time, Rubenhold restored humanity and dignity to Polly, Annie, Elizabeth, Kate, and Mary Jane and also demonstrated how the misogyny of the time is still rampant today.

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Mitch
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Not my biggest reading month but what I‘ve read has been quality! Ive been inspired by the research that went into bringing the stories of the Rippers victims to life to enable them to be more than victims. I‘ve been transported to a remote Russian enclave and encouraged to make more photographs. I‘ve chewed over how I feel about desire and male views of what it should look like and I‘ve relaxed with math and space dreams. #augustinbooks

catiewithac How was Disappearing Earth? It's on my TBR list. 2mo
Mitch @catiewithac I liked it. It was less a mystery / thriller and more a portrait of a place and the women who live there. ✔️ 2mo
Birdsong28 The Five is my best book of 2019!! 📚📖 2mo
erzascarletbookgasm Some great quality reads! 👍 2mo
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MzTownsend
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Finally about to start this!!!!!

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Mitch
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Pickpick

An amazingly detailed & meticulously researched book. A lucrative industry has been made on the misogyny of the myth, sensationalising the horror and failing to understand who the women were. This book puts that right. But it does more than that. It also seeks to understand what life was truly like for working class women in Victorian England. Honest, sympathetic, empathetic and intelligently written it was amazing!

megnews I love this cover. Very atmospheric. 2mo
catebutler Can‘t wait to pick this one up! Great review, Mitch! 👍🏼 2mo
iread2much Ooo, sounds like a good read! 2mo
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Librarybelle One of my favorite reads for 2019, though it‘s such a harrowing topic. Great review! 2mo
Crazeedi Very nice review! Intriguing!! 2mo
LeahBergen I liked this one, too. 👍🏻 2mo
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Mitch
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Really enjoying this one. It‘s tracing the lives of the Rippers victims- giving them their story and visibility for who they were not what they were victim of. Didn‘t think I‘d like it as much as I do. Settling on for a Sunday evening read....

veritysalter I found it fascinating. Such a different, and refreshing, take on a familiar subject. As much as the past is romanticised in poppy last culture, I don‘t think I would have enjoyed being a woman in Victorian England. 2mo
Mitch @veritysalter I agree! The precipice between survival and ruin is so fine ☹️ 2mo
Mdargusch I‘m glad to hear you like this one since I have seen mixed reviews. 2mo
Mitch @Mdargusch Ive just finished it and really liked it - its a 5 star read for me! 2mo
Mdargusch Yay! Stacking then! 2mo
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AprilMae
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Looks like fun!!!

Clwojick Top five things that aren‘t a traditional bookmark that you use to hold your page. 2mo
4thhouseontheleft Top 5 literary villains. 2mo
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Mitch
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The English language is so lacking at times- there should be a special word for that feeling of starting a new book, just opening page 1 and getting reading to meet everyone.

AlaMich German probably has a word for that. German seems to have a word for everything. 😉 2mo
Crazeedi This is so true, one takes a deep sigh, a sniff of the book, and a warm heart feeling. Ready set go.... 2mo
Crazeedi Btw this book looks good 2mo
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Hooked_on_books @AlaMich 😆 So true! 2mo
Mitch @AlaMich @hooked_on_books I‘m sure they do! (edited) 2mo
Mitch @Crazeedi precisely! 2mo
Birdsong28 This is such a good book. I read 15/18 chapters in an afternoon as it just flowed. Going to listen to her talk about this in October can't wait!! Enjoy!! 2mo
Birdsong28 My best book of 2019!! 📚📖 2mo
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StellaDz
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Pickpick

If you ask people if they know of Jack the Ripper, the almost always say, of course! If you ask them to name the victims, they are generally referred to as ‘prostitutes‘. This book is a venture in women‘s study, as well as victimology. It is about the people tragically taken from this world. It is about the women that we should remember. Both enlightening and heartbreaking, it removes the spotlight from someone that doesn‘t deserve it.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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melissajayne
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Pickpick

I know I normally put the cover of the book I just read, but I felt that putting their names up was more important. A very fascinating book and timely book, as the author brings the crux of the book to the present in that women still have to fight a double standard when it comes to drinking heavily or sex. Excellent book 5 ⭐️#2019 #bookreview #bookstagram

Birdsong28 Best book of 2019 for me! I read 15 chapters in 4 hours as it just flowed and I didn't realise that I had got so far in the book (I know it only has 18 chaps). It is so good. Did you read the American copy or English copy? As the English copy has a dust sleeve that enables you to see the underneath where all the names are white on black background. 📚📖 3mo
melissajayne @Birdsong28 American version. I have seen photos of the UK copy. (edited) 3mo
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Librarybelle
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Thanks for the tag, @DaveGreen7777 !

1. Part of my job is recommending books and talking about books. The tagged is a more recent book I can‘t stop talking about to anyone who cares to listen. Haha!
2. I rarely go to the movies! I‘m thinking it may have been the Johnny Depp version of Dark Shadows...
3. Berries
4. 3, the youngest being at least 12 years older than me
5. ❤️❤️❤️ #Friyayintro

saguarosally My cousins are all older also. I‘m mostly the age of my cousins‘ children. 3mo
Librarybelle @saguarosally Me too! My oldest cousin‘s oldest child is only 2 years younger than me, I think. 3mo
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StellaDz
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The cover first caught my attention, and then the topic sealed it. #currentlyreading

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melissajayne
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Am about 1/2 way through and it struck me that much like it was in 1888, women murder victims are still often marginalized and forgotten. I think about Nicole Brown Simpson, the women murdered by Robert Pickton, the missing and murdered indigenous women here in Canada & the other murdered women who are often forgotten, no matter their social status.

Birdsong28 I have just finished this today. It's so good. I will be seeing the author in October and she will be discussing this. I did my review under the tagged book if you want to check it out, it's still the same book but I did it on this one as it had the English cover 3mo
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Birdsong28
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Cathythoughts 😱sounds good ! Thankyou 😘 3mo
Birdsong28 @Cathythoughts It's ok. It only came out in Feb and should be £30! I have the hardback but I couldn't resist this. This book has changed the way people have thought about these women. Also I am seeing this author talk in October can't wait! 3mo
Cathythoughts Brilliant! Just got it 👍🏻👍🏻 3mo
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Andrew65 Thanks for the tag. 👍 (edited) 3mo
Ms_T Sounds wonderful! Thanks for the tag 😘 3mo
Birdsong28 @andrew65 @Ms_T It's ok I don't want you to miss out on such a good deal on such a good book. 😘📚📖 3mo
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melissajayne
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My books for #24in48. I will do the best I can for starting this late (it‘s noon Pacific and I have to work tomorrow). @24in48

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MallenNC
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I went upstairs and it looks like one of my cats is living her best life with a stack of books and the tv controllers. #catsoflitsy

AlaMich 🤣 all that‘s missing is a 🍷 or a 🍺!! Or maybe a 🍹, it being summer and all. (edited) 4mo
MallenNC @AlaMich She probably would love a pina colada! 4mo
StayCurious We have an identical cat named Kacy 😄 4mo
MallenNC @StayCurious Mine is named Kate! Torties are fun. 4mo
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melissanorr
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Pickpick

A very well researched book about the confirmed victims of Jack the Ripper. I had some quibbles with it but overall it's a solid piece of scholarship and an engaging read. #TrueCrime #JackTheRipper

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danimgill
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Bailedbailed

I think this is a case of “it‘s not you it‘s me” - this book is jam packed with minutia of the social situation of Victorian England that Jack the Ripper‘s victims were enmeshed in and I just couldn‘t keep my attention on all those details. I‘m glad this book exists, I‘m always glad to learn more about the victims and not the murderer but it just wasn‘t the right fit for me.

tracey38 It happens. And there are too many good books out there we each will enjoy personally to worry about finishing a story we just aren't that into. 4mo
GingerAntics I‘ve only managed to get through the first victim, and I haven‘t progressed beyond that in over a month now. I wasn‘t quite sure why I would rather read other things right now besides RL being weird right now, but I think I‘m with you on this. She could cut out all the little details and just get to the point and I‘d be happy. I think I may be with you on this one. 4mo
danimgill @GingerAntics I only got through the first victim‘s section too! Glad to have someone else with me on this one, I keep seeing this book on “best of 2019 so far” lists and thinking I must be missing something 😂 4mo
GingerAntics We can‘t be the only two. 4mo
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DGRachel
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3.5⭐ Remember their names: Polly, Annie, Elisabeth, Kate, and Mary Jane. It's so important to give victims their voices and return their humanity back to them. I wish we'd refuse to name evil people in the media and instead focus on the lives that were stolen. This is a well-researched, highly readable book that provides insight into the lives of the canonical victims of a notorious serial killer. A little repetitive, but worth reading.

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Verity
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Really really good. This recenters the Ripper story on the women. I don‘t care who the ripper was and I don‘t think it‘s possible to know. But I do care about what was like for women in the past. And as well as the stories of the five women, you get a real sense of what it was like to be poor, female and women undereducated in Victorian London. Brilliant - but not uplifting.

Lea I want this to come out in audio so badly 4mo
Verity @Lea audible uk have the audiobook listed and available so hopefully you should be able to get it soon? 4mo
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TheRomantiCate
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Thank you so so so much to @Chili for my jam-packed package!! I love it all!! I‘m such a sticker fiend 🤩🤩 and the origami is incredible! You really nailed all of the things I love to collect 🥰🥰🥰

Plus I‘m so excited to read these books!! 🤓🤓

#mysterymessageswap

Chili @TheRomantiCate I‘m glad you like it. I had a lot of fun putting it together, although I had help with the origami. (Thank you Laura) 😁 4mo
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Evelyn 💚💚💚💚 4mo
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TheBookStacker
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I just got this book because I‘ve been on a low key late night insomnia binge of Ripper and I wanted to know more about the victims themselves. I am taking recommendations for books that are more strictly about the ripper himself. My book model for this evening is a very sleepy Ginny.

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Verity
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Look which library hold just came in. I can‘t wait to read the book that has made so many (male) “ripperologists” get so angry...

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DGRachel
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DGRachel
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Of course. 🙄

AshleyHoss820 Lawd. 🙄🙄🙄 5mo
Susannah I‘m reading a book on Henry VIII‘s wives, and it‘s the same thing. 🤦‍♀️ 5mo
DGRachel @Susannah It feels like it‘s still the same thing. 😢 5mo
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melissajayne
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#libraryhaul no. 1 from Surrey Libraries
From top to bottom:
• Paper Magician
•Secrets of a Charmed Life
• The Hunchback of Notre Dame
• The Five
• The Kennedy Debutant
• Beauchamp Hall

Special_K I love the Paper Magician series 5mo
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Bailedbailed

It is well researched but dense and dark. I gave up. If you are interested in subject I'd recommend the interview with the author on the podcast "Criminal Broads". Victorian England was a sad tough time for women and even worse for those barely surviving, due to poverty, illness, and lack of rights.

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10MoreMin

Just got off reserve from the library

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Birdsong28
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Late birthday present from my dad.

Loving how they did the cover so you can see underneath as it doesn't quite fit , and if @LeahBergen hadn't pointed it out I would have thought it was a mishap with the cover. 😂📚📖

LeahBergen Right? 😆😆 6mo
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LeahBergen
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I started this one last night and I‘m finding it exceptionally well done so far. 👍🏻

(And the publishers really outdid themselves with this edition; the “naked hardcover” under the jacket displays all the victims‘ names).

#CurrentlyReading

Mitch I saw a stage / operatic adaptation of this last month and it was excellent. 6mo
Bookish_B I have this but haven't read it yet. My cover is different though. And I didn't think to take off the jacket and see what's under there. I wonder if mine is like that too? 6mo
LeahBergen @Mitch Oh, I bet that was amazing! 6mo
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LeahBergen @Bookish_B Did you check your cover? 6mo
Bookish_B @LeahBergen I forgot! 🤦🏽‍♀️ I'll try to remember tonight! 6mo
DebinHawaii This is definitely on my list! 👍 6mo
Reviewsbylola Wow, I kind of love it! 6mo
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1MoreChapter
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Pickpick

This is not just another book about Jack the Ripper. This focuses only on the five victims lives from their childhoods to circumstances that led to them living on the streets. #bookphotography ☀️

LauraBrook Great photo! I‘m glad you liked the book, it‘s on my TBR list for sure. 6mo
Suet624 Great photo! 6mo
Michellekidwell I added this one to my tbr list, it sounds fascinating 6mo
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SarahMillerBooks
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My day was pretty bluh until about 20 minutes ago, when I picked up The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper, by Hallie Rubenhold. I predict that I will not be putting it down any time soon. 😱

LeahBergen Good to hear! I have this one waiting for me. 6mo
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BookishRedhead
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Different side of the story.
Get a look at what the women were like before their deaths.
Interesting biography