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Wandering Stars
Wandering Stars | Tommy Orange
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The eagerly awaited follow-up to Pulitzer Prize finalist Tommy Orange's breakout best seller There There--winner of the PEN/Hemingway Award, the John Leonard Prize, the American Book Award, and one of the New York Times Ten Best Books of the Year--Wandering Stars traces the legacies of the Sand Creek Massacre of 1864 and the Carlisle Industrial School for Indians through to the shattering aftermath of Orvil Redfeather's shooting in There There. Colorado, 1864. Star, a young survivor of the Sand Creek Massacre, is brought to the Fort Marion Prison Castle, where he is forced to learn English and practice Christianity by Richard Henry Pratt, an evangelical prison guard who will go on to found the Carlisle Industrial School for Indians, an institution dedicated to the eradication of Native history, culture, and identity. A generation later, Star's son, Charles, is sent to the school, where he is brutalized by the man who was once his father's jailer. Under Pratt's harsh treatment, Charles clings to moments he shares with a young fellow student, Opal Viola, as the two envision a future away from the institutional violence that follows their bloodline. Oakland, 2018. Opal Viola Victoria Bear Shield is barely holding her family together after the shooting that nearly took the life of her nephew Orvil. From the moment he awakens in his hospital bed, Orvil begins compulsively googling school shootings on YouTube. He also becomes emotionally reliant on the prescription medications meant to ease his physical trauma. His younger brother Lony, suffering from PTSD, is struggling to make sense of the carnage he witnessed at the shooting by secretly cutting himself and enacting blood rituals which he hopes will connect him to his Cheyenne heritage. Opal is equally adrift, experimenting with Ceremony and peyote, searching for a way to heal her wounded family. Extending his constellation of narratives into the past and future, Tommy Orange once again delivers a story that is by turns shattering and wondrous, a book piercing in its poetry, sorrow, and rage--a masterful follow-up to his already--classic first novel, and a devastating indictment of America's war on its own people.
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Chelsea.Poole
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This follow up to There There is worthy, but does not surpass what Orange has done originally with the characters and vibes of his first novel. I enjoyed the audiobook‘s various narrators which emphasized various Native American experiences, both past and present. Themes of heritage, addiction, and familial connection across generations.

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Graywacke
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I loved his 1st novel, There There (2018) This 2nd novel is more of the same, but this time it‘s not new. And he never changes style. Several characters all written in the same style. Oye. It works for one character, Orvil. For the rest, well, so so or worse for me.

Hooked_on_books I wanted to love this but couldn‘t get into it at all. 1mo
Graywacke @Hooked_on_books I never did really get into it… 1mo
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Anna40
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I liked the first half better than the second because I was more interested in the characters &their story. I wish the author had focused on either the present or past &explored those stories in more depth. Addiction,as much as it is a real issue,was too repetitive. I ended up not being as emotionally engaged as I could have been.Overall though, this is a great book, a writer whose voice I love to hear& I‘m looking forward to what he writes next.

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BarbaraBB
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“Lony feels worse because he doesn‘t even care about being Native or Indian and would rather just have a normal life and not have to always feel so heavy, have to carry more than it feels like he should have to carry.”

And heavy it is, this prequel/sequel to There There. Tommy Orange dedicates his second book to ‘everyone surviving and not surviving this thing called and not called addiction‘. ⬇️⬇️ #camptob

BarbaraBB And indeed, it seems everyone is addicted to something in this book and it‘s always so repetitive, reading about it.

I feel like Orange could have made much more of the potentially very interesting characters. I didn‘t enjoy the book half as much as I did There There.
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Soubhiville Thanks for your honest review. I‘ve wondered how this one is. 1mo
BarbaraBB @Soubhiville I am a minority here and I know it‘s probably based on true stories. I feel for them but it‘s not written in a way that engaged me 🤷🏻‍♀️ 1mo
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dabbe #fanofthepan! 🤩🤩🤩 1mo
Anna40 I agree. I liked the first half a lot though! 1mo
BarbaraBB @Anna40 Yes, I think too that the first half was better! 1mo
Graywacke @BarbaraBB - your 1st comment here is spot on 1mo
BarbaraBB @Graywacke I didn‘t reread There There either but I remember it as a much better worked out book. 1mo
tpixie @BarbaraBB @Soubhiville I agree. With both books. Lots of characters, lots of depressing stuff, which I understand, but not my favorite writing. 1mo
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Graywacke
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I haven‘t tried this local (and significant) book club before. It‘s free to join online. I started the book last night.

(For the curious: https://inprinthouston.org/event/inprint-book-club-discusses-wandering-stars/ )

BarbaraBB Very interesting. I am going to read this for #CampToB 1mo
Graywacke @BarbaraBB 👍 I got the summer ToB email yesterday and saw this was on there. 1mo
Liz_M @Graywacke @BarbaraBB FYI over on LT, Ridgewaygirl strongly recommended (re)reading There There before this one 1mo
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BarbaraBB @Liz_M Oh really? I highly value her opinion so I probably will then. @RidgewayGirl (edited) 1mo
Graywacke @Liz_M @BarbaraBB nope. Not doing that. 😁 (but i value her opinion too! @RidgewayGirl ) 1mo
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Cortg
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I really enjoy Orange‘s writing style and storytelling. This prequel/sequel ties in Orville‘s family lineage dating back to the late 1800‘s as we learn about each generation‘s story. We are then brought into the more present time as we learn about Orville and his family after the powwow. So much to think about after closing this book. ❤️

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shawnmooney
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#SundaySentence by Clarice Lispector, quoted in Tommy Orange‘s Wandering Stars

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Lesliereadsalot
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It‘s 1864 in Colorado and so begins this story about one Native American family, generation after generation. We live through massacres and shootings and drug addiction and alcoholism and cancer, never really knowing how it‘s going to turn out in the end. It‘s about one family‘s quest to understand their history and come to terms with it. A thoroughly engaging book about a slice of life with which you may not be familiar.

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Lesliereadsalot
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There were children, and then there were the children of Indians, because the merciless savage inhabitants of these American lands did not make children but nits, and nits make lice, or so it was said by the man who meant to make a massacre feel like killing bugs at Sand Creek.

#FirstLineFridays @ShyBookOwl

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shawnmooney
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https://youtu.be/z_P8wkOpzeA?si=s0v_o4p3DWZ8vjXS

Political commentary

A fabulous biblioadventure

Mystery guest

Johnny I Hardly Knew You by Edna O'Brien

Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange

Marzahn, mon amour by Katja Oskamp, Jo Heinrich (Translator)

Making Up the Gods by Marion Agnew

Young Bloomsbury: The Generation That Redefined Love, Freedom, and Self-Expression in 1920s England by Nino Strachey

In Tongues by Thomas Grattan

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Jolynne
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This is a story of a survivor of the Sand Creek Massacre and continues on with his descendants. It is about finding oneself, it is about healing. I loved it. “You are from a people who survived by making their surviving mean more than surviving, who did their best to stay together”. Tommy Orange.

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tpixie
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Reading these books back to back is breaking my heart 💔 They are complimentary- his 2nd book, Wandering Stars, is a prequel & sequel to his 1st book- There, There. Tommy Orange is coming to Wichita to the Mid- America Indian Center in a couple of weeks. I‘m looking forward to this author event.

Tamra I didn‘t realize it was connected to There There! 3mo
tpixie @Tamra yes! I‘m just starting it but it‘s a prequel of some of the ancestors and I we meet some of the characters from there there as time goes on 3mo
Tamra @tpixie I‘m looking forward to it. 😄 3mo
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mcctrish Oh how exciting to see Tommy Orange 3mo
tpixie @mcctrish yes!! we don‘t get too many Author events in Wichita so this is exciting. If I had an option when I retired, I would go somewhere that had bookstores where there are a lot of events!!! 3mo
mcctrish @tpixie that‘s my dream too ( there‘s a big book festival over several weekends in a town east of Toronto - I live in London ON which is south of Toronto - and I‘d love to go to it some time ) 3mo
tpixie @mcctrish oh! That sounds like it would be great!! 3mo
Suet624 Enjoy your visit with Tommy! 3mo
tpixie @Suet624 thanks 😊 3mo
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MsLeah8417
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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Nathan_Opland-Dobs
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Panpan

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Floresj
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Orange has an unique style of writing that makes the plot and characters unique and intriguing. This has different eras that we visit, with flawed characters who share their perspectives in their storytelling. Good with a little variety in the stories.

tpixie I‘m reading There, There now, then will read this book in preparation for him coming to town at the Mid America Indian Center in Wichita, KS in a couple of weeks. Killers of a Flower Moon author will be coming to Hutchinson Kansas next week. It‘s my month to read Native American books! (edited) 3mo
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rachelsbrittain
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Generations of a Cheyenne family grapple with the legacy of a massacre and a residential school alongside the institutional racism that results in severe generational trauma even as they strive to come together and protect each other. This was my first Tommy Orange book and I definitely want to read There There now, specially since the two books are interconnected.

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Hooked_on_books
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I really want to like Tommy Orange. But I‘m afraid I just don‘t. I managed to get to the 21% mark of this one, but each time I have to force myself to pick it up and read a few more pages. I‘m glad people love him, but I‘m afraid he‘s just not for me.

vivastory I think it's fantastic that you can admit that although if it's not for you, others love the author. I see a lot of reviews on social media (not really on Litsy) where the creator will not only slam the book, but also the readers who have left positive reviews. (edited) 4mo
squirrelbrain I also have an ARC of this. Haven‘t got to it yet though, due to #womensprize lists. 4mo
Hooked_on_books @vivastory I won‘t lie, there are authors (I can think of one at the moment) who people love and I think are terrible, but I‘m certainly not going to slam those readers. After all, I don‘t want someone to slam me for my taste. And I do love seeing authors from marginalized groups succeeding, whether their books are for me or not. The more who succeed, the more the door will be open for others. 4mo
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Honeybeebooks
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Prequel - sequel call it anything you like, Wandering Stars is heartbreakingly beautiful. Looking back to the Sand Creek Massacre and following the family line to the contemporary Red Feather family, Tommy Orange examines the generational injury and trauma that often leads to addiction. Orange‘s powerful prose made this work my first 5/5 ⭐️ pick of 2024.

Honeybeebooks The cast for the audio version is phenomenal! 4mo
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Pinta
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“There There” prequel & sequel. Shifting 1st per POVs (one 2nd person). Addiction & recovery. Bullet as star. Early characters feel in service to research—little dialogue or interiority. Missing the urgency of “There There.” But lovely bits. 2024

P114 “You are from a people who survived by making their surviving mean more than surviving.”

P135 “He was still trying to figure out what was pain & what was relief, what were dreams & what were drugs”

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Megabooks
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I really enjoyed this follow up to There There. The audiobook production was great!

Orange first goes back in time tracing the lineage of Opal, Orvil, et al through the violence wrought by colonialism. Then he travels back to Oakland 2018 and follows the family after the shooting at the PowWow and the lingering effects of PTSD.

squirrelbrain I have this as a #netgalley ARC….just no time to read it at the moment! 😬 4mo
Megabooks @squirrelbrain I hope you do if you liked There There. It‘s a worthy follow up. 4mo
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Lindy
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The excellent audiobook production has a cast of 9 readers to voice the multiple viewpoints in this moving novel that begins with a Cheyenne survivor of the 1864 Sand Creek Massacre and his descendants through to contemporary times. Displacement, addiction, home and healing. The novel is linked to the characters in Tommy Orange‘s debut There, There and it‘s every bit as powerful.

ChaoticMissAdventures Oh I love a full cast reading! This is high on my 2024 TBR. 4mo
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Lindy
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We don‘t live on a planet, we are the planet. It made us.

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Lindy
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… even wisdom, which word she hates, soaked as it is in new-ageyness, or so Native American-sounding you automatically hear the word accompanied by a Native American flute or an eagle‘s cry. Except that the sound effect everyone considers an eagle‘s cry is in fact a red-tailed hawk.

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Lindy
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The only one who can save him is himself, and that is true for everyone.

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Lindy
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Recent Reads March 13: literary salon; Indigenous stories; audiobooks; poetry; women in translation
https://youtu.be/1PFEt1JRWf8

#booktube #CanadianAuthor

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AardvarkBookClub
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I knew then that I couldn‘t speak if I wanted to. I couldn‘t say anything and couldn‘t tell if I ever had before.

#aardvarkbookclub #jointoday

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AardvarkBookClub
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I‘d lived enough life, almost died enough times to know when a good thing came along, a thing you didn‘t know could fill you right up, which only when it filled you let you know there‘d been a hole in you before.

#aardvarkbookclub #tommyorange #jointoday

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AardvarkBookClub
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Everything they‘d learned to sit, stand, lean, lie, and rely on, bottomed out from under them as if the earth had quaked and taken all it could into cracks which widened into chasms.

#aardvarkbookclub #wanderingstars #tommyorange

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AardvarkBookClub
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The Pulitzer Prize-finalist and author of the breakout bestseller There There, Tommy Orange traces the legacies of the Sand Creek Massacre of 1864 and the Carlisle Indian Industrial School through three generations of a family in a story that is by turns shattering and wondrous.

#aardavarkbookclub #jointoday

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jlhammar
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#bookmail part 2

Tamra Love Tommy Orange! Waiting for my audio hold to come in. 😬 5mo
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TracyReadsBooks
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Orange‘s writing is impossibly beautiful—each sentence constructed with such care & intent that it is easy to just get lost in the cadence of his writing. More than once, I would stop to reread a passage. Raw, visceral, angry, hopeful, this is another really, really good book, one which is, however, not quite as cohesive as There There which I actually liked a little bit more. Good, occasionally great, this is a powerful, haunting read.

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TracyReadsBooks
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Started this last night and it is every bit as good as you would expect it to be…maybe even better. No slump here. Orange‘s second book is bringing it…

Ruthiella Good to know! 👍 5mo
SamAnne Can‘t wait to get my hands on this! 5mo
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Nebklvr
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Whereas “There There” was rapid bursts of characters which eventually connected, “Wandering Stars” is a slow, concentric, unending ebb and flow of relationships and secrets. At tomes, I was lost in the dreamy haziness but Orange‘s artistry is always worth checking out. Thanks to Edelweiss and the publisher for an arc.

ErikasMindfulShelf Can‘t wait to read this. 5mo
Nebklvr @ErikasMindfulShelf Let me know how it stacks up! 4mo
ErikasMindfulShelf I liked it but I looooved There, There. Didn‘t live up to my expectations. (edited) 4mo
Nebklvr @ErikasMindfulShelf Yes. I think it suffered in the comparison. 4mo
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BookBr
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Delightful book haul from the OLA conference yesterday — all ARCs or giveaways, and a very nice compensation for a day on my feet! The TBRnpile grows exponentially 😂😂😂

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vlwelser
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This is the sequel to There There. I definitely recommend this even if you made the mistake of listening to the audio and had trouble following the story. This book is basically about addiction. And I do love the characters. I might like this more than the first book.

#BookSpinBingo @TheAromaofBooks

Pub date is 2/27/24
#ARC #Netgalley

TheAromaofBooks Great progress!!! 6mo
SamAnne Oh, can‘t wait to read this! 6mo
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Deblovestoread
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I am very interested in reading Orange's upcoming new release. I do think it will be a tough read but an important topic.

#BBGiveawy

Thanks for the opportunity @barbarabb. I appreciate all the ways you make Litsy great.

Would you like to help Barbara celebrate? @Read4life @LiseWorks

Read4life 🤓 10mo
BarbaraBB A new Tommy Orange! And such a gorgeous cover! Thanks for entering the giveaway 💕 10mo
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GerardtheBookworm
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A follow-up to Tommy Orange's previous novel There There revisits his characters focusing on Orvil Redfeather and his ancestors that shaped his culture in the modern world. Beginning with the Sand Beach Massacre, the forced assimilation of tribal schools like the Carlisle Institution, and the trauma, abuse, and struggles Natives endure in modern society.