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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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Bookwormjillk I was kind of surprised the mother actually died. I wasn‘t sure if she was actually sick or saying she was to get her horrible children to behave. 2d
BarkingMadRead @Bookwormjillk I totally thought it was for attention 2d
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ElizaMarie Me too!!! I just thought of her like a guilt-tripper! Sebastian and Kurt? I don‘t like it. Sebastian seems to have very co-dependent relationships. 2d
willaful @ElizaMarie It occurs to me that a lot of people who are rejected by or reject their families of birth wind up in this kind of relationship. Someone who gives you what you need, weird though it may look to the outside world.

Re the mom, even a stopped clock...
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Clare-Dragonfly I thought we‘d never get to hear from Anthony Blanche again after he was sent down from Oxford so I was delighted to see him again in this chapter! He and Cordelia are the best. Though Cordelia wins by being smart and honest, not just hilarious. 1d
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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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Bookwormjillk Cordelia 😂😂 3d
BarkingMadRead @Bookwormjillk best part of the whole chapter 🤣🤣 3d
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willaful Oh man. Charles falls for Julia because she's the closest he can get to Sebastian. UGH.

Cordelia is a beam of sunshine. 💛
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lil1inblue Cordelia was excellent in this chapter. ??? I also found Rex's whole "I'll just become a Catholic" thing hilarious. 3d
Cuilin @lil1inblue that was so funny, especially with Cordelia interfering. 😆 3d
ElizaMarie Rex doesn‘t seem to get it. I would think Julia would have been insulted that he didn‘t take the Catholicism seriously and dismissed it. Like to say he would throw money at the fact his x wife existed - he is cocky. —- oh and Cordelia is a hoot!!! 3d
mcctrish I quite liked Rex until he went back to his mistress because Julia wouldn‘t put out - she was 20? In an era that frowned on extra marital sex AND didn‘t talk about sex to know what to expect 3d
Clare-Dragonfly @willaful 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 2d
Clare-Dragonfly Cordelia is the best. I want to say Rex and Julia deserve each other, but that might be a little harsh on Julia. The bit where she catches him with his mistress so pointedly avoids him, and then when she‘s talked into seeing him she emerges engaged, cracked me up! 2d
ElizaMarie @Clare-Dragonfly YES !!! I was thinking she was going to “hold strong“ with her avoiding him and making him chase her to even talk to her! But... she probably knew how weak she was to him and his speeches. I felt sorry for Julia. 2d
lil1inblue @mcctrish 🎯 🎯 🎯Exactly this! 2d
BarbaraJean @mctrish Ugh, yes. Especially when his earlier version of it to Charles was that Julia knew about the mistress and was fine with it 🙄 2d
Daisey This was a great chapter. Cordelia's interference was hilarious. 2d
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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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willaful I don't think I care much about Julia making a stupid mistake, she's kind of a horrible person. 4d
BarkingMadRead @willaful yeah, I‘m not a big a fan either. I thought she was fun at first, but not so much anymore! 4d
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Cuilin Oh Sebastian, 😔 I love how Charles is unbothered by Lady M‘s disappointment in him. (edited) 4d
willaful The whole family is so toxic, even Cordelia at times. Though that's from her upbringing and she's sweet enough that she might overcome it.
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lil1inblue The discomfort in this chapter was palpable! Oof! 4d
Cuilin @lil1inblue Yes, that‘s a really good way of putting it. I‘m not a fan of Lady M. 4d
Bookwormjillk Ooof the fun is over. 4d
mcctrish The money is all gone - oof 4d
Clare-Dragonfly Is Brideshead‘s first name actually Brideshead?! I thought he was Lord Brideshead but probably has a real first name and the last name Flyte like Sebastian (you know, like George Gordon, Lord Byron)… but even his mom calls him “Bridey.” 4d
Clare-Dragonfly @willaful I‘d have hope for Cordelia if she were to be spirited away to some other family. 4d
ElizaMarie EESH this family is A LOT! I‘d be drinking all the time too!!! 4d
Ruthiella @Clare-Dragonfly Bridey does have a Christian name. Brideshead is just the title and Bridey his nickname. But the book never reveals what it is. 4d
BarbaraJean I‘ve been catching up and discovered today that my copy combines Book I and Book II (chapters 1-8) and therefore Book III has become Book II (chapters 1-5). As if I wasn‘t confused enough already by falling behind 🥴 Also I miss Aloysius. 🧸 3d
BarkingMadRead @BarbaraJean would it help if I started off with the chapter title? Aaaand I‘m just now realizing those are only in my table of contents (edited) 2d
BarbaraJean @BarkingMadRead Yeah, I don‘t have chapter titles at all 😆 I‘m planning to read the last two chapters in my Book I / your Book II today, which will put me back on track with the group and should help with the clarity! It‘s just such an odd difference to have between editions (and makes me suspicious of mine!) (edited) 2d
BarkingMadRead @BarbaraJean yes! We finish our book 2 today! So crazy that yours is so different! 2d
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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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TheBookHippie Fell behind catching up today! Am loving it! 5d
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mcctrish I‘m pretty sure everything will go wrong 5d
willaful Fascinating chapter! To me, Charles and Sebastian are clearly in love... But do they know it themselves?

The ending is heartbreaking. Sebastian's family is doing the absolute worst thing they could do in the name of taking care of him. I'm afraid they're driving him to his death.
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Cuilin The juxtaposition of the helicoptering of Sebastian‘s family and The “hey you‘re 22, no? you‘re 20, I thought it was longer but, live your own life” from Charles‘s father is something. (edited) 5d
Clare-Dragonfly I do not foresee good things for Sebastian. 5d
Bookwormjillk I left this and Nancy Drew until 7:45 tonight. Why do I feel like a kid who procrastinated on their homework 😂 5d
lil1inblue @Bookwormjillk Haha. Same. 😂 4d
lil1inblue @willaful They're definitely in love. 😍 4d
ElizaMarie @willaful yes!!! I don‘t think they understand the feelings they have but know they feel intense and all consuming. 4d
Sparklemn @Cuilin I thought so, too. And yet they‘re both so lonely. 3d
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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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Bookwormjillk Pop was worried 😂

I'm a Cordelia fan too.
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willaful Haven't finished the chapter yet, but the wine tasting scene is hilarious! “Like the last unicorn.“
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dabbe @BarkingMadRead I was looking over the chapters, and a few of them are 40-60 pages. I'm okay powering through, but I do have a modified reading schedule if anyone is interested; we'd still finish well before the end of September. Starting with tomorrow, here it is:
9/13: Ch. 5, first half
9/14: Ch. 5, second half
9/15: Book 2/Ch. 1
9/16: Ch. 2
9/17: Ch. 3
9/18: Book 3/Ch. 1, first half
9/19: Ch. 1, second half
9/20: Ch. 2
9/21: Ch. 3 ⬇️
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dabbe 9/22: Ch. 4
9/23: Ch. 5, first half
9/24: Ch. 5, second half
9/25: Epilogue

This is only a suggestion that I thought I'd share. 🧡💜💛
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Cuilin I can‘t remember if this is my third or fourth time reading this book, but I cannot figure out Ryder‘s father!! he just exudes sarcasm, right? Also, Cordelia is hilarious. “I can‘t spare you a whole rosary you know. Just a decade.” 1w
BarkingMadRead @dabbe I love this, thanks for figuring it out! I will make a separate post and tag everyone so that nobody misses it 1w
Ruthiella @Cuilin This is only my second time reading it. I do recall on first reading it how I thought Charles relationship was his father was sad and lonely, but on the second reading I kind of think that Ryder Sr. is doing the right thing by encouraging (in his way) Charles to live within his means (which are very generous 740 in 1925!?!!) and get him out of the house and living his own life. Plus, he likes Sebastian - later chapters will prove. 1w
mcctrish I love Cordelia! Sebastien stuttering “Charles, Charles! It‘s Mr Ryder” Cordelia “Charles, meet me ……” I‘m getting Flavia vibes! I love a precocious tween girl 7d
Cuilin @Ruthiella yeah I agree with this assessment. I do think he was trying to encourage Charles to live within his means and also to use his summer appropriately, maybe get a job and then he could afford go to the theater, etc.. plus I also think Charles though aware of his father‘s loneliness, doesn‘t write to him. 7d
dabbe @mcctrish 🎯♥️🎯 7d
Clare-Dragonfly I love Cordelia! She knows what she wants and goes for it. 7d
ElizaMarie I love Cordelia and her rosary!!! She is such a fun character 7d
lil1inblue @willaful Loved the wine tasting! 🤣🤣🤣 I just love this book. 6d
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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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Bookwormjillk I haven‘t finished the chapter yet but those dinner scenes had me rolling. I love this book. 1w
Ruthiella In my limited experience, this chapter with its snarky humor is more typical of his other novels (The Loved One and A Handful of Dust). 1w
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mcctrish If surviving dinners with his father does not encourage savings going forward, nothing will 1w
willaful Dad is a piece of work! Though given that he already provided Charles with an ample allowance, I can't entirely blame him for playing dumb.

So I'm guessing Charles used up the last of his money rushing to Sebastian's bedside? Hmmm....
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dabbe @mcctrish 😂😂😂 1w
dabbe I can't help but compare Charles and Sebastian's relationship to Gene and Finny's in A SEPARATE PEACE, though this one they're in college, and there's definitely more humor. Pretty much similar time periods as well. And how dumb am I? I had no idea Mr. Waugh pronounced his name as EVE-luhn. I'm thoroughly enjoying this book. 1w
Clare-Dragonfly I don‘t believe a word anyone says in this book. This is not a complaint. 1w
Clare-Dragonfly Why didn‘t Sebastian invite Charles earlier if he wanted him around so badly?! 😂 Also, dunno if Dad is thinking explicitly “hmm, perhaps my son is gay” but I love him commenting that he wouldn‘t turn up at his friend‘s deathbed because the friend‘s wife wouldn‘t like it. 1w
KAO I chuckled aloud when I read Sebastian‘s brief letter to Charles actually dated: “I wonder what day it is”—and I thought to myself that I could easily and honestly date my next letter to a friend this same way instead of checking my calendar to give the impression that I have my life under control with an accurate date! (edited) 1w
KAO I‘m enjoying this book too—and am pleasantly surprised by the amount of humor! 1w
ElizaMarie @willaful I agree! I think the dad is purposely playing dumb about the $ because he knows his son squandered it away —- I love the dad‘s attitude! (edited) 1w
ElizaMarie So far the book is pretty funny! These characters! @Clare-Dragonfly I don‘t believe anyone either!!!! All the dramatics! 1w
Sparklemn @KAO This was my favorite line of the chapter! 😆 1w
lil1inblue I so agree with @bookwormjillk the dinner scenes were uproariously hilarious. I love Waugh's humor! 1w
lil1inblue @dabbe You're nailing these comparisons! It's been a while, but I definitely feel hints of A Separate Peace. 1w
willaful @KAO yes, that was a hoot... And very Sebastian, I think. 1w
dabbe @lil1inblue IKR? 💜🧡💛 1w
julieclair I think the dad is my favorite character! 4d
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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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Cuilin I flagged so many things today!!! If I showed up at a party and Anthony was there, I would definitely be thinking this is gonna be good!!! 🤪 Did he just call Sebastian stupid? 1w
BarkingMadRead @Cuilin i think he may be my fave, he‘s definitely the most fun. 1w
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Cuilin @BarkingMadRead I get the feeling we‘re not meant to like him, but I do. 1w
BarkingMadRead @Cuilin 🤣 for sure, which makes it more fun 🤷🏻‍♀️ 1w
lil1inblue @cuilin @barkingmadread I want to sip tea and eat popcorn every time Anthony enters a scene. 😂 1w
Cuilin @lil1inblue 🍿& 🫖 yes!!!! 1w
willaful A chapter that is almost entirely a monologue! And he predicted what would happen perfectly... 1w
ElizaMarie Anthony is just a delightful story teller :) 1w
mcctrish @willaful he sure did 1w
Clare-Dragonfly I don‘t have much to say besides I agree with you all 😂 1w
julieclair Anthony is definitely entertaining, but I actually feel a little sorry for him. 1w
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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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Cuilin There‘s so much commentary online about this novel that I decided to annotate it!! Loved “The sun was behind us as we drove, so that we seemed to be in pursuit of our own shadows.” 1w
Bookwormjillk @Cuilin I have never read this. I'll have to go back and read all the commentary after. 1w
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TheBookHippie @Cuilin I got a new copy so I could flag it up 🤣🙌🏼 1w
Cuilin @TheBookHippie We need to share what we‘re flagging somehow. I have five different themes that I‘m annotating. I don‘t want to put spoilers in the chat! I‘ll tag you in a spoiler post perhaps 🤔 1w
TheBookHippie @Cuilin I think flagging is my book love language 🤣😅 I generally do quotes to print out -quotes to write on and quotes to ponder 😅🙃😊 1w
TheBookHippie @Cuilin I‘m also tracking the LGBTQIA undercurrent 1w
mcctrish I‘m here for the flagging - I only watched this before and I replaced my childhood teddy with a brand new Gund at the time and named him Elliot. He went everywhere with me. 1w
Cuilin @mcctrish 🧸 cute. I loved the TV adaptation more than the movie. 1w
Cuilin @Bookwormjillk I recommend, it‘s interesting. 1w
mcctrish @Cuilin I only watched the mini series - I was in Grade 12 but now I might try and dig up the movie 1w
Cuilin @mcctrish It‘s good. I think Emma Thompson (love) plays Sebastian‘s mom, but I don‘t think anybody can play Ryder like Jeremy Irons. 1w
ElizaMarie I‘m enjoying the ride so far —- but have no idea what I‘m reading or where this story is going. I feel like I‘m reading into the “friendship” as more? But maybe it‘s just me. We will see —- also have not seen the movie or read any reviews so fresh eyes here! —- these books yall pick are generally not something I‘ve ever ventured towards before (part of the fun) 1w
Bookwormjillk @ElizaMarie not just you 1w
dabbe @mcctrish 💜🩶🧡 1w
dabbe The way Ryder describes Sebastian re: his beauty reminds me of Nick describing Jay Gatsby. Definitely more feelings going on here. 💜🩶🧡 1w
Bookwormjillk @dabbe do you think Nick had feelings for Gatsby? 1w
lil1inblue @Cuilin I highlighted the same passage. Such stunning writing. 😍 1w
lil1inblue @TheBookHippie "flagging is my book love language" makes me feel seen. ? #hardsame 1w
lil1inblue @dabbe Ooh. Interesting comparison. I also got Dorian Gray vibes. Definite feelings. 💖 1w
dabbe @lil1inblue Ooh, good one, too! 🧡🩶💜 1w
dabbe @Bookwormjillk I seriously do. There is also an inference to a sexual encounter between Nick and Mr. McKee in chapter 2. The narrative ends with an ellipsis (...) after Nick and Mr. McKee leave a party, suggesting a passage of time and a sexual encounter. This is supported by details like Nick being in the bedroom and Mr. McKee being in his underwear, which would have been unusual for two heterosexual men to be in that situation in the 1920s. (edited) 1w
dabbe @Bookwormjillk I also think so because of his relationship with Jordan, a tomboy-ish female who plays golf. And that relationship doesn't work out, nor did his one with the girl back home. He seems in love with Gatsby or the idea of him. All inferences, but hard ones to ignore. 1w
lil1inblue @dabbe @Bookwormjillk Now I want to re-read Gatsby. I read it in school in the 90s, so we obviously didn't explore homosexual themes (gasp! 😱🤣 ). I see what you mean, Denise, but don't remember details. 🤔 1w
dabbe @lil1inblue 💜🩶🧡 1w
Bookwormjillk @lil1inblue @dabbe I‘ll have to pay more attention next time I re-read! 1w
dabbe @Bookwormjillk Whoah! Please forgive the overzealous teacher in me! I never picked up on that when I first read it. It's only after YEARS of teaching it that my brain (and wormhole digging) got me to this point. I hate sounding like a know-it-all. I'm so sorry. 🧡💜💛 1w
Bookwormjillk @dabbe no! I appreciate it. I love Gatsby and I re-read it every year so I‘m happy to have a new angle to look at. Thank you! 1w
Clare-Dragonfly Oh good, I‘m so glad I‘m not the only one seeing the subtext (and that it will get even more explicit)! When Sebastian was wearing Ryder‘s tie I was like “it can‘t be, this is a WWII novel” and then the teddy bear and he‘s weird but charms everyone and one of his friends at the party is an aesthete… and then the aesthete tells SEBASTIAN that he‘d like to fill him full of ARROWS… and I‘m delighted that it‘s totally gay. 🏳️‍🌈😁 1w
dabbe @Bookwormjillk 🧡🩶💜 1w
dabbe @Clare-Dragonfly 🧡🩶💜 1w
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BarkingMadRead
Brideshead Revisited | Evelyn Waugh
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Cuilin I forgot this started with Ryder‘s disillusionment with army life. I love the writing. 2w
Bookwormjillk You are so right about Hooper and cocoa. 2w
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willaful Urgh, my ebook tricked me and I missed the prologue! 2w
Clare-Dragonfly Well, I hate Hooper, but hopefully there isn‘t too much of him. (I‘m highly displeased with Ryder‘s assessment of the folks in the institution as happily oblivious, too, but I suppose it‘s the times.) 2w
ElizaMarie Oo can you add me to the list ::) please - I got the audible version with all the music and sound effects - really sucks you in 2w
mcctrish I feel like the vibe so far could easily be transferred to an office in the Midwest ( no offence to the Midwest) 2w
julieclair The writing is fabulous. I‘m invested already! 2w
Cuilin @ElizaMarie did you get the one with Jeremy Irons narrating? I love his voice. 2w
lil1inblue @mcctrish I'm midwestern through and through and this tracks. 🤣 2w
lil1inblue @cuilin @julieclair The descriptions are just amazing. Fantastic writing! 🤩 2w
ElizaMarie @Cuilin yes!!! It‘s so good ;) 2w
Crinoline_Laphroaig I've got print and Jeremy Irons. It's lovely except he says reveille unlike anything I've ever heard. 2w
willaful @Clare-Dragonfly yeah, not a fan! The times and the POV, I suppose. 2w
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BarkingMadRead
Age of Innocence | Edith Wharton
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Cuilin Archer 0 points May 💯 points!!!! From watching the Gilded Age, divorced women were completely ostracized, so ladies had to have their wits about them. 2w
willaful Archer was always trapped. He's just been feebly struggling instead of gnawing his own leg off like Ellen did. 2w
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lil1inblue @Cuilin 🎯🎯🎯 2w
Ruthiella @willaful Totally agree! 👍 2w
lil1inblue @willaful Very true. And in many ways, he's trapped in his own mind, as well! 2w
Bookwormjillk @willaful you got it 2w
Bookwormjillk Also I bailed on this book once before so this is my first time getting to the end. I wish I had known how much I would love this. Thanks @barkingmadread 2w
Clare-Dragonfly At the beginning when one of the moms expressed concern about May overexerting herself I was like oh, she‘s definitely pregnant and got REALLY mad at Archer. But then at the end of the chapter it turns out he had no idea, but she used it to get rid of Ellen! Clever May, self-sacrificing Ellen. 2w
Clare-Dragonfly @willaful Ooh, well put. 2w
dabbe I think I'm the only one here who wishes/ed (I've read it before) that Ellen and Archer would work out. That would mean them both bucking their society for the love they feel for one another. And yes, the only one who would be hurt would be May, but I somehow think she'd find a way to move on--or she'd shoot Archer dead with an arrow. Which is pretty much what her being pregnant has done to him. 🤔 2w
BarkingMadRead @dabbe as someone who was recently cheated on and dumped, i think it all sucks 😆 but if he‘s not happy, he should leave first and then have all the feels. This dancing around and flirting is childish and stupid 🤷🏻‍♀️ 2w
dabbe @BarkingMadRead Agree 💯. He knew he had feelings for Ellen BEFORE he married May; he should have never married her. She even gave him an out! He is the most frustrating and egotistical character, and I think I'm biased towards him because of Day-Lewis.
P.S. I am beyond sorry about your ex and what happened to you. It does suck--totally. 🧡🩶💛
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BarkingMadRead @dabbe DDL is a delight for sure 😍 2w
ElizaMarie Ugh @BarkingMadRead cheaters suck - I am so sorry you went through that 2w
mcctrish Archer is so frustrating! I wish like @dabbe that Ellen and he would get together against the odds. May only wins that he stays and is miserable and she‘s worth more than that 2w
dabbe @mcctrish All three of them deserve someone they love and who loves them. So tragic this story is! #channelingyoda 💛💜🧡 2w
TheBookHippie @BarkingMadRead ugh. Cheaters. Been there done that. Wishing you forever happiness going forward. 2w
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