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East of Eden | John Steinbeck
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Pre-bedtime reading. Finishing up #eoe if I can stay awake and drinking lemon-ginger tea out of my new litsy mug. Perfect way to wrap up a monday. Thanks @Litsy @TimSpalding

Chelsea.Poole Awesome! 1d
Crazeedi Where can I get a mug?? 1d
Litsy @Crazeedi So far, they're strictly prizes we've given out for photo contests and the like, but we hope to make them available on the LibraryThing (Litsy's sister site) Store soon! (edited) 1d
Cathythoughts Fab pic... loving the Litsy mug 😍 23h
Crazeedi @Litsy thanks for info! Guess I need to win a prize somehow!😉 19h
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East of Eden | John Steinbeck
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The makings of a nice Sunday morning. Being outside, coffee, nytimes, bujo, and my planned reading. Hoping to finish #eoe today so I can read the discussion from Friday! #selfcare

East of Eden | John Steinbeck
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Wow! I'm late for the close of the #EoE party, but I finally finished the book tonight. I would never have picked it on my own if @Cinfhen hadn't done the #buddyread & I'm glad I jumped in. I got hooked after the first 60 pages & had to see how this epic saga ended. Still working it over in my mind & headed to the last set of discussion questions now. The questions & group's perspectives helped me get so much more out of the story. Mahalo Cindy!😘

Cinfhen With pleasure, always 💕💕 3d
Cinfhen I‘ve enjoyed reading all of your comments🤓 I agree reading with the group really elevated this novel from good to great!!! Looking forward to our next one and so glad you were able to join us😘 3d
bookandbedandtea I love that map! 📍 3d
rkeo I read this book in high school, and it's stuck with me ever since. 2d
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#LilithJuly I still have East of Eden on my brain because when I saw today‘s prompt #LoveFool my first thought was Adam Trask. Adam falls head over heels in love with the wickedest female ever! Because of spoilers, I won‘t share the details but trust me....Cathy Ames is seriously disturbed!!!! And Adam aka #LoveFool is completely blinded to her evil and demented ways. This was a gripping read with an incredible group of buddy readers!!! #EoE

DebinHawaii Excellent pick! I just finished the book about 15 minutes ago. Better late than never! 😉Heading to the discussion questions next. Thanks again for picking it. I was hesitant at first but it was an interesting read & a great experience! 🤗💜 3d
KarenUK Perfect 👌💕 3d
Daisey Great choice for this prompt! 3d
UwannaPublishme Nailed it! 😊👌🏻 2d
erzascarletbookgasm Great pick! 👍 2d
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East of Eden | John Steinbeck
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#Unpopular opinion: I didn't like it. The writing felt flat and there was a lot of telling rather than showing. The characters seemed more like archetypes than real people. There was a lot of speechifying that I found off-putting. I think the theme was interesting, but it felt to me that the characters and story were in service to it, rather than it emerging from the story, if that makes sense. Thanks for the buddy read @Cinfhen #EoE 👇

CarolynM I'm off to look at the discussion questions now 4d
suvata Not every book is for every person. Personally, Steinbeck is one of my favorites. 4d
Cinfhen I LOVE an #unpopularopinion 🙌🏻I see what you‘re saying and your criticism is valid. I don‘t think this is the perfect novel or THE GREAT AMERICAN novel that Steinbeck thought it was, but it was definitely engaging, thought provoking and held my interest all 600 pages. So that makes it a TOTAL pick for me. Plus all the discussions really elevated my enjoyment. Thanks for joining in. 4d
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CarolynM @Cinfhen I certainly don't think it's bad and I wasn't bored which is why it's a so-so not a pan. I think I just don't find Steinbeck's characters very sympathetic (I hated ALL of them in The Grapes of Wrath). 4d
Cinfhen I think I‘m ready to revisit GoW! I haven‘t read it since HS and I HATED it back then 4d
batsy I'm with @Cinfhen I love this unpopular opinion, as well 😁 A lot of your criticism rings true for me but I found it engrossing, all the same. The narrative pulled me in and I became invested in certain characters. I found the speechifying asides quite tiresome, as well. 4d
Kalalalatja I definitely agree about the characters feeling like archetypes, and the telling, not showing. I‘m glad there are some suffering opinions, it makes for livelier discussions 👍 4d
Susannah It‘s strange how a significantly flawed book can still get a high rating. I see a lot of what you‘re talking about, and I had my own issues with the Steinbeck family thread, which I felt was shoehorned in with the Trask‘s story, but I still gave it four stars. Reading is so subjective, isn‘t it? Great review! 4d
jillrhudy I can't stand Steinbeck! I feel like it's a character flaw or something! Melville either! 4d
rubyslippersreads You‘re not alone. I gave it a “pick” because it (mostly) held my interest, but it left me feeling that I need a palate cleanser like Betsy-Tacy or Anne of Green Gables. 😊 (edited) 3d
RaimeyGallant Great review. I love the word speechifying. I'm going to use it in a sentence today. 3d
UwannaPublishme Yay for your #unpopularopinion! Really appreciate your honesty. I agree it wasn‘t a perfect novel, but this Steinbeck fan was deeply engrossed in the story and the symbolism. And our provoking discussions doubled the pleasure! 3d
erzascarletbookgasm I agree about the archetype characters..some parts are like lecture notes to me, but it held my interest to the end. 3d
mrp27 Great review and I can see your points! 2d
Ruthiella *breathes a sigh of relief* I disliked this book too! I found the biblical parallels OTT and Cathy too one dimensional! I liked GoW better but mainly as a historical perspective of America‘s ugly history. 4h
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🎧🚙 I only started this today but I already 1- can't wait to get back in the car to listen to more of it and 2- feel horrified on Sweetie's behalf. As someone who has always struggled with weight, her mother's attitude is heartbreaking and I want to give her a big hug. Since I'm home now I'm hoping to finish up #EoE.

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My favourite #OrangeAndBlack books have to be this #PenguinClassic #Orange edition! I've only one out of this stack, but I can't wait to read them all! Thinking of East of Eden next ...Which one would you suggest for me to read next?
#Classics #Pebguinbooks #ClassicsRead #booknerd #bookhaul #bibliophile

BarbaraJean Soooo pretty!! 😍 I‘d recommend East of Eden—my favorite of what I‘ve read by Steinbeck, and a perfect summer chunkster read! 5d
BooknerdsLife @BarbaraJean Awww Thank you🥰💖 I love Steinbeck‘s writing too & this one is definitely on top of my TBR too 😊 Great idea of a summer read 🙌🏼 Thanks 😘 5d
CarolynM @Cinfhen has just finished up a buddy read of East of Eden. You might be interested in the discussions when you've read the book. #eoe (edited) 4d
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LiterRohde My vote would be for Lovecraft. 4d
BooknerdsLife @CarolynM Awww Thank you for the hashtag 🙌🏼💖 I didn‘t realise there was a buddy read til it was too late. But will definitely look into the discussions when I read it. :) xx 4d
BooknerdsLife @LiterRohde That would be my second choice 😄👍🏼 Been wanting to reading for years! 4d
DivineDiana 🙋‍♀️ 4d
BooknerdsLife @DivineDiana 👍🏼💗 3d
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Question 7 Part 4
Share your final thoughts about #EoE❣️
What book should we read next?

sisilia Buddenbrooks 💖 5d
Cinfhen @sisilia I‘m not familiar with that book but it sounds AWESOME!!!!! 5d
sisilia It has been in my TBR list for ages @Cinfhen Not sure if @batsy has read it; I remember it was in her TBR, too 😃 5d
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batsy @sisilia Yup, still TBR and has been for ages as well 😆 4d
CarolynM @sisilia I hadn't heard of it either but it certainly sounds interesting. 4d
mrp27 Although flawed a great story so happy I finally read it. I must say its ruined the movie for me. I used to love it and now I don't think I do anymore. I need to see it again soon to compare. (edited) 4d
staci.reads The Tennant of Wildfell Hall (Bronte), Alias Grace (Atwood), Lonesome Dove (McMurtry), Native Son (Wright)have all been on my tbr for a long time. This could be motivation to start one 4d
staci.reads I really enjoyed reading East of Eden. I struggled with his issues with female characters, and as I've mentioned, I struggled with his mash up of fiction and family history. Still, the book was engaging and there were some great characters. Thanks @Cinfhen for hosting this! I appreciate the motivation to finally pick this one up! 4d
UwannaPublishme Despite the flaws, I enjoyed the depth of Steinbeck‘s style and storytelling. My life has been enriched after meeting Samuel and Lee. Cathy, well, her lack of conscience will still haunt me for some time. 😱 Now I must watch the movies! 4d
UwannaPublishme I have so many classics on my TBR. Maybe we need to take a Steinbeck rest and choose a female author next time? 4d
UwannaPublishme @Cinfhen Applause to you for being the best organizer and host! 🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻 And much gratitude to you and our amazing group. You all made this such a memorable read. 🤗🙌🏻 4d
Cinfhen Awwww, thank you @UwannaPublishme this was a GREAT GROUP of readers!!! I‘d love to read Alias Grace @staci.reads @batsy @sisilia @mrp27 @CarolynM with all of you and the others!!! 3d
rubyslippersreads I loved the group read, but I didn‘t love the book. Interesting and hard to put down in places, but most of it was too sordid and unhappy for my taste. But @Cinfhen did a fabulous job of leading us, and I look forward to another read with this great group! 😊 3d
CarolynM Thanks again for the buddy read @Cinfhen and the excellent questions. I've really enjoyed the discussions @batsy @UwannaPublishme @staci.reads @rubyslippersreads @Simona @Susannah @Reviewsbylola @mrp27 @sisilia @erista thank you all (I hope I haven't missed anyone out). One thing I wanted to ask, does anyone know who are the three men he references in chapter 34? I feel like I'm meant to know who he means but I can only guess. 3d
mrp27 I'm in for Alias Grace. 3d
Susannah I am so happy finally to have read East of Eden, and I loved having all of you discuss it with. Thank you! As for hefty books I‘d love to take on as a buddy read, I‘ve been thinking of both The Portrait of a Lady and An American Tragedy. Apparently, summer is my favorite season for American classics. 😊 3d
Cinfhen I‘m so happy you joined the buddy read @Susannah @rubyslippersreads and I look forward to our next one.....which probably won‘t be until November 😂😂😂I‘m traveling most of the summer and September is always a busy time and I have my parents staying with me in October so..... we shall see 3d
Cinfhen I need to go back and look @CarolynM you‘ve peeked my interest ( chapter 34) I‘m also still wondering why he said the letter written in Part One is the “key to the novel” 🤔🤔🤔 3d
UwannaPublishme @rubyslippersreads Since you have a DVD player, I can send you the Jane Seymour version if you want to watch it. 3d
DebinHawaii Even with its faults, it was a quite the epic story & overall a pick for me. I'm very glad to have read the book as I don't think I would ever have done it on my own. The discussions had much to do with it as I got so much more out of it than I would have reading it by myself so mahalo to everyone & especially to @Cinfhen for being a fabulous host. (And I too would love a chunkster from a female author for the next one.) 🤗 3d
rubyslippersreads @UwannaPublishme I‘m dying to watch it! Thanks so much! My email is rubyslippersreads@yahoo.com 3d
rubyslippersreads @DebinHawaii You summed up my feelings perfectly! 3d
UwannaPublishme @CarolynM Couldn‘t find anything about the 3 men in the Steinbeck journal or bio. In online discussions, these names were thrown around: 1. Rockefeller and Carnegie. 2. Hearst and Hitler and 3. FDR. We can only guess! 2d
CarolynM @UwannaPublishme Thanks for looking. I thought of Carnegie and FDR but wasn't sure if they really fit and I didn't have anyone for 2 (was only thinking of Americans) 2d
erzascarletbookgasm I can see how this is considered to be epic or ambitious piece of work by Steinbeck, even though there‘re some weaknesses but I enjoyed it overall. Thanks for the brilliant questions @Cinfhen and the discussions by the buddy readers were fantastic! 2d
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Question 6 Part 4

What is the significance of Adam‘s dying words to Cal?

CarolynM I'm not sure. I don't think I really understood the full significance of the "timshel" thing. Maybe that everyone makes their own choice - one person's choice may affect someone else, but what they do in response is their choice. So I guess he meant that going to war was Aaron's choice, not Caleb's. 4d
mrp27 I'm undecided. I like to think it was Adam's way of saying he forgave Cal as we all make our own choices. But was he referring to Aaron's choice to enlist or to Cal's choice to drive him to enlist? Can go either way. (edited) 4d
Cinfhen I think you‘re both correct @mrp27 @CarolynM by saying “Timshel” Adam was letting Cal know that we are all in charge of our own destinies and our own actions and the bigger gift was to let cal know the internal struggle (his moral inheritance ) about being born evil was something he had the power to change/overcome. That he was inherently good and his mother‘s genes didn‘t have to dictate his life. 4d
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UwannaPublishme @Cinfhen Well said! I‘m hoping that Adam also chose this symbolic word to acknowledge his own shortcomings in the choices he made as a father to both boys. 4d
UwannaPublishme Did anyone else think of the word “Rosebud” while reading this last chapter? 😆 4d
rubyslippersreads @CarolynM @mrp27 @Cinfhen @UwannaPublishme I think you‘re all right about why Adam chose that word, but does Cal know about all the previous discussions, or is Lee going to have a lot of explaining to do? 3d
mrp27 @UwannaPublishme I'm a classic movie junkie, loved Citizen Kane, and that's exactly what I thought! 🤣🤣 (edited) 3d
mrp27 @rubyslippersreads Lee definitely has lots of explaining to do! 3d
UwannaPublishme @mrp27 😁🛷👍🏻 3d
DebinHawaii @UwannaPublishme 🤣🤣🤣Total 'Rosebud' moment. I took Adam's 'timshel' after Lee's pleading with him to set Cal free was that Adam forgave him but that Cal needed to choose to be free from the guilt & forgive himself. 3d
UwannaPublishme @DebinHawaii You make a great point about the ending. Self-forgiveness is the key. 👍🏻 2d
Blaire @DebinHawaii finally finished and agree with this and @cinfhen assessment. So much of parts 3 and especially 4 were about free will and genetics not deciding destiny. 9h
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Question 5 Part 4
How is Abra influential in the novel? Why are Lee, Aron & Cal all drawn to Abra?

Reviewsbylola Abra kind of annoyed me tbh. I am not sure why. I feel like maybe she became such a large part of the story so quickly that I just never was able to come around to her. 4d
batsy I wonder if Abra was presented as a kind of maternal figure, or rather that was what she represented to them. To Aron it was that weird Oedipal maternal thing maybe, to Cal also but as a challenge to him as well. I don't know. Steinbeck can't even write a young female character without making her seem vaguely sexually manipulative 😐 If he removes sex from the picture when writing about a woman, he makes the woman wholly pious and good (Liza). 4d
batsy 👆🏽 Which is why I wish there was more of Dessie! 4d
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sisilia That‘s well put @batsy She is the missing female figure in the family 4d
Cinfhen I had that similar feeling @Reviewsbylola she was introduced so late in the novel and then became so central to the plot. She was definitely a plot device but @batsy makes a good point. She was the “maternal” figure the boys were missing, even Lee was raised without a mother. 👇🏼 4d
Cinfhen Abra also had an unscrupulous father but she chose to use his weaknesses to better herself unlike Adam and Aron who couldn‘t deal with their parents sins. 4d
CarolynM Get out of my head @batsy ? we are in agreement again. As I said before I didn't like his treatment of the female characters - even Dessie had to die a horrible premature death! I liked Abra but I think her purpose was to be the "real" woman - not perfect but not evil. (edited) 4d
mrp27 I agree as well that Abra was the maternal figure and she was Cathy's opposite, the yin to the yang the good vs evil. 4d
Cinfhen Yes, @CarolynM Abra was meant to be the combination of good & evil coexisting harmoniously 4d
batsy @CarolynM Haha 😆 If I read another one of Steinbeck's big books in the future I'll definitely be paying close attention to how the female characters are treated 🧐 4d
UwannaPublishme Great points again from all! Abra could have had more impact to the story if Steinbeck ditched the stories about his mother and developed Abra‘s character and background much earlier. 4d
staci.reads @batsy Yes. You nailed what I had been feeling about the female characters. 4d
rubyslippersreads @batsy @CarolynM I could read a whole book about Dessie (though perhaps written by someone other than Steinbeck. 😏) (edited) 3d
DebinHawaii The whole "mother" scene under the willow with Abra & Aron really skeeved ??me out. I do think she was good for Cal but like most of you, I didn't form an attachment. 3d
mrp27 @DebinHawaii I agree, that was a little creepy! 2d
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