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Women who Run with the Wolves: Contacting the Power of the Wild Woman | Clarissa Pinkola Est's

I alluded to this in a previous post, but the most lasting traditions in my family center around bedtime routines. We've tried a lot of things, but this one has stuck the longest. Since my younger kid was 2 or 3, we've been doing a bedtime routine we call "gratefuls, sorries, and intends" in which we go around and each list one thing from the day for which we're grateful, one thing for which we're sorry, and one thing we intend for the next day.⬇️

ImperfectCJ Over the past year, we've also been reading one entry from The Daily Stoic. When we have overnight guests, they join in. When the college kid comes home for breaks, they join back in. If someone's out of town, we'll often schedule calls for bedtime so we can keep the routine. I was interviewed about it for a local radio segment about how families were weathering the pandemic. We don't have many other traditions, but I'm grateful we have this one.

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lil1inblue This is an absolutely beautiful tradition. I so adore and admire it! What wonderful memories it must make. 💓🥰💓 1d

ImperfectCJ @lil1inblue My spouse and I were reflecting on the fact that, because we started doing the routine when he was so young, our son (now 16) likely has no concrete memories of bedtime without this routine. It's a humbling reminder of how parents shape their children's experience of life. I'm grateful we have this one intentional tradition in addition to the many sometimes not as awesome unintentional habits and routines our kids are accustomed to. (edited) 1d

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ElizaMarie I love this!!! 1d

kspenmoll What a beautiful tradition! We used to say highlights & lowlights of the day before bed. My son remembers; maybe yours will at some point. 1d

mavey @ImperfectCJ such beautiful tradition! 1d

ImperfectCJ @kspenmoll I like highlights/lowlights! We did "likes and dislikes" during dinner for a while, but that one fell by the wayside, while gratefuls and sorries has endured. I wonder what will happen when our son goes off to college, if my spouse and I will keep the bedtime routine (I hope so; I like that touching base each evening). 1d

dabbe L💜VE everything about this! And I hope you and your spouse keep it up, too. 🧡💜🩶 1d

AnnCrystal A beautiful tradition 💝💝💝. 19h

Cuilin Such a beautiful tradition. 18h

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GingerAntics

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

I wonder how accurate this claim is, because I am almost 40, I‘ve hand many nightmares, night terrors, and nocturnal panic attacks (thanks Wil Wheaton for that term) in my life, but I have never had a dream like she describes. Maybe it‘s just me. She would have me believe it is, but I‘m curious about evidence for this.
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lil1inblue I'm 45 and have had all the nightmares and terrors you describe. I've had some healing lucid-like dreams about specific people. But also never what she described in the book. But my terrors and nightmares started when I was 7 and are very much trauma related, so I wonder if that has something to do with it. 1d

GingerAntics @lil1inblue yeah, I‘ve had a recurring weird dream for as long as I can remember, and it‘s trauma related. So I have no clue what this lady is talking about. I‘m sitting here thinking, what are you supporting sources? Thanks. lol 1d

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ElizaMarie @lil1inblue I am curious also about how Trauma interferes. I have also had a variety of nightmares/terrors, mostly r/t to the trauma I had experienced. 1d

lil1inblue @GingerAntics @ElizaMarie First and foremost - sending virtual hugs! 🫂 Secondly, now I'm waiting here hoping someone who has had this dream will fill us in! 🤣🫠 1d

kspenmoll Can you tell me page # this quote is from? Thx! 1d

GingerAntics @ElizaMarie @lil1inblue it‘s feeling pretty universal NOT to have this dream at the moment. I definitely think we need more information about trauma response in this process. 1d

Bookwomble The claim of universality is a red flag for me. Not even the actual universal experiences of birth and death are the same for everybody, much less dream experiences. She negates her claim by saying it would be "remarkable if..", not "impossible that...". I wouldn't vex yourself overly much about a crass generalisation. And, I'm bookending @lil1inblue 's virtual hug, if you wish to accept it ?❤️ 1d

GingerAntics @kspenmoll well, on my phone it‘s at the bottom of 183 into 184. On my iPad it will be different! I can check that later today, and later than that my hard copy at home. It might be easier to tell you it‘s near the end of chapter 2, the second sentence after the heading “The Dark Man in Women‘s Dreams.” 1d

kspenmoll @GingerAntics That is enough- thanks for info. I know where you mean! 1d

Chrissyreadit @GingerAntics @lil1inblue @ElizaMarie @kspenmoll @Bookwomble I am not an expert in Jungian psychology- but there are aspects of this to clarify through a somatic lens for anyone who is interested: 1. Dreams themselves are semi archetypal- our brain uses information through a lens it feels connected to to process information. It does not make sense some of the time- and we do not always remember our dreams. I read the section just now but not the 1d

Chrissyreadit chapter so my information is through a somatic developmental lens. She is talking about how women process their sense of safety within themselves. A comprable dream is any one where you felt helpless. the goal of internal work is that the psyche develops the tools, support and information it needs to feel safe and confident. In the Estes lens she suggests that all women experience a dream where they feel helpless or thwarted or harmed- and by age 1d

Chrissyreadit 25 is roughly the developmental stage from dependence to independence (late adolescence to adulthood). Psychological developmental theory is that we all go through stages of development- Jungian theory has an emphasis on dream work to process it. The reality is we all dream- but we do not all understand or interpret dreams the same way. I would not consider it quite so literally- it is an archetype- rather recognizing that dreams in which you 1d

Chrissyreadit felt powerless were meant to help you identify and find your strength and use your fear to find safety. Trauma will completely impact dreams. The brain wants us to find paths of safety from literal danger compared to existential danger. I look forward to hearing all of your continued thoughts- i hope this makes sense- and feel free to add your perspective. 1d

GingerAntics @Chrissyreadit the psychological development theory makes sense to me… I guess I‘ve never been into too much of Young. I just couldn‘t get through his writings. I guess I was just put off by her description. I think yours was much better. If that‘s the case, I‘ve been having this dream since I was in preschool, so maybe I‘m still off. 15h

GingerAntics @Bookwomble It certainly felt like an over generalisation, even over simplification. If this is really her dissertation, I have no clue how she managed to get her PhD. 15h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads I am a psychologist who never heard of this and never had the dream 14h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics LOL Exactly!! 14h

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads is Jungian theory used much these days? I feel like it‘s rather dated in that sense. Maybe I‘m wrong, though. 14h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics It IS a personality THEORY which has its points but it is not a form of psychotherapy that is used. These days therapists use “evidenced-based” treatment and that is certainly not. 11h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads I did not like this book when came out many , many years ago. A couple of my friends were reading it. It seemed made up to appeal to a certain audience because it was supposed to speak about women, and as you said, there is too much generalization. It did not resonate with me. Like I said, I have never heard of that term or such a dream and I go way back in the day. (edited) 11h

lil1inblue @chrissyreadit Ok, now it's making more sense. I was interpreting the word "initiatory" in a different (and incorrect in this context) way. So I've been having my version of this dream since I was 7. ?‍? 6h

Chrissyreadit @DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics Evidence based practice recognizes that sleep cycles and dreams are vital parts of mental health. The way humans make meaning and feel safe differs by culture- but still important to recognize in all evidence based therapy as a practice. Another example is the book

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lil1inblue @GingerAntics I remember reading a little Jung in college, but it was for lit classes. 🤣 6h

Chrissyreadit Her use of jungian psychology and archetypes is what was known and understood- but i personally do not believe in discounting foundations in understanding. Today we use Parts Theory- and those parts have archetypal meaning/identity. We use the stories we tell ourselves to support the decisions we make and are living in real time where false narratives are being accepted as true. I have not read enough of this book to offer an opinion on this work 6h

Chrissyreadit But the lens she is offering is meaningful because stories and the way we make sense of them are not only meaningful but still used today. Specifically consider how the Bible is used with both literal and figurative meanings and at times weaponized. 6h

TheBookHippie I think a point to mention here is something the departed Leslie Jordon would say about church”If it wasn‘t for me I just left it under the pew, because someone else must need to hear it. I just took what I needed for me.” In books like this that‘s true too. Use what speaks to you. Leave the rest for someone who needs it. Is she generalising -perhaps but there‘s some really good things in here that have helped countless people. That‘s wonderful. 6h

Chrissyreadit @lil1inblue I would say in this lens it indicates you had to become independent or face taking care of yourself through a need for safety and what are the ways you found safety….. 6h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @Chrissyreadit I agreed that it is a personality THEORY that has its good points. But it is a theory. Not proven by research. I get worried about people just relying on such when they have serious problems such as suicidal thoughts which do necessitate evidenced-based treatment . I‘ll bow out here though B/C I have a different perspective based on my experience of providing treatment over many years. I do love personality theories though. (edited) 5h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @TheBookHippie How do you know it‘s helped “countless people”? 5h

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads I‘m REALLY struggling with this book. I‘m just not getting into it and I‘m not get the same feeling as other people, it feels like. I think it‘s horrible, repetitive writing and total BS. It‘s about women‘s empowerment, but somehow there is always a man to the rescue in the end and she‘s really stretching that to be “women‘s inner strength.” Yeah, I don‘t think anyone ever thought that before you, lady. 5h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @Chrissyreadit I have been a clinical psychologist for over 40 years and do not do dream interpretation and do not know anyone who does. It was not part of my graduate school training. I know folks love this book and like I said I will bow out. I am glad that you find it helpful. For reasons, it‘s not for a person like me. (edited) 5h

GingerAntics @lil1inblue lit class? Hm. I read a tiny bit in psychology, but he was very verbose and it was mostly like “hey, this is the history of the science so we‘re just touching upon it. 5h

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie that 5h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics Generally agree with you! 🥰 5h

GingerAntics @Chrissyreadit like narrative therapy. That makes sense. I always thought that was about personal narratives, but I suppose personal narratives are informed by cultural stories. 5h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads many women I‘ve mentored and my sister in law, many teachers I work with. 5h

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads the author does make these sweeping claims and I‘m like, show your work! Although, if you go to any review section of this book on any website, there seem to be two camps “oh this is so groundbreaking, how revolutionary” and “this is drivel.” 5h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads I like theories that fit with human nature in general not specific to any culture. My approach is humanistic (Carl Rogers, etc.). I am a person who does feel that all people are searching to be themselves. I see people of all colors, cultures, genders and classes and in most ways I think humans are the same. When theory does not even fit with who I am, it‘s not for me. I acknowledge it‘s my approach and my opinion. 5h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads to add over 30 years since this book has been out still women mention it as helping them when speaking to me after I give a talk or speech about surviving multiple traumas and rape. Not every book is for every person and not every practice is either. Doesn‘t mean it‘s not valid. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics update copy probably helps the last third of my book has “proofs” I think it‘s this is one woman‘s theory of how to heal. Is there anything for me, or someone I know. I just leave it at that. Somethings in here have truly helped people and for that I am grateful. I‘m rereading it after decades and some of it I agree with some I think well that‘s not for me and I turn the page 🤣🙃😅. 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @TheBookHippie This would take a long discussion not necessary on Litsy. I really don‘t agree. I know what really heals trauma. It is not this. Treatment of adults abused as children has been my life focus. (edited) 4h

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie a lot of people do feel this has really touched them and done something for them. I get that. I‘m just not entirely sure I‘m one of those people. I feel like I‘m betraying the home team or something in saying that. I‘m just not buying into her interpretations, because I know those are not the initial intent by any means and she‘s acting like these have always been the true, hidden meaning. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics oh I get that. I don‘t always agree either. But you know I don‘t think anything is an end all be all. 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads not heal, helped. I too know what heals. 4h

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads I can honestly say I wouldn‘t want a younger me reading this. I would have been so worried “oh, I didn‘t have this dream, what‘s wrong with me.” Maybe it needs an update. Maybe a whole new revamp. I‘m just not sure. I agree, this isn‘t going to help people in any statistical way. Maybe because the people who find this helpful aren‘t usually in study cohorts? I don‘t know. 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads it‘s been my life. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics definitely a grain of salt fits here. If it truly helped people who am I to say anything. I did read it when it came out and didn‘t think much either way. I‘m rereading it seeing what people say helped them. It‘s very interesting to me. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I agree “All and only I know the secret “ two things I have issues with. Clearly 🫠 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @TheBookHippie What troubles me is that many think such stuff actually is what they need for healing and don‘t get the professional help that is necessary. And then what happens. 4h

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie okay, that does make me feel better. Totally agree on the “only I have a secret” and “all.” That just sounds like a cult leader to me. 4h

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads that‘s what I was thinking. People are reading this and oh it‘s changed my life. I‘ve healed myself. What have you, and in reality they need help and never seek it out. Again, this was written in a much different time, so perhaps when this was written that was the norm. 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads I believe in a combination of things. Initially books saved my life. Especially as a child it was my only option. So I don‘t discount it in others. Not all therapies work for all people. I agree it is important to find what works for you. I don‘t believe in talk therapy, I do believe in ASMR -for myself. Talk therapy works for some. It‘s all nuance. Anytime anyone says this is the only way- there‘s a problem. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics EXACTLY and all religious trauma survival people say NO ! 🙃 4h

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I will 100% agree with this. I‘ve had to many bad experiences with talk therapy to trust it now. Don‘t even get me started on the non-diagnosis of “codependent.” Just another way the cult of AA has infiltrated the rest of our lives. I am so interested in narrative therapy, honestly. I‘ve been writing original works since I was 7, so I feel like it‘s right up my alley and would make more sense for me. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics when this was written nothing was talked about at all around here, especially for women -I think that is what is missing in this equation ... it was a whole new thought. 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @TheBookHippie Oh My! Talk therapy is all I am. It‘s all I have done my whole life. It‘s not for everyone for sure and I not saying I am right. I can only speak from my experience and know for sure that I am thankful for having the knowledge skills to help people change their lives and save lives. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I agree. 💯💯💯💯 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads there‘s many new studies on why it does not work for some people. It does however save many lives including many young people I have worked with. For that I‘m grateful. I just don‘t think it should ever be said it‘s all or the only thing that works. 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics at the end of the day books do save peoples lives. It‘s an important tool. This is this persons narrative. I liken it to if I wrote my narrative. It would help some, anger some and lots of arguing would happen. 🙃 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads This is making me sad. Because of your bad experiences. Talk therapy really saves lives for sure. My whole profession, what I stand for is being attacked. I‘m surprised but nothing surprises me anymore. I could tell you all kinds of stories about my work in nursing homes, with people who woke up with spinal cord injuries, women prostituted as children. I have been there and would bet my life on the good of psychotherapy and so would my clients 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics Codependency is one of my major things I treat. One of my favorite books is “Codependent No More”. I could quote it. Are y‘all being prejudiced against psychotherapists because of your bad experiences? There‘s good and bad in any profession 4h

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie and we would all cackle at the arguing! It could be great entertainment!!! Shall we call a publisher? 🤣😂🤣 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads it‘s not a personal attack. I know you take it that way, but it has harmed people. We‘d have just as many stories of the harm. Like anything else that‘s just life. It‘s why it‘s important to find a good therapist, a good therapy and hope it all works. How very fortunate your clients found you. Not everyone has been so fortunate. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics well it is written and almost finished. 👀👀👀 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads I have nothing else to say but psychotherapy has been proven as an effective treatment that will save thousands of lives today 4h

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads I tried to read that book. I couldn‘t stand it. It was more of this “I have all answers.” 🙄 And it was just AA cult drivel. It‘s not in the DSM. It never has been. Can my experiences please be taken seriously and not written off? I greatly respect your profession. I think it is vital and underused still today. I just don‘t think one type of therapy is the answer for everyone. Some people do amazing with talk therapy. 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads It‘s not personal. You‘re speaking against my profession in general. It sounds that way. 4h

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads some people don‘t. That is why there are many other types of therapy. Different people need different things, because every brain is different. I thought that was the point of the profession. It‘s why it‘s always been an interest of mine, and why I almost joined the profession (and often wish I had lately). 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics I am totally not saying there‘s only one type of therapy for everyone. Thanks for your response. 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics I use a variety of treatment approaches. But I do have a belief system that I have developed. I use anything out of my toolbox that works. 4h

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! I can‘t wait to read it!!! 4h

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads then I don‘t know what the argument is/hurt feelings are about. We‘re agreeing, then. 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads it helps some people not all people was my point. 4h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I‘ll put you top of the list. 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @GingerAntics @TheBookHippie Y‘all have a great day! It‘s all good. Yep, people have their different viewpoints for sure. Surprised by yours. I have my grandchildren overnight so will go. Books saved me as a child and they still do. I still appreciate the help I got from my therapist though. I can‘t find him. Given my age though, he‘s probably in his 80s now. (edited) 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads mine just retired AT 80. 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads enjoy your grandkids. Mine is coming tonight as well. 4h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @TheBookHippie I need to retire. (Sigh) I‘m working on it but you see my work means so much to me. 4h

TheBookHippie @DrSabrinaMoldenReads my therapist didn‘t take new patients on these last 15 years. I just had tea with her every few months. Remarkable woman who felt the same as you. 3h

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY THANK YOU!!! I feel so honoured! 3h

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie okay, those sound like the best therapy appointments ever!!! 3h

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics they were. 3h

DrSabrinaMoldenReads @TheBookHippie That‘s exactly what I‘m doing almost. I would love to hang out with her. (edited) 3h

lil1inblue @GingerAntics It does sound weird, but yes, I read a small amount of Jung for a lit class. I don't remember specifics, but what we read was mostly about archetypes. Then we moved on to how they show up in literature, etc. It was interesting from that perspective. 3h

lil1inblue @Chrissyreadit Oooh. That's something to think about. 🎯 Thank you! 💓🫂💓 3h

GingerAntics @lil1inblue that makes sense. I could see it be very valuable from that perspective. That actually sounds like a really fun lit class. I‘m not going to lie. 1h

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kspenmoll

Women who Run with the Wolves: Contacting the Power of the Wild Woman | Clarissa Pinkola Est's

Some places that healing, inspiration, miracles & more happen for me: my porch, my hummingbird friends, sunrises,our magnolia,the “Robert tree”,my garden,the river in my neighborhood that I walk by, the ocean. After all I am an Aquarian- Water, water, everywhere.🌊

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Chrissyreadit BEAUTIFUL 😍💛 2d

TheBookHippie So pretty! 2d

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Beautiful 👏🏼🤩💝🌊💝💦💝. 2d

lil1inblue Gorgeous! 😍🤩😍 1d

dabbe L💙VERLY! May I ask what the “Robert tree“? is? 💙🩵💙 1d

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kspenmoll

Women who Run with the Wolves: Contacting the Power of the Wild Woman | Clarissa Pinkola Est's

I don‘t think I would call this “dead and dismembered aspect”of myself back because she lives in me.The summer after I turned 30,I was in a car accident that took me 5+ years to recover from-I still go to PT now. At that time I was single & living in Boston,so I needed to go back to my parents in CT for surgery.I gave up my job,my apartment, my social life.Surgery was successful in rescuing a damaged nerve,but was I left in severe chronic pain.⬇️

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kspenmoll ⬆️ I was reduced to infancy. my mom massaged my drop foot nightly while we chatted. My dad spent his afternoons off watching a soap opera, General Hospital,( he was an MD so we laughed alot),when I recovered enough he held my arm while I took baby steps in our driveway.My mom and sister took me to the local pool helped me into my bathing suit so I could walk in the pool. Gifts from this experience: I met a woman who owned a needlepoint store.⬇️ 2d

kspenmoll ⬆️ she needed someone to spot her so she could go to lunch or take a break. I started working there in exchange for needlepoint canvases & yarn maybe twice a week for a couple of hours.My love for needlepoint started then.Another gift came much later when I could stand long enough to work in my dad‘s office.I had such fun with the staff & saw my dad in his professional capacity which was so special.While in the pool, a met a woman who also had⬇️ (edited) 2d

kspenmoll ⬆️Back surgery. We became lifelong friends, and I met my husband through her. Another gift: I was able to fly in a plane, lying down on 3 seats to visit my closest brother in Alaska. He my sister-in-law and my niece Lily, who was 6, drove all over Alaska with me lying down in the back of their Subaru. Lily & I remain close today because of those 6 weeks together. During all this time, I was able to reflect, create, laugh, love, & ⬇️ 2d

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kspenmoll ⬆️ & most importantly, live a slowed down life, in synch & in touch with my inner self. I “lost” a decade of my life, but that time was truly a gain, not a loss for me. if you read through this long, long epistle, thank you. #wildwomen (edited) 2d

AmyG Wow that is some story. 🙌🏻 2d

kspenmoll @AmyG Thank you you for listening my friend.💕💕 2d

AmyG I am happy you are here to write it. 😘 2d

Chrissyreadit Thank you so much for sharing your story!!! I am amazed by all the gifts you acknowledge-this literally brought me to tears. 💛 2d

Bookwormjillk That‘s quite the story! 2d

Amiable I am in awe of the fact that you can look back and appreciate that this terrible accident gave you positive things instead of only taking things away from you. That maturity and insight is a gift in itself. ❤️ 2d

Ruthiella ❤️❤️❤️ 2d

LeahBergen What an incredible story! 😭❤️ 2d

AnnCrystal 💝💝💝 Beautiful and incredible. Thank You for sharing this remarkable story of recovery. Love how you highlighted your gifts, and this is a wonderful teaching story on how we all need to value the light among dark times. I am so glad that you are here with us 💝💝💝. 2d

lil1inblue What an incredible story. Thank you for sharing it with us. I so admire your perspective. 💓💓💓 1d

ElizaMarie Your story is truly something! Thank you so much for sharing it. 1d

dabbe I am completely humbled by this. What a touchstone you are! Thank you for sharing such a heartbreaking and heartwarming story at the same time! And thank you for reminding me that in the darkest trenches, good things can still happen. And I L💙VE that you call them gifts. I'm just wowed. Thank you, my friend, and I'm so glad you're here! 🧡💜🩶 1d

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ElizaMarie

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

Amor Eterno - Brings me to tears every time I hear it. I personally enjoy Vicente singing it the most (because I like him the most), but of course, it's Juan Gabriel's song and Rocio Durcal brought a feminine beauty to it.

Links:
Chete: https://youtu.be/giRA5xFG294?si=Jz5FnN-PJOdFv3_0
Gabriel: https://youtu.be/RgKqxLAhRKE?si=8cm0zINc1WvEac-7
Rocio (with translation) : https://youtu.be/JRCQGw9y3O8?si=HPAo8RXPek6nOHC_

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I was in a severely abusive relationship, which almost killed me (literally). Not only was this physically abusive, but it was also emotional (the lasting effects have lingered). I used to dance, my whole life, since childhood, (tap, jazz, flocorico, ballet, cheer) I danced, used to dance in our relationship, around the house, wiggle here, wiggle there, sing, play... He frequently told me I was too ugly, fat, and unworthy of enjoying my body ⬇️

ElizaMarie I slowly stopped at the point of quitting. Now, I am hesitant to dance. My husband is amazing, loving, and healing. He is playful, and I am safe. My head sometimes forgets this.

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TheBookHippie 💜💜💜💜 I hope you dance. I have to tell my brain it‘s okay, you‘re safe now. Sending you light my friend. 💜💜💜💜 2d

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Ruthiella ❤️❤️❤️ 2d

lil1inblue I'm so glad you're safe now and have a supportive partner! I hope you're able to dance again. You deserve to enjoy being in your body. 💓🫂 💓 2d

BarkingMadRead I just want to hug you! 2d

DaveGreen7777 I am so sorry you were put through this from your abusive ex-partner but so happy for you that you were able to get away from him and find true happiness! 2d

nanuska_153 Sorry you went through this, it's so difficult to live with it even when you are finally free. Hope you find again the music within you and the joy to dance even if you start when you are alone ❤️ 2d

dabbe I am so saddened that you experienced this at the hands of someone who was supposed to love you. No one has any right to steal any of our joys. Your husband is a major mensch, and I'm so glad you have him in your life. Even if you just start out dancing in your head, I hope those hips start swaying. You are beautiful inside and out, and the universe would love to see you dance again. 🧡💜💛 2d

ElizaMarie @TheBookHippie - My brain 🧠 doesn't always want to listen to me, but sometimes, I can get it to follow my heart :) ♥️ 1d

ElizaMarie @Eggbeater @Ruthiella @Lil1inblue @BarkingMadRead - Thank you so much for your kind words. Yall are so sweet! 1d

ElizaMarie @DaveGreen7777 Thank you so much for your kind words. I am in a wholly better place, and am so thankful for it. I am happy, just need to find the little joys and incorporate them into my everyday. 1d

ElizaMarie @nanuska_153 Memory is rough, I am at times reminded of the past, which sometimes prevents me from living my now. I am working on it (with therapy, self-care/reflection, all those things. 1d

TheBookHippie @ElizaMarie SAME. It‘s a daily battle sometimes. Pockets of joy and routine work for me but mostly writing works. Also Mr BookHippie leaves me hand written notes, it helps a bunch. I think sometimes seeing it written out helps your brain. Sending you so much love. 1d

ElizaMarie @dabbe Thank you for your kindness. I am working on enjoying music more and, in turn, moving my body more. It's a process, but I am slowly gaining some joy back. 1d

kspenmoll I am so sad for you but so happy you kept on dancing & letting yourself express joy. So glad you are in a better place! 1d

dabbe @ElizaMarie Just do this, and laugh! 🕺🕺🕺 😍😂😍 1d

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ElizaMarie

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

My “La Loba's“ place would be a hammock on the beach. I love the sun, so during the day, I read out by the hammock, lightly swaying in the breeze (add a stand/table for drinks and snacks). At night, sleeping outside under the stars, hearing the waves. PERFECTION!

#WildWomenReading
#LaLobaWithin

TheBookHippie Oh this looks so peaceful. 2d

ElizaMarie @TheBookHippie My hamoock outside is not as serene, but it is still very lovely. I do enjoy sunbathing there, and reading.. Hammocks are just the best! 2d

lil1inblue Oh, this sounds so serene! 😍 Love hammock time! ❤ 2d

dabbe L🩵VERLY. 🩵💙🩵 2d

ElizaMarie @Lil1InBlue @Dabbe - Yes! It looks like such a peaceful place. Which is all too important. 1d

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ElizaMarie

Women who Run with the Wolves: Contacting the Power of the Wild Woman | Clarissa Pinkola Est's

Traditions ground me: didn't realize how much I rely on them
1. Dia de Los Muertos - we celebrated growing up, and my husband and I celebrate in our home
2. Tamales during winter
3. Reading Christmas Carol every Dec 1 - something I used to do with my grandmother
4. Bunuelos on NYE
5. Talking about our gratitude during Thanksgiving Dinner
6. Reading Jonathan Livingston Seagull on Sept 15 - Daddy's Bday
7. Taking the day off on my Bday - Oct 14 ⬇️

CaroPi, DebinHawaii, Cuilin, TheBookHippie, Deblovestoread, Chrissyreadit, zezeki, BookwormAHN, PathfinderNicole, GingerAntics, ravenlee, dabbe, nanuska_153, ncsufoxes, lil1inblue

ElizaMarie I am sure I have a ton more that I don't really consider traditions. Maybe I am thinking of rituals. One I would love to try but haven't - I would like to work more on spiritual traditions revolving around the seasons. I scream out/sing into the moonlight on full moons (not consistently). I would like to have some sort of water tradition too. I love the ocean, I used to crave it at certain parts of the year, sun bathe, lay in water, but ⬇️ 2d

ElizaMarie Since COVID and moving to VT, I haven't been near the beaches. I would like to work on bringing that into my life.

#WildWomenReading
#LaLobaWithin (edited) 2d

julieclair What a lovely list! 2d

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TheBookHippie Just lovely. 2d

Chrissyreadit I love this post and your traditions!💛 2d

lil1inblue What a wonderful list! The traditions for Dia de Los Muertos are so beautiful. ❤ 2d

dabbe L💜VERLY list! If you love JL Seagull, you'll love THE LITTLE PRINCE. 🧡💜💛 2d

nanuska_153 Buñuelos 🤤🤤 1d

ElizaMarie @JulieClair @TheBookHippie @ChrissyReadIt - Thank you! I enjoyed thinking about what traditions we hold dear to us. This exercise has also helped me identify others that, although not as strong, are ones I am cultivating in our home. 1d

ElizaMarie @Lil1InBlue Dia de Los Muertos is my favorite time of year! I love how much it brings us together across generations and families. (edited) 1d

TheBookHippie @ElizaMarie ♥️♥️♥️♥️ 1d

ElizaMarie @Dabbe - I am gonna read it on Libby soon, (just placed the hold) then eventually get my own copy :) 1d

ElizaMarie @nanuska_153 They are the best!!! 1d

dabbe @ElizaMarie It's on its way to you and should be there by Sunday. 🧡💜🩶 1d

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kspenmoll

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

Early morning coffee and a book. #wildwomen #doll #intuition

Chrissyreadit

Chrissyreadit I love worry dolls. And this picture is so aesthetically pleasing 😘❤️ 3d

lil1inblue 💓 💓 💓 💓 💓 3d

dabbe 💛💜🧡 3d

AnnCrystal 💝💝💝. 3d

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nanuska_153

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

I used to make up jingles about whatever I was doing and I was always listening to music and singing.At some point in my 20s I was raped and shortly afterwards I ended up in an abusive relationship that lasted many years.I can't really remember anything that happened for some time after the relationship ended, there is a blank space, I remember things that happened to me, but as if someone had told me a story, not as if I had actually lived them⬇️

nanuska_153 Then I remember a time when I was reconstructing myself, trying to act the way I used to be, putting back the pieces together. But during this time there was silence, I wasn't singing or listening to music, not like I usually did as if there was a constant soundtrack to my life. I managed to get back the soundtrack of my life and the singing, but the ability to make jingles I never got back. ⬇️ 3d

nanuska_153 I miss being the kind of person that can just make a tune about cheese just because it's so tasty. The first time I heard my daughter making up a stupid song while we were playing I got so emotional I had to leave the room so she wouldn't get scared. I love her jingles so much ❤️ This chapter was very interesting to me, because I don't know if I reconstructed myself through singing, but I definitely had to reconstruct myself in order to sing. 3d

nanuska_153 #wildwomenreading @Chrissyreadit @CaroPi @DebinHawaii @Cuilin @kspenmoll @TheBookHippie @JenniferEgnor @Deblovestoread @zezeki @BookwormAHN @PathfinderNicole @GingerAntics @ravenlee @dabbe @ElizaMarie 3d

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Chrissyreadit Thank you for sharing that part of you❤️I am so glad you are on this journey with us And i hope one day you and your daughter are making jingles together! 3d

Suet624 Thank you for sharing this with us. 💕💕 3d

Bookwomble ❤️‍🩹 3d

Cuilin I wish you many jingles, and maybe one day both you and your daughter can make sweet jingles together. 3d

Ruthiella ❤️❤️❤️ 3d

lil1inblue Thank you for sharing this. I hope you can find that musical magic again! 💓 💖 💓 3d

nanuska_153 @Chrissyreadit @Suet624 @Bookwomble @Cuilin @Ruthiella @lil1inblue Thank you all so much for your kind words 💕 2d

ElizaMarie Thank you for your bravery and for sharing your story with us. I am so sorry that you lost your safety, voice, and freedom. That carefree spirit to sing at a whim, giggle, and have a great time is so near and dear to me as well. I used to be very “silly“ (what it was labeled as), but men have chastized me for these personality quirks as well. It became unsafe. I am glad your daughter has a momma like you, who finds joy in her fun. ⬇️ 2d

ElizaMarie I hope you find your jingles again! (Do you watch Bob's Burgers? It's very Linda.) Maybe start small, it could come back. Add a verse or two to your daughter's? I am looking forward to hearing more about your progress and journey towards this. 2d

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