Happy Easter/Spring Shakes Lovers!!!
So many great drawings and photos of this scene. I think this is my favorite scene of the entire play. I‘m not a huge fan of Henry IV, but Hal is lovable in a naughty-boy-comes-to-his-senses kind of way. I just hope his play is better than part 2 of his father‘s.
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Lcsmcat The “deathbed” scene was touching, but I don‘t buy that he‘s really changed. It was too sudden and too convenient. 5y
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GingerAntics @Lcsmcat really? I felt like he was beginning to distance himself from Falstaff throughout the play. He spent very little time with him and a lot more on “official duties.” 5y
Graywacke Has Hal changed? He had some presence in part I, when the time called for it and a spiel about playing the roles. I liked Act iv a lot. Some terrific language. Has me thinking about play construction. (Does this work without some humor in acts ii-iii? Or do acts ii-iii spoil act iv?) 5y
Graywacke @GingerAntics @Lcsmcat Hal was maybe wavering regarding Falstaff...?? 5y
GingerAntics @Graywacke I feel like acts I-III don‘t match with IV and V. It‘s like the entire feel of the play shifts. The language in this act was great. Maybe my opinion is clouded by historical fact, but I think he has. Then again, if we go by historical fact, he never was a party animal as portrayed in P1. I‘m interested to see what Hal‘s own play looks like. Hopefully it‘s more entertaining than Acts I-III is this one. 5y
GingerAntics @Graywacke @Lcsmcat I think that gets laid to rest in Act V. 5y
Lcsmcat @Graywacke I liked act IV better too. There were some great speeches. And maybe it‘s the same problem with the writing that made the first three acts so slow, but I never bought Hal as a real person. (As strange as that sounds, since he was a real person.) 5y
Lcsmcat @GingerAntics I‘ve finished it, so we‘ll just have to agree to disagree. 5y
GingerAntics @Lcsmcat so have I. 🤷🏼♀️ 5y
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @GingerAntics I can‘t say I like Hal exactly, but I have found him complex and, when the time called for it, capable. I have a grudging respect. So I guess I found him real enough to suspend disbelief. 5y
Graywacke @Lcsmcat @GingerAntics I‘m not done. Was going to save act v for Sunday. Am I the only one? 5y
GingerAntics @Graywacke I was over the play, since the first three acts were so painful, so I just wanted to get through it. Then Act IV was so much better than the rest of the play and Act V followed suit, so in the end I wanted to know how it all ended. Of the other person I know who finished it already, it was a similar motivation. 5y
TheBookHippie @Graywacke nope -Me!! I saved it. I finally am getting through it without trouble 🤣🤣 or I just enjoyed this parts flow of language !!! 1-3 was rough 🤷🏽♀️😭🤪. I‘m glad I stuck with it!!! 5y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I agree. The first 3 acts were not pleasant, but Act IV was worth it. 5y
Graywacke @TheBookHippie oh, good. And same here. 5y
batsy @GingerAntics Yes, it felt the same for me in terms of an abrupt change. Act IV felt like such a shift from the previous three acts and the language here is superb. I'm glad to hear that Act V is more of the same. 5y
GingerAntics @batsy it definitely picks up and seems more like a Shakes play in the last two acts. No idea what was up in the first 3 acts. 🤷🏼♀️ 5y
Gezemice @batsy @GingerAntics I have been skipping this, however I watched a combined version of the two plays when we were reading Henry IV. It was mostly part 1, The deathbed scene and the last act of part 2 were included. I must say it made a lot of sense as it sounds like they combine the best parts of the two, and there is an ending which distinctly lacked in part 1. 5y
GingerAntics @Gezemice it almost makes more sense to me to just get rid of acts I-III of Part 2 and tack IV-V to the end of Part 1. 5y
Gezemice @GingerAntics This clearly is not as well loved as part 1 - my library has no copy of it which is why I have not read it - did not feel like tracking it down. 5y
GingerAntics @Gezemice if you do ebooks you can get one for free. The last two acts are the only ones really important for segueing into Henry V. I also have an overview like the one I had for part 1 5y
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