Republic | 
bailed#jumpstart2023 book 4
After much deliberation, I am bailing on this.
I am having difficulty with the format (it‘s conversations between philosophers) and I do not find myself pondering the musings on justice and societal structure.
I will 3000% be keeping it on my shelf so that I appear to be a smart person.
I bought this book cover for my kids a few years back. They no longer use it so I figured I would♡
My son's philosophy class is reading this. So I decided to read it too so we can have a 2 person book club. ♡♡♡
Our AirBNB came stocked with some quality heavy reading material.
First #tbrpile in 2019! These are the books I hope to read in January. Decided to reread Anne of Green Gables throughout 2019, and I so look forward to falling in love with Avonlea again 😍
Important thought for the day.
Up next. Not nearly as salaciously fun as Oedipus. 😐
#agameoffavorites @WhiskeyMistress @ErinSueG
I chose Sci-do and my favorite Sci-do author is Pierce Brown. One of his biggest influence for his Red Rising Series was Plato‘s Republic. Not sure it is his fav book but I thought it was interest how this work does really appear In this series. I love this series and can‘t choose a fav!
Accurate, I think. I think the order is correct #desire and emotion seem to be the driving force behind a lot of behavior. We could probably do better using knowledge more. #Quotsy #LitsyQuoteChallenge #QuotsyDec17
The best is to do injustice without paying the penalty; the worst is to suffer it without being able to take revenge. Justice is a mean between these two extremes. People value it not because it is a good but because they are too weak to do injustice with impunity.
Those who reproach injustice do so because they are afraid not of doing it but of suffering it.
For certainly old age has a great sense of calm and freedom; when the passions relax their hold, then, as Sophocles says, we are freed from the grasp not of one mad master only, but of many. The truth is, Socrates, that these regrets, and also the complaints about relations, are to be attributed to the same cause, which is not old age, but men's characters and tempers; for he who is of a calm and happy nature will hardly feel the pressure of age..
I see that you are indifferent about money, which is a characteristic rather of those who have inherited their fortunes than of those who have acquired them; the makers of fortunes have a second love of money as a creation of their own, resembling the affection of authors for their own poems, or of parents for their children, besides that natural love of it for the sake of use and profit which is common to them and all men.
He who is of a calm and happy nature will hardly feel the pressure of age. But to him who is of an opposite disposition, youth and age are equally a burden.
Until philosophers rule as kings or those who are now called kings and leading men genuinely and adequately philosophise, that is, until political power and philosophy entirely coincide, while the many natures who at present pursue either one exclusively are forcibly prevented from doing so, cities will have no rest from evils,... nor, I think, will the human race." (Republic 473c-d)
Do you mean that the tyrant will dare to use violence against the people who fathered him, and raise his hand against them if they oppose him? So the tyrant is a parricide, and little comfort to his old parent.
Money-makers are tiresome company, as they have no standard but cash value.
That's what education should be," I said, "the art of orientation. Educators should devise the simplest and most effective methods of turning minds around. It shouldn't be the art of implanting sight in the organ, but should proceed on the understanding that the organ already has the capacity, but is improperly aligned and isn't facing the right way.
In practice people who study philosophy too long become very odd birds, not to say thoroughly vicious; while even those who are the best of them are reduced by...[philosophy] to complete uselessness as members of society.
The society we have described can never grow into a reality or see the light of day, and there will be no end to the troubles of states, or indeed, my dear Glaucon, of humanity itself, till philosophers become rulers in this world, or till those we now call kings and rulers really and truly become philosophers, and political power and philosophy thus come into the same hands.
The soul takes nothing with her to the next world but her education and her culture. At the beginning of the journey to the next world, one's education and culture can either provide the greatest assistance, or else act as the greatest burden, to the person who has just died.
The object of education is to teach us to love what is beautiful.
If women are expected to do the same work as men, we must teach them the same things.
The heaviest penalty for declining to rule is to be ruled by someone inferior to yourself.
Y'all, I think there are reasons I've not read the classics. 🤔Tomorrow's class ought to be interesting... #schooldaze #backtoschool
"Probably the youth will say to himself in the words of Pindar -- 'Can I by justice or by crooked ways of deceit ascend a loftier tower which may be a fortress to me all my days?'"
Well, THAT'S a question for the modern era, isn't it? 2500 years later and people are still struggling with this... Or not struggling, unfortunately. ☹️️
I am re-reading this for the first time in 29 years for a classics book club. Didn't love this in college. I'm understanding it better this time around, but my gut reaction partway through Book 1 is still OMG SHUT UP ALREADY SOCRATES. I am ashamed to be so shallow yet relieved to admit it. 😕
I mean to. I really do. I know it's been years since I bought this book. (Even Plato himself looks like he's sick of my 🐄💩) But you know what? It's not as portable as the title implies. #aclassicihaventread #seasonsreadings2016 @RealLifeReading
Bodily exercise, when compulsory, does no harm to the body; but knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.
I love #PoliticalFiction, Political Satire and Dystopian Fiction. So I'm spoiled for choice for today's #PhotoadayNov16. But I decided to go back to the beginning. To the earliest known work of Political Fiction: Plato's Republic. @RealLifeReading
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