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Humboldt's Gift
Humboldt's Gift | Saul Bellow
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For many years, the great poet Von Humboldt Fleisher and Charlie Citrine, a young man inflamed with a love for literature, were the best of friends. At the time of his death, however, Humboldt is a failure, and Charlie's life has reached a low point: his career is at a standstill, and he's enmeshed in an acrimonious divorce, infatuated with a highly unsuitable young woman and involved with a neurotic mafioso. And then Humboldt acts from beyond the grave, bestowing upon Charlie an unexpected legacy that may just help him turn his life around.
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Billypar
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Want to see the angriest Ann Patchett has maybe ever been? Check out her rebuttal to a recent NYT op ed by David Brooks suggesting that literary fiction has lost its edge: https://youtu.be/tPrH7kqGKCY?si=S0lRArX-JaRQyu3y

I thought maybe it was an overreaction, and then I read the article and...nope, she's 100% right. Brooks' take is embarrassingly lazy. I'll sum up before linking to it, but I can't recommend Patchett's response highly enough 👇

Billypar 1. He talks about how literary fiction has lost ground to genre fiction in recent years (yes, accurate). 2. He says the too-easy explanation is that attention spans have dwindled (actually, I could be persuaded this is partly true). 3. Here's the bombshell...the real reason is that authors nowadays are too worried about offending sensibilities to make good art (really David Brooks, what an original take, I never heard of this idea before) 👇 (edited) 2mo
Billypar Then he makes it apparent that he hasn't read much of any modern literary fiction, which is where Ann Patchett takes him to task. It's funny how Brooks must be aware of the nostalgia trap, but he still falls into it. Even if we take his point that some authors self-censor too much out of fear of being canceled, every era has its own version of mediocrity, so if you want to compare that to old classics, of course you're going to see a decline 👇 2mo
Billypar And Patchett rightly points out that not every 'classic' ages well either. Okay, rant over 😋 I'm still linking to it if you want to form your own opinion: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/opinion/literature-books-novelists.html 2mo
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TheBookHippie Good grief. 🤦🏻‍♀️ is there trash being put out -well yes -is hoover trash - well sorry, but in my opinion yes. But there IS amazing literature being written. Amazing poets, art books and remember some classics were hated, and didn‘t sell till long after the author was dead. So no literature isn‘t dead, and yes there are still readers of it 🙃😅🥴 (edited) 2mo
TheBookHippie Many authors being banned are writing even more 🙂 2mo
TheBookHippie I agree with all your points 😅 2mo
Tamra Absolutely there is fantastic literature being written, just as there is entertainment. It is no different than any other era in that respect. You have to make the effort to find and actually read it. 2mo
Leftcoastzen Awesome! 2mo
squirrelbrain What a fantastic post! 2mo
AmyG I just saw this. Never been a fan of Brooks. He is an “arrogant know-it-all”. Team Ann!!! 2mo
Blueberry Well spoken Ann. 2mo
Amiable I can‘t read the NYT column because I‘m not a subscriber. But Patchett‘s response is perfection. I‘m a reader of literary fiction —I don‘t read genre fiction (if that‘s what he‘s calling romance or fantasy or the “romantsy” stuff). Yes, there‘s a lot of the genre books out there. But I never have a problem finding great literary fiction to read. Methinks Brooks just isn‘t looking in the right place— like, at a bookstore. 🙄 2mo
S3V3N Kudos to her! 2mo
SamAnne I thought his column was shallow and ridiculous. So much great literary fiction out there. And frankly, so much “genre fiction” out there that is literary! N.K. Jemison!! Ring Shout by P. Djeli Clark! STJ‘s The Only Good Indians!!!! 2mo
Deblovestoread I didn‘t read the article but always listen to Ann on IG and thought her New to You was on point. She‘s fantastic! 2mo
Billypar @TheBookHippie The irony of all ironies is that he seems bugged that the cultural conversation has shifted away from literary fiction, yet, you're David Brooks, one of the most prominent cultural critics there is, so if you really care about getting literary fiction back in the mainstream conversation, maybe, I don't know, read a few actual modern books/authors and start writing about them? Lol. 2mo
Billypar @Tamra Yeah, it's funny how he mentions at one point that people still love The Great Gatsby and Jane Austen novels, taking that as evidence that people have sophisticated taste, so if they're not reading modern stuff, it must be the fault of the authors. Instead of the fact that maybe the reason people love those classics is because they're literally handed them in high school and college. After that, you're on your own to find the good books! 2mo
Billypar @AmyG Totally. I think one very neglected intellectual trait is knowing when you don't know enough about a topic to keep your mouth shut 🤐 2mo
Billypar @Amiable It's just a weird argument to say that the genre vs literary shift is due to a recent failure to deliver on the literary side when so many book sales are driven by sci-fi, romance, and mysteries/ thrillers that were optioned. People aren't going to the movies to see dramas as much anymore, and it's not because we lost the ability to make The Godfather. The business model totally changed. 2mo
Billypar @SamAnne Yeah, this sort of argument always gets framed as: 'are things worse now or not?', but rarely touches on what has improved. Even if we have less shared books that everyone reads and discusses, we have more choices than any other time period. That goes for literary fiction, all genres, and genre-blending of every combination. That variety of ideas and modes of expression is something no one should take for granted these days. 2mo
Billypar @Leftcoastzen @squirrelbrain @Blueberry @S3V3N @Deblovestoread @dabbe Yeah, she's amazing: I'm almost more interested when authors talk about their reading habits rather than their writing, and she was definitely responding to the article as a devoted reader. 2mo
TheBookHippie @Billypar read a current novel maybe 🤣🤣🤣😅🤦🏻‍♀️😬 is key. Oy. 2mo
Tamra @dabbe thank you! 😘 2mo
Tamra I would be very curious to see any response from David Brooks. He enjoys stirring the pot. (edited) 2mo
dabbe @Billypar 🩵🎯🩵 2mo
dabbe @Tamra YW! 😘 2mo
Suet624 I saw her video when it came out and you‘ve hit the nail on the head. She was angry and it was only her southern charm that kept her from swearing. 😊 2mo
Billypar @Suet624 Ha- totally! I understand why: it's upsetting because people will read an article like that because of the headline/author and believe it if they don't already read literary fiction. 2mo
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Leftcoastzen
Humboldt's Gift | Saul Bellow
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Why I still read Bellow.

Ruthiella I‘ve only read this and Augie March, but I find Bellow exhausting to read. Every idea he ever had is stuffed in with the rest. I will still read this one, however 3y
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Leftcoastzen
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#bookplates Haven‘t posted one for awhile.Always fun finding these in a used book purchase ! Added value.😄

merelybookish They are special! 3y
LeahBergen Very cool! 3y
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squirrelbrain
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Charlie Citrine has made a bit of a mess of his life - can a gift from his deceased former friend, and poet, Von Humboldt Fleisher turn his life around?

This is a Pulitzer Prize winning novel and is very dense and intense - it took a long time to read but the storytelling is brilliant.

My only gripe would be that it is SO intense and involving that it is a little bit exhausting - perhaps there could have been a little more light and shade.

squirrelbrain Thanks so much for the gift Minette @gradcat! I really did like it, although I need a lie-down now! 🤣 6y
Leftcoastzen I love Bellow! 6y
gradcat @squirrelbrain I know his books can be somewhat exhausting for the brain, but the for the soul? Perfect! I‘m glad you liked it, and on the contrary, I think you read it rather quickly...it‘s not a book that can be read at a quick pace. Kudos! ♥️ 6y
gradcat @Leftcoastzen I think we like a lot of the same authors! I hope you are doing well, and that you have a great 2020! Happy New Year to you! 🥳🥂♥️ 6y
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squirrelbrain
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#weeklyforecast

I picked out the tagged book from my ‘birthday picking jar‘, from the lovely @gradcat ... I made a start on it today Minette and enjoying it so far!

Definitely going to read ‘The Boy...‘ (from the equally lovely @KarenUK ) during this festive week.

Other than that there‘s a Christmas Eve surprise of course and then we‘ll see what Santa brings 🎅❤️

TrishB Lot of pressure on Santa this week! Best be enough books in those bags 🎅 6y
Cathythoughts Reading is being seriously influenced by Santa .... 👍🏻❤️ 6y
Cinfhen Poor, Santa!! Shlepping books is hard on the back @Cathythoughts @squirrelbrain @TrishB 6y
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gradcat @squirrelbrain You have to let me know what you think, even if you don‘t like it. I‘m not sure how well Bellow will hold up with a younger (read: not a contemporary) reader. I‘m very interested in your take. I do hope you like it, though. ♥️♥️♥️ 6y
squirrelbrain I‘m enjoying it so far @gradcat - I‘ll let you know what I think when I‘ve finished it....😁 6y
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squirrelbrain
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Thank you so much for the lovely gift @gradcat - so nice to come home from work to bookish surprises! And what a lovely bag it came in too. I‘m very much looking forward to reading this and I‘m so lucky to have met you as a friend on here! 😘

gradcat Ah, you got it—good! You‘re so welcome, and I‘m really hoping you enjoy Bellow as much as I do! Btw, if you already have the book, feel free to exchange it. I thought I remembered that you hadn‘t read any of his work yet. ♥️♥️♥️ 6y
gradcat And by the way, I‘M the lucky one! 🥰 6y
squirrelbrain No, definitely don‘t have it and you‘re right, I‘ve never read Bellow. I‘m hoping he‘s going to make me feel all clever and erudite when I‘ve read him! 🤣 6y
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Emilymdxn
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Mehso-so

I really liked this to begin with, and I loved the writing style, but I got a bit lost in what was going on and felt like good writing had to be backed up by more happening, or me being prompted to think about more things. I felt like we circled around the same themes a lot and I‘d have liked some more development. #1001books

Oana7 I read the book too... I didn't like it so much... I felt as which something was missing 😊 6y
Ruthiella Just so so for me too. I‘ve only read two books by Bellow but they were both overly full of detail and erudition IMO, it became wearying to read. I did like some of the characterization though...particularly Rinaldo. He kept off the page so to speak. (edited) 6y
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arubabookwoman
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I started keeping a list of books I read in 1977. These pages show the books I read thru 2008. From 1-1-09 I have tracked my reading on LT. The first books listed in 1977 were Humbolt‘s Gift, What I‘m Going To Do I Think, Tristram Shandy, The Confessions of Nat Turner, Japanese Stories, Pickwick Papers, Auto-de-Fe, Riders in the Chariot, The Painted Bird, African Stories, & Middlemarch. I think I read more seriously then.

Flaneurette I wish I had done this- I only started to keep track when I joined goodreads in 2009 7y
LeahBergen That‘s so awesome!! I have a written record of my reading since 1993. 👍🏻 7y
arubabookwoman Looking at the picture I noticed on the top page near the end of the second column after Nabokov and before Wharton I‘ve noted “Matthew is born.” That‘s my oldest son, born 7-18-78. On the 2nd p. middle of the 2nd column is “5-13-83 Brandon born”. He‘s my 3rd child, 2nd son. My daughter born in 1980 is on the back, right after Rhyss‘s Good Morning Midnight. (edited) 7y
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Emilymdxn It‘s incredible that you have these!! I‘m lucky I was young enough to catalogue online - I‘ve been using LT since I was 13, around 9 years ago, but don‘t have exact dates for a huge number of books. 7y
Centique That is AMAZING. What a treasure trove! 7y
batsy Wow, amazing! 7y
ValerieAndBooks Very cool!! 7y
Crazeedi I am so jealous! I have wished that I had kept a list of books I've read. Lucky you 7y
Liz_M What fun to find again! ☺ 7y
thebluestocking This is amazing!! 😍 7y
charl08 Wow. 7y
Graywacke That‘s just beautiful (a bit late catching this). My list from senior year of high school through 200? is packed away somewhere. Each silly book (nothing like your first entries, wow) written in with whatever pen or marker was at hand. Now I use Word and Excel (LT could form a patchwork list.) 7y
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gradcat
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It‘s really not about my receiving the gifts...it‘s more to do with the way the gifts “stand in” for the giver.
As the gift prompts my memory, it‘s as if the presence of the giver is there, right in front of my mind....
#Gratitude30 #Gift
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This may be blasphemy but I dislike the majority of Bellow‘s books with a passion that comes close to hatred. I find them tedious to read and feels like I‘m trying to run through a pit of treacle.

I‘m trying to read this for our 1001 group but the struggle is real. It‘s very helpful for sleeping. I shudder to think of how many more I need to read to make my way through the 1001 list.

ValerieAndBooks That page doesn‘t look very promising to me 😣. I have Herzog in my TBR (tagged) and just now looked at the app and there are three on that list by him. Three! 8y
JenP @ValerieAndBooks lots of people do love him but I really struggle 8y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Maybe your goal has to be to read the 1001 minus Bellows, there‘s enough from the other editions to pick some substitution if you despise his writing. 8y
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JenP @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m trying to read all the books across all editions. I‘ve already read one of them but it does seem rather silly to force my way through books I hate. 8y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JenP Well save the his others until last. Life is short, there‘s a lot of good ones on the list to read first, might as well read them and maybe until you‘ve read the other 1,300ish you‘ll be in a different place in your life and his work will mean something different to you then. 8y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JenP Otherwise get them on audiobook and listen to them double-time! 😂 8y
DreesReads I have some books I am saving til I am done with the other 1300. This includes the untranslated ones, 2 by Somerset Maugham (I hated the third), Lord of the Rings (I despised The Hobbit), and perhaps now Bellow (since I couldn‘t even make myself start this one! 8y
JenP @AudreyMorris i debated leaving some until the end but then am afraid I‘ll end up with a lot of unpleasant reads 😬 8y
BarbaraBB I am sure there are books of the list I won‘t read (Finnegan‘s Wake for example), so I am trying to read 1001 of the 1300. This way I keep enjoying the list instead of punishing myself 😉 8y
DreesReads @JenP I figure if I make it that far, it would be a nice problem to have! 8y
Ladygodiva7 I hated this book too, but I finished it. Bah. 8y
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LivingReflections
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Saul Bellow is recomended by both Obama and Ann Patchett. How can one go wrong?

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Leftcoastzen
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#yellowcovers #riotgrams
found some yellow covers ! Sometimes you don't know what is lurking in the bookcase😃

batsy C.L.R James! 🙌 What a great cover 8y
Leftcoastzen @batsy Figures you know C.L.R. James,you read a lot of those smart people books😌 8y
batsy @Leftcoastzen Bahaha, it's an attempt to get close to their intelligence! I've only read some of his essays, I hope to get around to his books 8y
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Remembering Saul Bellow, who died on this day, April 5, in 2005.

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