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Self-Editing for Fiction Writers
Self-Editing for Fiction Writers | Renni Browne, Dave King
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Covers characterization, exposition, point of view, dialogue, proportion, and voice
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CrowCAH
Self-Editing for Fiction Writers | Renni Browne, Dave King
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I‘m back at the edits for the pirate 🏴‍☠️ novel!

I took all last month off, due to a crazy schedule, and am now getting back on track.

JazzFeathers Yayyy!!!! Holidays are really the worst for writing. 2w
CrowCAH @JazzFeathers agreed! And I thought November with Thanksgiving was bad for NaNo, but December is worse! 2w
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Pickpick

I have been using this book to edit my own manuscript. I was enlightened on how dialogue works. It‘s definitely a great read and is very educational in a small package.

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TK-421
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It's April, which means #CampNanowrimo! Usually, I'm on the ball, scribbling and typing furiously as soon as the month starts, but this time I haven't even touched my WIP or looked for a #revision cabin to join! Not good 😟 Ugh! I hope I can get back on track this weekend. Any other #NanosofLitsy / #LittenWrimos in the same boat?

llwheeler Camp NaNo isn't the same word goal as NaNo? I'd just assumed it was... 15k in a month is much more doable for me. Maybe I'll look into it this year... 2y
wanderinglynn Me! I had high hopes to start revising the store I wrote in November. Here it is April 4 & I haven‘t even picked it up. And like you, haven‘t looked at cabins or anything since I signed up for CampNaNo. 😕 2y
TK-421 @llwheeler For Camp, you get to set your own goal! There's also the option to be in a "cabin", which is a group of writers (max 20, I think), with a message board/chat room where Campers can talk, ask for advice, cheer each other on, etc. Camp Nano months are April & July. 2y
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TK-421 @wanderinglynn Glad I'm not the only one! What's your Nano name? I'll add you as a buddy! 2y
llwheeler @TK-421 Oooh. Well that sounds way better for me than NaNo! Thanks for explaining 😊 2y
Bianca Me! Haven't written a word yet. 2y
wanderinglynn @TK-421 I‘m wanderinglynn on NaNo too. 😀 2y
TK-421 @wanderinglynn Thanks! I'll add you! 2y
TK-421 @Bianca Glad I'm not the only one, but sorry you're struggling too. There's still plenty of time left, thankfully! 2y
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xicanti
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I can't let the Diet Coke thing go. Co-op's got single cans available, so I bought a couple and tried Twisted Mango while I made revision notes in my traveller's notebook. It was pretty good.

GarthRanzz My favourite is the Ginger Lime! 2y
MonikaS Love this one as well as the ginger lime. 😍 2y
tournevis @GarthRanzz @MonikaS Me too. I'm kinda addicted to that one. 2y
xicanti @GarthRanzz @MonikaS @tournevis I've only tried the two so far, but I did prefer Ginger Lime. Cherry's up next. 2y
QuietlyLaura I really like the Fiesty Cherry but it seems to go flat fast. 2y
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RaimeyGallant
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So much of this fiction writing tool was fantastic. My favorite is the chapter on proportion. This said, I didn't agree with all the advice, or rather the strength with which they put that advice forward, this-way-or-the-highway statements, when in reality, there are multiple schools of thought. Beware the places they say, Do it this way not that way, but offer no reasoning. Calling something 'hack,' which they did a lot, is not logic enough.

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RaimeyGallant
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"One of the great gifts of literature [as opposed to TV/film, with the exception of voiceovers] is that it allows for the expression of unexpressed thoughts: interior monologue."

Melissa_J You must be glad you‘re not in Winnipeg right now! I heard it‘s warmer on Mars and in Antarctica then it is in Winterpeg 😉 2y
RaimeyGallant @Melissa_J My aunt nearly jumped through my phone yesterday when I told her how hot it is. 2y
Cathythoughts Excellent quote 2y
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RaimeyGallant
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"The authors of this book advise to only ever place the character's name before 'said' in a dialogue attribution," Raimey said.

"But I like to switch it up," said Raimey.

Opinions? Which is better, or do you like both?

(P.S. My veggie patties turned out awesome.)

Mollyanna I say switch it up. It can become monotonous otherwise. 2y
PerksOfBeingABookworm I agree with @Mollyanna it becomes too monotonous if you only use one way. But I guess it's also whatever feels comfortable to you and what you think flows the best. 2y
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CocoReads Switch it up! 2y
xicanti I'm a big believer in "Name said." The other order hits my eyes the wrong way, which takes me out of the story for a heartbeat. 2y
Velvetfur Hmm, tough one, but I think I agree with the others that you should use both, although I do like 'said so-and-so' because in my mind it tells me that someone said something then it tells me who said it. 2y
Velvetfur P.S. Those veggie patties look nommy 😀 2y
MariettaSG My thinking would be that when the character is being active, assertive, powerful use “Name said”, when they are being passive, pensive, etc. use “said Name”. 2y
03360465920 Nice 2y
RaimeyGallant @xicanti There goes my theory that maybe it's a regional preference. ;) So interesting, because it sounds more natural to me the other way. 2y
RaimeyGallant @MariettaSG This is a really interesting strategy. I'm going to think about this while I'm writing. 2y
RaimeyGallant @Velvetfur Great way of thinking about the logic. 2y
RaimeyGallant @PerksOfBeingABookworm Until now, that's what I had been doing. Now I'm conscious that some people think it's a mistake. 2y
RaimeyGallant @rubyslippersreads "'Haha,' said Raimey," Raimey said. 2y
RaimeyGallant @Mollyanna That's what I want to do, for sure. 2y
xicanti @RaimeyGallant I think I associate "said Name" with vintage British children's fiction, so it feels off in any other context. Plus, I've been much more aware of the issue since I read this very book a decade or so back. 2y
RaimeyGallant @xicanti Makes sense. :) 2y
RaimeyGallant @xicanti To my ear, 'said NAME' sounds less formal than the other way around, which is generally what I'm going for, but I do notice some authors do it one way, some the other. 2y
RaimeyGallant @xicanti New theory: "I wonder if it's because I was educated in French," dit Raimey. 2y
xicanti That's an excellent theory! 2y
Velvetfur @RaimeyGallant I just thought of something, "I wonder if it makes a difference when you're writing about the way in which someone said something", said Vikki pensively. "Oh yes, maybe it does!", Raimey said with a smile on her face. See?! 2y
RaimeyGallant I agree. It makes more sense in certain ways. @Velvetfur 2y
dutchbot When I facilitated a writing workshop for teens, we spent one discussion session on "said." "Asked" was included. We had workshopped a story where one member was using a variety of synonyms for "said," but was ultimately convinced to reserve creativity for the story and let "said" be, where it wouldn't surprise readers. As for ordering, either sounds fine. 2y
RadicalReader @RaimeyGallant vegetarian options can be so delicious love when cooking you can experiment with seasonings and quantity 2y
RaimeyGallant @RadicalReader I made potstickers this week. Vegan and so delicious, but so much work. 2y
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RaimeyGallant
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"Showing your story [as opposed to telling it via narrative summary] to your readers through scenes will not only give your writing immediacy. It will give your writing transparency."

Yes, that's my mosquito net in the backdrop.

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LazyLibrary
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Back on that "Gonna finish this trilogy and quit my crappy job" grind! Happy reading today! #ifyouwanttoreaditwriteit #wannabeauthor wish me luck ?

Foxyfictionista Good luck! I have the same dream and am currently working on the second draft of my novel. (Although I like my job. It's pretty good for a 9 to 5 gig.) 3y
LazyLibrary @Foxyfictionista good luck to you!!! It's not easy! I'm on my 5th and almost final draft of the first book! Professional edits are in and I'm doing one more beta read! Then I'm looking for a therapist so I can deal with the dozens of rejection emails 😂😳 3y
Foxyfictionista Wowser! Well done! I hope you sky rocket to fame and fortune! It's hard to find the motivation to edit sometimes. There is so much to fix...😬 3y
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LazyLibrary
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Yikes...so this is what it feels like when your brain is about to combust ?much love to editors! You're magical beings with such a talent. I can't decide if I'm laying, laid, lain, past or passed!!! ? at least I know my "theirs" ??#ifyouwanttoreaditwriteit #wannabeauthor #write

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RebeccaLHoward
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Ready for a session with my manuscript. Wait, what? Am I an idiot, an addict, or prepared for extreme productivity?

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RiaWritten
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Editing is hard, y'all. Is it bad that I literally just wrote "add feels" in some spots?

AshHisson Nope, I know at least one editor who's done that. 3y
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HDThomson
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A NY Times Bestselling author suggested this book to me. It's come in handy when I first started writing. For indie pubbed, if you can't afford an editor, which I do HIGHLY encourage, then learning to self edit is a must. Also having a bag of M&Ms and a cold soda while editing is always a plus. 😄

MMFinck Agreed! Excellent. Of all I've read and studied, still one of the top. Top-top for sentence level craft. Sol Stein is my other frontrunner. 4y
MysticCat Highly recommend this book even before sending your MS to an editor. Very readable. Interesting examples used to illustrate their points. 4y
HDThomson I'll probably be pulling Sol Stein out as one of my favs. 😀. Yes the examples were great to refer back to again and again! 4y
Bookgeeker Great recommendation. I'm putting it on my list of books to get! 4y
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SeanEasley
Self-Editing for Fiction Writers | Renni Browne, Dave King
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This is a must for authors. Soak in it between revisions.

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