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The Peoples of Middle-earth
The Peoples of Middle-earth | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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A collection of essays shows how the author began the story of Middle-earth's Second and Third ages
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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I thought my #FellowshipOfTolkien group might find this interesting…. https://www.tor.com/2021/06/10/tolkiens-orcs-boldog-and-the-host-of-tumult/?prev...

@Daisey @JazzFeathers @wordslinger42 @BookwormAHN

Oh, and PS… are we still thinking of tackling Kullervo later this month?

BookwormAHN Nice article and I thought we were going to start on our anniversary on July 18th. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BookwormAHN Oh! You‘re right! I thought it was June 18th for some reason, but now that I see this, you‘re right it‘s July. 2y
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BookwormAHN 😺 2y
Daisey Really interesting article! Also while we‘re checking in, is it my turn to work out a schedule? If so, I have my copy and will add that to my to list. 2y
JazzFeathers I know Jeff very well. He's such a great Tolkien fan 😃 2y
JazzFeathers @Daisey l don't remember who did the last schedule. This says it's really too long since we read together 😆 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I‘m pretty sure you did the last schedule for the last Histories of Middle Earth, but I know you and @Daisey read one since (places that inspired Tolkien I believe), but I‘m not sure who did a schedule for that. 2y
Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I‘ll work on one! Starting July 18, correct? 2y
JazzFeathers @Daisey Yes, July 18th 😊 2y
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Loved this beginning of incomplete story.
I would have lived to see a story from the perspective of the Wild People of Middle-earth. After The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien seems to be fascinated with different perspective.
Pity he never completed this story.

Daisey Agreed! I found this an interesting concept as well. 2y
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It's a very strange beginning. I have conflicting tellings about it.
On the one end, l'm intrigued by the dark atmosphere, with the possible involvement of secret societies and cults. On the other, l see why Tolkien ended up abandoning it: there would be no magic left in this world and for him this meant there would be very little hope.

I was intrigued, but not as much as with other uncompleted stories by Tolkien.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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I‘m not going to lie, I struggled with the beginning of this one, the language and family tree developments have never been my favorites, or the calendars and dating discrepancies, BUT by the second half of Part I, when more stories started mingling in with that info then it really picked up for me. So if you are also lagging way behind, it does pick up! #FellowshipOfTolkien

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I have finally finished this one #FellowshipOfTolkien, a few months later than our schedule, but I did it. The entire histories of Middle Earth are complete! Whew! 2y
TheSpineView Great job! 👍📖 2y
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Daisey Finishing this one and the series as a whole definitely feels like an accomplishment! I also agree with your review. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey Thank you. Some of the stories buried in there are great, I just felt like they got a bit buried. Although I found myself intrigued by the language by the end, the fact that both men & dwarves repeated famous names again and again out of history, but elves who live forever...no repeats...which I found especially intriguing since they were separated into different bands for long ages with no communications and that their names were all ⤵️ 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ based on the language. Wise One, Fiery Haired, sings like Nightingale....it seems odd that such basic name meaning would pop up as multiple groups had children and were separated long enough to develop different languages. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey I also loved the tidbit that Feanor, wanted a bit of Galadriel‘s hair too, because it seemed it shown like the light of the 2 trees, but she refused ....so Gimli got a token of her favor that was denied Feanor. 2y
JazzFeathers Only two chapters left for me. I should finish soon. I agree with your review. Some parts were hard, but l've lived all the stories. 2y
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I can usually count on Dickens gift for unusual names, but after Bingo & company I knew Tolkien had a gift too, but today I found out Celeborn‘s real name is Teleporno

Oh Tolkien! ? Yes Teleporno is his true Quenya name!

Funnier yet, I had to google this on the Tolkien gateway site. It means: “The name is composed of telepi and orno (Primitive Elvish ornâ "uprising, tall").” So silver tall or silver uprising...

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BookwormAHN I'm really glad he rethought those 😸 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BookwormAHN I may just be getting punchy reading all these names, that this one jumped out to me....but this IS his real name the telep-orno just became celeb-orn was just a shift in spelling and pronunciation when they left the blessed realm so the Elves of middle earth (the Sindarian elves who didn‘t speak Quenya) could pronounce it. Between Galadriel and him at home, they both spoke Quenya, so Teleporno is what she called him at home. (edited) 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BookwormAHN Galadriel was originally Alatariel or Naltariel. The Alat- or Nalt- translating to Galat- in Sindarian 2y
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BookwormAHN As long as Bingo Baggins never surfaces I wish Teleporno well. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BookwormAHN 😂🤣 makes me wonder where the poor elven souls are that came back to Middle Earth and their names going forward suffered odd translation incidents. 2y
JazzFeathers Oh nooooo!!! 😂😂😂 2y
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I've always been fascinated with the story of the Edain and l greatly enjoyed reading about them once more.
I liked the way Tolkien tried to bound all humans together, the same way Elves are.
As always, Tolkien underlines how choices creates destiny, and l think that in this retelling of the coming of Ment into the West, he made choices even more important.

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I'm really enjoying this section dedicated to the Dwarves and the Men.
I remember reading in previous books that the Dwarves were the very first to meet the Men in Middle-earth, but l don't remember reading before that the original language of Men probably derived from that of the Dwarves.

I'm quite intrigued by this relation.

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I always enjoy Tolkien's writing about the Dwarves.
Here, there's some more little info about their culture and family relationship.

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I enjoyed reading this first version of the story of Aragorn and Arwen. There are little tid-bit of information that didn't make it to the final version.

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Time to pick it back up 😃

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Daisey
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I rearranged my Tolkien shelves again as I finished this final book in the History of Middle-Earth. I would only recommend these books to a serious Tolkien fan, but if that‘s the case, they are worth the effort. This one focuses on the Appendices of LotR and some later writings. The final stories were really just beginnings, but again with a hint of such potential for more stories in this well-developed world.

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JazzFeathers Oh my goodness. I think l'm the last one who still needs to finish this 😭 #FellowshipOfTolkien 2y
Daisey @JazzFeathers It‘s perfectly ok! Take the time you need. I will say in my opinion, the last story is worth getting to, although it is just a hint of possibility. 2y
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Daisey
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Happy Tolkien Reading Day! I‘ve had a busy school day and I still need to finish my sub plans for tomorrow, but I‘m going to make at least a little time to read more of this tonight. I‘m ready to start Part Three and am still hoping I can finish the book by the end of the month.

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JazzFeathers I had such a busy Tolkien Reading Day yesterday... That l forgot to post here 😭 l suppose l should do it now 😜 2y
Daisey @JazzFeathers I didn‘t make time for anything else Tolkien related, but at least I did get a few pages in. 2y
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I fit in a few more pages tonight. I found the additional discussion of Glorfindel and Cirdan in this section fascinating. It makes me wish we had seen more of a Cirdan in the Lord of the Rings. He is another character that exists through so many layers of the history and we only get to see tiny pieces.

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JazzFeathers I'm so behind with the book. But l hope to pick it back up next week. You made me so curious!! 2y
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Finally finished to take down notes for the upcoming AtoZ blogging challenge, so now l can go back to my Tolkien reads 😊

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Daisey
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This is pretty much my favorite way to start a Saturday and it‘s been a while. I‘m not sure I‘ll make a lot of progress on this book this weekend, but I‘m looking forward to what I do get to read. I‘m already a few pages into this section and there‘s so much detail about names.

#BreakfastWithTolkien #FellowshipOfTolkien

wordslinger42 I feel awful that I haven't been posting about the book! I'm just about to page 300 and haven't been able to keep to the schedule, but I am enjoying it! 2y
Daisey @wordslinger42 I don‘t feel like I‘m posting much either, but I‘m also enjoying it. 2y
JazzFeathers @wordslinger42 @Daisey Gals, l am solo behind! Had to stop Reading because of a couple of projects that needed attention, but l hope to get back to it soon. 2y
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Today feels like springtime, so I‘m enjoying some sunshine and hammock reading. I‘ve hardly had any reading time in the past week, but I hope to catch up on a few more pages of this book today.

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JazzFeathers I'm so behind too 😭 l have my hands full with Two projects (One Is a Tolkien project 😜) and l'm finding It so hard to find time to read... 2y
Daisey @JazzFeathers Is this the video project? Has the recording gotten easier? March is probably my busiest school month since I also coach quiz bowl, and we have matches several weeks in a row. It does not leave a lot of reading time. 2y
JazzFeathers Yes, It Is the video project. Well, let's say that l went from recording a 3-minute long video in one week ti recording a 15-minute long video in two days. It's an improvement 😂 A quiz bowl??? That sounds like a lot of fun! 2y
Silberloewe @Daisey Thats such an adorable Bookmark! 2y
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BookwormAHN
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This last book on the History of Middle Earth. The two best parts for me were the unfinished stories of The New Shadow and the tale of Tal-elmar. The whole book as usual was really well done and I can't imagine how difficult putting all this together was.
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JazzFeathers You've finished!!!! I'm still halfway through and can't wait to get to the unfinished tales. 2y
BookwormAHN @JazzFeathers The fact that he never finished The New Shadow is tragic. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Congratulations! I‘ve fallen way WAY behind.... but I‘ll get there eventually. 2y
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"The historian of Gondor reasserted himself, and he told the story as he wished to tell it."

Although he was constantly conscious of the limitations of publication, I'm so grateful to get to read some of these additional details he couldn't resist writing for himself.

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mandarchy I was just talking to my son about Tolkien's Rs. My son is named Reuel after his grandfather and we couldn't remember if the other R was Robert or Ronald. I forgot to look it up until I saw your post - thanks! 2y
JazzFeathers You've now ahead of me. I have to hold for a week because l have deadlines to meet. But soon! 😆 2y
Daisey @JazzFeathers You‘ll probably pass me up again soon. I feel like I only get to read this on weekends lately. 2y
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I've always been fascinated by Tolkien background stories for The Lord of the Ring. They make a lot of sense.
And l don't know why, l've always had a soft spot for the Northern line of the Heirs of Elendil and for Arvedui in particular.
But the story of the Sourhern line Is seriously awesome. All those character and all those events.
I love It!

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Daisey
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This is one of those sections where the continuous lists of names (and notes on reordering) can start to make your eyes glaze over. However, as with so much of Tolkien‘s writing, I feel like I understand it and catch a little more with every reading. I‘ve read the lines of the kings and stewards before, but I felt I noticed more of the interesting details of the history this time.

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JazzFeathers The commentari was a bit dry, but l loved the actual chronology. But then, l've always loved these stories. 2y
Daisey I agree about the chronology, well I guess I should say this time. I haven‘t always appreciated the details about the kings this much. 2y
tpixie @Daisey I have not read all these as you all have, but I‘ve read The Hobbit and LOTR 3 times, and I do understand this sentiment. 2y
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I so wish Tolkien ha written more about Numenor. It Is such a fascinating parte of his legendarium.

Daisey I finished this section last night and I have to agree, although there are many aspects I would be happy to read more about. 2y
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Daisey
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A snow day today means the chance for a quiet mid-week morning so I read a bit more of this with breakfast. The most interesting part of the Akallabeth chapter was the possibility of changes in the story of Zimrahil and her marriage to Pharazon.

#FellowshipOfTolkien #BreakfastWithTolkien #BookAndBreakfast

JazzFeathers I loved that part too. Zimhrail had so much potenziale ti be and awesome character. 2y
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l never tire to read about Numenor. l'm fascinated with the evolution of the story, which, from The Lost Road to the Notion Club Paper, it's very very peculiar.

In this examination, l was particularly interested in reading about Queen Ar Zimphrael. In the Silmarillion, we may sense she had a special place in the story, and still she remains in the shadow. I wish Tolkien had manager to write more about her.

CaffeineAndCandy 💜💜💜 2y
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I'm so super ready to read some more about Numenor 😍

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Daisey
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It‘s time for some spiked hot cocoa and catching up on readalongs this evening.

I‘ve just finished chapter 6 of Mansfield Park. #PemberLittens #ChapterADay

I‘m currently in the middle of the Calendars chapter in Peoples of Middle-Earth. #FellowshipOfTolkien

MargaretPinardAuthor Swoon over that hot cocoa!! 2y
JazzFeathers I've finished the Calendar section last night. Nota really easy going. But now, Numenor 😍 2y
alisiakae Yum! 2y
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Daisey @JazzFeathers Yes, I only made it part way last night but hope to finish today so I can get to the Akallabeth chapter! 2y
tpixie Your mug has survived! My green started peeling from the get go! I‘m glad I gave myself the lemon ! 2y
Daisey @tpixie I make a point to hand wash it and alternate with many others. 💚 2y
tpixie @Daisey smart!! 2y
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Daisey
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Not only did Tolkien invent multiple languages, but he wrote out an explanation of the reasoning behind the fictional translation of stories written by hobbits into English. This includes a few pages of explanations of the “original” and “translated” hobbit names. While reading this I couldn‘t help but think of the early versions about Bingo who later became Frodo, as both are mentioned in this explanation.

#FellowshipOfTolkien #CatsOfLitsy

JazzFeathers That was such alcool section 2y
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I love it when Tolkien treats his invented books as if the were real. It's like all his passions (linguistics, ancient languages and storytelling) came together.

I had never realised that LotR was conceived as a translation of the book Bilbo and Frodo wrote. I mean, l should have guessed, but l didn't. So l found all the considerations about translation particularly fascinating.

Daisey I just read more of this section tonight. I clearly remember this translation aspect of the stories, and this description of names and such was fascinating to me. 2y
JazzFeathers @Daisey It's true, Christopher mentions the actual published Appendix, but somehow l've totally forgot that 😶 2y
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I‘m not reading anything relevant to Brazil tonight, but I‘m having leftover chicken and fresh baked pão de queijo. Thanks to a friend sharing tapioca flour, this was a simple recipe to try. #FoodAndLit #ReadAndEat

I‘m reading my way through “The Appendix on Languages.” Sometimes I get completely lost in Tolkien‘s discussions of languages, but currently I‘m enjoying refreshing my memory on this perspective of the history. #FellowshipOfTolkien

Catsandbooks Looks tasty!! 2y
JazzFeathers I surprisi y enjoyed this section.ike you, Tolkien sometimes loses me when be gets too detailed about languages. But this section had a food balance between languages and story for me. 2y
Gracelovesreading Pao de queijo yesss 👍❤ 2y
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Loved reading about the changed to the Prologue.
I know that many first-time readers complain about it, but Tolkien was answering questions his readers had and since social media didn't exist, l suppose that was the next best thing he could do 😆

wordslinger42 I've read a lot of complaints, too, but when I first read it, I immediately fell in love with the depth of the world he'd created and couldn't wait to read more! 2y
Daisey I don‘t know that I truly appreciated it the first time, but I never minded reading it and it‘s gotten better with more readings. It was interesting to see how it developed. 2y
JazzFeathers @wordslinger42 l agree with @Daisey l normally read the Prologue, of a book has one, and so l read this Prologue too che l first read LotR. It didn't do much for me, one way or the other, but every time l reread It, l appreciate It a little bit more. 2y
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Starting to work on catching up 😊

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I‘m so ready to dive into this book! I just read the Foreword and The Prologue. It‘s kind of amazing to me that we‘re starting the 12th and final book of the History of Middle-Earth. I completely agree with this quote that compares the HoME to a form of biography of Tolkien.

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JazzFeathers So very true. I feel that l've learned a lot about Tolkien as a storyteller but also as a human being Reading these books. 2y
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And this is the second parte.

I'm a bit sad that this is the lady last volume in The History of Middle-earth. It's bene such a great adventure.
But l hope we'll continue to read Tolkien together eben afterward 😊

@Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @wordslinger42 @BookwormAHN

BookwormAHN Thanks for making up the schedule 😺 2y
wordslinger42 Thank you for doing the schedule!! And yes, I'm sad, too ❤ But I'm excited to read more Tolkien with you all in the future! 2y
JazzFeathers @wordslinger42 @BookwormAHN l so hope we'll continue reading Tolkien together 😊 2y
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Took me a while, but bere It Is. This Is the first parte of the schedule for People of Middle-earth - that apoarently Is such an obscure book that you have to tell Litsy ti go look It up 😆

The dates start from lady Monday, but l organizer the schedule with Grest ease, trying to kepp small chunks of no more than 10 pages. I think it'll be easier for everyone.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Thank you for doing this schedule! It looks great! 2y
Daisey Thanks so much for putting this together! I‘m so looking forward to getting into this one. 2y
JazzFeathers @Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa l can't wait either. It looks so interesting 😃 2y
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Gals, l just want to apologize for being so late with the schedule. I changed my phone and had to go hunting for the Litsy password. Then was kidnapped by a Tolkien project l need to finish today.
But l'll do my best to post It before tonight. Promised!

@Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @wordslinger42 @BookwormAHN

BethM Having to change phones is the worst. 2y
wordslinger42 No worries! I'm glad you were able to find your password 😊 A Tolkien project sounds exciting!! 2y
BookwormAHN No hurry 😺 2y
Daisey No worries! I‘ve been trying to fit in other shorter reads before we start. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa No problem, I have plenty of other things to read...so no rush here. Glad you found your password, and sorry about your phone. I did that ages ago, and still haven‘t put on my music. 2y
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It's here!! Looking through the contents, this one looks like it's going to be really interesting!

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@JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey @BookwormAHN Just let me know when everyone has their copy and is ready to start the last chapter of our adventure 💙

JazzFeathers It does. That's why l bought it years ago. 2y
BookwormAHN I have mine and I agree it looks good. 2y
Daisey @wordslinger42 @JazzFeathers @BookwormAHN @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Mine is here today too! Going to glance through it as soon as I finish this comment. 2y
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