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The Lost Road and Other Writings
The Lost Road and Other Writings: Language and Legend Before 'The Lord of the Rings' | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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The History of Middle-earth 5 Edited by Christopher Tolkien INKLINGS OF GREATNESS . . . J.R.R. Tolkien and C. S. Lewis were friends and fellow members of the literary circle known as The Inklings. It is hardly surprising that, at one point, these talented gentlemen embarked on a challenge: Lewis was to write on "space-travel" and Tolkien on "time-travel." Lewis' novel, Out of the Silent Planet, became the first book of a science fiction trilogy. Tolkien's unfinished story, The Lost Road, chronicles the original destruction of Nmenor, a pivotal event of the Second Age of Middle-earth. In this fifth volume of The History of Middle-earth, Christopher Tolkien brings Middle-earth to its state at the writing of The Lord of the Rings. Entertaining and informative, THE LOST ROAD AND OTHER WRITINGS offers fresh insights into the evolution of one of the world's most enduring fantasies.
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The Lost Road: The History of Middle-Earth 5 | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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I can't believe it's been two weeks since last l posted. This must be the longest hiatus l had on here.

I've been rereading The Lost Road and again l enjoyed it a lot.
Such a shame Tolkien never finished it.

Besides, it was indeed here that Numenor was created, so in a way, some of it found its own way.
And honestly, the Second Age is just marvellous!

Jinjer I think I've been gone 2 years!!!! Hi old friend! 4y
JazzFeathers Hi @Jinjer What a pleasure to see you! 4y
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After my first full week of teaching in person since March, this introvert is very grateful for a quiet three day weekend. Today that includes sunshine, hammock time, and reading Tolkien. I find the possibilities of mixing his own mythology with history and legends in the drafts and notes for The Lost Road fascinating.

#Reread

BookishMarginalia We just finished week 3. It‘s exhausting! 4y
JazzFeathers That would have been such a fantastic story and truly epic. Such a pity he abandoned it. But then, had Tolkien written The Lost Road, we probably wouldn't have The Lord of the Rings, so l can't complain 😆 4y
Daisey @BookishMarginalia So true, and as of now I‘m just face to face. I doubt that will last. 4y
Daisey @JazzFeathers Agreed, but it is fascinating to consider the story this might have become. 4y
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Time for some more Tolkien rereading . . .

JazzFeathers Yayyyy!!!! I'm so excited for this Numenor reread. This story has always been among my favourite in the Silmarillion. 4y
Daisey @JazzFeathers I got into the Lost Road chapters today and loved rereading them! 4y
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Hi #FellowshipOfTolkien
Since we are in between books, l'd like to ask you something.

This is the thing: the Eä Tolkien Society of Spokane, Washington (USA) found my article about The Notion Club Papers on Medium, and since their September online conference will focus on Númenor, they asked me to be a guests on that discussion (I am shocked, but also so excited!).

JazzFeathers So, in preparation for that, l'm going to reread The Lost Road and The Notion Club Papers.
Would you reread them with me?
4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Congratulations! That‘s wonderful! I‘m not sure if I‘m ready for a re-read yet, let me think about that part....but wow, that‘s such a great and wonderful thing, I‘m just so excited for you! 4y
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Daisey I would be interested since we‘re in a space between books again. I‘m not sure with school starting that I‘ll be great at reading closely or staying on track, but I‘d be willing to try. I enjoyed The Lost Road and I think the TSoKC group here is about to read The Notion Club Papers so maybe that would work well together. 4y
Daisey As for being asked to participate the online conference, that‘s fantastic! Congratulations! I am looking forward to participating in the online MiddleMoot conference (https://signumuniversity.org/event/middlemoot-2020/) and I‘m seriously considering signing up for Oxonmoot since it‘s online this year as well. 4y
JazzFeathers @Daisey l'm considering the Oxonmoot too. Hey, would be fantastic to go 'together'! 4y
JazzFeathers What is the TSoKC group? I'd love to read the Notion Club Papers with them too! 4y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Let's me know. I'd love to reread it with you guys. 4y
Daisey TSoKC stands for Tolkien Society of Kansas City. It‘s the “local” group for me although most of their in person events require at least an hour or longer drive for me. Ive been able to participate more than I expected because most of the events have been online. 4y
wordslinger42 That's so exciting!!! I'm really happy for you! 😊 I might have to look into the online conferences also! I'm still working on finishing the last book and have other things I'm reading, so I don't feel like I can join in on something else right now, but enjoy the re-read! 4y
BookwormAHN Congratulations, that's fantastic 👏🏻 I'm not sure that I'm up for the reread either but I am going to check on the conferences. 4y
JazzFeathers That's ok, everyone 😊 @Daisey when are they reading The Notion Club Papers? Are you reading along? I might join too 😊 4y
Daisey @JazzFeathers I just double checked and the TSoKC is reading the Notion Club Papers and planning to meet in person next Friday. I‘m guessing I will not get a reread in that quickly, nor do I want to drive into the city with school starting (around too many different groups of people already). Let me know when and how you plan to reread and I‘ll try to fit it in. 4y
JazzFeathers That's great @Daisey Maybe it would be more handy if we managed this via mail? oldshelter@yahoo.com 4y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Since you guys are re-reading, I‘m going to suggest we put off the next History of Middle Earth a bit....until sometime after the conference (so late Sept/Oct, I‘m guessing here?) that way you won‘t be trying to read both, plus it will give everyone time to get the next book who hasn‘t and give @wordslinger42 a nice cushion to catch up. How does that sound @JazzFeathers @Daisey @BookwormAHN ? 4y
BookwormAHN That sounds fine to me 😺 4y
JazzFeathers Fine to me too. Besides, my book hasn't arrived yet 😭 The conference will be the 19th of September. 4y
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I have enjoyed each of these History of Middle Earth books and there were some wonderfully detailed aspects in a few of these revisions. I also especially enjoyed The Lost Road, although it is really only the beginning of the story.

#YearofTolkien

JazzFeathers So, have you finished? I loved this book too, especially The Lost Road, which was totally new to me. I'm still waiting for my Fall of Gondolin 😡 6y
Daisey @JazzFeathers Yes, it took me a while this week to get through the etymologies with so many other things going on. The Lost Road was my favorite aspect, and I was really intrigued by the idea of a personal story of the Fall of Numenor. I‘ve flipped through my new book to look at the illustrations but resisted the temptation to do more so far. 6y
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It‘s been a long week already with lots of school stuff going on, but tonight I‘m making some time for Tolkien and Gandalf (the cat). Slowly working my way through the etymologies this evening. The introduction to this section just amazes me all over again with the amount of work and dedication involved.

#YearofTolkien #CatsofLitsy

Lcsmcat 😻 6y
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And with that, I add 1 more to my shelf of completed Tolkien books (not including the library loans).

Again I am reminded, how lucky his son is & in fact we are, that Tolkien lived & worked in the time he did, no computers & often when paper was scarce. Without those two facts there would be very little creative process to unearth. As it was, much of it survived, & thanks to the time & dedication of his son, is available to us.

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“I do not guarantee the exact correspondence of every tree”. CT makes me 😂when he tells how he meticulously replicated every fine detail, but hey the trees might be off, don‘t say I didn‘t warn you.

Also reading these sections, where penciled additions have faded over time & are impossible to read, does anyone else start thinking about advanced imaging technology & how many more layers might be able to be peeled away now? Just me?
#YearOfTolkien

JazzFeathers I laughter too at that point 😂 6y
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Well there you go melisse = Melissa, if Middle Earth says that‘s the meaning, I‘ll take it! 😂

#YearOfTolkien

Daisey This is great! Working my way through the etymologies now. (edited) 6y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey I like it, the Greek origin of my name actually means “honey bee”, 🐝 so I like the loving friendship meaning. 6y
JazzFeathers You are such a lucky bee. Carrying an Elvish name all these years without knowing it 😄 6y
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Hmmm Khal-....Khalessi... I would say maybe the language of the Dothraki Horse Lords is a distant relative of Middle Earth, but since I know George RR Martian loved Tolkien growing up, I‘m betting there was some strong influences there. 😉

#YearOfTolkien

tjwill Nice! I love this. 6y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tjwill Interestingly enough....Rok-, Rokko, Roch is Horse...Like Maybe Dothraki??? 🧐 hmmmm 6y
tjwill @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I think that one is a possible connection too! 6y
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Again I am reminded, how lucky his son is & in fact we are, that Tolkien lived & worked in the time he did, no computers & often when paper was scarce. Without those two facts there would be very little creative process to unearth, changes would have been made to the file completely overwriting earlier versions, and interesting scraps like this discarded. As it was, it all survived, often written on the backs of other dated letters.
#YearOfTolkien

JazzFeathers I agree. Sometimes l wonder what it will be of the writing process of today's authors. Yes, computers save even discarded drafts (writer's programs even more so), but l've heard that the kind of files we use today will be unreadable by computers in the future. Everything will be lost. 6y
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Wow, even the stuff I can‘t quite wrap my head completely around, like the complexities of the evolving fictional languages of Middle Earth, I can still be amazed by Tolkien‘s work.
#YearOfTolkien

Daisey Just read this section and was kind of thinking the same thing. 6y
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#YearOfTolkien

With all the excitment about visiting the Tolkien exhibition l forgot to post about finishing this.

I really enjoyed it, especially the first part about the unfinished The Lost Road. That would have been an epic story if Tolkien had really written it. Not that l complain about him writing LotR instead 😆
I also liked reading the updated versions of the Silmarillion. Some parts were richer than the published book.

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I love weekend mornings when I‘m home by myself for breakfast with a book. This morning I‘m having toast from the loaf of sourdough bread I made yesterday.

I haven‘t been keeping up well with my Tolkien reading since the start of school, but I hope to catch up today. I‘m looking forward to reading the last couple chapters of the Quenta Silmarillion.

#YearofTolkien #readandeat

JazzFeathers I really liked the last chapter. Especially the one about Beren and Luthien which is mostly commentary. Love to learn about these stories behind the stories 6y
Daisey @JazzFeathers Glad to hear you enjoyed that chapter, but after reading the Beren & Luthien book I did not get as much from this chapter as some of the others. Overall, I have really been enjoying it though. 6y
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Although the end of The Silmarillion isn't as sad as the end of The Lord of the Rings, it is nonetheless an ending filled with melancholy. I'm especially sorry for the two brothers, Maedhros and Maglor, such awesome characters.
Instead l'm happy to see that Earendil and Elwig's story becomes more positive with every new revision.

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Now that I‘ve finished the earlier version and appendixes in The Shaping of Middle Earth, I‘m read to tackle this version in our current read. 😉👍

#YearOfTolkien

JazzFeathers You're a fantastic reader! I'd never be able to jugle two books (especially such books as those of HoMM) at the same time. And how did the reading of the two versions side by side went? 6y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I didn‘t think I‘d be able to do it either, but when I realized both books contained different versions of the early Quenta/Silmarillion and that we had planned 2 days per section, it actually lined up very nicely. Part 1 and commentary the first day, part 1 of the later version and commentary the 2nd. It was very interesting that see the revisions side-by-side like that. 6y
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With school starting and a few rainy days I‘ve had little time for reading and no time for the hammock. So, tonight I took a walk and then specifically made time to read a chapter outside before it got dark. I‘m truly enjoying yet another version of the Quenta Silmarillion.

#YearofTolkien

JazzFeathers Me too. I especially liked the chapter about Men and Dwarves and the one about the Battle of Unnumbered Tears, because they are somewhat different from the published Silmarillion, even if they are very close. 6y
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This first part of The Children of Hurin is one of my favourite. Some awesome characters here (yeah, fine, l'll confess that l love both Morwen and Beleg).
I also like Thingol quite a lot. He acts wise and generous, which are not adgectives that we normally associate with him.

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I really enjoyed reading this version of the Nirnaeth Arnoediad because somehow it felt different to the others l've read. Not in the sense that the battle is different, but the feeling. There are many details that l hadn't read before.

Always one of the greatest episodes of The Silmarillion.

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Though it isn't quite time to get back to work yet, l'm travelling by train to Verona, today. I'm bringing a friend with me.

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I don't think l've ever read such a detailed account about the Men who are not the Three Houses of the Elven-friends, not even in the Silmarillion.

Even we fans often forget that Men more often sided with Morgoth than against him and that the Houses of Beor, Hador and Haleth are rather the exception than the rule.

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Busy chapter today.
I've always found Fingolfin's solitary challenge at Morgoth one of the most awesome episodes of The Silmarillion.
The House of Finwe abounds in awesome characters, but l think that Fingolfin is one of the wisest, more coragiuos and inspiring.

Daisey I‘m behind on my reading so I just got to this, but I really love be the detail of the description of the two of them arriving for that battle. 6y
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I'm loving to see how Tolkien's legendarium slowly approaches what we know. I also like to see how it becomes progressively diverse.

Daisey So true! Hoping to get to this next chapter this evening. 6y
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The geography of Middle-Earth always confuses me (because l'm too lazy to actually look up a map 😆) and fascinates me at the same time.
And l love all these names (do l sound crazy?). They have such lovely sound and they all are descriptive, so that even the mere name add depth to the geography.

LazyDays Not crazy at all!💙💙🌲🌲🌋 6y
Daisey Agreed! I have a Middle-Earth Atlas but I seldom take the time to use it when reading. I just appreciate the description. 6y
JazzFeathers @LazyDays 😁 l know many readers who have given up on Tolkien because of the many names 6y
JazzFeathers @Daisey We lazy huns 😆 6y
Daisey @JazzFeathers Except that your comment actually made me find my atlas for this chapter. Photographic proof in my most recent post! 6y
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Well, try Google Fingon and Mahedros and you'll find almost only queer images of them.
I'll admit that the version in the Silmarillion, where Fingon and Mahedros know each other from Valinor and Fingon goes looking for Mahedros when he learns of his friend's torment may indeed be read as a queer relationship.
I wouldn't say the version in the Lost Road suggests anything such.

What do you think of these two awesome characters?

Riveted_Reader_Melissa That‘s an interesting interpretation, I hadn‘t really thought about it at all, but now that I have...makes great sense to me. 👍 6y
Daisey I would never read it that way but I can see the interpretation. 6y
JazzFeathers @Daisey l agree, personally, l wouldn't read it that way. But l see how the interpretation is applicable 😄 l find it quite interesting how readers of today seem to have a hard time with virile friendship, so common in Tolkien's stories. @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @wordslinger42 6y
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To Hildorien there came no God to guide the Men or to summon them to dwell in Valinor; and Men have feared the Valar, rather than loved them, and have not understood the purpose of the Power, being at variance with them, and are strife with the world.
Ulmo nonetheless took thought of them, aiding the councel and will of Manwe; and his messages came often to them by stream and flood.

BrieT2016 I love all these post you make about Tolkien‘s world! 6y
Daisey Great quote choice! 6y
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"Then Anar rose in glory and the snow upon the mountains glowed with fire, and there was the sound of many waterfalls; but the servants of Melko fled to Angband and cowered in fear, and Fingolfin unfurled his banners."

In can almost see Fingolfin's blue banners billowing in the wind as the first sun rises over Middle-Earth and he reaches the shores of Beleriand after the Hell of Helcaraxe.
Majestic!

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Boy, what a chapter! The Flight of the Noldor is easily one of the most intense chapters in the Silmarillion and l appreciate this even more now that l've seen its genesis through many versions.
Stakes get ever higher and everybody's reasons ever more complex and entangled.
In this version the intersting idea that even the Valar might have erred appears. It really isn't about who's right or wrong, it's about the complexity of life

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[Morgoth] looked upon the glory of the Valar, and greed and malice were in his heart; he looked upon the fair Children of Iluvatar that sat at the feet of the Gods, and hatred filled him; he looked upon the wealth of gems and lusted fir them; but he hid his thoughts and postponed his vengeance.

#YearOfTolkien

Sophoclessweetheart Hi sweet. The tracking for your parcel says it will be there in estimated three days. Letting you know because it will need to be signed for xx 6y
JazzFeathers @Sorceryandswords Thanks for lettino me know. So it should be here this week! 😱🙌 l'm hoping your will reach you this week too 6y
Sophoclessweetheart Fingers crossed 🤞 Yours should definitely arrive this week though! 😁🖤 6y
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And sadly, here we have the first torch carrying mob incited to violence by a charismatic orator who was swayed by the whispers of hate and discord to magnify and spread their power.

This scene always makes me sad, think how much bloodshed could have been prevented if Fëanor had only realized his words helped his enemy. ?

#YearOfTolkien

JazzFeathers True. But Feanor is also a real character with an authentic soul. A damaged and yet strong personality who intuits the true but cannot sway from his need of ravange. It's like people are in reality: frail and strong, powerful and weak, vulnerable and manipulative. He's such an awesome character. 6y
JazzFeathers Btw, l've just read an article about a part of his story that will come much later in the History of Middle-Earth. I'm very curious to see what you gals will think of it, because it shades a new light on Feanor's story and personality @Daisey @wordslinger42 6y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I know he‘s your favorite character. When I get to this section though, I always wish his will had been a bit stronger. His behavior here, which leads so many to commit atrocities at the Bay...saddens me. I see him more as weak and corruptible, and unwittingly he becomes Morgoth‘s puppet. Yes, even the mightiest can fall to a clever whisperer of lies, but for me it‘s always more of a cautionary tale. 6y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I‘ll look forward to reading it! 6y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Let's me see whether l can find that post. Oh, here it is https://middleearthreflections.com/2018/08/07/wives-of-the-eldar-miriel/ l've just discovered this blog maintained by an obvious Tolkien fan. I plan to read through it 😊 @Daisey @wordslinger42 6y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers Very Interesting, I love that we are still getting more detail into his ideas for the story that far out. But as far as shedding new light on Fëanor, yes it does, but by no means does it excuse his later behavior. 6y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa oh, l'm not looking for an excuse. But l think that through the years Tolkien increasingly made Feanor's position more complex, mixing wrongs and rights in his characters and motivations. While in the beginning he was indeed s character who was heavily influenced by Morgoth, he increasingly becomes a character looking for affirmation, wherever available. It's that complexity that l love. 6y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa And l have just now read the chapter about the Flight of the Noldor and, oh boy! That was a mess! In every new version, the situation becomes more complex and deciding who's right and who's wrong becomes impossible. Which l think it's precisely what Tolkien was after 😊 6y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I agree there, it definitely felt darker to me this time through too. 6y
Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers Really enjoyed reading your conversation and find it fascinating Feanor‘s story is still developing that much further along. I‘ll be looking forward to that. I do think the complexity of his character is what I‘ve truly come to appreciate. 6y
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I‘ve been switching from book to book throughout the day. I listened to an audiobook while working around the house, caught up through chapter 3 of the Quenta Silmarillion for #YearofTolkien, and then I settled in the hammock for a few more chapters of Sense & Sensibility. Overall, it‘s been a very good reading day. 📚

JazzFeathers Sounds like it was 😊 And l can't tell you how much l envy your hammock... 6y
Daisey @JazzFeathers The hammock is pretty wonderful and absolutely my new favorite reading spot while the weather is beautiful. 6y
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I'm utterly speechless.
You think, what can these stories give me more, l've already read so many different versions. Then this chapter happens and it's like reading it for the first time.
Out of all the previous versions, this is so cohesive, so strong, so real and so beautifully written.

Totally loved it.

Soubhiville Beautiful artwork! 6y
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Maybe it's me, but it seems that the poetic language and images that l always associate with The Silmarillion are finally entering Tolkien's working copies.
This account of the creation of the Two Trees is almost moving.

wanderinglynn Beautiful! I love the top left image. 6y
JazzFeathers @wanderinglynn Me too. I saw it and l thought that's exactly what it felt reading this chapter 6y
wanderinglynn Do you know if the print is available for sale? I‘d love to have a copy. 6y
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JazzFeathers @wanderinglynn l wouldn't know, actually. But this is the artist's website https://niahti.artstation.com/albums/615829 Maybe you can try and contact her. 6y
wanderinglynn Thanks! ☺️ 6y
Daisey ❤️ these images! You must have gotten caught up. I‘m just starting the chapters of The Quenta this evening. 6y
JazzFeathers @Daisey l'm going to read the sequence of ch 3 today. Yes, l think l'm caught up 😊 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @wordslinger42 How are you faring, gals? 6y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers Very well! I read 1&2 last night in the earlier version Qenta Noldorinwa and then 1&2 in the Quenta Silmarillion, so I‘m ready for 3 today. 6y
wordslinger42 @JazzFeathers I'm a little behind. Will try to get caught up this weekend. I'm sorry I haven't been participating as much lately; the last couple weeks have been really hard for me :( 6y
JazzFeathers @wordslinger42 Hope things are getting more manageable. When life gets crazy it's a horrible feeling. The Quenta is divided in very comfortable section, shouldn't be too difficult to keep up. 6y
wordslinger42 @JazzFeathers Thanks for understanding ❤ I'll definitely keep reading, even if I'm a bit behind 😊 6y
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Loved this new incarnation of the Valaquenta. It's the cleanest so far and the Valar's personality really shine here.

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I always wondered what it is that a philologist does. What is the use of someone studing words?
Then l read a few of Tolkien lectures... and l was shocked. I suddenly realised: a philologist is someone who reconstruct humanity's history studing the languages. It's an incredibly fascinating matter.

Here Tolkien moves on reverse: He creates a people's history by creating their languages.

CrowCAH Very interesting! I adore his created language for the elves. He‘s what inspired me to create one for my made up world of guardian angels. 6y
larah17 Does this book contain those lectures, or did you find them elsewhere? Because that sounds fascinating! 6y
JazzFeathers @CrowCAH He had such a profondo knowledge of language and its power that that alone is almost magic 6y
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JazzFeathers @larah17 l read it in The Monter and the Critics. Fantastic book! 6y
Daisey I thought the same thing about the Lhammas seeming to be the opposite of what a philologist generally does. It‘s fascinating to me to see how his love of language impacted the creation of his world. 6y
JazzFeathers @Daisey True. And to see how history as he unferstood it - as a cultural creation, basically - influenced that creation. 6y
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"Mighty are the Ainur, and mightiest among them is Melko; but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that l am lluvatar, those things that ye have sung and placed, lo! I have caused to be"

I'm a bit behind in the #YearOfTolkien but l hope to catch up in the next couple days.

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Daisey
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I got so caught up in my audiobook about Tolkien and the other Inklings that I forgot to read anything actually by Tolkien the last few evenings. Tonight I‘m making up for it by reading in the hammock while also grilling supper. The Lhammas is about the historical development of the languages within the mythology. I just wish this chart was larger and more easily readable in my copy.

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JazzFeathers I fell behind too because l'm doing the annuale deep clean of the house (being on hplidays, you know). Yesterday l was so tried l fell asleep before l knew l was in bed. Last day of cleaning today, then l hope my hplidays will truly begin! 6y
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The Lost Road: The History of Middle-Earth 5 | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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Considering that the Battle of Unnumbered Tears never appeares in Tolkien's papers other than in synopsis form,it takes up a considerable space in the Annals of Beleriand. I'm convinced that Tolkien had a complete story in mind, probably too complex and ambitious to jot down. Since the first time l read it in the Silmarillion l thought there's a lot of story material in that short chapter.
It's a crime that story was never written.

Trollkonstnaren Perhaps Christopher would? He is the most familiar with his father's work - and as he has done with many books :) Of course some stories are impossible to write (and he is not publishing anymore?), but itis good to remember his contribution to the lore. 6y
Trollkonstnaren edit: just googled he is still pretty active considering his age 😊 6y
JazzFeathers Honestly, l don't think it's possible to write that story. From the synopsis, it's quite clear (at least to me 😆) that Tolkien ha a very large story in mind and he probably had at least the main events clearly in mind. But if the synopsis is everything we have of the, l'm afraid we just have to accept we'll never read that story 😐 6y
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Trollkonstnaren @JazzFeathers Btw, what have you read so far and what are you planning to read after August? Just think my own personal schedule and what to get on my hands regarding the readalong :) 6y
JazzFeathers @Trollkonstnaren We are reading History of Middle-Earth book 5 at the moment. We'll read The Fall of Gondolin when it comes out (in September, l suppose, when all of us have a copy) and then resume with History of Middle-Earth book 6, which is the first concerning LotR. Fancy to join? 😄 6y
Trollkonstnaren @JazzFeathers As stated, sure :) My only problem is how I can get my hands on the books (tricky situation atm). If I get the books, I'll gladly read them and be part of the group :) 6y
JazzFeathers @Trollkonstnaren 🙌🙌🙌 l think we all need a little timd to get the book. It's tricky when a book has just come out. 6y
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The Lost Road: The History of Middle-Earth 5 | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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DWARVES! Finally they come into the play! I never expected them to have come into the their own so late and once again l wonder whether The Hobbit play a part in Tolkien's increased interest in them. So far, they had been shadows moving on the background of the story.

I also lived the decriptions of the different people of Beleriand. I could easily imagine Middle Ages people moving and keeping the land just the same way.

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Daisey
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I think this hammock may quickly become my new favorite reading spot. What a lovely way to spend a quiet Friday evening!

@sammisho I decided it was worth it. Now if I can just manage to grade papers here too once school starts.

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sammisho I loooooove this!!! Happy hammocking_! 6y
Tamra Yes! 6y
JazzFeathers Hammock??? 😍😍😍😍😍😍 6y
SamanthaMarie That is incredible!!! 6y
Daisey @sammisho @Tamra @JazzFeathers @SamanthaMarie Thanks! I‘m definitely enjoying it!! 6y
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There‘s not a lot of new in this version of the “Annals of Valinor” compared to what I‘ve already read, but the word choice of this more detailed description of Feanor caught my attention tonight.

“Feanor was the mightiest Gnome of all that have been, wordcrafty and handcrafty, fair and strong and tall, fiery of mood and thought, hard tempered, undaunted, master of the wills of others.”

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JazzFeathers It caoght my eye too. And made me think Tolkien thought of Feanor a lot more than readers of the story seem to think of him 😉 6y
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The Lost Road: The History of Middle-Earth 5 | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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I really like the smoothness of this version of the Annals of Valinor. It is the version we have become familiar with, if not the one we know from the Silmarillion. These are the version Tolkien work with while he worked to Lord of the Rings. I'm so eager to read about that major work.

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Daisey I read this section this evening and I agree. I appreciate the different versions, but I‘m also ready to get to the next phase and the development of LotR. 6y
JazzFeathers @Daisey l think The Annals of Beleriand are more interesting because there are more developments. (Dwarves Dwarves Dwarves Dwarves) 😇 6y
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I was also pleasantly surprised to see “The Seafarer” mentioned in this chapter about the “unfinished chapters”. This one stuck with me the first time I read it in HS English class, it‘s been translated a few times, but this was the closest I could find online to the one I read then. I guess there is a reason why I throughly enjoyed Tolkien‘s verse in these History of Middle Earth books, especially the Lays. 😉

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Anybody else read this in the “unwritten chapters” and think of Vikings (the TV series), maybe that was just me, but it‘s nice to know they pulled at least some of their plot lines from history.

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JazzFeathers Errrr... no. Never seen the show 😜 6y
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I finished the unwritten chapters of The Lost Road this morning. I find it fascinating to consider this story concept that would have further melded together ancient legends with Tolkien‘s own imagined world. I was also constantly thinking that at some point I have to add reading more of Tolkien‘s translations to my list, specifically this one I own and Beowulf.

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JazzFeathers Oh my goodness! Where did you find this???? What an awesome edition 😍😍😍😍😍 6y
Daisey @JazzFeathers I don‘t make it to a used bookstore often, but when I do make it to Half Price Books nowadays, I always check what Tolkien books they have on the shelf that I might not have yet. I stumbled across this one this spring. 📚 6y
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Caught up with my backlog on my #YearOfTolkien read along. I really liked this side story background and once again find myself wishing he‘d have written even more of it.

JazzFeathers Goodness, l love this part of the idea. I've alwsys loved it since first l tead Numenor stories (most if this terror atmosphere remains in the Akalkabeth), but in these fragments it is even stronger. Almost as if Tolkien could foresee what was going to happen in the real world. 6y
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The Lost Road: The History of Middle-Earth 5 | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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"With the entry at that time of the cardinal idea of the Downfall of Numenor, the World Made Round and the Straight Road into che conception of Middle-Earth, and the thought of a 'time-travel' story in which (...) Alfwine would be both 'extended' into the future, into the XX century, and 'extended' also into a many-layered past,my father was envisagin a massive li king of his own legends with those of many other places and times"?

JazzFeathers These legends would all be concerned with people living on the eastern shoes of the Atlantic and their beliefs concerning what lies in the West. 😱 l suppose if the publisher hadn't insisted on more stories about Hobbits, this is what Tolkien would have worked on in the following 14 years. 6y
Daisey I'm in the middle of the unwritten chapters right now and am fascinated by his melding of old European tales with his own created world. It also makes me want to read more of his translation work. 6y
JazzFeathers @Daisey me too. The man had an incredible analytic mind. I love reading his accademic work (l read some of his esseys years ago). He could make connections between elements of the same story or from different stories that shed new light on the subject. His analytic process is fascinating. 6y
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The Lost Road: The History of Middle-Earth 5 | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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Lazing around with a couple friends this hot afternoon 😆

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And tonight, let's see the eclipse!

rubyslippersreads 😻😻😻 6y
RealBooks4ever Sweet baby kitty! 💜😻 6y
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I read the Numenorean chapters of The Lost Road with breakfast and only wish that we could see this personal story of a father and son set during the downfall of Numenor to completion. The details of this story are beautiful and the emotion is intense.

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LoverofLit What's that yummy looking drink in your picture? 6y
JazzFeathers So true... 6y
Daisey @LoverofLit It‘s my homemade version of iced coffee, pretty much 50/50 ratio of coffee to milk/creamer. (edited) 6y
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Daisey @JazzFeathers I was amazed by he intensity I felt in such a short section of the story. I guess it was helped due to my background knowledge of Numenor from other reading, but it surprised me. 6y
Daisey @tpixie This bowl is just as practical as it is beautiful. 😁 6y
tpixie @Daisey oh, I‘m so glad!!! Just love our #covertocover group! (edited) 6y
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The Lost Road: The History of Middle-Earth 5 | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien
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I mean, Ronald, you're killing us. You sure are killing ME! I'd love to read such story...