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Crinoline_Laphroaig
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Pickpick

#Pemberlittens Here's Mansfield Park Discussion Questions. I changed them up a bit because I know MP is a harder read than other Austen and a bit of a struggle sometimes. I'll post my answers later. It's hot. I was out early in the garden watering everything! It's currently 96F/35C. I need a nap. 🤤

#JaneAustenThenAndNow
#MusingsOnMansfieldPark

Crinoline_Laphroaig I forgot to tag everyone earlier. 🤦🏻‍♀️ 1d
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Crinoline_Laphroaig 1️⃣ Reread. Print and Audiobook narrated by Juliet Stevenson. I first read it as a teenager and hated it. When rereading years later, I realized why younger me disliked it. Back then I was painfully shy. (I know! Hard to believe now.) My home was just as chaotic as the Price's and I had a Mrs Norris in my life. It was just too familiar. Rereading through older eyes, I appreciate Fanny‘s quiet strength of character. 1d
Crinoline_Laphroaig 2️⃣ I realized reading this time that MP has all the worst characters in Austen. Henry Crawford plays with people's feelings. Mary Crawford constantly excuses his behavior. Selfish Maria and Julia. But the absolute worst is Mrs Norris! Her petty stinginess. She's a know-it-all and is just plain spiteful and cruel. 1d
Crinoline_Laphroaig 3️⃣ I love all the discussion of improvements and garden references. Which brings me to ….

4️⃣ “and standing back, well shaded and sheltered, and looking over a ha-ha into the park, was a comfortable-sized bench, on which they all sat down.” I love ha-ha!

“to sit in the shade on a fine day, and look upon verdure, is the most perfect refreshment.” As a gardener I appreciate a place in the shade to admire.

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Crinoline_Laphroaig 5️⃣ Lady B just baffles me. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with her. Also was she like this when Lord B was courting her?

6️⃣ The Play! As I always think of it is bad. Mr Rushworth is silly but just wants to be part of the gang so I feel sorry for him. But Edmund droning on would be the worst. Especially when he's all lovesick puppy over Mary Crawford.
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Crinoline_Laphroaig 7️⃣ Henry, Maria, and Mrs Norris all deserve one another.

8️⃣ MP is never going to be my favorite Austen. Edmund is no Mr Darcy or Henry Tilney. I think he will just be more of a sanctimonious prig as he ages. I hope older Fanny learns to speak up for herself, the way I did. It's a wonderful feeling!

August means it's time for retellings, adaptations, and inspired by Mansfield Park.📚

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Andrea313
Pride and Prejudice | Jane Austen
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#PemberLittens! Absolutely nobody asked for this, but they're gonna give us some goods anyway: Olivia Colman and Fiona Shaw! Rhea Norwood as Lydia!!! A Wickham who is way too young to be there!!!!!!! And a plus-size Kitty (Hollie Avery, LFG!) which thrills me. Maybe someday I'll get my biblically accurate plus-size Georgiana Darcy, too; a girl can dream. Link to article in the chat, and hit me, folks: how are you feeling about a new P&P?

Ruthiella Is there indications in the text that Kitty or Georgina would be plus sized? Just curious. 2d
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Andrea313 @Ruthiella No text indicating Kitty's build except being shorter than Lydia, but Georgiana is described as being "on a larger scale than Elizabeth" and "womanly", tall, with a "formed figure". Elizabeth is referred to as "thin" and "light" so it's easy to assume Georgiana might just be slightly bigger than her. But "on a larger scale" stuck with me during one re-read and I've always wanted to see Georgie as a bigger girl. 2d
eeclayton I'm not particularly enthusiastic, but yay for Olivia Colman ❤️ 2d
Andrea313 @eeclayton I think there's some good casting choices here, with Olivia leading the charge. I just don't know why anyone thought another P&P was necessary. 🤷‍♀️ 2d
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Andrea313
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This chapter on Mansfield Park's DL commentary on the slave trade seems not only the most plausible of Kelly's claims, but also the most fascinating. Why else, in a novel centered on morality, would Austen have so many references throughout? From the names "Mansfield" and "Norris", which would have obvious connotations for her audience, to repeatedly invoking Cowper, who famously wrote anti-slavery poetry, I feel like the connection is undeniable.

eeclayton I read somewhere that these references might be the reason behind the book's unpopularity and the lack of contemporary reviews. People were made uncomfortable by Mansfield Park. 4d
Andrea313 @eeclayton Yes to all of that, and this book calls out the lack reviews as well. So many people, organizations, publications, etc., had to be careful about their public positioning and didn't want to be seen supporting the work. No different to institutions today, sadly. 3d
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Andrea313
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Sunday morning bellini and some musings on Mansfield Park. Though I will never agree with the author that Fanny is as dull as he claims, I appreciate how he contrasts Fanny and Edmund with the Crawfords and draws parallels to the class divides within his own life. He sums up his take with a bit from an Austen letter written the same year MP was published: "Wisdom is better than Wit & in the long run will certainly have the last laugh on her side."

Crinoline_Laphroaig I love a good Sunday morning musing and cocktail. 4d
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AnneCecilie
The Flower Farm | Rachael Lucas
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#BookReport

I finished Mansfield Park #PemberLittens #JaneAustenThenAndNow and Under brosteinen, stranden!

I read TAo The Veiled Lodger #NoPlaceLikeHolmes

I continued with my yearlong reads on the right

I continued Little Dorrit #WhatTheDickens and to listen to The Flower Farm

I‘ve started The Whalebone Theatre

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Andrea313
Mansfield Park | Jane Austen
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Mansfield is a pick forever! I might rage against the Crawfords, and sure, Edmund isn't fantastic...but Fanny's quiet, unshakable strength brings me back time and time again.

Thanks as always to @Crinoline_Laphroaig for leading us through a whole year of Austen. #PemberLittens #JaneAustenThenAndNow

DrSabrinaMoldenReads I think this is my next Jane Austen although I have not read Sense and Sensibility 6d
Andrea313 @DrSabrinaMoldenReads If you end up giving it a try, I hope you love it! Mansfield can be polarizing, but I'm a huge fan. ❤️ 6d
DrSabrinaMoldenReads Definitely will read it 6d
Crinoline_Laphroaig Younger me didn't 'get' Mansfield Park but older me appreciates Fanny‘s quiet strength of character. 5d
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Andrea313
Mansfield Park | Jane Austen
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And it's a mad dash to the book's close! Fanny arrives back home and Edmund pours out the whole sorry story of Mary and then suddenly it's the "wrap it up" chapter?! Everyone gets a satisfying and deserved ending based on their actions and moral character (Maria and Mrs. Norris banished in disgrace, huzzah!) and Fanny is vindicated in every respect (double huzzah!). Long live the girl who's maybe kinda boring but has been GOOD and RIGHT all along!

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Crinoline_Laphroaig
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"Let other pens dwell on guilt and misery."
And that's a wrap on Mansfield Park 2 Chapters a Day Readalong. Discussion Post will be up on July 30th. ?

#pemberlittens
#janeaustenthenandnow
#musingsonmansfieldpark

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Andrea313
Mansfield Park | Jane Austen
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Now, I don't generally dislike Edmund, but after all the shit that goes down in these two chapters, he comes out with THIS?!:

"How a man who had once loved, could desert you! But yours - your regard was new compared with ---- Fanny, think of me!"

We will NOT be thinking of you or centering you in the midst of this, Edmund, so get out of the way: Fanny has arrived home at Mansfield and is about to be greeted like a long-lost daughter (win!).

Crinoline_Laphroaig I was list while watering the garden and I kept thinking, 'wow Edmund make it all about you." 1w
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Crinoline_Laphroaig
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"Never had Fanny more wanted a cordial." Wow Mary Crawford is a piece of work. Although at least she doesn't hide her golddigger tendencies.

I think you're gonna need a whiskey Fanny. ?
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Crinoline_Laphroaig I particularly hate the way Mr Price calls Fanny 'Fan'. It would be different if it was an endearment but I honestly think he's just too lazy to say her complete name. Also who are you to judge? You're an idler who spends all your time looking at ships rather than providing for your family. 😡 1w
TheBookHippie 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 it‘s demeaning!!! 1w
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