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GingerAntics I‘ve got to say, one positive of this would certainly be that people wouldn‘t hide their motivations, because they wouldn‘t be self conscious of their motivations. Instead of “I‘m trying to protect women and unborn babies” it would be “I just want to control women, children, and anyone else I see as inferior to myself.” 5d
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GingerAntics I‘ve got to say, this chapter really stretched me mentally. 6d
TheBookHippie I feel like crap I‘ll be back to answer. I answered last weeks yesterday 😝😩 I agree this one is good for my brain 5d
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 🤣😂🤣 you have the added push of the fact that you‘re not a cat person. 5d
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie oh no, it‘s covid! I hope you feel better quickly. 3d
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ravenlee I think it‘s easy to get bogged down in fatalism, get overwhelmed by the odds - so much of what we‘ve discussed before, in the limits of free will and such. Then, yes, there‘s melancholy. But if we acknowledge the cruddy situation and still work to make the best of it for ourselves and those around us, there‘s reason for hope and optimism. 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee I like that view much better. I think there is certainly room to recognise that things can and do suck. I think the “everything‘s great and always awesome” camp is just as toxic as the “everything sucks and nothing matters” camp. I think the whole point is to find that happy medium, like you say. It‘s important to acknowledge both sides of life, I guess. Some (most? all?) of the philosophers in this chapter did NOT get that memo. 2w
ravenlee Yes, toxic optimism. The people who talk about “first-world problems” like you can‘t be upset about anything just because other people have it worse. The ones who want to know what you‘re doing for self-care because it‘s SOOO important but ignore all the genuine problems that are causing the stress in the first place. 2w
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GingerAntics @ravenlee yes to all of that! First world problems (for joke sake) are like “I wish my phone did this,” but that‘s not to say people in the first world don‘t actually have problems. 2w
ravenlee Exactly! Like, “I dropped my phone and the screen cracked so it‘s barely usable but I can‘t afford $700 for a new one” is indeed a first-world problem - but it‘s for someone who needs a usable phone to be contacted about work, housing opportunities, family emergencies, and so on, it‘s still very much a problem! 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee exactly! I just dropped my phone and the screen is cracked so it‘s barely useable, but don‘t worry daddy will buy me a new one on the way home from work” is absolutely a genuine first world problem in the joke sense. 🙄 2w
TheBookHippie I always think of Anne of Green Gables when melancholy is mentioned!!!! 1w
TheBookHippie I think people miss joy. Joy and peace are not feelings they are a way of spirit in the midst of it all burning down around us. 1w
TheBookHippie Sorry so late catching up!!! 1w
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ravenlee Well, cats don‘t realize they‘re naked…so…yes? (Seriously, my SIL keeps sending pictures of her kids dressing their cat in doll clothes and the cat is NOT amused. I think he‘s either plotting murder or escape) 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee oh my god, dogs will put up with that bs, but cats will NOT! 😳 I‘ve seen a cat willingly wear a garment if it serves them in some meaningful way (I‘m thinking of a cat with paralysed back legs that wears little dresses that let her drag her back legs over the floors without hurting herself), but if they‘re aware they are naked, they really don‘t care. They will gladly throw a leg up and lick their butt in front of god and man! 2w
ravenlee Once at my MIL‘s house kiddo was playing with the old (like MIL‘s childhood) dolls and my BIL caught MIL‘s cat and was trying to put some dress or something on her. MIL came over all exasperated and I thought kitty was in for a rescue until she said, “oh for goodness‘ sake - at least find something that fits her!” and proceeded to find her “favorite” dress. Now I try to make sure the cat is well hidden before they play dolls. 😳🙄 2w
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GingerAntics @ravenlee oh my god that poor cat! You have got to be kidding. 2w
ravenlee I wish I were. 2w
ravenlee Or maybe cats do realize they‘re naked and revel in it. Nudist cats? Is that why they lick their butts at us so deliberately? 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee OH MY GOD THAT WOULD EXPLAIN SO MUCH!!! They look at us like “what‘s up with those things on your body? What‘s the point. Be comfortable.” Cats are nudists! 🤯 2w
TheBookHippie @ravenlee yes. They‘re flaunting their freedom. 1w
TheBookHippie Death isn‘t real for most people until they either experience it with loss or beat it themselves or fight to live IMO. Life and Death started at the same time if we are to believe there is no time in Eden or heaven. 1w
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie that is an absolutely mind blowing thought. “Life and death started at the same time.” So much to unpack with that. The birth of humanity meant the death of our closest evolutionary siblings. Death is the only guarantee we have in life. Hm. 5d
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Do humans like cats because they are not like humans at all? Such an intriguing thought. We see such differences in them, and that‘s what draws us to them. Perhaps (from last chapter), we are drawn to them, because they want us to be.
#FelinePhilosophy #JohnGray #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety #LiveLikeACat #TheMeaningOfLife #Cats #Cat #CatsAndTheMeaningOfLife #CatsOfLitsy

kspenmoll I never lived with cats before marrying; my husband loves all animals & feels akin to them. Now that I have had cats, for me, their behavior/ beings drew me to them. It may be different for others. I was brought up with dogs & viewed cats as boring. Mow I love my cats. Over time we have so lucked out with our 3- all companions & “dog cats.” (edited) 2w
GingerAntics @kspenmoll I‘m thinking they are more like us than Gray is giving them (or us) credit for. Each cat is unique. Some are very ritualistic and some are totally free spirits. The religions of the world talk about how horrible humans are and how we must overcome our natures, but the natures they want us to overcome the most are the things cats embrace. Proper rest. Enjoying the moment. Not worrying about what others think of us. Etc. 2w
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GingerAntics @kspenmoll maybe we love cats because they are us without all the constraints and BS. Instead of complicating everything, they‘ve simplified everything. 2w
ravenlee I wish we could be more catlike: take naps when you‘re tired. Eat when you‘re hungry. Keep yourself clean and in good working order. Manipulate those around you into taking care of your needs. They‘re masters of “self-care.” 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee another really good point. Perhaps we can never be entirely cat like, maybe because we‘re not really supposed to me (seeing that to the best of my knowledge we are not cats), but we can certainly learn from them. Cats can do amazing things to help and even rescue people they‘re attached to (possibly because they see it as saving their automatic food generator? 🤷🏼‍♀️), they will even risk one their 9 lives… 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee but they won‘t do any of that if they are sick, injured, overly tired, etc. They sleep when they need it. They eat when they need to. They don‘t worry about fitting a body ideal or a productivity ideal. They protect themselves and those they care about. After that, all bets are off. Don‘t even look at their house if they don‘t know you, they might take it as a threat. 2w
kspenmoll @GingerAntics SO true! When Emmy has enough of my lap she just up & goes. She chooses what she does, how she lives in any given moment. They are good mentors for us regarding rest(my struggle), being in moment, etc. 2w
kspenmoll @GingerAntics great great points!!! Re: masters of self care. @GingerAntics Poe is our empath cat- he senses when one of us is upset, sad, etc. and just shows up & snuggles us. (edited) 2w
GingerAntics @kspenmoll I grew up with a cat like that. He was such an introvert, but if I was upset, it was cold in my room at night, he thought my feet were something that was going to get me under my covers, he was right there. I miss that big guy everyday. 2w
TheBookHippie OkAy this human, nope. 😂 what does that say about me 😂😂😂😂😝😳 1w
TheBookHippie @ravenlee THIS. I‘ll just do ME. 1w
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie maybe people who dislike cats, are the most like cats, so they don‘t want another around. 5d
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kspenmoll I think philosophy is telling us both. Some philosophy seems to go hand in hand with religion & its rituals. Cats have rituals but obviously not aligned with religion. We can try to be more content, accept that we all die, live as much in the moment as we can, but living as Humans has demands, bumps, tragedies. In this divisive world/country it seems only achievable individually & within smaller groups. I wish it were different & I strive for that 2w
GingerAntics @kspenmoll that makes a lot of sense. 2w
ravenlee I think philosophers (maybe not philosophy overall) tell us that we‘re too complicated to live like cats. Whether that is a positive or a negative depends on the individual perspective. 2w
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GingerAntics @ravenlee that is true. That could be a new branch of philosophy right there. Are we too complicated to live like cats? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? 2w
ravenlee I feel like cats could belong to several schools of philosophical thought. Zen, Stoicism, pragmatism, so many. Also, stoner philosophy when catnip is involved. 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee 😂🤣😂 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee I don‘t know. A lot of those philosophies are focused on dealing with the melancholy of life. Cats aren‘t. They‘re oblivious to it. Anxiety doesn‘t keep cats awake. They don‘t have insomnia. Cats see a problem, and either they can do something about it (claw someone‘s face off) or they can‘t (it‘s time for a nap anyway). 🤷🏼‍♀️ I think stoner fits them well on all cases. Something happens and they grin, say “dude” and have a nap. 2w
ravenlee True, they‘re not at the heart of any of those philosophies, but more in line with the practice, like taking things as they come, making do instead of wishing for better. Although my cat for sure wishes for the canned food when I give him the kibble. 2w
GingerAntics @ravenlee yeah, I swear, if I fed the cat wet food for some reason or a special occasion, then gave them kibble, I‘d get a look. “What is this crap, human? Where is my real meal?” 2w
kspenmoll @ravenlee Good points. Especially catnip. 2w
kspenmoll @GingerAntics @ravenlee Wet food reigns in our house. Another cat directive. 2w
GingerAntics @kspenmoll we‘ve all been trained by our cats! 😂 2w
TheBookHippie @ravenlee stoner philosophy 😂😂 1w
TheBookHippie This book is fun. I loathe cats and never want one in my house but I like holding a kitten 😂 I think they‘re cute to look at and I understand people liking them I just really do not, so this book is different for me. I do like that they‘re selfish little critters narcissistic maybe ? Could be why I don‘t like them 😂😂 1w
TheBookHippie You can live like a cat. You just would be alone. 1w
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I‘m not sure you would be, though. You would just only have people you liked in your life. 5d
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This chapter was certainly better than the last. This was definitely a philosophy chapter, and a cat chapter obviously. Interesting ideas in this chapter.
#FelinePhilosophy #JohnGray #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety #LiveLikeACat #TheMeaningOfLife #Cats #Cat #CatsAndTheMeaningOfLife #CatsOfLitsy

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GingerAntics I‘m really hoping the next chapter isn‘t quite as grim in places. I‘m not sure I can take a whole book of the depravity of humanity turned on cats. 3w
ravenlee I was thinking the same thing. I don‘t understand why Gray felt it necessary or useful to lay out such gruesome details, and so much of it. I get that humans can be singularly, well, inhuman, but the litany was excessive and served little purpose (as far as I can tell). I‘m still waiting for the “philosophy” part to really take off. 3w
ravenlee I did find some interesting tidbits on the history of cats - I love that cats domesticated themselves. It wasn‘t new to me, as we watch a LOT of documentaries around here (one of the tunes kiddo hums to herself sometimes is the PBS Nature theme music), especially on cats (kiddo‘s major obsession for the past two years). But it‘s still awesome. 3w
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GingerAntics @ravenlee I love that your kid likes documentaries! That is just awesome! 🧡🧡🧡 3w
GingerAntics @ravenlee yeah, I didn‘t feel a lot of philosophy on this one, other than “cats don‘t need philosophy” which was confusing. What are we doing here exactly? I‘m hoping this was the intro chapter and we‘ll get into the philosophy now. I don‘t see any purpose to litany of human horrors inflicted upon cats either. I just genuinely hope it‘s over. I want to protect all the kitties! 3w
GingerAntics @ravenlee part of me does wonder how those monsters didn‘t get their faces clawed off, though. If anyone deserved to be clawed to death, it was the nutcases that came up with those atrocities!!! 3w
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I assume this will get better. Sorry I‘m so late I have a hugely busy schedule this month! 3w
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie that‘s fine. I totally bungled posting this week, so we‘re all on the back foot a bit with this one. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Yeah, I‘m certainly hoping for some actual philosophy in the next chapter and hopefully no more anti-cat check lists. 3w
kspenmoll The torturing of cats by humans 😱😱😱 2w
GingerAntics @kspenmoll same. Did. Not. Know. Any of this. Oh my god. I don‘t even believe in hell, but all those people better be rotting there right now. That so sick. I just… 🤯 2w
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